Hi Chris ... here is a video about the ID.3 and the battery heating and its consumption while not driving from the channel "Schräg". title: STANDVERBRAUCH durch AKKU-HEITZUNG (-2% vom Akku) yes, it is a very long video and if you watch it you will be bored a lot (waiting till things happen while parking to get the consumption), but at the end in the final minutes things are changing cause he is showing graphs of the battery heating in 4° C environment and -5° C ... His first test was 4°C and the second -5°C which is important to know cause after the second test he found out that his app NOTIFYme logged all the data and he showed the grafs. So search and start the video and jump to 40:20 cause there he shows the graphs first in the app and 40 sec. later he had plotted the full graphs so do not stop before 41:00 to identify something cause he has done a very good graph with explanations based on real data at 41:00 and later shows the first test figures which ran at +4°C . It explains the high short distance consumption ... heating battery 2nd day at -5°C took about 17 minutes and 1,6 kWh ... first was about 1 kWh If you add cabin heating then you find a consumption on 10 km trips of 3 kWh based on 1,5 kWh driving + 1 kwh battery heating and 0,5 kWh cabin heating (ignoring the fact that draining the battery by driving + cabin heating will heat the battery itself (15 kW drive train + 3 kW cabin). Pretty decent graphs based for 2 different temperatures based on 0792 for ID.3 ProPerfMax ... but I do not know if he has a heatpump or not. EVnotify has become very usefull and seems to work from e-up over e-Golf and ID.3 up to ID.4 for us. Might be interesting for all the international viewers to understand how the battery heating is working ... so you might ask Schräg if you can use his data, graf and examples to explain it in a separate english video ... cause every one will benefit - except Markus from sunny Portugal and all the guys from southern spain, italy, greece that do not reach so low temperature below 10° C.
Thanks, but I knew this. If the battery is under 7 degrees it will be heated to 13 degrees with a 6kW heater. Depending on the outside temp this will take different time.
Great video. Really interesting to see this charging speed compared. Was this with any battery pre-conditioning? I’d love to see some Tesla Model 3 data for comparison. Particularly the Made in China SR+ with the LFP battery and the LR AWD as well.
@@BatteryLife the battery will precondition if you navigate to a charging station. Driving it at 130 km/h does not optimize the battery for fast charging.
I really like those comparisons. At "Vox Automobil" this sunday they tested the eTron GT, and the presenter said something like: "We never reached the 250 KW only 102. We arrived with 72%. So charging is not good." And on TV they do that all the time... Those TV-Presenters obviosly don' know how batteries work but give consumer advises nontheless. That really bugs me!
@UCdHFOTTmkzR-r-pRkRw3G_w Yes even Bloch does that. And he is an engineer, i think. He also chritizied the ID3 heavy for it's software, although it had that 1st-Mover-Early-Access-Version. I went far a short walk and saw an Id3! The spacey pedestrian warning sound is really laud!
Hi Chris great video, you really put a great deal or work into your charging curve analysis. Dumb question, do you think the charger ionity etc has an influence on the curve. Could the rapid variations be due to limited power available at the grid?
Hi Chris, have to agree with the others. Those comparisons are great and a good reason for supporting your channel on Patreon! thank you
Thanks... from Portugal
Thanks Chris!
Hi Chris ! You said it is weird charging curve - it is utterly annoying charging curve.
Have a nice day. Byyyye !
Still charging well I think though. Just a weird curve.
Hi Chris ... here is a video about the ID.3 and the battery heating and its consumption while not driving from the channel "Schräg".
title: STANDVERBRAUCH durch AKKU-HEITZUNG (-2% vom Akku)
yes, it is a very long video and if you watch it you will be bored a lot (waiting till things happen while parking to get the consumption), but at the end in the final minutes things are changing cause he is showing graphs of the battery heating in 4° C environment and -5° C ...
His first test was 4°C and the second -5°C which is important to know cause after the second test he found out that his app NOTIFYme logged all the data and he showed the grafs.
So search and start the video and jump to 40:20 cause there he shows the graphs first in the app and 40 sec. later he had plotted the full graphs so do not stop before 41:00 to identify something cause he has done a very good graph with explanations based on real data at 41:00 and later shows the first test figures which ran at +4°C .
It explains the high short distance consumption ... heating battery 2nd day at -5°C took about 17 minutes and 1,6 kWh ... first was about 1 kWh
If you add cabin heating then you find a consumption on 10 km trips of 3 kWh based on 1,5 kWh driving + 1 kwh battery heating and 0,5 kWh cabin heating (ignoring the fact that draining the battery by driving + cabin heating will heat the battery itself (15 kW drive train + 3 kW cabin).
Pretty decent graphs based for 2 different temperatures based on 0792 for ID.3 ProPerfMax ... but I do not know if he has a heatpump or not.
EVnotify has become very usefull and seems to work from e-up over e-Golf and ID.3 up to ID.4 for us.
Might be interesting for all the international viewers to understand how the battery heating is working ... so you might ask Schräg if you can use his data, graf and examples to explain it in a separate english video ... cause every one will benefit - except Markus from sunny Portugal and all the guys from southern spain, italy, greece that do not reach so low temperature below 10° C.
Thanks, but I knew this. If the battery is under 7 degrees it will be heated to 13 degrees with a 6kW heater.
Depending on the outside temp this will take different time.
Great video. Really interesting to see this charging speed compared.
Was this with any battery pre-conditioning?
I’d love to see some Tesla Model 3 data for comparison. Particularly the Made in China SR+ with the LFP battery and the LR AWD as well.
I did the full range test at 130 km/h before this. So the battery was warm.
@@BatteryLife the battery will precondition if you navigate to a charging station. Driving it at 130 km/h does not optimize the battery for fast charging.
I really like those comparisons.
At "Vox Automobil" this sunday they tested the eTron GT, and the presenter said something like: "We never reached the 250 KW only 102. We arrived with 72%. So charging is not good."
And on TV they do that all the time...
Those TV-Presenters obviosly don' know how batteries work but give consumer advises nontheless. That really bugs me!
Es gibt aber auch noch Sachverständige Moderatoren die 255 kW schaffen: ua-cam.com/video/IDBEUyGzzus/v-deo.html wie Alex von Elektrisiert.
@UCdHFOTTmkzR-r-pRkRw3G_w Yes even Bloch does that. And he is an engineer, i think. He also chritizied the ID3 heavy for it's software, although it had that 1st-Mover-Early-Access-Version.
I went far a short walk and saw an Id3! The spacey pedestrian warning sound is really laud!
@@abraxastulammo9940 He mentioned in Grip I think, that he owns a Tesla. So he has experience :)
Hi Chris great video, you really put a great deal or work into your charging curve analysis. Dumb question, do you think the charger ionity etc has an influence on the curve. Could the rapid variations be due to limited power available at the grid?
Thanks.
No. I charged the Model 3 with 190kW. No problem.
@@BatteryLife ok then the car/battery is the issue.
Can you redo this test with the new software V. 1.7?
It was a press car. Sadly Won't get one again just for that.
Nervous charger. How about getting a green screen behind you or a more bright background?
It is not the charger. It is the car. Seen it on Björns test with it and the Polestar as well.
Not a fan of green screen, I like it dark it dark ;)
3:48 49 kWh in 30 min does not beat the ID.4.
Id.3 pro s and Id.4 77 kWh battery are the same. So you are right.
Hi Chris, it seems to me that this XC40 is really thirsty. It's a shame. It would have been a really nice car ...