I put up with this Narc for 7yrs I got so sick of the Gas lighting, the Gosting, after the love bombing, I guess of my own brokenness, I led him to think that I went to dinner with another man, he hot upset because I wouldn't tell him what restaurant we went to and Hung up on me, so I took that opportunity to get rid of him, I won't lie it's been really hard but I'm standing my ground, he's blocked for ever,
Blocked forever? Years ago, I ended the relationship with a narcissist. On a regular basis she was dropping by my home un-invited trying to get back together. It went on for years, until she met husband #3. Then when divorce #3 took place three years later, she started up again. I finally got her to stop coming by by asking her to pay me back some of the money she “borrowed.” I am relieved that I have not seen or heard from her in 6 years now. Narcissists never get better and get worse as they get older. Good luck to you.
Stay Strong. Because the BS will come. But Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉❤
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That is a good move. I like it. Good job! Hows it going lately? Is he still chasing you?
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@@robertafierro5592Good point. I feel i slowly geting there with my narcissist ex-wife. She's hit the early phases of the wall. Shallow personality with no long term friends or famiky. She lives a fake life 24/7. Glad im not wjth her
So true Joe. Broken people break people. Broken people attract other broken people. I’m an empathetic people pleaser with childhood emotional attachment issues. The narcissist sniffed this out. I can walk away. I have walked away. Spent a year licking my wounds and I am still possessed by him to an extent. I was a fixer and saver. I now know you can only fix or save yourself. Now is time to move forward with my moral compass, values and standards back intact. Inner determination and willpower spur me forward. I’m a lot stronger than I realised. I actually do love the new me I am becoming. ❤
I used to be attracted to the wounds of the narc because he mirrored mine, but the experience with him was so traumatic, eye opening and life changing that I can no longer stand people that remind me of him. I was forced to heal essentially lol.
How cold is too cold before you begin to look no different from the narcissist and the other toxic people in your life? The last thing I want is to become so cold and indifferent that I lose the very heart of who I am. The compassion, the passion and love for others is the very thing that makes me vulnerable to the abuse is the one thing that sets me apart from them. That’s the very essence that they want to steal from you. The very thing they deny others. Does love truly cover a multitude of sins? I know that love does not fix a narcissist, but to give up what makes me who I am may be too steep a price to pay.
Judging by who you say you are I think it would be nearly impossible to lose who you truly are. I believe you could isolate yourself so much that nobody is ever able to see who you are”truly are” but you will always remain a deep caring person within. If that’s what you mean by being “cold or indifferent that yes that’s no good. Think of your heart, your “true self” as a City. It’s been compromised by the enemy. Don’t surrender to pity and resentment. No rebuild those walls. Grow in wisdom to defend yourself. But at the same time defend what you stand for so that your heart can welcome those who want it and need it.
I believe they feel they own you. You will always be broken like them. a childhood friend told me, she is a narcissist. I laughed at first, because who would admit that? looking back on it, now she was arrogantly admitting it
Some of them tell you real things about them, but it’s almost like fishing for complements, they want you to justify why they do the things they do. I used to be like “oh no, you have just been through a lot, you’re traumatized.” When I should have been like “Interesting, what makes you think that…” and put it back on them and never fought to rationalize anything for them. When people tell you who they are, believe them. Narcissists will be like, “ I told them, the signs were there, it’s on them.”
@PrettyIndependent1 never looked at it that way. I tried to distance myself slowly, but she would call me a lot more. every day sometimes 2x a day. Just weird
@@SunandSunflowers oh yeah they can feel when you try to slip away, so then they try to shower you with attention and want you to get used to it, and expect it, then they will try to starve you of it so you think, “what did I do?” Now you’re calling them. Bait and switch.
It takes some time to realise the ways of a toxic person. This is what it is - a poisonous bond. It feels so good when you are into healing. Best away from those people - they have no soul.
You may be right about the long term effects but I would rather be alone than ever deal with one again. I have to learn whatever new skills I need to in order to move forward and live in this world with people like this.
I dated a "People fixer" for about 9 months. And she ended being the most toxic and passive aggressive person I ever dealt with. Completely smeared me, assassinated my character, said she was going to kill herself and ghosted.
Good morning ! 🌞Joe is finally back !👏👏👏 Lets have a cup of joe☕☕ with Joe and find out more mysteries about narcissisms. Yes they are very interesting to us, because they are so not like we are, it's simply shocking. When this experience dealing with evil left in the past, we learnt that we need to be cautious about to whom to we open our hearts to. Thank you for a new video Joe , remember we always waiting for it ! 🤗❤
When you Realize excitement is not Reality, it becomes something completely different. ...Was talking to a friend just before this talk appeared who also has been through N abuse - We talked about how we now very slowly and carefully made "ordinary" friends. How we appreciate and enjoy the pure Love and the Trust. Kindness and mutual Respect. When you realise that illusions hurt - not just yourself but also others - because it is Not Real, you travel a real road of Freedom. You make Peace with what is Not Real. You become a satisfied person. 💜 Thank you Joe.
Im 20 years divorces from my narcissist ex-wife. We have 2 beautiful children now adults. Im not exaggerating, for 20 years she has been going thru the narc relationship cycle. Every 3 to 6 months I hear from ny son or daughter the drama stories of their mom discarding some new bf. Ive had a few gfs of my own. I still miss her but I cannot go back. She is constantly baiting, love bombing, devaluing and discarding new men. It's diabolic. Her body count is between 50 and 60. How am I supposed to deal with this?
Why would you miss that? The parts you think you miss probably were the parts where she mirrored your own character but it never lasted. It can’t. The best way to stay out of Narc relationships is to really recognize yourself. Imagine what you come across to people who meet you. Then recognize when you meet someone if they are just shapeshifting to look like your soul mate by looking like a mirrored version of you. There can be the real thing. But those are a bit more aloof and less charming. And can handle boundaries and don’t rush things.
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@PrettyIndependent1 .... I forgot to tell you she is very very attractive. I mean she was very attractive enter twenties. Thirty's a little less. Now in her mid 40s breast implants and a nose job, liquor belly, big flat ass, thicker thighs, fake tan, bleached hair, expensive clothing, sunglasses all day everyday, free-time either shopping, eating, drinking. crying, complaining or sleeping. She gets away with it because there's always some fool out there that will kiss her ass because she looks the way she looks lets her do what she wants, go wherever she wants, until he inflicts a narcissist injury on her accidentally or purposely. She then either cheats on him or lines-up his replacement source of supply and begins devaluing him before suddenly and harshly discarding him. No closure. No remorse.
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@@PrettyIndependent1 To be honest the sex we had was well below par. She would give me an attitude a lot like like she just like it. Give me a hard time about doing it like it was. She wasn't into it like I was into it least. Not all the time, I had to get her drunk to do that or have a day off from work next day. We could never fuck on on a work night. Then if
The narcissist I left and divorcing said to me oh your gonna get married again I didn't even reply to his text message at all ,I have since gone no contact it's almost a year and he is reaching out no thanks I'm done dealing with evil forever 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
It’s that self loathing they left me with which I go back n forth trying to shed that skin they put onto me that was really his own self loathing n shame! My ears are ringing still after his last attack a month later my head burns in pain yet after that physical violence how is it I’m even in mourning over an empty shell that doesn’t even feel existed n it feels like I was alone for six years with this thing or person that feels unreal now
That was a great video Joe! Thank you for saying all this. True they cannot be real and they create illusions that they are very smug about because they think they have the upper hand, with their game playing devious natures. But for my narc, I always saw it blow up on her and backfire. Her pattern of manipulation caused more misery for her but it was a perpetual cycle she cannot come out of. It is ingrained. I was one of the very few people that saw the real her. I saw her weaknesses and vulnerabilities and when I wouldn’t be controlled any longer, I saw her face of evil and what she is truly capable of. You’re right they possess you for a time, they seal your life up and they don’t expect you to ever break that seal, because they put it there so they think you don’t know what they’ve done. I left my narc and I took my power back. Didn’t contact her. She messaged me every week until she started calling. I told her no I cannot and don’t want to talk to her. Now she is going to be spinning out of control, wondering her next chess move and how she can check mate me.
It’s beyond whatever I’ve experienced! I get this brain vomit I feel spewing out this oozing green liquid that runs down my throat n into my cells! I have to force myself not to think anything good of him as truth is there never was looking back I sicken myself still thinking of this dangerous drug n colonic abusive penniless and no home or vehicle I had been lied to that he had more ughh
I refuse to give my abusers the excuse for being abusers by saying their trauma was probably worse than mine. It wasn't. It was different, their needs weren't all met and their genetics built this into grandiosity and Narcissism. I had to live through EVERY single type of abuse there is, since I was barely able to walk. And I'm tired of hearing some of my abusers say that "They had a difficult life, as well. " Difficult? Don't make me laugh!
@@dezonwill33 thanks for validating. My boyfriend was in a relationship with a covert narc, and even tho she (his ex) is already engaged with someone, she was still stalking us. Well me mostly since he blocked her in everything. Once I found out that she was stalking me, I thought how it was so odd considering how she proudly brags about being engaged with "the right guy finally" lol she has been stalking for a year then I blocked her ass
28 years of emotional and verbal abuse, gaslighting, serial cheating. I'm still trying to force myself to divorce him. Soooo trauma bonded for soooo long. I've convinced myself the good times are worth the abuse, disrespect and pain.
Wizards first rule??? ILLUSION OR MORE A DELUSION I sent back to you RR your the board n I no longer choose to be your pawn so who’s even going to get into your game n stay or even last if your board is fundamentally BORING for everyone around you! I got under your skin n that was the last bit I keep n burn it to move on n you will be those ashes at some point
Great subject for shrinks, advisors and counselors to make big money. Your behaviors are the reason how you see the other person reacting. Your behaviors around these people are what the problem is. Toxicity you mention and see is how you behave and drive them crazy yourself because you have no boundaries and limits controlling their lives. What a messed up world its becoming. Everyone according to that opposite person eventually a narcissist based on their side of the story and people fall into this. Great agenda to bring everyone’s lives to optimum loneliness. Please stop abusing this serious subject
What narcs do should be a crime. It’s a con game. Any person that needs to use game to receive love is a pathetic creature. You can evolve from the narc. Read the word of God, pray and fast. You will heal. Jesus heals and reveals. Remember: when Satan can’t get to you-he sends a narcissist. Don’t be so doom and gloom Joe. There is abundance post narcissist.
I put up with this Narc for 7yrs I got so sick of the Gas lighting, the Gosting, after the love bombing, I guess of my own brokenness, I led him to think that I went to dinner with another man, he hot upset because I wouldn't tell him what restaurant we went to and Hung up on me, so I took that opportunity to get rid of him, I won't lie it's been really hard but I'm standing my ground, he's blocked for ever,
Blocked forever? Years ago, I ended the relationship with a narcissist. On a regular basis she was dropping by my home un-invited trying to get back together. It went on for years, until she met husband #3. Then when divorce #3 took place three years later, she started up again. I finally got her to stop coming by by asking her to pay me back some of the money she “borrowed.” I am relieved that I have not seen or heard from her in 6 years now. Narcissists never get better and get worse as they get older. Good luck to you.
You'll reach a point where you actually enjoy your life and you'll be asking yourself why you didn't leave him earlier!
Stay Strong. Because the BS will come. But Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉❤
That is a good move. I like it. Good job! Hows it going lately? Is he still chasing you?
@@robertafierro5592Good point. I feel i slowly geting there with my narcissist ex-wife. She's hit the early phases of the wall. Shallow personality with no long term friends or famiky. She lives a fake life 24/7. Glad im not wjth her
So true Joe. Broken people break people. Broken people attract other broken people. I’m an empathetic people pleaser with childhood emotional attachment issues. The narcissist sniffed this out. I can walk away. I have walked away. Spent a year licking my wounds and I am still possessed by him to an extent. I was a fixer and saver. I now know you can only fix or save yourself. Now is time to move forward with my moral compass, values and standards back intact. Inner determination and willpower spur me forward. I’m a lot stronger than I realised. I actually do love the new me I am becoming. ❤
I used to be attracted to the wounds of the narc because he mirrored mine, but the experience with him was so traumatic, eye opening and life changing that I can no longer stand people that remind me of him. I was forced to heal essentially lol.
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Ever. And I watch different channels. No channel like Joe❤
Most of us didn't know anything about this until we were devoured by the beast. Soon we become experts.
How cold is too cold before you begin to look no different from the narcissist and the other toxic people in your life? The last thing I want is to become so cold and indifferent that I lose the very heart of who I am. The compassion, the passion and love for others is the very thing that makes me vulnerable to the abuse is the one thing that sets me apart from them. That’s the very essence that they want to steal from you. The very thing they deny others. Does love truly cover a multitude of sins? I know that love does not fix a narcissist, but to give up what makes me who I am may be too steep a price to pay.
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Judging by who you say you are I think it would be nearly impossible to lose who you truly are. I believe you could isolate yourself so much that nobody is ever able to see who you are”truly are” but you will always remain a deep caring person within. If that’s what you mean by being “cold or indifferent that yes that’s no good.
Think of your heart, your “true self” as a City. It’s been compromised by the enemy. Don’t surrender to pity and resentment. No rebuild those walls. Grow in wisdom to defend yourself. But at the same time defend what you stand for so that your heart can welcome those who want it and need it.
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I believe they feel they own you. You will always be broken like them. a childhood friend told me, she is a narcissist. I laughed at first, because who would admit that? looking back on it, now she was arrogantly admitting it
Some of them tell you real things about them, but it’s almost like fishing for complements, they want you to justify why they do the things they do. I used to be like “oh no, you have just been through a lot, you’re traumatized.” When I should have been like “Interesting, what makes you think that…” and put it back on them and never fought to rationalize anything for them. When people tell you who they are, believe them. Narcissists will be like, “ I told them, the signs were there, it’s on them.”
@PrettyIndependent1 never looked at it that way. I tried to distance myself slowly, but she would call me a lot more. every day sometimes 2x a day. Just weird
@@SunandSunflowers oh yeah they can feel when you try to slip away, so then they try to shower you with attention and want you to get used to it, and expect it, then they will try to starve you of it so you think, “what did I do?” Now you’re calling them. Bait and switch.
I had good parents. Parents who raised me to have boundaries - to his surprise.
Your words, your tempo and vidoegraphy are very soothing .You have wonderful insight. Your voice is very very friendly and having a peace in it.
Yes he is amazing ! 😊
It takes some time to realise the ways of a toxic person. This is what it is - a poisonous bond. It feels so good when you are into healing. Best away from those people - they have no soul.
WOW! Love this: "Learned callous, thick skinned behaviors." Powerful.
You may be right about the long term effects but I would rather be alone than ever deal with one again. I have to learn whatever new skills I need to in order to move forward and live in this world with people like this.
I dated a "People fixer" for about 9 months. And she ended being the most toxic and passive aggressive person I ever dealt with. Completely smeared me, assassinated my character, said she was going to kill herself and ghosted.
Wow! My mother is a borderline. What you said about as a child having to normalize red flags to survive…. Spot on!
A really scary world
A lot for those of us who are empaths and travel solo 🕊❤️🙏
Good morning ! 🌞Joe is finally back !👏👏👏 Lets have a cup of joe☕☕ with Joe and find out more mysteries about narcissisms. Yes they are very interesting to us, because they are so not like we are, it's simply shocking. When this experience dealing with evil left in the past, we learnt that we need to be cautious about to whom to we open our hearts to. Thank you for a new video Joe , remember we always waiting for it ! 🤗❤
Yes we do wait !!
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When you Realize excitement is not Reality, it becomes something completely different.
...Was talking to a friend just before this talk appeared who also has been through N abuse - We talked about how we now very slowly and carefully made "ordinary" friends. How we appreciate and enjoy the pure Love and the Trust. Kindness and mutual Respect. When you realise that illusions hurt - not just yourself but also others - because it is Not Real, you travel a real road of Freedom. You make Peace with what is Not Real. You become a satisfied person. 💜 Thank you Joe.
Well said and so true!
Im 20 years divorces from my narcissist ex-wife. We have 2 beautiful children now adults. Im not exaggerating, for 20 years she has been going thru the narc relationship cycle. Every 3 to 6 months I hear from ny son or daughter the drama stories of their mom discarding some new bf. Ive had a few gfs of my own. I still miss her but I cannot go back. She is constantly baiting, love bombing, devaluing and discarding new men. It's diabolic. Her body count is between 50 and 60. How am I supposed to deal with this?
Why would you miss that? The parts you think you miss probably were the parts where she mirrored your own character but it never lasted. It can’t. The best way to stay out of Narc relationships is to really recognize yourself. Imagine what you come across to people who meet you. Then recognize when you meet someone if they are just shapeshifting to look like your soul mate by looking like a mirrored version of you. There can be the real thing. But those are a bit more aloof and less charming. And can handle boundaries and don’t rush things.
@PrettyIndependent1
.... I forgot to tell you she is very very attractive. I mean she was very attractive enter twenties. Thirty's a little less. Now in her mid 40s breast implants and a nose job, liquor belly, big flat ass, thicker thighs, fake tan, bleached hair, expensive clothing, sunglasses all day everyday, free-time either shopping, eating, drinking. crying, complaining or sleeping. She gets away with it because there's always some fool out there that will kiss her ass because she looks the way she looks lets her do what she wants, go wherever she wants, until he inflicts a narcissist injury on her accidentally or purposely. She then either cheats on him or lines-up his replacement source of supply and begins devaluing him before suddenly and harshly discarding him. No closure. No remorse.
@@PrettyIndependent1 To be honest the sex we had was well below par. She would give me an attitude a lot like like she just like it. Give me a hard time about doing it like it was. She wasn't into it like I was into it least. Not all the time, I had to get her drunk to do that or have a day off from work next day. We could never fuck on on a work night. Then if
Only a STRONG person can deal with that problem...
I normalized it in my childhood. Absolutely.
O more of lovely Joe….thankyou 🙏🏻❤️…….your words & wisdom always have such a big impact on me. What a truly wise kind soul you are 🥰
Thank you for your kind and supportive words ❤️
Good morning Joe and thank you 👨🏾🙏🏾
This was the best of your ruminations for me. Thanks!
The narcissist I left and divorcing said to me oh your gonna get married again I didn't even reply to his text message at all ,I have since gone no contact it's almost a year and he is reaching out no thanks I'm done dealing with evil forever 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Broken can be a rough life . Been to hell and back. Worn from life experience. Called life.
It’s that self loathing they left me with which I go back n forth trying to shed that skin they put onto me that was really his own self loathing n shame! My ears are ringing still after his last attack a month later my head burns in pain yet after that physical violence how is it I’m even in mourning over an empty shell that doesn’t even feel existed n it feels like I was alone for six years with this thing or person that feels unreal now
As always spot on Joe regards Bill UK
That was a great video Joe! Thank you for saying all this. True they cannot be real and they create illusions that they are very smug about because they think they have the upper hand, with their game playing devious natures. But for my narc, I always saw it blow up on her and backfire. Her pattern of manipulation caused more misery for her but it was a perpetual cycle she cannot come out of. It is ingrained.
I was one of the very few people that saw the real her. I saw her weaknesses and vulnerabilities and when I wouldn’t be controlled any longer, I saw her face of evil and what she is truly capable of.
You’re right they possess you for a time, they seal your life up and they don’t expect you to ever break that seal, because they put it there so they think you don’t know what they’ve done.
I left my narc and I took my power back. Didn’t contact her. She messaged me every week until she started calling. I told her no I cannot and don’t want to talk to her. Now she is going to be spinning out of control, wondering her next chess move and how she can check mate me.
I did like the illusion, but not enough to not walk away.
It’s beyond whatever I’ve experienced! I get this brain vomit I feel spewing out this oozing green liquid that runs down my throat n into my cells! I have to force myself not to think anything good of him as truth is there never was looking back I sicken myself still thinking of this dangerous drug n colonic abusive penniless and no home or vehicle I had been lied to that he had more ughh
I don’t feel I’ll ever reach that point of looking back n seeing it’s his purpose in my life other than death n loss
If ever I wasn't a sigma?... I'm a sigma now!
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Beautiful ending 👏🏾
A different person for every target. Yes, they do that. When I saw him doing it with the other girl, I thought, who are you?
I refuse to give my abusers the excuse for being abusers by saying their trauma was probably worse than mine. It wasn't. It was different, their needs weren't all met and their genetics built this into grandiosity and Narcissism. I had to live through EVERY single type of abuse there is, since I was barely able to walk. And I'm tired of hearing some of my abusers say that "They had a difficult life, as well. " Difficult? Don't make me laugh!
Great video! Thank you so much!
Love your voice
Is it possible that narcissists will stalk their former victim's new relationship?
Definitely! My ex narcissist has been stalking my new girlfriend for 2 years after putting spyware on my phone!!!! They just don’t care
@@dezonwill33 thanks for validating. My boyfriend was in a relationship with a covert narc, and even tho she (his ex) is already engaged with someone, she was still stalking us. Well me mostly since he blocked her in everything. Once I found out that she was stalking me, I thought how it was so odd considering how she proudly brags about being engaged with "the right guy finally" lol she has been stalking for a year then I blocked her ass
Thank You So Very Much for Your Support ⭐
28 years of emotional and verbal abuse, gaslighting, serial cheating. I'm still trying to force myself to divorce him. Soooo trauma bonded for soooo long. I've convinced myself the good times are worth the abuse, disrespect and pain.
Narky respects STRONG that's power. Your the opposite of that...
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Wizards first rule??? ILLUSION OR MORE A DELUSION I sent back to you RR your the board n I no longer choose to be your pawn so who’s even going to get into your game n stay or even last if your board is fundamentally BORING for everyone around you! I got under your skin n that was the last bit I keep n burn it to move on n you will be those ashes at some point
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Great subject for shrinks, advisors and counselors to make big money. Your behaviors are the reason how you see the other person reacting. Your behaviors around these people are what the problem is. Toxicity you mention and see is how you behave and drive them crazy yourself because you have no boundaries and limits controlling their lives. What a messed up world its becoming. Everyone according to that opposite person eventually a narcissist based on their side of the story and people fall into this. Great agenda to bring everyone’s lives to optimum loneliness. Please stop abusing this serious subject
What narcs do should be a crime. It’s a con game. Any person that needs to use game to receive love is a pathetic creature. You can evolve from the narc. Read the word of God, pray and fast. You will heal. Jesus heals and reveals. Remember: when Satan can’t get to you-he sends a narcissist. Don’t be so doom and gloom Joe. There is abundance post narcissist.
This
A really scary world
A lot for those of us who are empaths and travel solo 🕊❤️🙏