My Musical Journey: Extreme Metal
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- A viewer sent in a question asking about how I got into extreme music. That’s a bit of a convoluted question so I decided to film a series of videos talking about how I got into the various genres that I’m into.
Today’s video is going to be discussing how I got into extreme metal.
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My jr high English teacher was in a death metal band, He would let us listen to death metal in his room at lunch, and would lend us CDs. Big part of how I got into extreme metal.
holy shit, what was the band called? and what member was he
Enthroned. He played guitar/vocals. I actually designed the band logo, and made a banner. He wanted it to look like Deicide font : )
There was a bigger death or black metal band called Enthroned- not that band. They never were signed or anything like that. They did play on the quad at our school though, which was epic!
When black metal felt like stumbling into something you weren't supposed to and everything felt mysterious...yeah, totally dude, well said.
“It was a culture I had no control over, I couldn’t change everything.” This is what white kids need to realize when they wanna say the n word at hip hop shows. Not trying to stir shit up, I just thought that was really well said by you. Great series Myke.
BOOM.
especially when rappers askes them to sing a verse on stage with 30 'niggas' in it
@Outsider completly agree. its not just you.
It's great that those asshole bands didn't hinder your appreciation of the genre.
The black metal tape trading stories had me dying XD
Body Count's in the houuuuuse (Body Count)
Emperor's in the houuuuuse (Emperor)
Ironic that the Norwegian black metal band's were influenced by Blasphemy, Sarcofago, and Mystifier. Black metal bands with a member or members of African descent.
Sarcofago with African descent?
Anyone else follow the same progression as him? A 'core genre --> Thrash metal --> Death metal --> Black metal
I feel like that is a pretty common musical progression into extreme metal.
Yep
When Swank Magazine wrote about black metal back in '99 or 2000 I knew it was gonna be huge sooner or later, but those days when it was still new were to me as exciting as finding crust and death metal in the very early 90's. Great story, man, very very reminiscent of my own. It's funny how people so geographically removed walk similar paths without even knowing it.
Yeah, man. I think it's an age thing. Being a music nerd back then meant getting out of the house and working to discover shit. So you appreciated it more because of the process. These days being a "music nerd" means someone who sits on Twitter and gets mp3s from friends. It's just odd to me. But yeah, I think a lot of us our age discovered music in a similar fashion because that was really the only viable option. And I'm just glad I came up that way...
Hey Myke. I enjoyed your storytelling on this and your perspective as you look back on the past. Your music taste is very diverse in comparison to most people and it’s nice you actually have knowledge to back a bit of it up. I went to Metal after the punk scene as well for a period so I can relate to the feeling of just discovering an entirely new genre and being infatuated by it. A lot of trite nonsense involved before the internet era actually ended up making the listen much more worth it. Thanks for sharing :)
Xoxo~ Guila
Awesome video! So awesome to see your wide range of tastes expounded upon, these are super insightful!
Dude you posted this at the perfect time! I'm just now getting into metal and I can't wait to find more and more stuff
You are the man, Myke! :) I really enjoyed this series.
Great video and series Myke!
Great video! When I was in middle school my buddy played Rage Against the Machine for me (I think it was "Bombtrack") and I was instantly hooked. Then it went System of a Down -> Metallica -> Megadeth -> Slayer -> Opeth and here we are, scouring the internet for the heaviest stuff daily.
this is a wonderful video, love experiencing someone's memories through them. being 21, Nu Metal was kinda saturated everywhere growing up. and stuff like Metallica of course. but my love for extreme/weird music started at 13 when i discovered the Primus album Pork Soda. it rocked my brain! completely shifted the shape of how i listened to music. another big one that got me to heavier music was Mastodon's Leviathan.
Man, I remember that compilation. A friend had it, so it must've been either released in Europe as well or he took it from the states, but there was a lot of good stuff on there.
Great video and series by the way, extremely enjoyable,
This reminds me of when I got Final Fantasy 7 Dirge Of Cerberus for the PS2. Gackt did the song for the game ( Redemption ) and I thought it was so different than Three Days Grace and Slipknot and the music I was listening to as a kid. I didn't have internet at the time, it was like a shard from a different dimension.
You bet your ass years later when I got internet I looked up Gackt, his previous band Malice Mizer, their forefathers in X Japan and Luna Sea. I was drowning in the stuff man it was so cool. So different from the american music that I heard on the radio and the metal on Guitar Hero. I was discovering Anime from bands that did openings for their songs instead of vice versa haha. Their aesthetic in fashion was amazing to me as well.
Ah man, your video takes me back to high school and the fun of discovering new genres and subcultures. Darkthrone was my first exposure to Black Metal as well but I hated the raw and minimalist sound. It took me years to learn to appreciate and "get it". Ulver's Bergtatt is that one album for me.
Final? No goth one? I would very much enjoy that if it happens.
Della Yassine I believe he did a video like that called when he was a goth kid he talks about how he got into goth music
six sense I know. But he didn't talk much about music in that one.
yeah me too. I love the genre and I know my boy myke loves that genre so it would be nice to see what got him into it
Hmmm...I guess it's a possibility. I just don't know that it's really an interesting story at all. Let me think about it.
The thing that attracted me to metal is the power. A lot of people talk about the aggression in metal. Aggression is definitely there, but to me there's just this power in metal that inspires me. It's grounding. I can listen to and enjoy a lot of different music for various reasons but nothing makes me feel as confident and grounded as metal. I can walk through the city and feel engaged and in the moment listening to Rush or Björk or whatever, but only metal makes me feel like the king of my own fucking life.
Very cool video, dude. I enjoyed the insight.
Been in to metal my whole life (as well as basically every other kind of music)
And I remember the original 2nd wave of Black Metal hitting Ireland around 91 or 92 while I was in college. But I had my Faith No More, my Metallica, my Slayer, my Alice in Chains and my Pantera and I just thought this other stuff was too extreme (but I did try to listen to Death Metal and Grindcore a little bit)
But along came the internet and youtube and about 12 years ago after looking at a lot of Sabbath videos I got a recommendation for Opeth's "Porcelain Heart" and I gave it a listen and I got utterly hooked and then I started needing that same type of atmosphere (but somehow MORE) and so I started trawling backwards in to the Black Metal world and I've been hooked ever since.
Spotify play lists and UA-cam are my main sources of finding new and old stuff. Then I try to find the CD's in the handful of music shops remaining in Dublin (I'll probably start buying stuff from bandcamp I guess.
This video made me miss being a teenager & going to Cheapo (used record/CD shop that was in Austin) as much as I could to spend hours flipping through punk CDs and finding new bands through covers & song titles.
Nice storytelling, enjoyed it!
Body Count XD got me to chuckle. Great video man
Thenceforward is tight! I first heard them on a comp and since got their "Winner" EP eventually.
Gotta love the nineties. Got into extreme metal in the 90s too. Miss those days sometimes. Now its just one click on the keyboard of the computer and its there. It came "less obscure" and maybe to easy to get to all of those bands.
The first two full albums I ever listened to on my own were King Diamond's Abigail and a bundle with TSOL's self titled and Weathered Statues EPs. I found them as CDs for checkout at the LA Central Library the summer before 9th grade.
I actually couldn't get into King Diamond all that much, but TSOL was very cool.
that's what i feel i'm missing with internet discovering, it is kinda superficial..
King Diamond and Metalica performed 13 minutes of Satan at ozzfest 2012 here in texas, it was wild.
Asked on a reddit thread for some recommendations and got death and black metal albums. Burzum, Dissection, Darkthrone, In Flames, Watain, Death, Opeth. Now I'm listening to more and more metal in general and it's great.
I was a trve black/death/grind junkie in my teens, my poor parents. It was and still is magic! So many good albums and bands out there to discover so maybe it's a good thing everyone now knows about it :). Mike i never hear you talk about electronic music, have you ever checked out aphex twin or autechre? That's some of the best music i ever heard, don't miss out. cheers and beers!
Those story telling videos are your absolutely best , i feel like i'm reading an insane edgy musical diary
At first when I was younger (maybe around 13) I was mainly listening to classic rock, stuff like Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Floyd, etc... A little after that is when I slowly started listening to more Sabbath and Maiden and I honestly didn't look any further than that for a long long time. I knew who Metallica was and Anthrax and Judas Priest, Motorhead, etc. but none of those bands really got me hooked on metal. Fast forward to about age 19 or 20, that's when I FINALLY started listening to stuff like Misfits, Bad Brains, Black Flag, Adolescents, Discharge, Suicidal Tendencies and all the classic hardcore bands. That's when I realized I felt the connection with heavier music. During this same time I was heavily getting into Slayer and even some crossover stuff like Cro-Mags. But I think Slayer was the first thrash band and metal band in general that I really really became obsessed with, and I think it took me so long to warm up to most metal just because I didn't understand and take to the vocals. After only listening to just Slayer for a while, my old manager who was a serious metalhead would just play music when we'd be closing at work. One night he showed me Death, specifically Pull The Plug... I was absolutely captivated and it was the very first time I heard vocals that heavy that I actually enjoyed it, not long after I became obsessed. I eventually checked out stuff like Morbid Angel, Possessed, Sodom and was totally enthralled. Then came Black Metal a couple months after taking to Death Metal. I heard Jesus Tod by Burzum and became even more obsessed with metal as a whole, obviously checking out bands like Darkthrone, Mayhem, Bathory, Sarcofago, Beherit and Immortal feeding my obsession. I'm only 22 now so my discovery of all this music is still very fresh and it's all still fairly new to me and think Black Metal has become my favorite sub-genre at this point in time. Love the video Myke, it's always interesting hearing peoples entry points into extreme music because they're always so different!
Your a good man. I too love Black Metal and realize that some factions have overt racist undercurrents. I've been a victim of what I call "musical prejudice" because I'm primarily a metalhead but I also love The Carpenters, The Doors and Billie Eilish. But, to the point. It's great that you didn't let that childish racism destroy your love for music and it's diversity. Music knows no boundaries and welcomes all ethnicities.
Back in 94. I discovered Cannibal Corpse and Carcass. And I saw Mayhem with last spring.
I started listening to the big metal bands like Metallica and Maiden because of friends I had in school and I remember being blown away by it cause when you're a 13 year old suburban white kid metal is something entirely new. And so over the years I started floating between thrash, punk, hardcore, and orchestral metal and then I just kinda stopped listening to metal entirely. I started listening to more hip hop and rap (granted still not very good stuff as I was an angsty teenager) but within the last couple of years I started doing a deep dive into other genres like industrial and goth which led me to really enjoying black metal and doom metal. My close friend showed me My Dying Bride a couple months back and that was just the perfect mix of goth vocals and styling with the slam of metal that I loved. And I think there is a huge benefit to the internet for discovering music as without it I wouldn't have heard of stoner metal groups like Sleep and Dopesmoker or black metal groups. Overall I'm a huge fan myke and this video was really cool to seeing the shit behind finding music back in the day
I know this video is 3 years old but I wanted to share my experience. The first album I ever bought was 21st Century Breakdown by Green Day (my favorite band of all time). This lead me to discovering alt rock and punk bands such as Foo Fighters, Smashing Pumpkins, The Offspring, and Rise Against (my 2nd favorite band of all time). I had heard the hits of Black Sabbath and Metallica but the first heavy music I really got into was Linkin Park and then Disturbed. This was the type of heavy music that I listened to for a long time. Then in the past year I got into a big musical deep dive on UA-cam that went like this: Deftones -> Parkway Drive -> PunkRockMBA video about Deathcore -> PunkRockMBA video about Suicide Silence -> Suicide Silence -> videos about the history of Death Metal -> Death -> videos about the history of Black Metal -> Bathory -> Darkthrone -> Dissection -> Thy Catafalque. Kind of a weird progression but it's how I got to a place where I am exited to check out extreme metal bands I have not heard before.
starting your metal journey with King Diamond and Manowar is trve as hell, haha! Real Rocker Shit \m/
I got into black metal around 1998 after ordering some Mortician vinyl eps from relapse records. The pack my vinyl was in was stamped with ads for Mayhem's wolf layer abyss. I was like who are these guys. Gotta say at first the corpse paint turned me off. I thought it looked silly but man music wise I loved the raspy vocals and tremelo picking. From there I picked up the Emperor/Enslaved split on cassette, Satyricon's Rebel Extravaganza, Mortiis' Crypt of the Wizard, Cradle of Filth's Cruelty and the Beast, and bought Rotting Christ's Triarchy of Lost Lovers and Thy Mighty Contract used. Also being on a college campus with awesome Ethernet speed and Napster was still legal at the time I downloaded bootlegs of Burzum mp3s and Sigh mp3s since that stuff was incredibly hard to find. It was the time of sending money orders for imports and hoping your CD would arrive.
Meshuggah’s The Violent Sleep of Reason was my introduction.
Your Scene back then reminds me a lot of the local Hardcore/Punk scene i came up in. I should make a video about my Skinhead's at The Elks Club story.
Fucking love this man. I was thinking the other day how even though I love and listen to music as much as back in the day sometimes you get this feeling when listening to an old record that just throws you back, a flashback and you get 'that' undesribable feeling when you were much younger and naive about stuff and lots of that shit was new. As you say extreme metal was looked down upon. You were basically a satanist to everybody in your neighbourhood. I used to carry a Deicide s/t cassette in my bag and felt like I was walking around with Crowley or some shit. Great times.
I used to live in the Gainesville area about 11 years ago
I just left a really nasty comment on your co-review of Twitching Tongues. But you did mention Candlemass, Only Living Witness, Merauder, and Integrity so I figured you must know something so I searched some more.
Anyway, this was fun to listen to. I was the reverse though - I started with metal on Headbangers Ball, then more extreme metal, and then hardcore by 1995. I actually never really got much into black metal - though I was familiar with the sketchy beliefs.
The Living Colour / Body Count quip was funny.
Awesome King Diamond shirt.
What was your band in the 90s?
A buddy of mine started giving me CDs in the early 00s. Every week a new stack. He called it Ben’s School of Death Metal.
I feel strange. Seems that everyone was just walking around one day and found an extreme metal album and instantly fell in love with it. Like It took me months fully appreciate the genre, and for a long time Slayer was the most extreme thing that I could listen to, although I felt really curious about the more extreme genres. I don't know
Edouardo Apellidos I'm right there with you man. I didn't appreciate extreme metal for years and just thought it was noise until something just clicked when I listened to Stripped, Raped and strangled by Cannibal corpse. I realised how good the lyrics were and that just changed everything for me
you're not alone there bud. I couldn't get into it for the longest either, until one day, I listened to Mayhem, and it just clicked with me
i hung around people who were into alt-metal and i got into it after about 1 year and gradually got into old school death metal like Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus, etc. I got into Black Metal later like senior year of high school. Then i really got into BM from bands like Dark Funeral, Watain, Mayhem, Cradle of Filth, etc. Deicide was one band that i loved then didn't listen to them for a while (grew up in a Christian Household) then got back into them. Now they are a favorite of mine. Now i really love Metal and i really enjoyed discovering metal bands.
i was listening to country music at that time and i just couldn't relate to the fanbase
Unfortunately my generation (I'm 22 ) doesn't have such interesting stories about discovering music. Basically just someone shares some music on the internet or I discover bands and albums by searching on the Internet and that's it. Or my older brother who is around your age says hey listen to this.
Larks' Tongues In Aspic
you are the problem. people younger than you are discovering shit everyday.
while myke was going on his journey, there were people just like you, back in the day, talking the same shit
losgryfog that's not what he meant lol
fullysickrockstar
it sounds like the same thing I see/hear whenever someone plays old music or talks about older music.
"my generation trash, it ain't no good music, you can't find good music now" or "there are no good experiences"
That just shows that they really not checking for it...OR they DON'T KNOW HOW TO RECOGNIZE IT
there are great artist right now and great live music experiences right now.
losgryfog pretty sure he's talking about the process and act of discovering music for the current generation, i.e. the internet, as opposed to the more personalised journey someone like Myke would've had
fullysickrockstar
that's my point
how is the internet stopping you from having a personalized journey?
the internet is no different than a record store. record stores are for everyone, the radio is for everyone, music venues are for everyone.
myke isn't THAT much older than me, and people were saying the... SAME EXACT THING ... when WE were 22.
what y'all are trying to say about the internet is the same thing people said about music videos, the same thing people said about the radio, cds, tapes, traveling bands, whatever.
The people who say this are the people who only listen to what's popular, who only look for music in one place and need it to be verified by certain "gatekeepers".
If you are like myke than you will be on the internet going to the 30th page of Google search results, clicking links that take you to obscure websites, no one is talking about and discovering music no one you know is even aware of, you would be going to random shows you found out about on the internet just for the fuck of it.
What myke is talking about is happening right now, it's just a genre y'all don't know about, and a scene you aren't a part of.
The blackend album was a part of my beginnings. Throne of ahaz is so good. Do you have that one on vinyl?
You’re from Conyers! I know Covingtons not Conyers, but I’m from Convington, and I got to ask: favorite flavor from Scoops?
King diamond Them was the first Metal band I had ever heard. First listen to em back in 2000 on a cassette tape lol. Creepy shit at the time for me. I had never heard anything like it. Then I came across Cradle of filth Cruelty and the beast. 🖤 still their best album... idk what happen to the re-release of the vinyl... was supposed to be this month... no word of it though
Big respect to you man...some assholes during your time did not hinder you to continue loving metal ...keep it up ^^
monster x was a great sxe band, but definitely slept on because their unorthodox style
Hey Myke, its kind of out of context with this video but can you talk about ir or review Solace by Earl Sweatshirt?
I dig that shirt, where did you get it❓🔥
Trading music with pen pals sounds so cool. By the time I heavily got into music the internet was exploding, so I didn't really have much chance or need to do stuff like that.
I think it was the best way to find music. It was natural and organic.
I remember when I got into extreme metal and wondering why it wasn't as popular as it was. Shit was mindblowing to me and I though for awhile I was more open minded than 99% of people for listening to it haha.
Hey Myke, just wondering if you like Deathspell Omega? Not heard you mention them before
I remember my roommate in college smarterning me up to Cradle Of Filth, Emperor, Darkthrone and Moonspell. I hated it. He was just some random nerd with braces too. He was down and i was dumb.
Are you into electronic music like deep house or techno or anything along those lines? I think I’ve heard you say in other videos that you used to go to electronic music clubs in the 90s but I could be mistaken but I would like to hear how you got into that genre if you ever did
F ya Diamond opened the door for me 2!!!!
i got into through you
i love you
Well, I got into it because of a coworker. And then I used the internet. The end.
Really, it's the 3rd Wave Black Metal scene that jazzes me the most. The Norwegians have their own schtick that gets samey real fast.
Ngl felt like that listening to deafheaven for the first time. Expecting some mellow post metal stuff just to hear vocals that don’t make sense.
Need that shirt! ^,_,^ wheres a good site to buy some good metal shirts?
truth about the tees at the hot topic and wherever teens like to hang out. lol
what do you think about powerviolence?
Some of the first black metal bands had black elements: Like Mystifier and Blasphemy.
The first bands I ever really got into were Gorillaz, The White Stripes, and My Chemical Romance, all of whom I still enjoy, but they didn't have much to do with me getting into metal. Then, one day, my sister burned me a ton of CD's. Like, the discographies of Nirvana, Dead Kennedys, RATM. The heavier aspects of those bands as well as the politics of the latter two got me into System of a Down. The heaviness of SOAD was like nothing I'd ever really heard before, and I immediately got immersed in metal. I started listening to Metallica, which led to Slayer, which led to Pantera. But at the same time, I was getting into Tool which led to me finding Opeth and Between the Buried and Me. Both of them helped me get into death metal and more into prog metal, while BTBAM helped me find Converge. Most importantly, though, the folky aspects of Opeth made me discover Agalloch, which was a huge revelation for me. Before Agalloch, I thought black metal was the dumbest shit ever, but now it's by far my favorite genre. This happened in the span of like two years. By freshman year of high school I was listening to all the black, death, thrash, prog, and doom metal I could get my hands on. There's a lot of bands I'm leaving out, including tons of stuff from other genres that I was exploring. Either way, metal has been my main musical passion since then.
Since you mentioned Converge, you might appreciate this: ua-cam.com/video/eE7pMU_ZTmI/v-deo.html
Probably the craziest show I've seen and I still talk about it today. Obviously.
Ah man, this is so awesome. Old Converge was the shit. They were so young and different back then. Funnily enough, I'm actually seeing Converge with Neurosis tonight! Should be fun.
I came up in the early Internet days, when it was just Usenet message boards and tape-trading, I remember having to call some dude at The End distro to buy black metal CDs, and definitely remember that feeling like you were having this whole world of stuff you weren't supposed to know about opened up to me. Unfortunately, now that's one way white power group recruit people, is through their shitty bands where you still have to dig deep to find it, and it's often marketed as the "real" underground.
Just subbed yesterday. Really diggin your channel man. I'm about to piss off a lot of people about what I'm about to say. My metal journey started off with Nu Metal (sorry, I liked that stuff and still do lol). I eventually got into Thrash Metal, Progressive Metal, and many others. Black Metal and Death Metal is not for me. I've tried to get into those genres but they are just not for me. I do like the band Death tho lol. I'm still trying to get into more subgenres such as industrial metal since that Fear Factory is pretty much the only band from this genre that I listen to at the moment. Anyways, it was nice to hear about your journey.
Interesting. If people get pissed off, fuck 'em. Black and death metal isn't for everyone, dude. Props for being honest!
Thanks man. Death will probably end up being the only death metal band I'll ever like but who knows. I'm not very familiar with the hardcore scene but maybe I'll look more into that stuff. It does feel great when you discover a band or a genre. But anyways, thanks for replying man.
I can guarantee you that well over 50% of the people in this comments box got into heavy music through nu metal (myself included). It's nothing to be ashamed of
Yeah that's true. But yeah, Meteora by Linkin Park started it all for me lol.
Nu metal is great
WOuld you classify groove metal as extreme metal? Like Fear Factory, Cavalera conspiracy?
I wouldn't really. I mean relative to the broader world of music it's definitely extremer music. But I think groove by definition is something that doesn't fit into the more extreme genres (exceptions apply).
Think extremely fast tempos, undiscernible lyrics, ''taboo'' lyrical themes, repetitive riffing, lack of classic song structure.
A lot of the heavier punk stuff like Minor Threat and Exploited actually have a lot in common with the earlier sound of extreme metal. Swap the vocals and some chords and you pretty much have early Celtic Frost haha.
@@Nachtdwaler True, but what if it's death/thrash with groove?
@@pessimistium5507 as I said, exceptions apply haha.
Conyers isn't a super small town anymore Myke. You're dating yourself! Sad to see the series end.
Was this the Cradle of Filth comp you heard?
www.discogs.com/Various-Death-Is-Just-The-Beginning-III/release/5199379
As for myself; discovered extreme metal by stumbling across Dimmu Borgir on my friends Mp3 library in the summer 0f 2005. Been hocked ever since.
Ha! Yup. That's probably the comp!
what was the name of your old band?
HeilDiego! Dawn of Orion
What do the DEHH dudes think about extreme metal?
Best black Metal band is obviously Mystifier.
haha. but seriously, latin american brutallity is something else, yummy
Not even kidding; Wicca and Göetia are brilliant and creepy as fuck.
Love Mystifier. They're back. They just released a reunion album back in March. My favorite release from them is The World is So Good That Who Made It Doesn't Live Here.
Have you heard the new Zeal & Ardor album. I feel in a lot it’s fighting back against the racist subculture within the black metal scene.
My story is lame as fuck. The only music I listened to was my brothers compilations of Latin Pop and some Pop Punk. I found metal through Guitar Hero 2.
Oh crap. Your vid had 666 likes. Now it has 667. Sorry
Haha! Goddammit!
Using the term extreme metal is the first sign your shit isn't extreme at all. And I was right again. Talking about BM mentioning cradle of filth holy shit. Extreme metal basically means "I want to believe that I listen to extreme shit while basically hiding the fact that it's mainly just mainstream melodic death/black metal and if I used a specific genre I had to realize that nothing I mean with by "extreme" is actually part of any underground genre by definition". Extreme metal is anything normies find extreme without digging deeper and without really exploring the stuff beyond death faux grind and black metal. Heartwork. God please no. Disgorge, Brodequin, Devourment, Putridity, Pustulated, Cerebral Effusion. These are extreme.
Damn dude, you give metal a bad name lol
Great! Another metal elitist
"Disgorge, Brodequin, Devourment, Putridity, Pustulated, Cerebral Effusion. These are extreme."
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Don't know which is the more cringier fanbase, black metal or brutal death, good grief.
But yeah, cool fedora man...
@@SeaOfVomit So you basically got a "no u" disguised as some ad hominem cliche tag without bands to compare, arguments or reasons for saying so. Go on listening to your blackened-melo-death-normie-shit telling yourself it's extreme and everyone who has standards beyond yours and doesn't stop at some banger tv mentioned normie bands is some fedora sporting elitist. If it's helping your cognitive dissonance go on shifting the blame for your self inflicted inferiority on everyone else who isn't a fucking pleb ass pussy.
@@celebral_pelosi "Standards", while naming off brutal death bands , KEK.
You brutal death dudes are such tryhards LMAO. Are you reading what you're actually writing? Too funny...