Excellent lecture. Blessings to you.BISHOP R. BARRON. I listen to your lectures daily. I like saying the ROSARY WITH your guidance. Many Thanks. BLessings on you and your team.
@Bishop Barron, please pray for me for my strength in faith and to follow God's will as I discern the priesthood. I will be praying for you and your ministry. God bless. Andrew-UK
@@KEP1983 I'm confused by your replies Keith, are you agreeing with orthodox Catholic church teaching or not? Jesus died for our sins, that is the Good News and he died for everyone, that is classic Catholic theology. We have to repent and accept Jesus as our savior and then continue to grow in holiness through his grace until our natural death and the final judgment.
@@michaelgetz6554 I haven't watched the entire video but all I know is Bishop Barron always preaches the Gospel and has brought many people to Christ, I find it hard to believe that his theology is not in alignment with the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church.
@@beautifulspirit7420 Don't believe these people. You can already see how they themselves are finding difficulty among themselves. This is going on and on and on with every Video of Bishop Barron. And it is the same persons. The Channel is used to it. None of them will ever have a single comment on the posted video's content or message. So you decide for yourself. Bishop Barron has umpteen times explained himself before other Bishops and the entire Catholics. If he was such a bad element the Church would have dealt with him. Isn't it?
This is really speaking to me - i am a young man in my 20s, and have struggled to reach my peers with the 'logical' type of evangelization. Thank you, Your Excellency, amazing talk as usual.
I'm findind so many answers for my questions in the doctrine of Cardinal Newman that I will put his immage in my personal oratory.... Thank you very much, Bishop Barron.
The amount of information contained in almost every sentence is just insane. This lecture is worth studying 📖 over and over again, and you could still find new things you didn't catch before. A masterpiece!
I agree that there can be great value in linking conscience with the voice of god. Most of my peers are agnostic at best, but they still know a sin when they see it, and they ALL recognise a universal system of morality that no one can escape. It makes perfect sense to argue that the one who created the "moral economy" would also whisper hints into you're ear to keep you on the right track. Thanks, and God bless, father. I love your work
Such a magnificient groundwork for the Real validity of the Messianic approach to New Evangelization (fullfilment in time the things that were already written hundreds and some thousands of years before Christ and His People, the Church)
When a great theologian like Saint Newman starts to philosophise alongside Bishop Barron, i am in great awe. I feel the least intellectual to even think of joining their group chat.
Sir, your lecture was of first class and will be forever stored in the great walls of Oxford. I know little on subject for which your passion found its relief. I wish to hear more of what the impact of Newman's idea has on your great understanding of Truth and our hearts ever desire for it. Slight quoting makes the colors of an argument bright but might overwhelm if over used
A new evangelization is necessary today in "formerly Christian lands". But very few bishops within those jurisdictions are willing and ready to accept that fact and to work towards its realization.
Exactly. Very few are going against the culture to preach the gospel, teach the catechism and evangelize. They are not willing to be hated by the world. That's what it takes and sacrifice. Jesus wasn't just a "nice guy" he told us we must repent and be ready for the Lord to return at any time. We want the full Gospel! Bishops should be giving it too us. If not, woe to them.
"A dark apologetic, grounded in a keen sense of our sin and helplessness" seems to me to be just the thing for a generation characterized by the belief that the world is hopeless, they themselves are worthless, and who wish desperately that they had not been brought into existence.
Wonderful talk. The analogy of absence of God in the creation of prove of himself reminded me Saint Augustine. The reason that we try to find him in creation is because is written in the consciousness the notion of immutable and eternal truth, because this is not found on creation a supreme being outside this realm is the answer.
A fascinating lecture. I only know Newman from the Apologia (and the "Autobiography in Miniature"); obviously I'll have to read the Grammar of Assent as well. Thanks!
It amazes me what a huge deal this is for you and how few people commented I was listening to it while trying to fall asleep I dreamed I met an extremely attractive artist who lived in a church and loved to argue with me like my significant other a Christian mystic who died last summer anyway the end of the dream I was contemplating ditching work and riding my motorcycle to Albuqurque It’s one of those events where you wonder if the angels are trying to save you from your old lady hood
@@michaelgetz6554 Why do you think that at every single Video of Bishop Robert Barron Channel a commenter appears with nothing whatsoever to comment on the video's theme or message but on *hell, tradition etc* with clearly manifested expressions of total disrespect for Bishop and his Ministry?
You're joking,right? This Bishop could've spoken greatly about Newman and the beautiful Catholic faith: instead just nonsense, uniteligable babble like he usually does.
I'll probably have to watch this ten more times before I can even pretend to get it, but around the 12 min mark I noticed something that seems like a recurring theme in the way Catholics think vs the way Protestants think. That is, when Catholics explain their theology, they tend to speak "upwards", as if their words can merely "point" to something "higher"; whereas, Protestants tend to break out their Greek dictionaries and basically try to diagram Biblical verses in order to "tie down" an exact meaning (this analogy probably won't make any sense to anyone but me, but I'd almost explain it like "Protestants use a fine toothed comb, and Catholics use a blow dryer".). I've definitely noticed this difference while attending Catholic Bible studies.
It is worth noting, whether Catholic or Protestant, that Scripture is a gift from our Father, indeed His love letter to us. A passion for its contents and the love it reveals is more than appropriate no matter one's tradition. I also think that deeper observation may yet reveal to you that many Catholic theologians are expert comb users, and many Protestant theologians quite artful with blow dryers.
Maybe, but...I think there's definitely a "distinctly Protestant" way of reading Scripture. If memory serves, it even has its own name, the "Historical/Grammatical Hermeneutic" (as opposed to the Catholic "Historical/Critical Hermeneutic"). Not to knock the Protestants, but I don't think that style of interpreting Scripture really even existed prior to Calvin. Also, FWIW, as cool as innovations are when it comes to planes, trains, & automobiles, they're a bit scary when found in religion...
I can tell just by the formulation of his formal remarks that His Excellency has been reading a lot of Newman lately. There was a ton of 19th century styling in his prose here. It comes off a bit highbrow, but then again he’s talking about one of the truly great intellectuals of that century, in what is perhaps the highest of all high brow institutions in the western world, so the tone is forgivable. This is especially the case in consideration of the fantastic tribute he does Newman here, and the rhythmically clear exposition of the ideas and ethic which made our newest saint a giant of Catholic history.
Does your excellency see any intellectual relationship between the role imagination plays for Francis de Sales with the path to real belief for Newman? Thank you for posting this talk!
I Love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ! I Love you Mommy Mary! I Love you Mommy Mary, i love you Mommy Mary!😇😇😇👼🔥☄️
Is Newman bad at writing or is there really such a large gap between modern writing and the writing of his time? Started reading his book after this and I often find sentences that I really cant parse at all..... For example this paragraph from Grammar of Assent, starting from after his quote of a poet I can't really follow or parse at all what is being said: Next I observe, that the same proposition may admit of both of these interpretations at once, having a notional sense as used by one man, and a real as used by another. Thus a schoolboy may perfectly apprehend, and construe with spirit, the poet’s words, “Dum Capitolium scandet cum tacitâ Virgine Pontifex;” he has seen steep hills, flights of steps, and processions; he knows what enforced silence is; also he knows all about the Pontifex Maximus, and the Vestal Virgins; he has an abstract hold upon every word of the description, yet without the words therefore bringing before him at all the living image which they would light up in the mind of a contemporary of the poet, who had seen the fact described, or of a modern historian who had duly informed himself in the religious phenomena, and by meditation had realized the Roman ceremonial, of the age of Augustus. Again, “Dulce et decorum est pro patriâ mori,” is a mere commonplace, a terse expression of abstractions in the mind of the poet himself, if Philippi is to be the index of his patriotism, whereas it would be the record of experiences, a sovereign dogma, a grand aspiration, inflaming the imagination, piercing the heart, of a Wallace or a Tell.
He along with John Stewart Mill is widely regarded as the best writer of prose England ever produced. I think it’s us who’ve got a poorer set of comprehension skills. The passage you quote is, like all Newmans words, hard to interpret out of context. It’s also incredibly overlayed with classical references that assume you have traveled to Rome and know both Virgil and Ovid’s poetry. That said… roughly he’s talking about the difference between notional apprehension and real apprehension which lie behind an act of either notional or real assent. He’s saying a school boy has notional knowledge of a scene described in Ovids fasti of the Vestal Virgins climbing the Capitoline Hill because he knows what hills look like and what ceremonies look like and can form a certain picture of what that scene might look like, ie a notional apprehension. By contrast the classicist of several decades standing who has seen the specific seven hills of Rome and has studied ancient ceremony thoroughly or the contemporary observer have a real apprehension of the scene
Is there something that your listening device can't adjust? It could depend on where one is listening from. If the listener indeed is *behind the clouds* anything in front of the clouds are *behind* for that person (only) till he/she moves out to elsewhere.
François Bournival - merci beaucoup! Normally I vex friends and family with obscure words. This time, however, the sturdy bishop took me to the mat in four syllables.
Prime Bach see 4 duel or 8* second Bach is 6 duel or 12" once 4 - 6 or = 2 or 4 and 4 are relationship for cross the boundary of each other's butt ? Cooperation or destruction ? So holly order is required cooperate" so only 2 Is say odd. And it's influence should be reduce from cross butt cooperative* and only this is only for ours Exercise of our Q. Solution in single highway for aall sub highway from one road for his her's real lover. So aask formula or disputes less ??
John Henry Newman, a modern Saulo of Tarsus!!! Hated and Persecuted the Lord Jesus!!! He didn't believe that the Holy Spirit dwells in the Church since 33AD!!!!
Only Zesus is a respective Glue in between two separate group existing say atoms and it's existence and relationships language of nearest and formation of a signal order for aall atoms. Is 2 atoms and nearest Glue of human beings in nearest heart vibration how harmony possible ? Is Love Glue* is anti of heat is presence heat and it's kind of atoms, under influence of love is only removal of old energy's effects licks discharge to once Love new reverse energy charging is his Love power Glu world. Is problem or holly welcome ??
Although I was able to pick out certain gems from your talk, your overuse of very uncommon, complicated words made me almost angry. In the future, please, eschew obfuscation. God bless.
tommie293 Friend, it was an academic presentation, aimed at a university audience. I’ve got hundreds of articles and videos pitched to a more popular audience.
"Fear not that thy life shall come to an end, but rather fear that it shall never have a beginning."
*-St John Henry Cardinal Newman*
Bishop Barron is a gift to humanity.
He will be canonized someday
Excellent lecture. Blessings to you.BISHOP R. BARRON. I listen to your lectures daily. I like saying the ROSARY WITH your guidance. Many Thanks. BLessings on you and your team.
@Bishop Barron, please pray for me for my strength in faith and to follow God's will as I discern the priesthood. I will be praying for you and your ministry. God bless. Andrew-UK
@@KEP1983 Everyone doesn't have the same desires. His desire, it seems, is to serve God in a special calling.
@@KEP1983 because a Catholic priest is necessary for the people of God to receive Jesus in the Eucharist - body, blood, soul and divinity.
@@KEP1983 I'm confused by your replies Keith, are you agreeing with orthodox Catholic church teaching or not? Jesus died for our sins, that is the Good News and he died for everyone, that is classic Catholic theology. We have to repent and accept Jesus as our savior and then continue to grow in holiness through his grace until our natural death and the final judgment.
@@michaelgetz6554 I haven't watched the entire video but all I know is Bishop Barron always preaches the Gospel and has brought many people to Christ, I find it hard to believe that his theology is not in alignment with the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church.
@@beautifulspirit7420
Don't believe these people. You can already see how they themselves are finding difficulty among themselves. This is going on and on and on with every Video of Bishop Barron. And it is the same persons. The Channel is used to it. None of them will ever have a single comment on the posted video's content or message. So you decide for yourself. Bishop Barron has umpteen times explained himself before other Bishops and the entire Catholics. If he was such a bad element the Church would have dealt with him. Isn't it?
The Catholic Church has 'known' for ever that reason is necessary but not sufficient. 'The heart has reasons that the mind will never know.'
This is awesome. Bishop Barron is exactly what my generation (millennials) needs.
The GREAT Bishop Robert Barron 🙏🏾
Thank you so much
St. John Henry Newman, St. Thomas Aquinas, G.K. Chesterton, Bishop Barron, please pray for us
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Have listened intently to every word, thank you for giving this lecture. God bless you too.
This is really speaking to me - i am a young man in my 20s, and have struggled to reach my peers with the 'logical' type of evangelization. Thank you, Your Excellency, amazing talk as usual.
God bless you!
Praise the Lord
It was fantastic to be in the audience. Never thought I'd be in a Bishop Barron video!
*St John Henry Newman, pray for us.*
Godbless bishop barron forever...hes a true prophet that we need.
An Apostle!
I'm findind so many answers for my questions in the doctrine of Cardinal Newman that I will put his immage in my personal oratory....
Thank you very much, Bishop Barron.
WONDERFUL! THANK YOU SO MUCH BISHOP BARRON!
The amount of information contained in almost every sentence is just insane. This lecture is worth studying 📖 over and over again, and you could still find new things you didn't catch before. A masterpiece!
Same goes for St John Henry Newman’s ‘Grammar’. I’ve been through it several times and never quite plumbed it’s depths
I agree that there can be great value in linking conscience with the voice of god. Most of my peers are agnostic at best, but they still know a sin when they see it, and they ALL recognise a universal system of morality that no one can escape. It makes perfect sense to argue that the one who created the "moral economy" would also whisper hints into you're ear to keep you on the right track. Thanks, and God bless, father. I love your work
I can’t wait to read St John Henry Newman’s book.
THANK TO GOD! THANK YOU MOMMY MARY!
Such a magnificient groundwork for the Real validity of the Messianic approach to New Evangelization (fullfilment in time the things that were already written hundreds and some thousands of years before Christ and His People, the Church)
Thanks Father Bhisop Barron
“Cor Ad Cor Loquitor” (“Heart Speaks to Heart”)
- My Confirmation Saint, St. John Henry Cardinal Newman
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ 🙏 Mother Mary Pray For Us 🙏Abba Father Bless us and we Adore You 🙏
When a great theologian like Saint Newman starts to philosophise alongside Bishop Barron, i am in great awe. I feel the least intellectual to even think of joining their group chat.
John Elmer Pechuela I consider myself very I smart when I hear Intellectuals like Bishop Barron speak.
Really appreciate this video.
Awesome great, Thank you to God! 😇😇😇
Thank you
Sir, your lecture was of first class and will be forever stored in the great walls of Oxford. I know little on subject for which your passion found its relief. I wish to hear more of what the impact of Newman's idea has on your great understanding of Truth and our hearts ever desire for it. Slight quoting makes the colors of an argument bright but might overwhelm if over used
Thank you.
A new evangelization is necessary today in "formerly Christian lands". But very few bishops within those jurisdictions are willing and ready to accept that fact and to work towards its realization.
Exactly. Very few are going against the culture to preach the gospel, teach the catechism and evangelize. They are not willing to be hated by the world. That's what it takes and sacrifice. Jesus wasn't just a "nice guy" he told us we must repent and be ready for the Lord to return at any time. We want the full Gospel! Bishops should be giving it too us. If not, woe to them.
@@beautifulspirit7420 Exodus 20:6
"A dark apologetic, grounded in a keen sense of our sin and helplessness" seems to me to be just the thing for a generation characterized by the belief that the world is hopeless, they themselves are worthless, and who wish desperately that they had not been brought into existence.
Wonderful talk. The analogy of absence of God in the creation of prove of himself reminded me Saint Augustine. The reason that we try to find him in creation is because is written in the consciousness the notion of immutable and eternal truth, because this is not found on creation a supreme being outside this realm is the answer.
A fascinating lecture. I only know Newman from the Apologia (and the "Autobiography in Miniature"); obviously I'll have to read the Grammar of Assent as well. Thanks!
It amazes me what a huge deal this is for you and how few people commented I was listening to it while trying to fall asleep
I dreamed I met an extremely attractive artist who lived in a church and loved to argue with me like my significant other a Christian mystic who died last summer
anyway the end of the dream I was contemplating ditching work and riding my motorcycle to Albuqurque
It’s one of those events where you wonder if the angels are trying to save you from your old lady hood
Lovely lecture You Edit:"r" Excellency and Thank You to both you and the team that helped set it up. Saint John Henry Cardinal Newman Ora Pro Nobis!
@@michaelgetz6554
Do you think Jesus will approve of your behaviour?
@@michaelgetz6554
Are there some race for *T-R-O-L-L-S?* And do you coach? Keen on lessons.
@@michaelgetz6554 Please tell me what is going on someone was pestering me about Flintstones characters.
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Why do you think that at every single Video of Bishop Robert Barron Channel a commenter appears with nothing whatsoever to comment on the video's theme or message but on *hell, tradition etc* with clearly manifested expressions of total disrespect for Bishop and his Ministry?
@@johnnotrealname8168
Someone in disguise?
A 'code' in your comment☆
Bishop Barron will be canonized one day.
Hard doubt
You're joking,right? This Bishop could've spoken greatly about Newman and the beautiful Catholic faith: instead just nonsense, uniteligable babble like he usually does.
@@andrewsheffield5657android!!!! Chaffy!!!
I'll probably have to watch this ten more times before I can even pretend to get it, but around the 12 min mark I noticed something that seems like a recurring theme in the way Catholics think vs the way Protestants think. That is, when Catholics explain their theology, they tend to speak "upwards", as if their words can merely "point" to something "higher"; whereas, Protestants tend to break out their Greek dictionaries and basically try to diagram Biblical verses in order to "tie down" an exact meaning (this analogy probably won't make any sense to anyone but me, but I'd almost explain it like "Protestants use a fine toothed comb, and Catholics use a blow dryer".). I've definitely noticed this difference while attending Catholic Bible studies.
I think you're right, especially among many of the popular "mega church" pastors.
It is worth noting, whether Catholic or Protestant, that Scripture is a gift from our Father, indeed His love letter to us. A passion for its contents and the love it reveals is more than appropriate no matter one's tradition.
I also think that deeper observation may yet reveal to you that many Catholic theologians are expert comb users, and many Protestant theologians quite artful with blow dryers.
Maybe, but...I think there's definitely a "distinctly Protestant" way of reading Scripture. If memory serves, it even has its own name, the "Historical/Grammatical Hermeneutic" (as opposed to the Catholic "Historical/Critical Hermeneutic"). Not to knock the Protestants, but I don't think that style of interpreting Scripture really even existed prior to Calvin. Also, FWIW, as cool as innovations are when it comes to planes, trains, & automobiles, they're a bit scary when found in religion...
Your answer "1 Timothy 3:15"!!!
@wayneanddonita3857 protestants read the menus, Catholics enjoy the meal!!!
I can tell just by the formulation of his formal remarks that His Excellency has been reading a lot of Newman lately. There was a ton of 19th century styling in his prose here. It comes off a bit highbrow, but then again he’s talking about one of the truly great intellectuals of that century, in what is perhaps the highest of all high brow institutions in the western world, so the tone is forgivable. This is especially the case in consideration of the fantastic tribute he does Newman here, and the rhythmically clear exposition of the ideas and ethic which made our newest saint a giant of Catholic history.
Amen Amen Amen 🙏✝️
I wish you had publicised this for St. Mary's before, it would have made my year to attend.
Thanks! Very good lecture. It seems to me that St. Thomas Aquinas' style is easier to follow than St. John Henry Newman's.
Bishop Barron can you release a transcript of this lecture?
Does your excellency see any intellectual relationship between the role imagination plays for Francis de Sales with the path to real belief for Newman? Thank you for posting this talk!
Thanks ⚘I like short video
Nice
I rather read Newman prayers verses and devotions
Jesus Christ 🙏
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Is Bishop Barron okay? His voice sounds lower than usual
I Love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ, i love you Jesús Christ! I Love you Mommy Mary! I Love you Mommy Mary, i love you Mommy Mary!😇😇😇👼🔥☄️
Why is his voice down tuned like that? Is he trying to scare me?
Is Newman bad at writing or is there really such a large gap between modern writing and the writing of his time? Started reading his book after this and I often find sentences that I really cant parse at all..... For example this paragraph from Grammar of Assent, starting from after his quote of a poet I can't really follow or parse at all what is being said:
Next I observe, that the same proposition may admit of both of these interpretations at once, having a notional sense as used by one man, and a real as used by another. Thus a schoolboy may perfectly apprehend, and construe with spirit, the poet’s words, “Dum Capitolium scandet cum tacitâ Virgine Pontifex;” he has seen steep hills, flights of steps, and processions; he knows what enforced silence is; also he knows all about the Pontifex Maximus, and the Vestal Virgins; he has an abstract hold upon every word of the description, yet without the words therefore bringing before him at all the living image which they would light up in the mind of a contemporary of the poet, who had seen the fact described, or of a modern historian who had duly informed himself in the religious phenomena, and by meditation had realized the Roman ceremonial, of the age of Augustus. Again, “Dulce et decorum est pro patriâ mori,” is a mere commonplace, a terse expression of abstractions in the mind of the poet himself, if Philippi is to be the index of his patriotism, whereas it would be the record of experiences, a sovereign dogma, a grand aspiration, inflaming the imagination, piercing the heart, of a Wallace or a Tell.
He along with John Stewart Mill is widely regarded as the best writer of prose England ever produced. I think it’s us who’ve got a poorer set of comprehension skills.
The passage you quote is, like all Newmans words, hard to interpret out of context. It’s also incredibly overlayed with classical references that assume you have traveled to Rome and know both Virgil and Ovid’s poetry. That said… roughly he’s talking about the difference between notional apprehension and real apprehension which lie behind an act of either notional or real assent. He’s saying a school boy has notional knowledge of a scene described in Ovids fasti of the Vestal Virgins climbing the Capitoline Hill because he knows what hills look like and what ceremonies look like and can form a certain picture of what that scene might look like, ie a notional apprehension. By contrast the classicist of several decades standing who has seen the specific seven hills of Rome and has studied ancient ceremony thoroughly or the contemporary observer have a real apprehension of the scene
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Why is Bishop Barron's voice sound so dark, he seemed like a voice behind the clouds
Is there something that your listening device can't adjust?
It could depend on where one is listening from. If the listener indeed is *behind the clouds* anything in front of the clouds are *behind* for that person (only) till he/she moves out to elsewhere.
It's probably the acoustics of the building.
8:07 - a propahoodic?
77thTrombone Propaedeutic; course or instruction providing preparatory or introductory teaching.
François Bournival - merci beaucoup! Normally I vex friends and family with obscure words.
This time, however, the sturdy bishop took me to the mat in four syllables.
16:31...!
30:20
Prime Bach see 4 duel or 8* second Bach is 6 duel or 12" once 4 - 6 or = 2 or 4 and 4 are relationship for cross the boundary of each other's butt ? Cooperation or destruction ? So holly order is required cooperate" so only 2 Is say odd. And it's influence should be reduce from cross butt cooperative* and only this is only for ours Exercise of our Q. Solution in single highway for aall sub highway from one road for his her's real lover. So aask formula or disputes less ??
Only to me his voice seems strange? ...
I thought so too
It's probably the acoustics of the building.
14:47
I love you, but I always understand you language. I really try hard to listen and understand but it simply doesn't land.
John Henry Newman, a modern Saulo of Tarsus!!! Hated and Persecuted the Lord Jesus!!! He didn't believe that the Holy Spirit dwells in the Church since 33AD!!!!
Only Zesus is a respective Glue in between two separate group existing say atoms and it's existence and relationships language of nearest and formation of a signal order for aall atoms. Is 2 atoms and nearest Glue of human beings in nearest heart vibration how harmony possible ? Is Love Glue* is anti of heat is presence heat and it's kind of atoms, under influence of love is only removal of old energy's effects licks discharge to once Love new reverse energy charging is his Love power Glu world. Is problem or holly welcome ??
Huh?
Although I was able to pick out certain gems from your talk,
your overuse of very uncommon, complicated words made me almost angry. In the
future, please, eschew obfuscation. God bless.
tommie293 Friend, it was an academic presentation, aimed at a university audience. I’ve got hundreds of articles and videos pitched to a more popular audience.
Thank you Excellency.
Bishop Robert Barron This lecture showed me how intelligent philosopher that Newman is. Thank you Bishop!
A real treat to listen to this lecture!