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I have fat wide feet and I get the 2E . My feet feel amazing . I can’t really shop at the outlets cuz they usually just have shoes for narrow footed ppl and skinnier folk. Runners High in LBC, Ca has a fit station where they measure ur arch and and stress points while walking . The Arahi 5 was what I landed on. Such an amazing pick up. Definitely the most expensive shoe I’ve purchased. $130 . Amazing pick up
thank you so much for making these videos . extremely helpful when you explain if they are good for overpronation. after watching your videos I will be getting both the Gaviota 3 and NB Fresh Foam 860v11 for my extreme flat feet and overpronation . THANK YOU once again
Steve, great overview as always. Just got the new Arahi 5, may try the Gaviota..If so will order thru you!! I made the switch from Brooks Adrenaline to Hoka after my brother recommended. Glad I did.
Great overview of both. We really enjoyed the Arahi 5, one of our favorite recent updates. Besides the upper and outsole update, did they change the midsole in anyway of the Gaviota 3?
Thank you for your excellent videos! As someone brand new to Hokas, I wish the company’s website would make it easier to understand the differences between their shoe lines as well and as clearly as you do!
the gaviota 3 felt firmer to me than the arahi. probably due to a higher proportion of high density foam in the gaviota versus the arahi. I'm sticking with arahi, bondi and stinson. so in my opinion the gaviota might be for those wanting a firmer solution. or who have more extreme pronation (?) or are, as mentioned, quite hefty.
hokas are my goto right now. for many aspects (if not all) it ticks all my boxes. i have a 4e bondi 7. and finally it feels like the perfect shoe size for me. i have some pronation on the right ankle...so it will be interesting to try the arahi/gaviotas. interesting to me but the arahi 5 feels better to me than the cliftons.....so maybe its just a better platform for me. haven't been able to try gaviotas yet.
i got the arahi 5, and it is very good. i switch in currex high arch insoles. very comfy and stable shoe. the J frame idea actually works. i have the 2E width to give my slightly wider right foot more toe room. while the elf heel counter makes it easy to get the shoe on. it is possibly a potential heel slippage aspect. but i have found with a firm lace tiedown that i don't experience heel slippage. i would make the heel counter thing a bit more regular in design if it was me.
Hi, thank you for the review. I am a nurse who works 12 hour shifts. My feet and back are always sore after a shift. I am interested in purchasing HOKA’s Gravito for a change from my ACSICS GT 2000-7. I am not impressed with my ascics at all. I have heard nothing but positive things about HOKA. I don’t use my current shoes for running, just work. I am flat footed, and partially tore my Achilles’ tendon last summer. I definitely need comfort and lots of cushioning. Would you recommend Hoka Gravito or something else in Hoka or different Brand? Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Thank you! The Gaviota would be most similar to Brooks Ariel/Beat as they are both max cushion max stability shoes. Thye both provide a firm but heavily cushioned ride and are not super flexible shoes. The Arahi is a lighter, softer, slightly less stable option.
How does the gaviota 3 compare with Bondi or clifton 7/8 version's? Softness and cusion points to be specific? I suffer from IT band issues so which would you recommend?
Hi There!Thank you for the review.I always listen to you, befor bying a new shoe. I had a Bondi 7, but I sent it back, because, it was to soft for me.Is the Gaviota as soft as well as the Bondi?One of my feet was enjured and it needs stability, the other one not really...this why I am wondering.Thank you for your help.🙏
Bought the Arahi 5 recently due to the Gaviota was unavailable. Big mistake. IMO, the Arahi 5 is junk, also purchased the Clifton 6 in the past, not a good decision. Gaviota has been like THE shoe for me. Good review
I noticed Hoka Bondi has a SR version. The slip resistance is a great option for work but it seems like there aren’t any widths available in all black which is a must for work. Does the Gaviota 3 have more arch support than the Bondi 7? I would benefit from more arch support than pronation support.
Yes, the J-Frame is very similar in structure to the guide rails that are on the Paradigms. If you are interested in lighter stability I'd recommend trying the Arahi over the Gaviota.
Great review! I’m on my 3rd pair of Gaviota 2s, the treads always seem to wear first on the outside edge. Does that mean I’m underpronating? Can you recommend a Hoka that could help? Always notice that when my Gaviota’s get worn my hips start hurting... Thx in advance
Yes, if you are wearing the shoes out on the outside of the shoe you are underpronating. The Gaviota is actually the best Hoka for someone that is underpronating.
anyone know where i can buy Hoka Gaviota 3? since i have flat feet, motion control and wide rigid i found the 3 is the only one that i can feel comfortable after digging in runrepeat to identify my feet but i can't find an online store to buy with my size.
Your videos are fantastic! I am a moderate pronator and have always worn the SAME stability shoe: Adidas Supernova/Boost. Now I need a wider toe box due to a bunion. HOKA has been recommended - in particular, the Gaviota. My long runs are 15km max, so I don't think I need the MAX cushioning of the Gav. I'm considering the Arahi 5 as it's for mild pronation and I'm thinking the wider option (D?) would take care of the bunion? Do you think the Arahi will provide as much stability as my old Adidas? I only run on trails - do you think the Arahi 5's will work for this terrain? (Once I switched to ASICS trail runners & had knee probs, so my physio suggested going back to the Adidas.) Do you ship to Canada? :-)
I usually wear New Balance. I need good stability. There is one other model of Hoka I have an interest in. The Speedgoat caught my eye a while back. However, it appears as if the Gaviota 3 blows that one away. Your opinion please?
I have been running in the Brooks Adrenaline GTS for years (over-pronator with borderline narrow feet and flat feet, bunion on my right foot and mild planter fasciitis right foot). I run a 5k on the road 4 times per week. I am looking to try something different. I tried the Brooks Glycerin GTS 19. Maybe too much cushioning and not as much support as the Adrenaline GTS. Would the Hoka Arahi 5 be a good option?
The Arahi sounds like a good option for you, it is a lighter shoe than either the Adrenaline pr Glycerin GTS. However, Hokas are cut a bit wider than Brooks.
@@RunMoore Since the Hoka is cut wider than the Brooks and I have narrow feet, does it make sense to size down a half size? As long as there is enough room in the front of course.
@@Adamas11 The Hoka Arahi does run a little long so a 10 in Brooks would likely wear a 9.5 in Hoka. Generally, though, we recommend against sizing down for width unless there is a significant difference in length as well, like in this case.
For back problems, something with a lot of cushion, support, and a slightly lower heel-to-toe drop is usually the way to go. I would recommend the Hoka Gaviota 4.
Great reviews! I overpronate and was recommended to check out both of these shoes. I’m 6’4” 225lb and I just jog ~12 miles / week. Not really trying to bust out fast times or anything, just staying healthy, maybe a 10k in my future. Which of these two would you recommend?
Nice review. I have a question / confusion 🙋♂️ Are hoka Goviota 3 shoes made wider by the Hoka company as compared to their other versions of Hoka shoes such as Bondi , Clifton and others?
I have been running in Bondi 7s since developing plantar fasciitis pain. Doc advised Moving to Bondi. I have noticed the tread wear pattern is on the outside of the sole from heel to mid foot and more laterally mid foot to forefoot. I am a heel striker, big guy, low mileage. Should I switch to the Gaviota for more stability or stay with the Bondi?
If the midfoot is wearing in the middle of the shoe, stocking with the neutral Bondi is probably the way to go. Only switch to the Gaviota if you notice the midfoot is wearing heavily on the inside of your foot.
They are there! might just be a bit tricky to find - you can always check the description in the video Gaviota 3 shop.letsrunmoore.com/product/800820/Hoka/M-GAVIOTA-3 Arabic 5 shop.letsrunmoore.com/product/800854/Hoka/M-Hoka-Arahi-5-
Neither of the shoes reviewed in this video would be comparable to the Pegasus or Vomero, as both of those Nike models are neutral trainers and these Hoka models are stability shoes. The closest Hoka equivalent to light neutral trainers would be the Clifton or Rincon.
Hi there! Thanks for doing this review! I'm always so torn with choosing Hokas becuase of the price tag so I was wondering if you'd be able to help me out... I ran in the Hoka Gaviota 2 for about 500k, loved the support and cushioning but wore the inner heel/ankle down and were quite heavy! I then changed totally to the NB FuelCell Prism much much lighter and faster but obviously much less support and after 250km I've already worn down alot of the cushioning and bounce in them but, I love the speed and lightweight. As a compromise between better cushioning than the NB FuelCell and less weight than the Gaviota, what would you suggest? The Arahi? Or is the new Gaviota a bit lighter? Thank you in advance!
Have you tried the NB 860 v11’s? Slightly heavier than the Prism obviously but super comfortable, the upper is super soft and I think has the same drop (8mm) as the Prism.
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This really helped me out, i always thought that stability shoes are only used for overpronation.
I have fat wide feet and I get the 2E . My feet feel amazing . I can’t really shop at the outlets cuz they usually just have shoes for narrow footed ppl and skinnier folk. Runners High in LBC, Ca has a fit station where they measure ur arch and and stress points while walking . The Arahi 5 was what I landed on. Such an amazing pick up. Definitely the most expensive shoe I’ve purchased. $130 . Amazing pick up
thank you so much for making these videos . extremely helpful when you explain if they are good for overpronation. after watching your videos I will be getting both the Gaviota 3 and NB Fresh Foam 860v11 for my extreme flat feet and overpronation . THANK YOU once again
Great and thorough review, Steve also took the time to help me through 2-3 shoes for my rotation over the phone. Very succinct and helpful.
Steve, great overview as always. Just got the new Arahi 5, may try the Gaviota..If so will order thru you!! I made the switch from Brooks Adrenaline to Hoka after my brother recommended. Glad I did.
Great overview of both. We really enjoyed the Arahi 5, one of our favorite recent updates. Besides the upper and outsole update, did they change the midsole in anyway of the Gaviota 3?
The midsole on the Gaviota 3 stayed pretty much the same.
Another great review! Love Hokas and am happy that they continue to evolve and update their lines. Wonderfully clear and concise presentation.
Really helpful. Thanks for taking the time to review these for us. Lots of detail I am happy knowing.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your excellent videos! As someone brand new to Hokas, I wish the company’s website would make it easier to understand the differences between their shoe lines as well and as clearly as you do!
Heads up. Yep, it's Onay Onay... But it's also Bond Eye....!!!!
Thanks for explaining the difference and relation between hoka shoes
the gaviota 3 felt firmer to me than the arahi. probably due to a higher proportion of high density foam in the gaviota versus the arahi. I'm sticking with arahi, bondi and stinson. so in my opinion the gaviota might be for those wanting a firmer solution. or who have more extreme pronation (?) or are, as mentioned, quite hefty.
I always like your reviews bud. I’m running on a GTS 20 right now but I’m interested in a second pair of stability shoes in the future. 🇺🇸🏃♂️👍
Thanks for checking out the channel, when you are in the market for another shoe definitely check out the Arahi 5.
This really helped me decide between the two shoes. Thanks so much!
You are looking really good - love the cap & of course you helpful take on all shoes!
Could you please do comparison between the new brooks adrenaline, new hoka arahi, and new gaviota ?
hokas are my goto right now. for many aspects (if not all) it ticks all my boxes. i have a 4e bondi 7. and finally it feels like the perfect shoe size for me. i have some pronation on the right ankle...so it will be interesting to try the arahi/gaviotas. interesting to me but the arahi 5 feels better to me than the cliftons.....so maybe its just a better platform for me. haven't been able to try gaviotas yet.
i got the arahi 5, and it is very good. i switch in currex high arch insoles. very comfy and stable shoe. the J frame idea actually works. i have the 2E width to give my slightly wider right foot more toe room. while the elf heel counter makes it easy to get the shoe on. it is possibly a potential heel slippage aspect. but i have found with a firm lace tiedown that i don't experience heel slippage. i would make the heel counter thing a bit more regular in design if it was me.
Hi, thank you for the review. I am a nurse who works 12 hour shifts. My feet and back are always sore after a shift. I am interested in purchasing HOKA’s Gravito for a change from my ACSICS GT 2000-7. I am not impressed with my ascics at all. I have heard nothing but positive things about HOKA. I don’t use my current shoes for running, just work. I am flat footed, and partially tore my Achilles’ tendon last summer. I definitely need comfort and lots of cushioning. Would you recommend Hoka Gravito or something else in Hoka or different Brand? Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Great content! I love how you reference other brands. What do you think between these two and Brooks Ariel/Beast? Thx!
Thank you! The Gaviota would be most similar to Brooks Ariel/Beat as they are both max cushion max stability shoes. Thye both provide a firm but heavily cushioned ride and are not super flexible shoes. The Arahi is a lighter, softer, slightly less stable option.
How does the gaviota 3 compare with Bondi or clifton 7/8 version's? Softness and cusion points to be specific? I suffer from IT band issues so which would you recommend?
Hi There!Thank you for the review.I always listen to you, befor bying a new shoe.
I had a Bondi 7, but I sent it back, because, it was to soft for me.Is the Gaviota as soft as well as the Bondi?One of my feet was enjured and it needs stability, the other one not really...this why I am wondering.Thank you for your help.🙏
Not me thinking this was a new store in Moore Oklahoma
Bought the Arahi 5 recently due to the Gaviota was unavailable. Big mistake. IMO, the Arahi 5 is junk, also purchased the Clifton 6 in the past, not a good decision. Gaviota has been like THE shoe for me. Good review
If you are a fan of the Gaviota it makes sense that neither the Arahi nor Clifton would have the amount of stability and support that you need.
I noticed Hoka Bondi has a SR version. The slip resistance is a great option for work but it seems like there aren’t any widths available in all black which is a must for work. Does the Gaviota 3 have more arch support than the Bondi 7? I would benefit from more arch support than pronation support.
Yes, the Gaviota 3 has more arch support than the Bondi 7.
Would you say the J Frame acts a little like guide rails? I have the Altra Paradigm 5 and have really enjoyed the light stability in that shoe.
Yes, the J-Frame is very similar in structure to the guide rails that are on the Paradigms. If you are interested in lighter stability I'd recommend trying the Arahi over the Gaviota.
Is there a trail shoe like the Arahi? I am looking everywhere!
Great review! I’m on my 3rd pair of Gaviota 2s, the treads always seem to wear first on the outside edge. Does that mean I’m underpronating? Can you recommend a Hoka that could help? Always notice that when my Gaviota’s get worn my hips start hurting... Thx in advance
Yes, if you are wearing the shoes out on the outside of the shoe you are underpronating. The Gaviota is actually the best Hoka for someone that is underpronating.
anyone know where i can buy Hoka Gaviota 3? since i have flat feet, motion control and wide rigid i found the 3 is the only one that i can feel comfortable after digging in runrepeat to identify my feet but i can't find an online store to buy with my size.
Your videos are fantastic! I am a moderate pronator and have always worn the SAME stability shoe: Adidas Supernova/Boost. Now I need a wider toe box due to a bunion. HOKA has been recommended - in particular, the Gaviota. My long runs are 15km max, so I don't think I need the MAX cushioning of the Gav. I'm considering the Arahi 5 as it's for mild pronation and I'm thinking the wider option (D?) would take care of the bunion? Do you think the Arahi will provide as much stability as my old Adidas? I only run on trails - do you think the Arahi 5's will work for this terrain? (Once I switched to ASICS trail runners & had knee probs, so my physio suggested going back to the Adidas.) Do you ship to Canada? :-)
Need to pickup both look like great upgrades
I usually wear New Balance. I need good stability. There is one other model of Hoka I have an interest in. The Speedgoat caught my eye a while back. However, it appears as if the Gaviota 3 blows that one away. Your opinion please?
I would definitely suggest the Gaviota 3. You won't get nearly as much support from the Speedgoat.
@@RunMoore Thank you. I placed an order with you for the Gaviota 3 and am anxiously awaiting their arrival.
@@rodneybill1221 Would love to hear the update!
@@MrBradHendrickson Most comfortable athletic shoe I have ever worn in my almost 58 years on earth.
Hi and thank you I have hoka one one bondi 7 love it. Do recommend stay with it or is there a better shoe Robert
If it has been comfortable and working for you then it is a good fit!
Gaviota 3 👍💪💪
Been hearing some reports about durability issues with the Arahi’s heel cup. Have y’all heard anything about that?
No, we haven't heard that complaint. On our end, the new Arahi has been very well recieved.
So the Arahi 4 seems to run more narrow compared to the 5?
No, the 4 was slightly wider than the 5 is.
I have been running in the Brooks Adrenaline GTS for years (over-pronator with borderline narrow feet and flat feet, bunion on my right foot and mild planter fasciitis right foot). I run a 5k on the road 4 times per week. I am looking to try something different. I tried the Brooks Glycerin GTS 19. Maybe too much cushioning and not as much support as the Adrenaline GTS. Would the Hoka Arahi 5 be a good option?
The Arahi sounds like a good option for you, it is a lighter shoe than either the Adrenaline pr Glycerin GTS. However, Hokas are cut a bit wider than Brooks.
@@RunMoore Since the Hoka is cut wider than the Brooks and I have narrow feet, does it make sense to size down a half size? As long as there is enough room in the front of course.
@@Adamas11 The Hoka Arahi does run a little long so a 10 in Brooks would likely wear a 9.5 in Hoka. Generally, though, we recommend against sizing down for width unless there is a significant difference in length as well, like in this case.
What would you recommend for someone with Spondylolisthesis? 🤓
For back problems, something with a lot of cushion, support, and a slightly lower heel-to-toe drop is usually the way to go. I would recommend the Hoka Gaviota 4.
I’m from Maryland too
Are you saying the Arahi 5 is good for supinators?
Compared to the Arahi 4, the 5 is much more suitable for someone who supinates due to the stability J frame extending on the outside of the heel.
Great reviews!
I overpronate and was recommended to check out both of these shoes. I’m 6’4” 225lb and I just jog ~12 miles / week. Not really trying to bust out fast times or anything, just staying healthy, maybe a 10k in my future. Which of these two would you recommend?
I'm in the same situation, what did you end up getting and how did you like it? Would really help me!
@@Kwantumzz after trying many pairs on I went with Brooks Glycerin GTS. Absolutely love them.
Nice review. I have a question / confusion 🙋♂️ Are hoka Goviota 3 shoes made wider by the Hoka company as compared to their other versions of Hoka shoes such as Bondi , Clifton and others?
The Gaviota's toebox has a similar fit to that of the Bondi and Clifton. They also make a wide version of the Gaviota.
I have been running in Bondi 7s since developing plantar fasciitis pain. Doc advised Moving to Bondi. I have noticed the tread wear pattern is on the outside of the sole from heel to mid foot and more laterally mid foot to forefoot. I am a heel striker, big guy, low mileage. Should I switch to the Gaviota for more stability or stay with the Bondi?
If the midfoot is wearing in the middle of the shoe, stocking with the neutral Bondi is probably the way to go. Only switch to the Gaviota if you notice the midfoot is wearing heavily on the inside of your foot.
Just an FYI - I just looked on your website and neither of these shoes are listed...
They are there! might just be a bit tricky to find - you can always check the description in the video
Gaviota 3 shop.letsrunmoore.com/product/800820/Hoka/M-GAVIOTA-3
Arabic 5 shop.letsrunmoore.com/product/800854/Hoka/M-Hoka-Arahi-5-
What's the weight of them please?
The Gaviota 3 is 11.30 ounces, and the Arahi 5 is 9.70 ounces.
What would be equivalent to the nike pegasus or the nike vomero?
Neither of the shoes reviewed in this video would be comparable to the Pegasus or Vomero, as both of those Nike models are neutral trainers and these Hoka models are stability shoes. The closest Hoka equivalent to light neutral trainers would be the Clifton or Rincon.
i have the asics 27 but i feel heavy
Hi there! Thanks for doing this review! I'm always so torn with choosing Hokas becuase of the price tag so I was wondering if you'd be able to help me out... I ran in the Hoka Gaviota 2 for about 500k, loved the support and cushioning but wore the inner heel/ankle down and were quite heavy! I then changed totally to the NB FuelCell Prism much much lighter and faster but obviously much less support and after 250km I've already worn down alot of the cushioning and bounce in them but, I love the speed and lightweight. As a compromise between better cushioning than the NB FuelCell and less weight than the Gaviota, what would you suggest? The Arahi? Or is the new Gaviota a bit lighter? Thank you in advance!
Have you tried the NB 860 v11’s? Slightly heavier than the Prism obviously but super comfortable, the upper is super soft and I think has the same drop (8mm) as the Prism.
would you recommend 1/2 size up from normal size i.e 10.5 -11?
The Gaviota 3 runs true to size, so I would go with the 11. The Arahi 5 runs a little big so I would go with the 10.5
@@RunMoore love your reviews. Thank you.
how heavy is gavotta 3 woman, compare to arahi
The Gaviota is 9.34oz (265g) & the Arahi is 7.79oz (221g).
The Gaviota 2 EE was extra wide in the toe box but still a standard width in the midfoot and heel. Does the Gaviota 3 EE retain those features?
I think the width of the Gaviota 3 is more consistent throughout the whole shoe.
@@RunMoore thanks.