Yes, but keep in mind that there was two generations of console between MGS1 and MGS4, and probably several orders of magnitude between the budget of the two games. Also it's 10 years not 7 years.
@@shinji906 mgs1 was released in 98 and the first trailors for mgs4 were released in 2005....so that's 7 years worth of technology. I'm not talking about when mgs4 was released to public I'm talking about when the graphical capabilities were possible.
@@bergonath8851 I don't know where your getting your info from but the TGS 2005 mgs4 trailer was from the new ps3 based engine. when I mentioned 1998 for MGS1 that was more vague, fair enough, the 1996 trailer was using pre renders anyway, the first in engine footage was from 1997 so your tryna argue with me over 1 year... my point still stands. The graphics improved vastly over those few years during the turn of the century.
I wish MGS4 had more sneaking levels with humans. It’s one of the rare stealth games where you can sneak in an environment where your opponents are at war with another faction
The environments in Afghanistan are completely different depending on where your at and I had a problem with it being so hollow and devoid of life. Imagine sneaking into a local city and sneaking in with patrols around the place and locals giving patrols about your location if you look suspicious.
I liked MGS V, but i feel like it just wasn't... finished.. yknow? Like compared to MGS 3 (wit the pillS) and MGS4 i don't have cool shit like sneaking through a Mujajadheen/Soviet warzone while Quiet snipes from a derelict tower, watching the competing Mercenaries do crazy stuff. And while i did like feeling like a one man army super spy sneaking through a huge airport and crap, i wish there was just.. a bit more yknow?
Agreed. i call MGS4 a beautiful bonsai tree that was killed with over-pruning. the really good shit is so broken up, you never really can get a big satisfying chunk of gameplay out of it. I want multi-hour sessions on battlefields, running into problems, solving them, sneaking, surviving. MGSV is the opposite issue. There's hundreds of hours of gameplay you can drop in and out of, literally, at almost any area in the game. But nothing is really happening because it's just 1 faction of NPCs. It's got good sneaking and action but Kojima decided to import his HR dept simulator from peace walker so you have to worry about that shit now.
That's because this gen was so weak, full of "cinematic expiriences", "remasters" and "remakes". Still I wouldn't mind playing MGS 4 in 1080p, Octocamo is a cool feature and I don't think it was implemented in any other game in such a neat way, too bad Sony and Konami don't feel that way.
@Danny Chesney It's not certain, but Sony has been talking about backwards compatibility for ps5, so maybe you might not need a remaster - just a new console :D I will definitely play it again, if that's the case.
How the heck did they actually get an iPod in the game? To answer my own question: "According to MGS4 Integral Podcast #1, the reason for the iPod's inclusion in Metal Gear Solid 4 was because the members of Kojima Productions were fans of Apple products, and they got permission from Apple to use it in-game after showing them a short demonstration video. " Bonus facts: "The inclusion of the iPod in the game was heavily criticized as a distracting promotion. However, it is not unusual for military personnel to use iPods in combat. In particular, Bullet Flight, an iPod Touch application that makes ballistic calculations, is used by real world U.S. snipers." - Metal Gear Fandom
Amazing comment! I'd also venture a guess and say that the iPod's inclusion has implications for the 'SOP' System concept. The advent of digital music via Apple's devices put everyone onto a single 'system' culturally. The iPod, iTunes et al provided a filter to block painful realities by way of a potentially endless stream of emotional data (in the form of music). Apple no longer reigns over the realm of music like it did back in 2008, having ceded ground to sites like Spotify and even UA-cam in the Streaming Age. It's debatably also a nod to the fact that, like the PS3, Apple technology often uses closed architecture systems web.stanford.edu/dept/SUL/sites/mac/primary/docs/open.html
@@FuturasoundProductions Thanks, and also thank you for a enlightening video about mgs4, with a perspective and inclusion of hardware and worldview at that time that I haven't seen before. Regarding the iPod, yeah I definitely think that fits the themes on display and again makes sense at that point in time. It's insane how much there is in these games, I' bet even Dirk Gently would have trouble comprehending Kojima's interconnectedness of all things.
@@FuturasoundProductions That is quite a convoluted comment and pointless link. The iPod, and the numerous other Apple products included in the game, were only done so because the developers were fans of the industrial design and reached out to Apple - as Filip already cited. It is quite rare for a company to license their product's likeness into media. This has nothing do with putting people into a "system", or the music distribution industry. This is about quality work being appreciated.
It never came off as an overt advertisement. Snake never talked about how cool it was to have an iPod- new version comes out and he says "kept me waiting huh?" It was packed with mgs tracks and was very passive. Potentially you may not even realize you have it on a first play. Perfect inclusion of a real world product and as others have pointed out, it's not uncommon in the military irl
True. Despite being a decade old the HUD and story still feel refreshingly new aswell as the ever changing drebin shop and random codec calls that we sometimes forget about. And besides that you could even get the Easter egg weapons
i just wish the MGO community won't have been that toxic as i remember (this was the one reason beside hackers, that they shut down the MGO servers after only some years)
Honestly its my favourite game in the series. Every single thing feels "next gen" even though it's 12 years old. It rivals AAA games nowadays and is my bar for stealth games.
@@edgymcmemes1718 i totally agree! when it came to MGO, everthing was so realistic, that i was not sure if it was taken from "real footage" or all pure binary codes behind the colors hahaha. sadly i was only abled to play it 2 hours per week. PS. the good thing is, it runs even better on RPCS3 (ps3 emulator on PC) as on PS3 itself. steady 60fps and possibility of Anti-Aliasing. etc
@@KFPSplayer I loved MGS4's MGO. Playing as Snake in multi was one my most favorite thing ever, almost as fun as... Messing around with the Mark III lol. What was great about this multi is that you HAD to play as a real squad to be effective. If you found players who wanted to play as a team instead of going Rambo, you were pretty much invincible. And everyone could play the way they wanted to. Some were more into CQC, others into precision weapons, others into explosives or handguns... I think one of the mistakes they made were the DLCs for MGO which in my opinion were underwhelming and should've been free to play. I got my current nickname from MGO and I've kept it ever since!
This makes me appreciate mgs games more and I didn’t think that was possible because of the adoration I already had for these games. RIP to my favorite video game series....
if you did some research some of the MG Developer Vets still on Konami like i heard 60% of them mostly the one who follow Kojima is the developer of MGSV
I bought the MGS4 PS3 bundle. I was so overjoyed to bring it home and play this. It blew my mind back in 2008. I can't believe it's been 12 years since then.
@Stuart Ramirez Yeah, I never got to play the other MGS games, and I have 4, but it was a lackadasical experience at the time without understanding certain things going in. I never got far in it, but now I think I have enough understanding of the game, and what it was going for to enjoy it, as well as finish it. Funny how you can have such a vastly different experience with a game, just by knowing how it is really intended to be played. One guy was saying he didn't like Farcry4, but liked 5. I talked him into playing 4, and going in knowing it is actually more a precise shooter then just empty this amount of bullets anywhere, and get the same result. Knowing what you're getting into is really helpful with the overall experience. He gave it a second chance due to understanding that feedback wasn't from the sound, like in 5 how it goes thunk, but rather how the enemies react to the impact of the bullets.
It upsets me that too many creators get so dismissive about this game and the work put into it. This should have set a bar to follow, but instead people turn their heads away from it.
@Starscream91 I disagree. MGS:V is truly the worst one in the main series. MGS4 wasnt as ''open'' as MGS3, but it was still an amazing game, especially when entering shadow moses again. It was the most movie like MGS for a reason. The ending was done beautifully, and i believe i never skipped those cutscenes.
@Starscream91 How can you put philosophical and MGS:V into the same sentence? MGS:V WAS the game that felt like an MGS Fanfiction gone wrong. Volgin re-appearing as a flame dude because of the fake Snakes hatred? A bad plot twist of some random medic in a helicopter being a replacement for boss? Sounds like a 15yr old has written that. MGS4 gave us a clash between the 2 brothers, a conclusion to all their fights, that they were made by men, only to fight. The entire storyline of the patriots was ended, a group that wanted to control the world, its wars and everything by nanomashines and technology. It gave us an idea of how that system was abused to control the entire world, so that nobody could decide for himself. They chose how war plays out, like puppets. To say this storyline is a fanfiction, and MGS:Vs bad monologue about tongues, languages and bad plots is an insult.
MGS 4 is a sequel of a game that didn't need it and was a complete story, that and hours of cutscenes that disrupt gameplay (also Paris escort chapter, ugh). People have every right and reason in the book to be dismissive of it.
@@Bodwaizer Uhh dude, incase you forgot, Ocelot/Liquid was still alive in MGS2 and was capturing Ray. It didnt need a sequel? How? Would you have ended it on MGS2 story wise and just said ''Well liquid is off with Ray and does absolutely nothing''? Of course it needed a sequel, and i dont understand the hate about the cutscenes especially, that was always how Metal Gear was.
Thank you for reminding me why I love this game so much, and why it is so ahead of its time, the amount of work and effort put into this game is mind blowing, hats off to kojima and the team
Yea but lets alsk konami to make a mod to drive a tank and also to shoot with it. Or to fly a helicopter if theese are in the game in then its the best game ever.
@@mvscowner i mean that i wish to have a mod like to drive a tank in mgs4 so would be that possible something? If i can drive a tank in mgs4 online or offline then that would be the best game forever.
21:01 That is not actual destruction physics. It's pre-made destruction animations most likely. The staircase gets destroyed in the exact same manner every single time. Same goes for exploding vans and stuff - it's probably just a model swap covered by the explosion effects.
yeah. as a game dev using blender and unity, I can explain it more. what you do is simulate the physical event, like a building exploding or crumbling, in blender, and tell it to save the keyframes of the pieces as an animation file. then you can import that entire building model into unity with the animation, and you play the pre-baked animation just like any other, so even though it LOOKS physical, it's really just a pretend simulation created FROM a previously-made real simulation. OR, such an animation could be made entirely in the game engine, in which case it would likely look less physically-accurate than doing it ahead of time in the 3d modeling software as a real simulation. the reason is, an animation with keyframes to play, takes WAAAAY less processing at run-time, than a real-time simulation would.
Adrian Thomas that wasn’t the point of the monologue though. The idea was that people are now fighting for nothing. There is no ideology or belief driving the wars, just business. War isn’t about the 2 opposing sides clashing about their beliefs, it’s just about the economy. That what snake was describing in the MGS4 universe
@@JakeRuzi you know why? ... Because its the poor fighting for the greed of the rich.... I don't see how it doesn't have anything to do with it. The elite in mgs just happens to be Zero and A.I. who also have control of the economy...therefore...
MGS is such a great thing that happened. None of my friends/family have played these games, it's just this thing that has brought me so much joy since the first game. It's very personal to me
I’ll never forget the first time I looked at this game, blown away by the sheer detail and beauty of it at the time. I can’t remember the last time I felt that way looking at a game
Whenever I feel the urge to play on my PS3 Superslim once in a while, MGS4 is the game I keep finding myself going back to. Its such a masterpiece and a joy to play again.
hah, wow, i remember i bought a ps3 just for this game, been a playstation owner ever since. spent tons of money on sony, all cause of kojima. what a crazy dude
I've done that with PS2 (I bought MGS3 6 months before I even had the console), then Ps3 with MGS4 (and bought the PSP on the same day, along with Portable Ops), and then the same with V and the Ps4. I owed my father some lent money, and bought the console before paying it back, so I had to play it in secret for about a month. Being a player himself, I told him on Father's Day and he was really excited. Thanks for reading :')
I remember playing MGS1 on the PS1. Totally blew my mind at that age, how a game could be used to make such an engaging experience, as much as FF7 did.
@@hyperfocus4866 Yeah Playstation was killing it back then. N64 had cleaner graphics but they had nothing to compare with the stories you could find in FF7 or MGS.
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It's things like this that remind me why I love this game so much. In my honest opinion, it's such a true example of a Genuine masterpiece. The Singleplayer, and MGO Aspect were insanely unique, and well designed in every way.
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@@merces47letifer4 i was so good, and i always wanted to play mgs3 online, but never could, bur for me mgo was sooo good that it really filled that void, shame that mgs 5 is soo different...
Fantastic video. The editing of clips are nice and unobtrusive, the research thats gone into the script is refreshing. Love to see people care about this series the way it deserves.
A couple of times I've seen Snake get knocked down by enemies and land on his feet after an acrobatic. I don't know how I did it, I have tried again many times, maybe by pressing X or Triangle at the right time ... I have not found anyone talking about this hidden mechanic on the websites that talk about secrets. I was hoping to find out something in this video. Another hidden mechanic no one talks about is related to the vibration. In chapter 4 it happened to me that when a Gekko looks at Snake but without seeing he because is camouflaged, I can hear a slight heartbeat in the form of vibration from the controller.
Amazing video my man, came across this randomly while reminiscing over MSG series. Keep up the great work man, you deserve alot more attention on channel.
The first time playing it bro, i fucking cryed so much at the end, i felt so good, was thinking that was the best game, i was so thankfull even at the start you instantly feel like the start of the most epic journey
@@diegodevars4618 annoying thing to me is that your title for the video makes me more interested in watching it. I havent watched the video yet and I'm reading these comments since the current title is so vague and I wanted an idea of what kind of "secret mechanics" would be discussed in a 30 minute video. I'd rather have something like what your title says rather than just a list of secrets few people know (again, especially for a 30 minute video).
@@462n I dont think its clickbait, he just choose the wrong words for his title. He put alot of work into this video, things like researching all of this, finding all the fitting clips, takes weeks, so give him some credit, and stop nagging at some title.
I wish we could’ve seen more dynamic combat zones in MGSV like there were in this one. You never once see enemy soldiers fighting other combatants, and the open world ended up feeling pretty empty. I know MGSV wasn’t fully completed, but there were some good aspects to MGS4 that I found myself missing.
@@Terror0619 What are you even saying? Do you know anything about its development cycle? It wasn't considered complete and wasn't Kojima's full vision, which means that while the game as he intended had come out could've still had these issues, we don't fully know that for certain.
@@theblobconsumes4859 kojima is literally on record saying the games story was as-intended and his vision. Alot of the cuts were made early in development. Including mission 51
@@theblobconsumes4859 plus the game was never going to be more then it was. Like we dont even play as the real big boss. The game served its purpose by filling in the last few plotholes/plotlines. The game was nothing more than essentially VR missions in real life to get venom up to speed for operation intrude n313 and to tell us what the real big boss was doing during the time while his stand in was filling his spot. The game is essentially a filler arc just to explain why big boss lived in metal gear 1 since it was venom. Once you look at the game as a fun gameplay focused filler arc to fill in the gap you then realize how genius the game is. Its complete and its perfect.
Switching from Infiltration to tps to FPS to infiltration and so on was so well done that only mgsv surpasses it. I don't even remember another game trying to do that.
I remember getting the MGS4 Special Edition PS3 console with the game for Christmas as a kid when it came out.... I have this warm feeling of running up to my room to setup the PS3 and so psyched watching the install screen with snake smoking. It was a natural sense of euphoria that as an adult I'll probably never feel again... few games have given me this feeling. Final Fantasy 7 was another....
I'm in my early 20's, and I distinctly remember getting my first game console, PlayStation 3, in March 2008. My parents had been looking for a backwards compatible model for a while. My dad finally found one a few hundred kilometers away. I've had my fondest gaming memories with PS3. Uncharted and The Last of Us are my all-time favorite games, but MGS as a franchise is closing in on them. I spent pretty much all of 2019 playing MGSV. It was amazing to kind of live in another, fictional, but still partly real world. I got so into the game that I wanted to buy the other entries in the series. As for the other entries in the MGS franchise, I played MGS4 for the first time a couple of months ago. I also bought a physical copy of MGS1 for PS1 to play on my PS3. Multiplayer games are nice in that you can jump in and out of them whenever you want (given that you have no other obligations), but single player games take you to a different word, to one in which you can live your life as someone else. I've struggled with letting myself get as into the fictional worlds of single player games as before. Now that I'm in my twenties, there's a lot of things that I have to take care of and thus, I can't get "lost" in a game world so easily anymore. Thank you for sharing your personal experience. It reminded me of my own experiences, and I wanted to share them with you.
"Incorporating the essence of movies in the game with no incongruity is what METAL GEAR SOLID is all about." HIDEO KOJIMA 1998 R.I.P. MGSV (Konami screwed Kojima and the fans) I have no doubt if Konami gave more money and more time Kojima would have made the cutscenes for MGSV. I dont know why DAVID HAYTER was removed but that also was a BIG MISTAKE. MGSV has great gameplay but it still feels unfinished and the lack of cutscenes takes away the motivation to play. It is still worth playing thou and THE PHANTOM PAIN means it kinda fits that the game was half finished.
I think David Hayter was removed because you don't play as Snake in V, in retrospect it makes sense. People complain Snake never talks but that's because he's not Snake at all.
@@hermeticdragon2643 Yeah and? Hayter should've voiced him in Ground Zeroes I guess but considering Venom Snake isn't Big Boss, I have little issue with him not voicing him in five.
@@ThePsychoRenegade Akio Ōtsuka is the Japanese voice actor for Snake and he voices both Big Boss and Solid Snake sooooooooooooooooooo hahahahahahaha! :) Seriously? Ground Zereos lol!!! They just released it early because MGSV was taking so long to develop and you acting like its a different game. Any MGS fan knows DAVID HAYTER is the voice of Snake and Big Boss. It was that way in previous games and it should of been that way in MGSV and it would have been if Kojima didnt have his falling out of whatever with Hayter. I remember reading that Kojima changed the voice actor because he had a long standing problem with Hayter or something...the change had nothing to do with Big Boss being different (spoiler: they are identical clones of each other) as Big Boss was already voiced by Hayter in Canon.
I can’t even get this game to run on my pc with a 1660 super gpu and a nice multi threaded cpu. Ended up cracking after so many tries and just bought a ps3. This game and console was a technical feat. Honestly they did amazing. So much respect for the devs for working so hard
You explored Metal Gear Solid 4 in a way others would never do, thank you. I am tired of just hearing 'the story is baaaaaaaaaad' and ending on that note.
for real, the story is not much better or worse than previous installments. The gameplay gives it the Trump card in my opinion and just because im not a big fan of Venom and MGSV. Old Snake for the win man, Solid was always the best.
Skyrim on the PS3 is pain. Once your save file goes over 12.5mb in size, the game will start chugging until it's essentially a slideshow. Only solution is to start a new file, so you theoretically cannot do everything in a single playthrough unless you were going speedrunner pace.
Inability to replay mission was hammered my brain at that time. I had to progress the mission SLOWLY and CRAWLING, just to savor all things Kojima served. Deliberately failing objective to saw if any special cutscenes i've missed. And that was my third playthrough.
I think this video needed a different title. As far as I can tell, you went over, at best, 2 things that could be argued were both a secret, and a mechanic (the missable dialogs about the B&B unit, and the detailed behaviour changes, and hand signals when enemies are alerted).
@@FuturasoundProductions I'm here every video dude, all of them! Honestly this is the content I go on youtube for, and there just isn't anything quite like your approach.
I played mgs4 on ps3 6 months before the ps4 came out and to this day, after having played many dozens, maybe 150 odd games since... to this day I still feel that no other game is nearly as high tech and innovative, mgs4 broadened the horizons of what is possible in games, what kind of experiences can be had, topics explored, how far outside the box can you go as a creator without alienating your player base... yet sadly no other developer seems as inspired, driven, daring, curious or ultimately as creative as kojima. Obviously graphics have come a very long way since then, and there have been some advancements in audio, but these advances seem to be more more often in the tools and tech used by developers and not in how developers are thinking or using them, unlike kojima who seems to break every tool at his disposal down and think hard about how best to utilize it to achieve his vision, and boy is he visionary. There are other amazing studios and games, naughty dog, Santa Monica with last of us and god of war 4, both highly innovative studios who have enjoyed (and earned) the recognition that comes with best selling genre-defining games, and I could mention many others, but kojima doesn't just make genre-defining games, he makes games that redefine gaming, period. This is why kojima is so loved by fans, it is why his absence is felt between games, because we who play are addicted to the magic, to that sense of wonder you felt the first time you experience something you didn't know was possible in a perfect blend of learning, excitement, emotion and style. I'm so glad Sony gave him the freedom to make whatever he wanted after konami made such fools of themselves at kojima and his fans expense, a perfect example of creativity being crushed for profit and how poorly executives seem to understand this precious artform that makes them rich, you can't put a bird in a cage and expect people to pay to see it fly, and with Sony supporting kojima fans can rejoice every time this creative genius takes flight.
@Daniel Capric Hideaki Itsuno. He made DMC 3, and helped make DMC1. The ps2 wasn't powerful enough to make smart AI enemies in the amount necessary to create the challenge they wanted to make. So Itsuno and his team pieced together low level AI, so as to allow them the ability to have a large number of enemies on screen, without a drop in the 60fps. Not only that, but when pieced together, they would amplify the difficulty by quite a bit. It is very much so like chess, and each level of difficulty would resemble a novice (but still decent), all the way up to a master. The ingenius thought to lessen the AI, so they could actually create what they wanted for the final product is actually quite literally what you are talking about, but now they do not innovate in general in gaming. This very thought process is what the golden age of gaming was in a nutshell, and not fast approaching upgrades in hardware. The bunk excuse of things moving faster at that time compared to now is garbage, as an old 2005 game still mechanically bests mosts games to date, and only needs a update for the camera, and a slight facelift for that little extra. The way most devs are either forced to follow, or choose to follow in game design leaves so much space for innovation, that it's honestly more of the industry than the devs at fault. Capcom was Crapcom until recent years, and finally we got DMC5 after years of wait, and since Capcom has backed off its stupid time frames for the devs cycle, we got a great game. Now I'm not sure about his other games as I never played them, but DMC3 still holds up as one of the best action games to date, and that is 15 years after its release. So there are other devs who do the same, but might get locked out of their creativity as the company might force unreasonable deadlines, causing a lack of innovation. After all, Itsuno made DMC4 as well, and it has the blemish of being unfinished since it was given to small an amount of development time for such a game.
Awesome video my friend. This game always gets the shaft when it’s compared to the other MGS games, but I have so much respect for it. It’s sometimes not as fun as the others, but it’s a work of art just as much as the games before it.
@@LeMaq95Well to begin with a PC port would be nice and 120+ fps would steal my eye. Higher detail world, particles, textures, shadows, illumination, everything that the game can be. As i said, it´s just a wish :(
only few games are made with efforts like these and all games belongs to Kojima ! I love all MGS series for its story, characters, gameplay and there was something even deeper in this game that has influenced our minds back then.
Too bad they didn't seem to ever consult a different military guy though. Snakes movements look weird and stunted, exactly like that military guys did.
One of the most expertly crafted action games I've ever played. The gameplay absolutely holds up to this day. Also, the way the story was told was wonderful. If only MGSV did the same...
i hope not too many people take this video seriously - i came in here looking for actual hidden details and gameplay mechanics and all i got was a 30 minute long ad (for an old game?) of someone misunderstanding (and promoting) buzzword usage and attributing many things to the wrong cause
Around the halfway point you really started padding the video. PC gaming had 3D positional audio back in the 90's. Plenty of games like Half Life 2 took pictures of areas to use as reference and used photo realistic graphics on recreations of physical objects. None of this stuff was a revolution exclusive to MGS4
Absolute favorite game of all time. Played it about 20 times over and over, even it's silent take on real world war economy and the powers who profit from it, while of course excluding the dirtywork contractors. Just a fantastic game, a Masterpiece even.
Gameplay wise metal gear solid five is amazing but I’d be lying if I said I don’t miss sneaking through actual battle fields with multiple armies going to war all around you
Nowadays games aren't made with such effort and quality control. I can remember very few games where shadows don't flicker, and that is seriously important
Part of why V's open world disappointed me so much is that I expected there to be warzones like the MGS4 ones where you can sneak through, just on a larger scale. Instead there was, well, nothing. Except mice to catch
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MGS3 is a PS3 game in a PS2. MGS4 is a PS4 game in a PS3. Death Stranding is a game released before SARS-COV2 lockdowns and the rise of deliveries. MGS2 is a game reflecting upon memes and fake news released a decade or two before the proliferation of such things. At this point Kojima seems to have visions of the future.
Also, just finished the video. That was an incredible analysis with your stellar presentation and style, as usual! A lot of things I wasn't even aware of, like the smells, and lighting effecting Snake. And wrapping it in with parallelism is as nice a touch of Kojima. Well done dude.
The tech and creativity was great but unfortunately I think the actual game was quite short and linear. The levels make it look like they are big or sprawling but at best you got for a fork in the path. The 2ns half of the game is smaller. I remember being amazed at how fast I could complete it when I skipped cutscenes, which despite all the talk about how seamless they were, they were actually the most annoying and interrupted gameplay more than other game to date. Even at the start you literally walk 2 steps and then go under a truck before another cutscenes. They should have had more levels than cutscenes.
Currently playing MGS4 again for more than the 15th time and it still amazes me how technichaly flawless it is. From camera work in cutscenes to gameplay mechanics, character models (wich are easily the best on that generation), the physics, sound and visual effects and many many other details, the work put in this game is just incredible. I still consider it one of the best games out there for the massive amount of quality it has.
@@martinramirez21 I totally agree. It blows my mind when people say "Yeah mgsV plot is garbage but gameplay wise it's the best!". I think when they say it they mean it again has the most mecanics, I wouldn't believe anyone can prefer playing through mgsv instead of mgs3. MGS3 has such a great pace, such great bosses, so much to offer while also being very focused
You've put a lot of hard working into making this video and delivering your point of view with great in video example. I wish I had this level skill of being able to deliver my point of view as clear as you. Thank you for your time and passion.
Rex vs Ray, Solid riding with Big Mama, Big Boss killing Zero, Shadow Moses... MGS4 is chalked full so many memorable moments on top of tying the franchise together. And didn't miss a beat on the franchises commentary on the psychological implications of war as well as a stronger emphasis on the speculative evolution of the war economy. Venom snakes chapter being the only real loose end, MGS4 was a love letter to the franchise. It even came with a complete downloadable digital glossary or Blu-ray if you got the limited edition.
Nice to see some appreciation for MGS4. The MGS2 elitist fanbase has really done a number on this game's reputation in the years since it's release. It's too bad the internet is absorbed by the zero sum game mentality. It's not enough to just like a game and leave it at that, you have to teardown anything that can be compared to it.
"Snake would bring stealth to the battlefield, something never before seen in a sneaking game". Well, aside from Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, which had stealth-action gameplay in the midst of battlefield back in 2005.
You're talking about a derivative stealth game with battlefield-based set pieces. CT was still at bottom in the same vein as previous SC titles. MGS4 integrated warfighting and stealth like no game in the genre before it. There's simply no comparison.
@Greig91 Chaos Theory is such a cool game. I remember playing it with my friend when we were like 8 and couldn't even navigate past the first couple levels XD good times lol.
Futurasound Productions Chaous Theory still rules, it might not be as grandiose as any Metal Gear Solid game, but in terms of actual accessibility and gameplay, it far surpasses its MGS contemporaries. For how amazing MGS 2 and MGS 3 are, their controls are unintuitive and actually sneaking around feels cumbersome. Unless you’ve played the games several times and know exactly what what to do, you’re constantly setting off alerts and stumbling around enemies. In contrast, Chaos Theory plays like a game released this year (I’m talking only about the controls). In fact, MGS 4 and 5 control very similar to Chaos Theory, and I don’t think it’s because Kojima Productions simply copied Ubisoft, it’s just that Chaos Theory had the first great control setup for navigating a 3-D environment. Like you said, the MGS games were limited by their roots as a 2D series, the controls for MGS 1,2 and 3 make much more sense as controls for a 2D game. Splinter Cell got a head start because it was designed from the start to be a 3-D game. As for the level in Seoul, it’s the first stealth level in an active battlefield, but by technicality only. Because of technical limitations, the “battle” is largely just set dressing, its more akin to a Disney theme park ride rather than a battle fought by the AI with NPCs. But Chaos Theory still slaps with its excellent level design.
The blu ray documentary that came with my edition was freaking great. Such an incredible game and spent so many hours online after the game itself. What an era.
Got this in my recommended. Man, almost 12 years later and I still find new stuff in this game.
shame that it's story sucks
@@averagesionenjoyer8948 it doesn't suck.
I brought it and only played it once.
@@hyperfocus4866 I played it at least 10 times... and every time I found new things that I didn't find previously.
@@averagesionenjoyer8948 it's the best title in the series
I can't believe MGS1 graphics turned into THIS in 7 years. The early 3D years evolved so quickly man.
Same love the effort
Yes, but keep in mind that there was two generations of console between MGS1 and MGS4, and probably several orders of magnitude between the budget of the two games. Also it's 10 years not 7 years.
@@shinji906 mgs1 was released in 98 and the first trailors for mgs4 were released in 2005....so that's 7 years worth of technology. I'm not talking about when mgs4 was released to public I'm talking about when the graphical capabilities were possible.
@@RENZEENO That 2005 trailer was made with MGS3's engine, and MGS1's first public reveal was in 1996, so your logic is faulty on both games.
@@bergonath8851 I don't know where your getting your info from but the TGS 2005 mgs4 trailer was from the new ps3 based engine. when I mentioned 1998 for MGS1 that was more vague, fair enough, the 1996 trailer was using pre renders anyway, the first in engine footage was from 1997 so your tryna argue with me over 1 year... my point still stands. The graphics improved vastly over those few years during the turn of the century.
I wish MGS4 had more sneaking levels with humans. It’s one of the rare stealth games where you can sneak in an environment where your opponents are at war with another faction
The environments in Afghanistan are completely different depending on where your at and I had a problem with it being so hollow and devoid of life. Imagine sneaking into a local city and sneaking in with patrols around the place and locals giving patrols about your location if you look suspicious.
I thought the whole game would be taking place in the first location. Chapter 1 was the most fun in my opinion
I liked MGS V, but i feel like it just wasn't... finished.. yknow? Like compared to MGS 3 (wit the pillS) and MGS4 i don't have cool shit like sneaking through a Mujajadheen/Soviet warzone while Quiet snipes from a derelict tower, watching the competing Mercenaries do crazy stuff. And while i did like feeling like a one man army super spy sneaking through a huge airport and crap, i wish there was just.. a bit more yknow?
Agreed. i call MGS4 a beautiful bonsai tree that was killed with over-pruning. the really good shit is so broken up, you never really can get a big satisfying chunk of gameplay out of it. I want multi-hour sessions on battlefields, running into problems, solving them, sneaking, surviving.
MGSV is the opposite issue. There's hundreds of hours of gameplay you can drop in and out of, literally, at almost any area in the game. But nothing is really happening because it's just 1 faction of NPCs. It's got good sneaking and action but Kojima decided to import his HR dept simulator from peace walker so you have to worry about that shit now.
@@sethleoric2598 because Konami didn't let Kojima finish the game.
MGS4 was such a technical achievement. It can easily pass for a ps4 game.
That's because this gen was so weak, full of "cinematic expiriences", "remasters" and "remakes". Still I wouldn't mind playing MGS 4 in 1080p, Octocamo is a cool feature and I don't think it was implemented in any other game in such a neat way, too bad Sony and Konami don't feel that way.
I wish I could play it again with the surround sound. I never knew they had the sound so detailed
Never
@Danny Chesney It's not certain, but Sony has been talking about backwards compatibility for ps5, so maybe you might not need a remaster - just a new console :D
I will definitely play it again, if that's the case.
@@Fillthrill nope, Ps4 backwards only.
How the heck did they actually get an iPod in the game? To answer my own question:
"According to MGS4 Integral Podcast #1, the reason for the iPod's inclusion in Metal Gear Solid 4 was because the members of Kojima Productions were fans of Apple products, and they got permission from Apple to use it in-game after showing them a short demonstration video.
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Bonus facts:
"The inclusion of the iPod in the game was heavily criticized as a distracting promotion. However, it is not unusual for military personnel to use iPods in combat. In particular, Bullet Flight, an iPod Touch application that makes ballistic calculations, is used by real world U.S. snipers."
- Metal Gear Fandom
Amazing comment! I'd also venture a guess and say that the iPod's inclusion has implications for the 'SOP' System concept. The advent of digital music via Apple's devices put everyone onto a single 'system' culturally. The iPod, iTunes et al provided a filter to block painful realities by way of a potentially endless stream of emotional data (in the form of music). Apple no longer reigns over the realm of music like it did back in 2008, having ceded ground to sites like Spotify and even UA-cam in the Streaming Age.
It's debatably also a nod to the fact that, like the PS3, Apple technology often uses closed architecture systems web.stanford.edu/dept/SUL/sites/mac/primary/docs/open.html
@@FuturasoundProductions Thanks, and also thank you for a enlightening video about mgs4, with a perspective and inclusion of hardware and worldview at that time that I haven't seen before.
Regarding the iPod, yeah I definitely think that fits the themes on display and again makes sense at that point in time. It's insane how much there is in these games, I' bet even Dirk Gently would have trouble comprehending Kojima's interconnectedness of all things.
@@FuturasoundProductions That is quite a convoluted comment and pointless link. The iPod, and the numerous other Apple products included in the game, were only done so because the developers were fans of the industrial design and reached out to Apple - as Filip already cited. It is quite rare for a company to license their product's likeness into media. This has nothing do with putting people into a "system", or the music distribution industry. This is about quality work being appreciated.
It never came off as an overt advertisement. Snake never talked about how cool it was to have an iPod- new version comes out and he says "kept me waiting huh?" It was packed with mgs tracks and was very passive. Potentially you may not even realize you have it on a first play. Perfect inclusion of a real world product and as others have pointed out, it's not uncommon in the military irl
The military uses so much cots equipment it's not even funny.
I still go back and play mgs4 every now and then. It’s such a unique game, there still really isn’t anything like it
True. Despite being a decade old the HUD and story still feel refreshingly new aswell as the ever changing drebin shop and random codec calls that we sometimes forget about. And besides that you could even get the Easter egg weapons
i just wish the MGO community won't have been that toxic as i remember (this was the one reason beside hackers, that they shut down the MGO servers after only some years)
Honestly its my favourite game in the series. Every single thing feels "next gen" even though it's 12 years old. It rivals AAA games nowadays and is my bar for stealth games.
@@edgymcmemes1718 i totally agree! when it came to MGO, everthing was so realistic, that i was not sure if it was taken from "real footage" or all pure binary codes behind the colors hahaha. sadly i was only abled to play it 2 hours per week. PS. the good thing is, it runs even better on RPCS3 (ps3 emulator on PC) as on PS3 itself. steady 60fps and possibility of Anti-Aliasing. etc
@@KFPSplayer I loved MGS4's MGO. Playing as Snake in multi was one my most favorite thing ever, almost as fun as... Messing around with the Mark III lol. What was great about this multi is that you HAD to play as a real squad to be effective. If you found players who wanted to play as a team instead of going Rambo, you were pretty much invincible. And everyone could play the way they wanted to. Some were more into CQC, others into precision weapons, others into explosives or handguns... I think one of the mistakes they made were the DLCs for MGO which in my opinion were underwhelming and should've been free to play. I got my current nickname from MGO and I've kept it ever since!
MGS4 was a love letter to gamers, the amount of work spent on the development of this game is unbelievable.
@Franshisk my mans never played a metal gear game by the sounds of it lol
@Franshisk is Fortnite or CoD a love letter to gamers more than MGS4? lol
@SanteonGames other than maybe 2 there is no game that's as bad with this as MGS4 still love it though.
And gamers wiped their asses with that letter
Octocam has been one of the most unique gamemechanics ever created and has not been duplicated.
Kojima is the goat...
Stuart Ramirez yep! Love his work!
In Snake Eater, you can interrogate enemies to get radio frequencies that heal you. That's even more unique since it's not a thing from real life.
@@wheedler really? didn't know that. mgs is full of creative stuff like that.
mabbohabb great to hear!
This makes me appreciate mgs games more and I didn’t think that was possible because of the adoration I already had for these games. RIP to my favorite video game series....
Try death Stranding
if you did some research some of the MG Developer Vets still on Konami like i heard 60% of them mostly the one who follow Kojima is the developer of MGSV
Is really something legendary
How does it feel to know we get a Snake Eater remake?
I bought the MGS4 PS3 bundle. I was so overjoyed to bring it home and play this. It blew my mind back in 2008. I can't believe it's been 12 years since then.
The best game ever
@Stuart Ramirez DMC 3 baby, but that's just my opinion.
@@onepoundswallowtwopoundcoc3115 both are like the best game of the genre so yeah I agree....
@Stuart Ramirez Yeah, I never got to play the other MGS games, and I have 4, but it was a lackadasical experience at the time without understanding certain things going in. I never got far in it, but now I think I have enough understanding of the game, and what it was going for to enjoy it, as well as finish it. Funny how you can have such a vastly different experience with a game, just by knowing how it is really intended to be played.
One guy was saying he didn't like Farcry4, but liked 5. I talked him into playing 4, and going in knowing it is actually more a precise shooter then just empty this amount of bullets anywhere, and get the same result. Knowing what you're getting into is really helpful with the overall experience. He gave it a second chance due to understanding that feedback wasn't from the sound, like in 5 how it goes thunk, but rather how the enemies react to the impact of the bullets.
@@onepoundswallowtwopoundcoc3115 yeah men very good statements
It upsets me that too many creators get so dismissive about this game and the work put into it.
This should have set a bar to follow, but instead people turn their heads away from it.
@Starscream91 *laughs in Metal Gear Survive*
@Starscream91 I disagree. MGS:V is truly the worst one in the main series.
MGS4 wasnt as ''open'' as MGS3, but it was still an amazing game, especially when entering shadow moses again. It was the most movie like MGS for a reason.
The ending was done beautifully, and i believe i never skipped those cutscenes.
@Starscream91 How can you put philosophical and MGS:V into the same sentence? MGS:V WAS the game that felt like an MGS Fanfiction gone wrong. Volgin re-appearing as a flame dude because of the fake Snakes hatred? A bad plot twist of some random medic in a helicopter being a replacement for boss? Sounds like a 15yr old has written that.
MGS4 gave us a clash between the 2 brothers, a conclusion to all their fights, that they were made by men, only to fight. The entire storyline of the patriots was ended, a group that wanted to control the world, its wars and everything by nanomashines and technology.
It gave us an idea of how that system was abused to control the entire world, so that nobody could decide for himself. They chose how war plays out, like puppets.
To say this storyline is a fanfiction, and MGS:Vs bad monologue about tongues, languages and bad plots is an insult.
MGS 4 is a sequel of a game that didn't need it and was a complete story, that and hours of cutscenes that disrupt gameplay (also Paris escort chapter, ugh). People have every right and reason in the book to be dismissive of it.
@@Bodwaizer Uhh dude, incase you forgot, Ocelot/Liquid was still alive in MGS2 and was capturing Ray.
It didnt need a sequel? How? Would you have ended it on MGS2 story wise and just said ''Well liquid is off with Ray and does absolutely nothing''? Of course it needed a sequel, and i dont understand the hate about the cutscenes especially, that was always how Metal Gear was.
Thank you for reminding me why I love this game so much, and why it is so ahead of its time, the amount of work and effort put into this game is mind blowing, hats off to kojima and the team
Yea but lets alsk konami to make a mod to drive a tank and also to shoot with it. Or to fly a helicopter if theese are in the game in then its the best game ever.
@@jacay883 I have no idea what you just said
@@mvscowner i mean that i wish to have a mod like to drive a tank in mgs4 so would be that possible something? If i can drive a tank in mgs4 online or offline then that would be the best game forever.
@@jacay883 you're missing the point. MGS4/MGO is perfect as it is.
I think the game you're looking for is named Battle Field
There will never be a more in depth framchise like Metal Gear Soild.
Unfortunately you're right. It was something special.
I wish everyone forgot metal gear history, gameplay, and existence, so we can all play it and enjoy it as we enjoyed it the first time.
21:01 That is not actual destruction physics. It's pre-made destruction animations most likely. The staircase gets destroyed in the exact same manner every single time. Same goes for exploding vans and stuff - it's probably just a model swap covered by the explosion effects.
yeah. as a game dev using blender and unity, I can explain it more. what you do is simulate the physical event, like a building exploding or crumbling, in blender, and tell it to save the keyframes of the pieces as an animation file. then you can import that entire building model into unity with the animation, and you play the pre-baked animation just like any other, so even though it LOOKS physical, it's really just a pretend simulation created FROM a previously-made real simulation.
OR, such an animation could be made entirely in the game engine, in which case it would likely look less physically-accurate than doing it ahead of time in the 3d modeling software as a real simulation.
the reason is, an animation with keyframes to play, takes WAAAAY less processing at run-time, than a real-time simulation would.
@@westingtyler1 so tldr is:
Premade animation being done with 3rd party software (or in game engine) saves power for hardware.
im seriously considering buying a ps3 just to play this game
Grunkly Devito but will the sound detail still be the same?
don't
Do it bro
Mgsv is in it
I did like one month ago
Fallout: War.... war never changes....
*Solid Snake has entered the chat*
War never changes is smart, snake 's monologue was cheesy even for mgs lmao
Alpha Bronco Two Zero but war did change...
@@JakeRuzi meh...it's still the poor dying horribly for the greed of the rich 🤷🏻♂️
Adrian Thomas that wasn’t the point of the monologue though. The idea was that people are now fighting for nothing. There is no ideology or belief driving the wars, just business. War isn’t about the 2 opposing sides clashing about their beliefs, it’s just about the economy. That what snake was describing in the MGS4 universe
@@JakeRuzi you know why? ...
Because its the poor fighting for the greed of the rich.... I don't see how it doesn't have anything to do with it. The elite in mgs just happens to be Zero and A.I. who also have control of the economy...therefore...
MGS is such a great thing that happened. None of my friends/family have played these games, it's just this thing that has brought me so much joy since the first game. It's very personal to me
15 minutes in, and you haven't mentioned a SINGLE secret mechanic of MGS4. I think you need to reconsider the title of this video.
TRUE
I’ll never forget the first time I looked at this game, blown away by the sheer detail and beauty of it at the time. I can’t remember the last time I felt that way looking at a game
Whenever I feel the urge to play on my PS3 Superslim once in a while, MGS4 is the game I keep finding myself going back to. Its such a masterpiece and a joy to play again.
Got it in my recommended, nice video king
Mgs4 has so much depth in design and mechanics. It was mind blowing then and still is today.
hah, wow, i remember i bought a ps3 just for this game, been a playstation owner ever since. spent tons of money on sony, all cause of kojima. what a crazy dude
I've done that with PS2 (I bought MGS3 6 months before I even had the console), then Ps3 with MGS4 (and bought the PSP on the same day, along with Portable Ops), and then the same with V and the Ps4. I owed my father some lent money, and bought the console before paying it back, so I had to play it in secret for about a month. Being a player himself, I told him on Father's Day and he was really excited. Thanks for reading :')
I got the old fat 80 gb model that came with MGS4. Was the first console I bought with my own money.
I remember playing MGS1 on the PS1. Totally blew my mind at that age, how a game could be used to make such an engaging experience, as much as FF7 did.
@@hyperfocus4866 Yeah Playstation was killing it back then. N64 had cleaner graphics but they had nothing to compare with the stories you could find in FF7 or MGS.
Guys METAL GEAR ONLINE 2 MGS4 is playable since 2017
Follow this tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/G9d4ij88XME/v-deo.html
YOU DONT NEED A HACKED PS3 to play it!
It's things like this that remind me why I love this game so much. In my honest opinion, it's such a true example of a Genuine masterpiece. The Singleplayer, and MGO Aspect were insanely unique, and well designed in every way.
Too bad they removed MGO. If they added a Raiden DLC to the single player though. They could get rich
Guys METAL GEAR ONLINE 2 MGS4 is playable since 2017
Follow this tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/G9d4ij88XME/v-deo.html
YOU DONT NEED A HACKED
PS3 to play it!
Theres a lot of people playing everyday, if you want more information go to savemgo.com
Mgo was sooooo goood
I loved loveddddd MGO
@@merces47letifer4 i was so good, and i always wanted to play mgs3 online, but never could, bur for me mgo was sooo good that it really filled that void, shame that mgs 5 is soo different...
Fantastic video. The editing of clips are nice and unobtrusive, the research thats gone into the script is refreshing. Love to see people care about this series the way it deserves.
SECOND BEST to the series, hands down has the most replayability of the franchise.
Blessed to have grown up on MGS.
Snake Eater is #1 IMO literally shed tears the first time I beat that game XD
@Aaron9 It's called an opinion you neanderthal!! >:( Love youuuuu!!
Pshhhh your crazy. I played 1,2,3 waaaaaay more.
This was less about "mechanics" and more about presentation.
Agreed. I thought secret mechanics meant gameplay features that i didn't know about.
Still a compelling video to watch tho.
I think he’d have specified “gameplay mechanics” if that’s what he meant.
I can still see the confusion though.
A couple of times I've seen Snake get knocked down by enemies and land on his feet after an acrobatic. I don't know how I did it, I have tried again many times, maybe by pressing X or Triangle at the right time ... I have not found anyone talking about this hidden mechanic on the websites that talk about secrets. I was hoping to find out something in this video. Another hidden mechanic no one talks about is related to the vibration. In chapter 4 it happened to me that when a Gekko looks at Snake but without seeing he because is camouflaged, I can hear a slight heartbeat in the form of vibration from the controller.
26:14 the future of game design was in hidden details and creativity. (2005)
Huh, I'm guessing most developers didn't get the memo
Rockstar and CD project red did.
maxometer123 I know
Hidden Details dont sell well.
Horse Ball physics do!
@@maxometer123 WRONG!
drinking game: take a shot every time he says parallel
and "real time" or "dynamic" if you want to get really wasted
Now that's a good example of parallelism displayed by this video
@@karanjoshi2662 more like: now that's a good example of dynamic parallelism displayed by this video in real time
FSP does not endorse this idea, you will get your shit wrecked
Lol
I absolutely loved MGS4. It’s probably my favorite in the series
the best recommendation I received in quite a while...
keep the great work bro, looking forward for the next videos!
Amazing video my man, came across this randomly while reminiscing over MSG series. Keep up the great work man, you deserve alot more attention on channel.
Loved the technical prowess of the team at Kojima Productions, too bad that that era seems to be over.
Great video
METAL GEAR SOLID 4 IS THE MOST EPIC FINALE
FACTS! When I saw Shadow Moses again for the first time since 6th grade, I had to fight back tears. This game is a piece of art!
Final battle: 2 old guys beating the crap out of each other
@@tahamohammad8842 Election 2020. Sorry. I couldn't help myself. LOL
The first time playing it bro, i fucking cryed so much at the end, i felt so good, was thinking that was the best game, i was so thankfull even at the start you instantly feel like the start of the most epic journey
"Documentary: Behind the Scenes of MGS4". This is the title you should have went for, but instead you went with something click-baity.
Or maybe "MGS4 and its attention to detail"
I was 5 min in and i was like, wheres the secrets? Yep dislike
I'm sure you all knew these "secrets" beforehand then?
@@diegodevars4618 annoying thing to me is that your title for the video makes me more interested in watching it.
I havent watched the video yet and I'm reading these comments since the current title is so vague and I wanted an idea of what kind of "secret mechanics" would be discussed in a 30 minute video. I'd rather have something like what your title says rather than just a list of secrets few people know (again, especially for a 30 minute video).
@@462n I dont think its clickbait, he just choose the wrong words for his title.
He put alot of work into this video, things like researching all of this, finding all the fitting clips, takes weeks, so give him some credit, and stop nagging at some title.
This is what happens when you optimize the fuck out of your work. That hardware was truly ahead of its time
Great vid man! MGS4 is my favourite game of all time!
this is such a well done video its even divided in parts in desktop youtube, Great Work mane
I wish we could’ve seen more dynamic combat zones in MGSV like there were in this one. You never once see enemy soldiers fighting other combatants, and the open world ended up feeling pretty empty. I know MGSV wasn’t fully completed, but there were some good aspects to MGS4 that I found myself missing.
Mgs 5 was complete. People who say it wasnt complete are looking at the game completely wrong
@@Terror0619 What are you even saying? Do you know anything about its development cycle? It wasn't considered complete and wasn't Kojima's full vision, which means that while the game as he intended had come out could've still had these issues, we don't fully know that for certain.
@@theblobconsumes4859 kojima is literally on record saying the games story was as-intended and his vision. Alot of the cuts were made early in development. Including mission 51
@@theblobconsumes4859 plus the game was never going to be more then it was. Like we dont even play as the real big boss. The game served its purpose by filling in the last few plotholes/plotlines. The game was nothing more than essentially VR missions in real life to get venom up to speed for operation intrude n313 and to tell us what the real big boss was doing during the time while his stand in was filling his spot. The game is essentially a filler arc just to explain why big boss lived in metal gear 1 since it was venom. Once you look at the game as a fun gameplay focused filler arc to fill in the gap you then realize how genius the game is. Its complete and its perfect.
@@Terror0619 In that case, then that's pretty boring. I get the concept, but that's kinda boring.
Switching from Infiltration to tps to FPS to infiltration and so on was so well done that only mgsv surpasses it. I don't even remember another game trying to do that.
Snake: "War... has changed"
Fallout Protag: "Um, excuse me?"
You really dug deep for this one
I remember getting the MGS4 Special Edition PS3 console with the game for Christmas as a kid when it came out.... I have this warm feeling of running up to my room to setup the PS3 and so psyched watching the install screen with snake smoking. It was a natural sense of euphoria that as an adult I'll probably never feel again... few games have given me this feeling. Final Fantasy 7 was another....
Duuuuudeeeeee yeah, that is what a true game should make you feel, i felt the same thing, me and my friend who was a hardcore fan like me
I'm in my early 20's, and I distinctly remember getting my first game console, PlayStation 3, in March 2008. My parents had been looking for a backwards compatible model for a while. My dad finally found one a few hundred kilometers away.
I've had my fondest gaming memories with PS3. Uncharted and The Last of Us are my all-time favorite games, but MGS as a franchise is closing in on them.
I spent pretty much all of 2019 playing MGSV. It was amazing to kind of live in another, fictional, but still partly real world. I got so into the game that I wanted to buy the other entries in the series.
As for the other entries in the MGS franchise, I played MGS4 for the first time a couple of months ago. I also bought a physical copy of MGS1 for PS1 to play on my PS3.
Multiplayer games are nice in that you can jump in and out of them whenever you want (given that you have no other obligations), but single player games take you to a different word, to one in which you can live your life as someone else.
I've struggled with letting myself get as into the fictional worlds of single player games as before. Now that I'm in my twenties, there's a lot of things that I have to take care of and thus, I can't get "lost" in a game world so easily anymore.
Thank you for sharing your personal experience. It reminded me of my own experiences, and I wanted to share them with you.
29:21 I'm pretty sure that guards in MGS2 already used hand gestures to communicate
They did… they were beyond advanced
"Incorporating the essence of movies in the game with no incongruity is what METAL GEAR SOLID is all about." HIDEO KOJIMA 1998
R.I.P. MGSV (Konami screwed Kojima and the fans) I have no doubt if Konami gave more money and more time Kojima would have made the cutscenes for MGSV. I dont know why DAVID HAYTER was removed but that also was a BIG MISTAKE. MGSV has great gameplay but it still feels unfinished and the lack of cutscenes takes away the motivation to play. It is still worth playing thou and THE PHANTOM PAIN means it kinda fits that the game was half finished.
I think David Hayter was removed because you don't play as Snake in V, in retrospect it makes sense. People complain Snake never talks but that's because he's not Snake at all.
@@ThePsychoRenegade Dude. Play MSG3 Snake Eater. David Hayter does the voice to Big Boss.
@@hermeticdragon2643 Yeah and? Hayter should've voiced him in Ground Zeroes I guess but considering Venom Snake isn't Big Boss, I have little issue with him not voicing him in five.
@@ThePsychoRenegade Akio Ōtsuka is the Japanese voice actor for Snake and he voices both Big Boss and Solid Snake sooooooooooooooooooo hahahahahahaha! :) Seriously? Ground Zereos lol!!! They just released it early because MGSV was taking so long to develop and you acting like its a different game. Any MGS fan knows DAVID HAYTER is the voice of Snake and Big Boss. It was that way in previous games and it should of been that way in MGSV and it would have been if Kojima didnt have his falling out of whatever with Hayter. I remember reading that Kojima changed the voice actor because he had a long standing problem with Hayter or something...the change had nothing to do with Big Boss being different (spoiler: they are identical clones of each other) as Big Boss was already voiced by Hayter in Canon.
@@hermeticdragon2643 they aren't clones; mgsv's "big boss" is actually the medic
I can’t even get this game to run on my pc with a 1660 super gpu and a nice multi threaded cpu. Ended up cracking after so many tries and just bought a ps3. This game and console was a technical feat. Honestly they did amazing. So much respect for the devs for working so hard
MGS4 is probably my favorite game out of all of them
my brother bought a ps3 when mgs4 came out. will never forget how the graphics blew my mind coming from ps2.
You explored Metal Gear Solid 4 in a way others would never do, thank you.
I am tired of just hearing 'the story is baaaaaaaaaad' and ending on that note.
for real, the story is not much better or worse than previous installments. The gameplay gives it the Trump card in my opinion and just because im not a big fan of Venom and MGSV. Old Snake for the win man, Solid was always the best.
@@Megaman54327 trump is not a proper noun unless you're talking about the fleshbeast ex-prez
Nanomachines!
I like when the robots go, "MOO!"
Skyrim on the PS3 is pain. Once your save file goes over 12.5mb in size, the game will start chugging until it's essentially a slideshow. Only solution is to start a new file, so you theoretically cannot do everything in a single playthrough unless you were going speedrunner pace.
Inability to replay mission was hammered my brain at that time.
I had to progress the mission SLOWLY and CRAWLING, just to savor all things Kojima served.
Deliberately failing objective to saw if any special cutscenes i've missed.
And that was my third playthrough.
I think this video needed a different title. As far as I can tell, you went over, at best, 2 things that could be argued were both a secret, and a mechanic (the missable dialogs about the B&B unit, and the detailed behaviour changes, and hand signals when enemies are alerted).
Are you planning on doing anything on Death Stranding in the near futura?
You know it Boss! I can't tell you what your support means. It literally keeps me going!
@@FuturasoundProductions I'm here every video dude, all of them! Honestly this is the content I go on youtube for, and there just isn't anything quite like your approach.
But death stranding is a bad game :-(
@@_Tizoc_ In your opinion.
Griffin I recently started playing it and I really like it.👍
So impressed with this series of videos thank you!
although i can't help but notice all the alerts and missed head shots in the video haha
Fantastic game, my one gripe is that it's not long enough. Another couple of levels in the style of act 1 and 2 would be perfect.
For me, this was the most metal gear metal gear has ever been, if it wasn't for the long ass cinematics it would be the perfect metal gear.
I played mgs4 on ps3 6 months before the ps4 came out and to this day, after having played many dozens, maybe 150 odd games since... to this day I still feel that no other game is nearly as high tech and innovative, mgs4 broadened the horizons of what is possible in games, what kind of experiences can be had, topics explored, how far outside the box can you go as a creator without alienating your player base... yet sadly no other developer seems as inspired, driven, daring, curious or ultimately as creative as kojima.
Obviously graphics have come a very long way since then, and there have been some advancements in audio, but these advances seem to be more more often in the tools and tech used by developers and not in how developers are thinking or using them, unlike kojima who seems to break every tool at his disposal down and think hard about how best to utilize it to achieve his vision, and boy is he visionary.
There are other amazing studios and games, naughty dog, Santa Monica with last of us and god of war 4, both highly innovative studios who have enjoyed (and earned) the recognition that comes with best selling genre-defining games, and I could mention many others, but kojima doesn't just make genre-defining games, he makes games that redefine gaming, period. This is why kojima is so loved by fans, it is why his absence is felt between games, because we who play are addicted to the magic, to that sense of wonder you felt the first time you experience something you didn't know was possible in a perfect blend of learning, excitement, emotion and style.
I'm so glad Sony gave him the freedom to make whatever he wanted after konami made such fools of themselves at kojima and his fans expense, a perfect example of creativity being crushed for profit and how poorly executives seem to understand this precious artform that makes them rich, you can't put a bird in a cage and expect people to pay to see it fly, and with Sony supporting kojima fans can rejoice every time this creative genius takes flight.
*clap* *clap* *clap*
Now this right here is underrated
@Daniel Capric Hideaki Itsuno. He made DMC 3, and helped make DMC1. The ps2 wasn't powerful enough to make smart AI enemies in the amount necessary to create the challenge they wanted to make. So Itsuno and his team pieced together low level AI, so as to allow them the ability to have a large number of enemies on screen, without a drop in the 60fps. Not only that, but when pieced together, they would amplify the difficulty by quite a bit. It is very much so like chess, and each level of difficulty would resemble a novice (but still decent), all the way up to a master. The ingenius thought to lessen the AI, so they could actually create what they wanted for the final product is actually quite literally what you are talking about, but now they do not innovate in general in gaming.
This very thought process is what the golden age of gaming was in a nutshell, and not fast approaching upgrades in hardware. The bunk excuse of things moving faster at that time compared to now is garbage, as an old 2005 game still mechanically bests mosts games to date, and only needs a update for the camera, and a slight facelift for that little extra. The way most devs are either forced to follow, or choose to follow in game design leaves so much space for innovation, that it's honestly more of the industry than the devs at fault. Capcom was Crapcom until recent years, and finally we got DMC5 after years of wait, and since Capcom has backed off its stupid time frames for the devs cycle, we got a great game.
Now I'm not sure about his other games as I never played them, but DMC3 still holds up as one of the best action games to date, and that is 15 years after its release. So there are other devs who do the same, but might get locked out of their creativity as the company might force unreasonable deadlines, causing a lack of innovation. After all, Itsuno made DMC4 as well, and it has the blemish of being unfinished since it was given to small an amount of development time for such a game.
If I hear the word "parallel" one more time, I'm gonna have an aneurysm
Awesome video my friend. This game always gets the shaft when it’s compared to the other MGS games, but I have so much respect for it. It’s sometimes not as fun as the others, but it’s a work of art just as much as the games before it.
I think they're all badass. Even MGS5 it felt out of place compared to the series but it's a lot of fun
All these impressive tech.... all of it it boiled down to me and my friends going "SUNLIGHT!"
I´m still waiting for a remaster or remake of this game 12 years later :(
Florian Stoica the game looks beautiful in 2020! What kind or remaster u looking for
@@LeMaq95Well to begin with a PC port would be nice and 120+ fps would steal my eye. Higher detail world, particles, textures, shadows, illumination, everything that the game can be. As i said, it´s just a wish :(
Florian Stoica you’re right about the frame rate
@@SmiFF_ Human eyes max at 60fps
@@SuperiorNo1
Plz shut ur mouth, our eyes aren't video cameras, we don't perceive shit in fps
Man, this is downright fascinating information, you caught details I missed and I played MGS4 through twelve times. Amazing work.
only few games are made with efforts like these and all games belongs to Kojima ! I love all MGS series for its story, characters, gameplay and there was something even deeper in this game that has influenced our minds back then.
I imagine working under Kojma.
It must be a nightmare but yet most important achieve in your life.
subbing, thank you for covering my favorite game
Too bad they didn't seem to ever consult a different military guy though. Snakes movements look weird and stunted, exactly like that military guys did.
One of the most expertly crafted action games I've ever played. The gameplay absolutely holds up to this day. Also, the way the story was told was wonderful. If only MGSV did the same...
What Kojima did in MGSV for the cut scenes in Ground Zeroes and the beginning of MGSV was just fucking criminal
i hope not too many people take this video seriously - i came in here looking for actual hidden details and gameplay mechanics and all i got was a 30 minute long ad (for an old game?) of someone misunderstanding (and promoting) buzzword usage and attributing many things to the wrong cause
Around the halfway point you really started padding the video. PC gaming had 3D positional audio back in the 90's. Plenty of games like Half Life 2 took pictures of areas to use as reference and used photo realistic graphics on recreations of physical objects. None of this stuff was a revolution exclusive to MGS4
I played this game soooo much. Sooo many times would play it again.
Absolute favorite game of all time. Played it about 20 times over and over, even it's silent take on real world war economy and the powers who profit from it, while of course excluding the dirtywork contractors. Just a fantastic game, a Masterpiece even.
Many thanks for putting this together. Awesome treat.
This truely was the greatest MGS, from the menus to the soundtrack
Gameplay wise metal gear solid five is amazing but I’d be lying if I said I don’t miss sneaking through actual battle fields with multiple armies going to war all around you
Nowadays games aren't made with such effort and quality control. I can remember very few games where shadows don't flicker, and that is seriously important
This feels like it covers more of the game's development history than its mechanics, but it was an interesting watch nonetheless.
This video is excellent, thank you.
Part of why V's open world disappointed me so much is that I expected there to be warzones like the MGS4 ones where you can sneak through, just on a larger scale. Instead there was, well, nothing. Except mice to catch
Thank you for making this video!!! Long live MGS4
Guys METAL GEAR ONLINE 2 MGS4 is playable since 2017
Follow this tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/G9d4ij88XME/v-deo.html
YOU DONT NEED A HACKED PS3 to play it!
Solid Old that’s amazing
MGS3 is a PS3 game in a PS2.
MGS4 is a PS4 game in a PS3.
Death Stranding is a game released before SARS-COV2 lockdowns and the rise of deliveries.
MGS2 is a game reflecting upon memes and fake news released a decade or two before the proliferation of such things.
At this point Kojima seems to have visions of the future.
You just have to reinterpret the old technology in terms of the new.
Did anyone here have a PMC soldier ask you "friend or Foe"? I swear it happened once and I never could get it to trigger again :/
In the minute 1:21, in the left we can see an old PC processor, and to the right, a PS4 processor.
I can’t wait for msg master collection volume 2, im literally going to buy it for this one game.
I feel you
UA-cam recommends does it again amazing channel and content more MGS!
Came for the secret mechanics, stayed for the documentary. Great vid.
Also, just finished the video. That was an incredible analysis with your stellar presentation and style, as usual! A lot of things I wasn't even aware of, like the smells, and lighting effecting Snake. And wrapping it in with parallelism is as nice a touch of Kojima. Well done dude.
MGS4 content in 2019? You’ve got yourself a subscriber!
The tech and creativity was great but unfortunately I think the actual game was quite short and linear. The levels make it look like they are big or sprawling but at best you got for a fork in the path. The 2ns half of the game is smaller. I remember being amazed at how fast I could complete it when I skipped cutscenes, which despite all the talk about how seamless they were, they were actually the most annoying and interrupted gameplay more than other game to date. Even at the start you literally walk 2 steps and then go under a truck before another cutscenes. They should have had more levels than cutscenes.
If you dont like kojimas story telling you should probably play a different series
You're right, but, there are still some open-ended environments there which give you a lot of freedom in how you can accomplish your objectives.
Currently playing MGS4 again for more than the 15th time and it still amazes me how technichaly flawless it is. From camera work in cutscenes to gameplay mechanics, character models (wich are easily the best on that generation), the physics, sound and visual effects and many many other details, the work put in this game is just incredible. I still consider it one of the best games out there for the massive amount of quality it has.
fight night champion 3 looks great too
This game is a good example that mechanics isn't enough, you also need a solid implementation for them to shine. That's why mgs3 > mgs4 > mgsV
I think the linear Metal Gears had MUCH tighter and more focused design than The Phantom Pain.
@@martinramirez21 I totally agree. It blows my mind when people say "Yeah mgsV plot is garbage but gameplay wise it's the best!". I think when they say it they mean it again has the most mecanics, I wouldn't believe anyone can prefer playing through mgsv instead of mgs3. MGS3 has such a great pace, such great bosses, so much to offer while also being very focused
This was a really good video man good job
6:07 Haven't played in YEARS and my muscle memory remembers to lay flat is triangle lol wow
Yup same here!
You've put a lot of hard working into making this video and delivering your point of view with great in video example. I wish I had this level skill of being able to deliver my point of view as clear as you. Thank you for your time and passion.
MGS 4 is, in a way. Kojima magnum opus, his master piece. MGS V is nice n all, but MGS4 though!
If mgs come back will come back as this...
Rex vs Ray, Solid riding with Big Mama, Big Boss killing Zero, Shadow Moses... MGS4 is chalked full so many memorable moments on top of tying the franchise together. And didn't miss a beat on the franchises commentary on the psychological implications of war as well as a stronger emphasis on the speculative evolution of the war economy. Venom snakes chapter being the only real loose end, MGS4 was a love letter to the franchise. It even came with a complete downloadable digital glossary or Blu-ray if you got the limited edition.
Nice to see some appreciation for MGS4. The MGS2 elitist fanbase has really done a number on this game's reputation in the years since it's release. It's too bad the internet is absorbed by the zero sum game mentality. It's not enough to just like a game and leave it at that, you have to teardown anything that can be compared to it.
"The future of games is in hidden details and complexity".
Mans was spot-on.
"Snake would bring stealth to the battlefield, something never before seen in a sneaking game". Well, aside from Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, which had stealth-action gameplay in the midst of battlefield back in 2005.
You're talking about a derivative stealth game with battlefield-based set pieces. CT was still at bottom in the same vein as previous SC titles. MGS4 integrated warfighting and stealth like no game in the genre before it. There's simply no comparison.
At no point in CT do you sneak through an active Battlefield with two to three distinct factions fighting it out that you can help or hinder.
@Greig91 Chaos Theory is such a cool game. I remember playing it with my friend when we were like 8 and couldn't even navigate past the first couple levels XD good times lol.
Futurasound Productions Chaous Theory still rules, it might not be as grandiose as any Metal Gear Solid game, but in terms of actual accessibility and gameplay, it far surpasses its MGS contemporaries. For how amazing MGS 2 and MGS 3 are, their controls are unintuitive and actually sneaking around feels cumbersome. Unless you’ve played the games several times and know exactly what what to do, you’re constantly setting off alerts and stumbling around enemies.
In contrast, Chaos Theory plays like a game released this year (I’m talking only about the controls). In fact, MGS 4 and 5 control very similar to Chaos Theory, and I don’t think it’s because Kojima Productions simply copied Ubisoft, it’s just that Chaos Theory had the first great control setup for navigating a 3-D environment.
Like you said, the MGS games were limited by their roots as a 2D series, the controls for MGS 1,2 and 3 make much more sense as controls for a 2D game. Splinter Cell got a head start because it was designed from the start to be a 3-D game.
As for the level in Seoul, it’s the first stealth level in an active battlefield, but by technicality only. Because of technical limitations, the “battle” is largely just set dressing, its more akin to a Disney theme park ride rather than a battle fought by the AI with NPCs. But Chaos Theory still slaps with its excellent level design.
The blu ray documentary that came with my edition was freaking great. Such an incredible game and spent so many hours online after the game itself. What an era.