Redwolf Dogrocket I would dearly love to see an episode about Malcador on this channel. It would be amazing, to say the least (Malcador is my favorite Heresy-era character). I’m excited every single time I see a notification for a new episode here, but I’ll be Extra Super Excited if I ever see one that focuses on The Sigillite. Here’s hoping!
Honored Remembrancer, when first I listened to this record, I worried about your health. Only when the subject matter became clear did the frailty in your voice reveal not sickness, but terror at the edge of heresy you walked. We are humbled that you think us strong enough in the Emperor's Service to hear this history.
Praise the Emperor for giving us such a historian as this one, for he would walk to the edge of Heresy himself so that the Emperor's holy song could be sung!
The Voynich Manuscript is actually referenced as an ancient Terran manuscript in 40k lore too. I've always loved the little callbacks to things from our time.
@@thomaskovacs5094 I think it was originaly Angron's role . I'd say one might have been female and other might have been the only fraction not represented among Primarchs: psychic NULL.
So glad about the implication that the narrator is Guilliman's remembrancer. These are a masterwork, no need to thank us when you earned the following through good work
I’ve been thinking about this a lot, and you’ve aligned information for me quite clearly. I’m quite convinced that one was afflicted by the Rangdan cerebvores, bodies becoming not their own, but their minds and voice may still have be loyal, which made the task of the Space Wolves putting them down utterly, and completely, a tragedy. Such a flaw could never risk being known. But when you said “innocent” in describing the other, something I never knew, it became clear to me, it was suicide. The far flung future is a grimdark place, suffering is at an almost insurmountable level within the imperium, yet suicide is a gaping hole, and I don’t mean suicide from failure, I mean suicide from depression, suicide from having an existential reckoning with the reality of the galaxy. Grimdark is a place where innocence can’t survive. Both of these are tragic deaths, turning from the emperor, but in ways you can never have any contempt for them.
I think with recent revelations of Subject 11 being beneath the Imperial Palace, I want to say suicide is unlikely, but entirely possible. Perhaps his corpse being down there, suicide from the mutations, the abject horror he was experiencing as he traversed the galaxy.
The Cain & Abel story came to mind when he mentioned the one being innocent & the other a probable asshole. maybe they killed each other? maybe it was a gene defect that the cerebvores took advantage of? who knows.. but thinking about such a great mystery is enjoyable.
More information has surfaced about what the lost Primarch's crime was. In newly discovered lore, Malcador admits to Guillium that he alone was responsible for 'dealing' and then 'erasing' the two. For their crime threated everything, from the Great Crusade to what fundamentally the EoM was trying to do for humanity. But Malcador also confirms what many have suspected even then, Malcador was going to execute the remaining/surviving Astartes of the 2nd and 11th legions. But Guillium and Dorn successfully petitioned the EoM to spare them, for they committed no crime. Suggesting that the rumors about the sudden increase in size of the Ultramarines right before the Horus Heresy was because they did absorbed the remaining/surviving Astarts of the 2nd and 11th legions was true. But it also suggests so did the Imperial Fists, it was just the most apparent in the Ultramarines.
The Chamber at The End of Memory was a great story that way. Also, look at the skulls in the chair arms in that painting of Malcador used as the cover of the same-titled book. The skulls are numbered.
you have a very different way of doing lore and I truly like it. In fact you are one of the few youtubers that make me want to listen to their interpretations of lore even if I've heard it elsewhere. The fact that you do all these as an in universe character is great and for that devotion to character you deserve more subs, let alone how good you are at explaining lore.
@@OculusImperia I 'ad me Mekboyz tap inna da humie channelz jus' so's I could listen ter ye prattle. Good job, guv'na, I 'ad no idea humie history 'ad so much fightin' in, WAAAGH heh heh
Malcador's reply to Dorne, oddly enough, gives me the impression those two primarchs lost to redaction are in fact alive. The order to forget the possibilty of their aid against Horus implies they could have provided it. I wonder if they were exiled for some major failure outside of the universe itself, perhaps given a penitive order to bring the Truth beyond its boundaries
@@Duppyman695 That would be very odd if so. The remaining primarchs were ignorant of chaos and the warp, so the two could not have fallen like those who did in the Heresy, and even those who transgressed against the Truth were not totally redacted like the two lost primarchs.
By the Emperor, this is probably your best video so far and definitely the best video on account of Lost Primarchs! The narrative, the tone, the roleplaying (as historitor-investigator allowed by Lord Regent to explore on this matter), the information, all awesome!
Loved it.... I love the way facts are dragged up from the depths and still the adept sounds vague and quite worried he may get caught. This is why I support you through Patreon. Fantastic as always!
Interesting that many of the primarchs feel a real mix of emotions at the abandonment of their brother's memory. We know Lorgar, in some way is responsible for the death of one of them. We also know Horus, Magnus, Alpharius, Lorgar and even some of the loyal primarchs, like Guilliman, are bitter over the treatment of their lost brothers memory. Horus comes to blows with Malcador over this. So it's interesting to me that the brothers feel differently to seemingly the rest of the imperium.
The passion that shines through in your work is just incredible my friend. Warhammer 40k is truly the best fictional mythology by far,for so many reasons that can be listed in a single comment.Again though thank you and I am just in awe of your talent and passion. The Emperor Protects!
In one of the books, Leman Rus said it was the "Great Tragedy". I only wonder why the Emperor and Malcador didn’t like to talk about the loss of these two? Maybe because they were guilty of it and were ashamed
They were. No one is really happy about having to expunge the two. Especially the Emperor and Malcador I assume as they've both shown immense love for the Primarchs
@@ironduke5058 It's scholarly extrapolation that has a far stronger basis than what you said. Additionally, I was exposded to the because it is the pet theory of both Rick Priestly (the creator of the space marines in an IRL sense) and Gav Thorpe (another person who helped create 40k and was the lead loresmith on the rebuild of the setting for 3e).
I’ve spent the better part of my weekend listening to your videos. Just utter peaceful, puts me in one the happiest places I could imagine - undoubtedly the best form of escapism. Thank you for sharing your Story Telling talent with us.
This series is amazing! I haven't actually played 40k in a decade, but still love the lore. I've been catching up with your series while driving and working, it's the perfect balance of knowledge and exposition.
The II Primarch was the 3rd found. Horus first his Warmaster to be, Russ 2nd his executioner, then II. He filled his most important roles you could argue. One to lead his armies and the next to be the sanction held over Primarch. What was the next role...3rd longest in time with the Emperor. The theories can get soooo good. Great stuff!! Love your vids!
YOU are the one putting in blood, sweat. and tears, not us subscribers. It's us that should be thanking you Outside a few subscribers pitching a few dollars on Patreon, this is ALL YOU, Oculus. We humble Subscribers are just pleased we get to be along for the ride. Getting to enjoy the fruits of YOUR masterful command of writing, acting, and the labor. of love you pour into this channel.
Wow! 10k subscribers! That is great. But not undeserved. Your channel is amazing. I watch your videos the second I see them. Your channel is gonna continue to grow and flourish if you keep putting out content like this. 😊
Amazing work. I find this channel, well before 1k. You are one of the best 40k more channels in terms of quality. The art, music and not to be overly fawning by your voice-work is absolutely stellar quality. Further, of those few that have attempted an in world perspective, I personally feel you are the first to be genuinely successful at it. In short, you deserve every sub, and far more.
Great work as always. Also, probably one of the best unknown parts of the 40k lore. Especially with how much recent lore has been added due to the Horus heresy novels. In which some of the novels come so close to mentioning something about the lost Primarchs, but still give us nothing.
First off, huge congrats for the milestone! and I have to say that this is by far not only the absolute best warhammer lore channel, (the content and atmosphere allow no competitors) but one of the very best warhammer channels et al. I look forward to each episode like a favourite tv show. Carry on the smashing work!!
At 12:52, do you think Malcador misspoke, or it was deliberate phrasing? Dorn muses (in response to having 13 Primarchs remaining loyal) "Would that it were fifteen," And Malcador replies: "Do not even think it, my friend," Malcador warns. "They are lost to us forever." Why would Malcador need to "warn" Dorn of anything if nothing could be done about it? He's not condemning the thought of two dead brothers, he's warning against Dorn thinking about having two more Primarchs in the field. Also, not "Dead," or "Gone," he specifically says "Lost" and "Forever." As if something could happen to change that in the future. If they were truly dead wouldn't Malcador simply say "They are lost to us." It implies heavily that the Lost Two are not actually dead, and both Dorn and Malcador know their location, and that it may be possible to retrieve them.
Begs the question then, if what they did wasn't bad enough to warrant death but some sort of exile, what exactly did they do then to warrant a complete silence about who they were? If it's so bad that no one talks about them, surely they would have been executed?
Specifically, Malcador's warning is against *thinking* of the return of the Lost Primarchs. This implies far more than the possibility that the Lost Primarchs are alive. This implies that thinking about them or especially about their return is by itself sufficient to risk undoing the Edict of Obliteration and suffering whatever consequences the Edict was meant to prevent. This implies either that the original powers of the Primarchs (or whatever they became) is based in the knowledge other sapient beings have of them, or that the threat they pose to the Imperium can only be staved off by near-absolute ignorance of them. The intersection of the Lost Primarchs with the mystery at the core of the Rangdan Xenocides leads me to believe that the Xenocides either revealed that the Lost held psychic powers previously unknown to the Emperor, or that the Xenocides somehow transformed them into some kind of universal psychic threat.
For what it's worth, there is a Subject XI in the Custodes vaults. Prior to them being scattered by Chaos and named, all of the Primarchs were called "Subject" followed by their future legion's number. It's also mentioned that all of these cells need to be warded and escape is always a threat. My head canon is that the 11th Primarch knew and understood Chaos prior to the Emperor finding him. The Emperor forced him to swear himself to silence, one that was broken. Once it was broken, he was recalled to Terra and thrown in a cell. He was forgotten during the Horus Heresy, and the death of Malcador as well as Emperor being put on the Throne, no one knew he was there save for the Custodes.
For the record I've listened to your dulcet tones for probably around 400 nights of the last years. The ambience is perfect. The presentation is litterally the best of any 40k lore channel I'm subscribed to. Of which there are a dozen including 40k theory and 40 facts. Yet these I listen to time and again. Baby geniusing myself with 40k lore before bed haha. Not to mention when someone gets into 40k this is the first place I send them. So much love my friend. This is exactly what I would want to create if I did it myself. So well researched. The information presented perfectly to mine ear... kitty attack and all ^.^ My favourite remains the video about old Earth but to be frank they are all amazing. Thank you a million for these. I've suffered from such bad insomnia my doctor gave me a lifetime script of sleeping pills. These videos have in actuality and litterally been a lifesaver to me. As sleeping pills shouldn't be taken every day, I'll often set up 3-4 videos. By the fourth I'm typically asleep and if not I'll just keep loading sets until I get there haha > . < So again and finally... thank you. I am grateful beyond words and as soon as I'm back in better health will be jumping on that Patreon. Finally... BUTTSTUFFKAIJU FOR LIFE!!! Always brings a smile to my face.... that others want to change it?! Screw em all and let em grow up and step outta their comfort zones :P It's good for them. 😈😇 Cheers! If ever you end in Toronto Dinner and drinks are on me! That's not a joke either fyi o.o :P
Genuine thanks for taking the time to show so much love here. This was absolutely heartwarming to read, and very affirming. Delighted you like the work so much!
The Lost Primarchs can only be unlocked by beating the Great Crusade on the hardest difficulty and without The Emperor of Man's assistance at the Battle of Ullanor. You'll unlock two hidden worlds and from there find the two Lost Primarchs and get the secret ending to the Horus Heresy.
I absolutely love your 3rd person imperial archivists role in making lore content. so passionate. also honest due to realism. I feel the same way with your lore vids as I do when I read ADB. Keep it up!
I like the theory that one of them, possibly the Lost (the 2nd Legion) disappeared into the Hadex Anomaly and since its a temporal anomaly they could come back in the closing days of the war for the galaxy and we could see all of the Primarchs reunited somehow
Truly amazing work. The writing,, The editing, Your speech, The way you go into great detail about the lore and the dedication you put into this video was both incredible and inspiring. I admit that i never heard of this channel before this video but now that i have seen your well crafted content, it is obvious to me that you are truly passionate about what you both say and do. you most definitely deserve more subscribers and I hope you gain many more in time. Thank you my friend
I found your channel just recently but man I LOVE your style. I love Arch, 40k Theories, and Luetin, but your angle is so unique and engrossing. Thank you for your work.
You are a great story teller (no mean feat), who so obviously does more than read from a sheet of collated data. I can't speak for others but that's why i come here. - From a new subcriber :)
@@OculusImperia It's the kind of topic that even the chosen remembrancer of the Lord Regent would find difficult to speak around. That you found it tough to write out of character as well is strangely appropriate.
Wow the whole immersion in the start of the video and how you assume the character is a really witty way to go about it. You've got yourself a loyal subscriber o humble historian of the imperium
10/10, would commit heresy again Thanks for this awesome video! Great job doing your own RP! Found this thanks to google recommendations on my phone and now I'm so happy!
Congratulations Remembrancer ! The Warhammer 30k/40k community is taking note of your great work & it is assured that your subscriptions shall rise ever upward ....Ok, that was a fantastic topic to cover to celebrate 10k subscribers & to my knowledge is the best presentation of all the facts regarding the missing Primarchs. And for the fact that you continue in your style of presentation it is my ( & a lot of other viewers ) sincerest wish that GW put you on the payroll to make all your videos part of the canon, as it most certainly feels like it is every time you post a new video . TY for you splendid lore videos & I will await eagerly your next installment .
Of course, this is the meta purpose of the lost and forgotten. To allow players to make their own legions or head canon up, and have it as likely as any other. More interesting is the fact that whatever did happen to these two primarchs, it was treated as graver than an actual crippling betrayal to the greatest enemy of the Imperium. As bad as being assimilated to the Rangda is, is it worse than half the legions and their primarchs joining the Archenemy, destroying humanity’s destiny, and crippling the Emperor to millennia of anguish? Hard to imagine so. To say nothing of what potentially the other offense could have been.
looking through your videos and i must say i do admire the way you present the info in universe while also showing some this universe perspective not by breaking character but by the arrangement and way of the presentation
I now have two go to 40k lore yourself and Luetin, you both are doing the emperor's work, thank you for bringing the emporer light to us all. And in normal speak thanks man I could listen to these all day (I do when cleaning)
I have never played nor probably will every play the game, but these videos are great. I just enjoy the stories. Started reading books from the universe as a result. Good stuff
Indeed, that was a good call, loyal citizen. He even listed Lorgar among the traitor primarchs! The author of our most revered holy text! My local priest of the Saviour Emperor already has me doing penance for even having heard this blasphemy, and has passed a report along to his superiors.
I fall asleep listening to you mate. Your voice and the background music is wonderfully relaxing. You can tune in for the content or zone out and the sounds alone are pleasant to the ear :)
Absolutely beautiful reading there bud its just a shame their isn't more info on the two lost but regardless you sold it well as a mystery and a mystery that will not be solved any time soon (sadly). Keep it up bud Amazing stuff:D
One interesting thing is that the other Primarchs cannot remember their names. Apparently, all of them have met them at least once, Horus surely spent a decent chunk of time with them and should remember who they are, yet their faces and names cannot be grasped. There's a psychic lock enforced on anyone who might leak their existence and it seems to be the case even after ten thousand years, and there's only person who can do that... the Emperor is STILL censoring the existence of the Lost Primarchs even as he sits rotting and dying on his death throne. Wonder what would happen when he dies, would people suddenly realize it is weird the II and the XI Legion don't exist? Would the still existing Primarchs suddenly remember them in full?
For me, the most amusing part about the 2d and 11th are their oldest designer's notes. 20 groups of Marines, half loyal, half rebels, with 9 paint schemes for each side. Oh, the missing ones? Those are for gamers to make their own homebrew paint jobs, one for each side. From that simple GW decision, all of this speculation comes.
What I couldn't understand there was making a chapter under either legion and then the whole weight of the 9 legions/chapters and their descendents coming after your freshly painted miniatures and held to repent by a standard human Inquisitor🤷♂️
ALWAYS looking forward to your posts. (Even more so now as everything seems to have gone to shit in 5 weeks time) Thanks for your hard work & research as well as your delivery style. Excellent
Welcome Back!! Ive missed your Content!! I say dont worry if someone already covered something I really like how you do these. Ill relisten and rewatch them all!! Keep it up!!
your work is amazing and I love all of your content, it has heart and emotion in it and it feels like you are invested in it and enjoying it. thank you for all your work
HERESY! But also, thank you so much. I've been wallowing in 40k lore since I was about ten years old, so nearly twenty years now, and you've perfectly expressed the voice that I've always had in my head. Amazing work.
Just wanted to say the first video i watched from you as far as i can remember, was the one about the warp. And I have to say, the way you talk in your videos, makes me feel like i am part of a inquisitor's information retinue researching about subjets of interest on order of Terra itself listening to dataslates mainteined for centuries recordered by an adept historian of the imperium. Awesome channel is all i'm saying.
Big E: "We don't talk about them."
Custodes: "Yes, but why not my lord?"
Big E: *"BECAUSE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM."*
"Yay."
Dadornable.
They talked about "Fight Club"
I think I speak for all of your subscribers when I say- thank YOU from the bottom of our hearts. Your work is incredible.
Agreed!
POETRY IN ACTION.
Redwolf Dogrocket I would dearly love to see an episode about Malcador on this channel. It would be amazing, to say the least (Malcador is my favorite Heresy-era character). I’m excited every single time I see a notification for a new episode here, but I’ll be Extra Super Excited if I ever see one that focuses on The Sigillite. Here’s hoping!
You do speak for me at least
I wish he'd turn down the music, tbh
Honored Remembrancer, when first I listened to this record, I worried about your health. Only when the subject matter became clear did the frailty in your voice reveal not sickness, but terror at the edge of heresy you walked. We are humbled that you think us strong enough in the Emperor's Service to hear this history.
All Glory to
His name!!
Praise the Emperor for giving us such a historian as this one, for he would walk to the edge of Heresy himself so that the Emperor's holy song could be sung!
The Lord of the Rings as "an ancient Terran mythic cycle" within Warhammer 40000 universe? I like the idea!
The Voynich Manuscript is actually referenced as an ancient Terran manuscript in 40k lore too. I've always loved the little callbacks to things from our time.
Missed the reference ;(
The founders were super fans of tolkien so it's super apt
Maybe they were emperor forbid... Pacifist 😂
@@thomaskovacs5094 I think it was originaly Angron's role . I'd say one might have been female and other might have been the only fraction not represented among Primarchs: psychic NULL.
So glad about the implication that the narrator is Guilliman's remembrancer. These are a masterwork, no need to thank us when you earned the following through good work
I’ve been thinking about this a lot, and you’ve aligned information for me quite clearly.
I’m quite convinced that one was afflicted by the Rangdan cerebvores, bodies becoming not their own, but their minds and voice may still have be loyal, which made the task of the Space Wolves putting them down utterly, and completely, a tragedy. Such a flaw could never risk being known.
But when you said “innocent” in describing the other, something I never knew, it became clear to me, it was suicide.
The far flung future is a grimdark place, suffering is at an almost insurmountable level within the imperium, yet suicide is a gaping hole, and I don’t mean suicide from failure, I mean suicide from depression, suicide from having an existential reckoning with the reality of the galaxy.
Grimdark is a place where innocence can’t survive.
Both of these are tragic deaths, turning from the emperor, but in ways you can never have any contempt for them.
I think with recent revelations of Subject 11 being beneath the Imperial Palace, I want to say suicide is unlikely, but entirely possible. Perhaps his corpse being down there, suicide from the mutations, the abject horror he was experiencing as he traversed the galaxy.
@@DemigodoftheSea
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WHAT??
The Cain & Abel story came to mind when he mentioned the one being innocent & the other a probable asshole.
maybe they killed each other? maybe it was a gene defect that the cerebvores took advantage of?
who knows.. but thinking about such a great mystery is enjoyable.
More information has surfaced about what the lost Primarch's crime was. In newly discovered lore, Malcador admits to Guillium that he alone was responsible for 'dealing' and then 'erasing' the two. For their crime threated everything, from the Great Crusade to what fundamentally the EoM was trying to do for humanity. But Malcador also confirms what many have suspected even then, Malcador was going to execute the remaining/surviving Astartes of the 2nd and 11th legions. But Guillium and Dorn successfully petitioned the EoM to spare them, for they committed no crime. Suggesting that the rumors about the sudden increase in size of the Ultramarines right before the Horus Heresy was because they did absorbed the remaining/surviving Astarts of the 2nd and 11th legions was true. But it also suggests so did the Imperial Fists, it was just the most apparent in the Ultramarines.
The Chamber at The End of Memory was a great story that way.
Also, look at the skulls in the chair arms in that painting of Malcador used as the cover of the same-titled book.
The skulls are numbered.
you have a very different way of doing lore and I truly like it. In fact you are one of the few youtubers that make me want to listen to their interpretations of lore even if I've heard it elsewhere. The fact that you do all these as an in universe character is great and for that devotion to character you deserve more subs, let alone how good you are at explaining lore.
Thanks so much for the kind words man :) these mean the world!
@@OculusImperia I 'ad me Mekboyz tap inna da humie channelz jus' so's I could listen ter ye prattle. Good job, guv'na, I 'ad no idea humie history 'ad so much fightin' in, WAAAGH heh heh
Oculus Imperia. Setting the Gold standard for lore videos. None can come close to the level of detail you put into your videos!
The Emperor has truly blessed us with a fine Remembrancer.
"We do not talk about them."
"Yes, but why not, my Lord?"
*"BECAUSE WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT THEM"*
- trying to block screen -" NOTHING TO SEE HERE we aren't supposed to talk about them !"
You remember me, don’t bloody look away.
sigmar heldenhammer don't you have some souls to hammer into space marines or something ?
Fucking damnit Sanguinius.
Just how long do you plan to keep their true fate a secret?
Sooner or later the information will leak.
Brother. I’m still around. As you can see there’s still some knowledge of me floating around. YOU’LL NEVER ERASE ME CHICKEN WINGS!
@@thesecondprimarch7694 😳😵
Malcador's reply to Dorne, oddly enough, gives me the impression those two primarchs lost to redaction are in fact alive. The order to forget the possibilty of their aid against Horus implies they could have provided it. I wonder if they were exiled for some major failure outside of the universe itself, perhaps given a penitive order to bring the Truth beyond its boundaries
Intresting theory! Personally I think they killed to keep the Emperors lie alive.
@@Duppyman695 That would be very odd if so. The remaining primarchs were ignorant of chaos and the warp, so the two could not have fallen like those who did in the Heresy, and even those who transgressed against the Truth were not totally redacted like the two lost primarchs.
By the Emperor, this is probably your best video so far and definitely the best video on account of Lost Primarchs!
The narrative, the tone, the roleplaying (as historitor-investigator allowed by Lord Regent to explore on this matter), the information, all awesome!
The Emperor Provides!!
Loved it.... I love the way facts are dragged up from the depths and still the adept sounds vague and quite worried he may get caught. This is why I support you through Patreon. Fantastic as always!
Thank you so much for the support and the love!
Interesting that many of the primarchs feel a real mix of emotions at the abandonment of their brother's memory. We know Lorgar, in some way is responsible for the death of one of them. We also know Horus, Magnus, Alpharius, Lorgar and even some of the loyal primarchs, like Guilliman, are bitter over the treatment of their lost brothers memory. Horus comes to blows with Malcador over this.
So it's interesting to me that the brothers feel differently to seemingly the rest of the imperium.
The passion that shines through in your work is just incredible my friend.
Warhammer 40k is truly the best fictional mythology by far,for so many reasons that can be listed in a single comment.Again though thank you and I am just in awe of your talent and passion.
The Emperor Protects!
Oh it’s you. Hey Bat’s. You still kicking. Me Horus and 11 are planning a big tea party with Malal and the squats In the retconian. Wanna come?
Dude im blown away by the effort, dedication, and research you put in your videos.
In one of the books, Leman Rus said it was the "Great Tragedy". I only wonder why the Emperor and Malcador didn’t like to talk about the loss of these two? Maybe because they were guilty of it and were ashamed
Maybe they were killed by Xenos after landing on Xenos Worlds?
They were. No one is really happy about having to expunge the two. Especially the Emperor and Malcador I assume as they've both shown immense love for the Primarchs
@@ironduke5058 One was lost to the Rangda, and the the other to mutation.
@@stevemanart Those are theories, no one knows what happened.
@@ironduke5058 It's scholarly extrapolation that has a far stronger basis than what you said. Additionally, I was exposded to the because it is the pet theory of both Rick Priestly (the creator of the space marines in an IRL sense) and Gav Thorpe (another person who helped create 40k and was the lead loresmith on the rebuild of the setting for 3e).
I’ve spent the better part of my weekend listening to your videos. Just utter peaceful, puts me in one the happiest places I could imagine - undoubtedly the best form of escapism. Thank you for sharing your Story Telling talent with us.
This series is amazing! I haven't actually played 40k in a decade, but still love the lore. I've been catching up with your series while driving and working, it's the perfect balance of knowledge and exposition.
Ave Imperator, Gloria in Exelcis Terra
Ave!
Ave!
Ave!
The II Primarch was the 3rd found. Horus first his Warmaster to be, Russ 2nd his executioner, then II. He filled his most important roles you could argue. One to lead his armies and the next to be the sanction held over Primarch. What was the next role...3rd longest in time with the Emperor. The theories can get soooo good. Great stuff!! Love your vids!
I feel like the Blood Ravens are the leftovers of one of the 2 lost primarchs
@@freerichie25 The Blood Ravens are probably Thousand Sons descendents.
@@jonathangrafton4016 This. The Blood Ravens are very likely Thousand Sun loyalists who didn't join the rest of their brethren when they rebelled.
Nice mention of The Rangdan Xenocide. It's one of the best event snippets of the Great Crusade era.
YOU are the one putting in blood, sweat. and tears, not us subscribers. It's us that should be thanking you
Outside a few subscribers pitching a few dollars on Patreon, this is ALL YOU, Oculus.
We humble Subscribers are just pleased we get to be along for the ride. Getting to enjoy the fruits of YOUR masterful command of writing, acting, and the labor. of love you pour into this channel.
Me: listens to this audio log. Inquisition:Inquisition open up
"I can feel it in the earth i can see it in the water. I can smell it in the air..." Aeldari Seer of Crafworld Loth Lorien. Hehehe
Quoting LoTR when talking about 40K. Nerdery level: extreme. So awesome!
Finding this channel today after bleeding Arch and Baldermort and Leutin dry has been a fantastic win. Fellow Irish man too.
Your work, attention to detail and overall presentation is second to none and I implore that you keep up your God Emperor favored work.
Not stopping anytime soon! Thanks for all the support :)
Wow! 10k subscribers! That is great. But not undeserved. Your channel is amazing. I watch your videos the second I see them. Your channel is gonna continue to grow and flourish if you keep putting out content like this. 😊
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Thank you so much, for the comment and the support!
Oculus Imperia you are most welcome. Your videos are inspirational to us youtube creators and hobbyists alike. 😊
Redwolf Dogrocket totally. In fact i know just the place to share it. 😊
Redwolf Dogrocket lol that cool. I am a big Arch fan too. I know he does devide opinion though.
Amazing work. I find this channel, well before 1k. You are one of the best 40k more channels in terms of quality. The art, music and not to be overly fawning by your voice-work is absolutely stellar quality.
Further, of those few that have attempted an in world perspective, I personally feel you are the first to be genuinely successful at it.
In short, you deserve every sub, and far more.
Great work as always.
Also, probably one of the best unknown parts of the 40k lore.
Especially with how much recent lore has been added due to the Horus heresy novels. In which some of the novels come so close to mentioning something about the lost Primarchs, but still give us nothing.
First off, huge congrats for the milestone! and I have to say that this is by far not only the absolute best warhammer lore channel, (the content and atmosphere allow no competitors) but one of the very best warhammer channels et al. I look forward to each episode like a favourite tv show. Carry on the smashing work!!
This is WITHOUT a doubt my all time favorite vid. Your voice acting and script is beyond reproach.
Well done Sir
Thank you so much!
You are one of the Top-3 Remembrancers on UA-cam. Keep up the great work.
*sign of Aquila*
This is some real content! Love the narrative styling, takes a lore video like this to a whole other level.
Wow, you're awesome at this. I hope your channel continues to grow. You're on a level with channels like Luetin, 40k Theories etc.
At 12:52, do you think Malcador misspoke, or it was deliberate phrasing?
Dorn muses (in response to having 13 Primarchs remaining loyal) "Would that it were fifteen,"
And Malcador replies:
"Do not even think it, my friend," Malcador warns. "They are lost to us forever."
Why would Malcador need to "warn" Dorn of anything if nothing could be done about it? He's not condemning the thought of two dead brothers, he's warning against Dorn thinking about having two more Primarchs in the field.
Also, not "Dead," or "Gone," he specifically says "Lost" and "Forever." As if something could happen to change that in the future. If they were truly dead wouldn't Malcador simply say "They are lost to us."
It implies heavily that the Lost Two are not actually dead, and both Dorn and Malcador know their location, and that it may be possible to retrieve them.
Begs the question then, if what they did wasn't bad enough to warrant death but some sort of exile, what exactly did they do then to warrant a complete silence about who they were? If it's so bad that no one talks about them, surely they would have been executed?
@@MrFredstt well, there are the skulls carved with II and XI on Malcador's throne...
Specifically, Malcador's warning is against *thinking* of the return of the Lost Primarchs.
This implies far more than the possibility that the Lost Primarchs are alive. This implies that thinking about them or especially about their return is by itself sufficient to risk undoing the Edict of Obliteration and suffering whatever consequences the Edict was meant to prevent.
This implies either that the original powers of the Primarchs (or whatever they became) is based in the knowledge other sapient beings have of them, or that the threat they pose to the Imperium can only be staved off by near-absolute ignorance of them. The intersection of the Lost Primarchs with the mystery at the core of the Rangdan Xenocides leads me to believe that the Xenocides either revealed that the Lost held psychic powers previously unknown to the Emperor, or that the Xenocides somehow transformed them into some kind of universal psychic threat.
@@nrais76 guys are in the Warp.
For what it's worth, there is a Subject XI in the Custodes vaults. Prior to them being scattered by Chaos and named, all of the Primarchs were called "Subject" followed by their future legion's number. It's also mentioned that all of these cells need to be warded and escape is always a threat. My head canon is that the 11th Primarch knew and understood Chaos prior to the Emperor finding him. The Emperor forced him to swear himself to silence, one that was broken. Once it was broken, he was recalled to Terra and thrown in a cell. He was forgotten during the Horus Heresy, and the death of Malcador as well as Emperor being put on the Throne, no one knew he was there save for the Custodes.
For the record I've listened to your dulcet tones for probably around 400 nights of the last years. The ambience is perfect. The presentation is litterally the best of any 40k lore channel I'm subscribed to. Of which there are a dozen including 40k theory and 40 facts.
Yet these I listen to time and again. Baby geniusing myself with 40k lore before bed haha. Not to mention when someone gets into 40k this is the first place I send them. So much love my friend. This is exactly what I would want to create if I did it myself. So well researched. The information presented perfectly to mine ear... kitty attack and all ^.^
My favourite remains the video about old Earth but to be frank they are all amazing. Thank you a million for these. I've suffered from such bad insomnia my doctor gave me a lifetime script of sleeping pills. These videos have in actuality and litterally been a lifesaver to me. As sleeping pills shouldn't be taken every day, I'll often set up 3-4 videos. By the fourth I'm typically asleep and if not I'll just keep loading sets until I get there haha > . <
So again and finally... thank you. I am grateful beyond words and as soon as I'm back in better health will be jumping on that Patreon.
Finally... BUTTSTUFFKAIJU FOR LIFE!!!
Always brings a smile to my face.... that others want to change it?! Screw em all and let em grow up and step outta their comfort zones :P
It's good for them. 😈😇
Cheers! If ever you end in Toronto Dinner and drinks are on me! That's not a joke either fyi o.o :P
Genuine thanks for taking the time to show so much love here. This was absolutely heartwarming to read, and very affirming. Delighted you like the work so much!
The Lost Primarchs can only be unlocked by beating the Great Crusade on the hardest difficulty and without The Emperor of Man's assistance at the Battle of Ullanor. You'll unlock two hidden worlds and from there find the two Lost Primarchs and get the secret ending to the Horus Heresy.
Is this the ending where vulkan has everyone over for cake and fulgrim demands a bake off?
Or was that the Christmas day ending?
I absolutely love your 3rd person imperial archivists role in making lore content. so passionate. also honest due to realism. I feel the same way with your lore vids as I do when I read ADB. Keep it up!
High praise indeed, thank you so much!
I like the theory that one of them, possibly the Lost (the 2nd Legion) disappeared into the Hadex Anomaly and since its a temporal anomaly they could come back in the closing days of the war for the galaxy and we could see all of the Primarchs reunited somehow
You, my good sir, have more so earned a subscriber than most I've listened to. This was beautiful. I loved it.
Thanks so much, and welcome aboard!
This video is fantastic, and as a whole your work has only gotten better since you started. Keep it up. Ave Imperator! Gloria, in excelcus Terra!
Truly amazing work. The writing,, The editing, Your speech, The way you go into great detail about the lore and the dedication you put into this video was both incredible and inspiring. I admit that i never heard of this channel before this video but now that i have seen your well crafted content, it is obvious to me that you are truly passionate about what you both say and do. you most definitely deserve more subscribers and I hope you gain many more in time.
Thank you my friend
Nicely done sir, I love the tone with which you deliver your remembrancing: both lecture and impassioned, yet understated, sermon. Bravo.
The quality of your videos is astounding! I can't wait to see your popularity grow.
I found your channel just recently but man I LOVE your style. I love Arch, 40k Theories, and Luetin, but your angle is so unique and engrossing. Thank you for your work.
You are a great story teller (no mean feat), who so obviously does more than read from a sheet of collated data.
I can't speak for others but that's why i come here.
- From a new subcriber :)
Thanks a mil. The script was somewhat tough to write this time around, only hope it's not a mess to the ears!
Bump for the Rememberier . May his Subscriber reach 40k ! Likes for the Likesgod
@@OculusImperia It's the kind of topic that even the chosen remembrancer of the Lord Regent would find difficult to speak around. That you found it tough to write out of character as well is strangely appropriate.
Know then, that this is the record of 10,000 subscribers. Congratulations.
You need not thank us you are one of the best youtubers i have had the pleasure of watching keep it up
Wow the whole immersion in the start of the video and how you assume the character is a really witty way to go about it. You've got yourself a loyal subscriber o humble historian of the imperium
10/10, would commit heresy again
Thanks for this awesome video! Great job doing your own RP! Found this thanks to google recommendations on my phone and now I'm so happy!
Thanks so much, and welcome aboard!
Man I’ve only listened to the intro so far and wow, you’ve got me hooked with your speaking approval from me
Congratulations Remembrancer ! The Warhammer 30k/40k community is taking note of your great work & it is assured that your subscriptions shall rise ever upward ....Ok, that was a fantastic topic to cover to celebrate 10k subscribers & to my knowledge is the best presentation of all the facts regarding the missing Primarchs. And for the fact that you continue in your style of presentation it is my ( & a lot of other viewers ) sincerest wish that GW put you on the payroll to make all your videos part of the canon, as it most certainly feels like it is every time you post a new video . TY for you splendid lore videos & I will await eagerly your next installment .
Damn 13:00 ... I never realized how HUGE the Primarchs were. The servitor standing next to Hawk Boi is just dwarfed by his size
Robert Deskins i thought it was more along the lines of
Tall human male: ~6ft
Astartes: ~8ft
Primaris: ~9ft
Primarch: ~10-12ft
Vulcan: ~14ft
I've said it before, you do great work. I love the format and the "In character" presentation. Please keep it up.
By FAR the best lore videos on youtube thank you for A-MAZING work!!!
One was assimilated by the Rangda along with his whole legion. The other utterly succumbed to mutation and madness with his legion along with him.
Of course, this is the meta purpose of the lost and forgotten. To allow players to make their own legions or head canon up, and have it as likely as any other.
More interesting is the fact that whatever did happen to these two primarchs, it was treated as graver than an actual crippling betrayal to the greatest enemy of the Imperium. As bad as being assimilated to the Rangda is, is it worse than half the legions and their primarchs joining the Archenemy, destroying humanity’s destiny, and crippling the Emperor to millennia of anguish? Hard to imagine so. To say nothing of what potentially the other offense could have been.
This is an excellent record, brother! You have earned another subscriber, and I shall pay tribute to your patreon. Ave Imperetor!
Thank you so much for the support! Welcome aboard :)
Awesome. Almost a year since I last listened to this and still exceptional. Keep going. Brilliant stuff.
looking through your videos and i must say i do admire the way you present the info in universe while also showing some this universe perspective not by breaking character but by the arrangement and way of the presentation
What a glorious narration Oculus.
Amazing job mate, as always. Keep going! This is just the beginning.
Lost primarchs are gork and mork you can't change my mind.
Yet another installment in awesome. Brilliant writing on a subject that gets little attention. Thank you for your work!
Your videos are freaking Awesome. Thank you for the fantastic work.
Dam that intro,
You get 40K man
I now have two go to 40k lore yourself and Luetin, you both are doing the emperor's work, thank you for bringing the emporer light to us all. And in normal speak thanks man I could listen to these all day (I do when cleaning)
This message, lost to the warp, hit my data slate this morning. I am appreciative of your past present and future efforts.
Dear Sir when the video ended i wanted to give you a standing ovation! Brilliant , simply brilliant!
100 thousand subs, you will get there!
I hope so! The give you TROPHIES!
Congratulations on 10k subscribers! Keep up the great work!
I have never played nor probably will every play the game, but these videos are great. I just enjoy the stories. Started reading books from the universe as a result. Good stuff
I shall now proceed with putting my fingers in my ears and loudly singing praises to the Emperor.
Indeed, that was a good call, loyal citizen. He even listed Lorgar among the traitor primarchs! The author of our most revered holy text! My local priest of the Saviour Emperor already has me doing penance for even having heard this blasphemy, and has passed a report along to his superiors.
Congratulations on 10K. Ambitious subject for considering the lack of (intentional) resources. Much better production this episode.
These mean so much too me. Possibly too much. Thank you.
I fall asleep listening to you mate. Your voice and the background music is wonderfully relaxing. You can tune in for the content or zone out and the sounds alone are pleasant to the ear :)
Absolutely beautiful reading there bud its just a shame their isn't more info on the two lost but regardless you sold it well as a mystery and a mystery that will not be solved any time soon (sadly).
Keep it up bud Amazing stuff:D
Thanks for the comment and the support man!
Oculus Imperia Always😊❤️
I'm about to take part in a contest around the forgotten and this has been incredibly helpful, thank you
Best warhammer lore channel on the net
Well done my friend. You deserve so much more than ten thousand
Easily the best content for warhammer on UA-cam
3 minutes in and already there is heresy of the highest order. Love to see it.
One interesting thing is that the other Primarchs cannot remember their names. Apparently, all of them have met them at least once, Horus surely spent a decent chunk of time with them and should remember who they are, yet their faces and names cannot be grasped. There's a psychic lock enforced on anyone who might leak their existence and it seems to be the case even after ten thousand years, and there's only person who can do that... the Emperor is STILL censoring the existence of the Lost Primarchs even as he sits rotting and dying on his death throne.
Wonder what would happen when he dies, would people suddenly realize it is weird the II and the XI Legion don't exist? Would the still existing Primarchs suddenly remember them in full?
Corax never met them
Outstanding video as always, thank you. (And congratulations on the sub milestone, Ave Imperator!)
I’m impressed you managed to find this much honestly
10k subscribers.... you’ve earned it brother. Congratulations!
For me, the most amusing part about the 2d and 11th are their oldest designer's notes. 20 groups of Marines, half loyal, half rebels, with 9 paint schemes for each side. Oh, the missing ones? Those are for gamers to make their own homebrew paint jobs, one for each side. From that simple GW decision, all of this speculation comes.
What I couldn't understand there was making a chapter under either legion and then the whole weight of the 9 legions/chapters and their descendents coming after your freshly painted miniatures and held to repent by a standard human Inquisitor🤷♂️
ALWAYS looking forward to your posts. (Even more so now as everything seems to have gone to shit in 5 weeks time) Thanks for your hard work & research as well as your delivery style. Excellent
Absolutely love your channel and content bro, hope you continue for a long time. You're doing the Emperor's work sir!
Welcome Back!! Ive missed your Content!! I say dont worry if someone already covered something I really like how you do these. Ill relisten and rewatch them all!! Keep it up!!
So good dude! You do such a great job with this, keep it up!
i cant understand why you are so underratet... Great work! This channel is truly unique
So so so so so god dam good. Thanks man you made my Friday
your work is amazing and I love all of your content, it has heart and emotion in it and it feels like you are invested in it and enjoying it. thank you for all your work
It is amazing how much you talk without saying much at all
HERESY! But also, thank you so much. I've been wallowing in 40k lore since I was about ten years old, so nearly twenty years now, and you've perfectly expressed the voice that I've always had in my head. Amazing work.
Just wanted to say the first video i watched from you as far as i can remember, was the one about the warp.
And I have to say, the way you talk in your videos, makes me feel like i am part of a inquisitor's information retinue researching about subjets of interest on order of Terra itself listening to dataslates mainteined for centuries recordered by an adept historian of the imperium.
Awesome channel is all i'm saying.
whom else relaxes with his vids even older ones? Sits warming up after spending all day in an unheated warehouse as i work with my indomitus sets.