@@Big1_ i Agree, but that’s what manufacturers claim. Just like “dry weight”. Means nothing. Give me the weight 100% fueled, ready to ride, not some imaginary figure with no fluids, no battery etc.
Have been binge watching your S1000R content. Just want to say I really appreciate all the effort and value you are providing I am very likely going to be placing a deposit down on an S1000R this winter and as a youtuber myself will be likely carrying out similar mods when I do so. Looking forward to more of your uploads Thank you
Man that shiftcam on the RR is unreal. I wish there was an option for the XR/R for a RR motor. That said, this new motor on the XR/R is something else. Enough that I am trading my 2020 RR for a 21 XR. Still will miss the insanity of the RR, but the XR is plenty of power.
Literally stumbled onto this video looking for XR info. What do you think the XR makes with a full system and tune? Really leaning that way for this spring.
Love your videos.....Keep them coming....If you can do this on each bike..... I am telling you....you are going to be famous.....But keep it with the S1000R now as I have ordered one in Australia and getting it in August.....
I love these videos. I always baseline my stock bikes on the dyno. That dip in the powerband is nothing like the K67 (2020+ RR). There is a 50 whp on the RR in 2nd gear. I had a similar dip to the 22 R on my RR after my flash, it wasn't until I install my Akrapovic headers that the minor dip disappeared.
Any plans for the new Speed Triple 1200 on the channel, Bill? I picked one up last weekend and curious on your opinion how it stacks up to its rivals. I can't get a test ride on any of em where I'm at. (Tuono was on top of my buying list but after watching your content... yeah. 😅)
@@CaliMotoTV Certainly! Very respectable! It should be even closer to the Euro 5 Streetfighter (which has been reported being down at the top end compared to the Euro 4 one). So, maybe only 10-15 hp difference when the CATs are out!
Thanks Bill and Jim👏👍. maybe a question. What I noticed is that many motor brands in the specs mention the HP, however when you check, it is most of the time lower than the specs: how is this possible. Example: Ducati Multistrada V4S: specs 170 hp on the Dyno 164hp🙃
Manufacturers state "crank horsepower", where as a dyno reads wheel horsepower, which is lower than crank because its measured at the wheels. Some horsepower is lost in the drive train, and on chain-driven bikes there is a lot less hp lost. So like on this bike, bmw states 165hp, the dyno reads 154hp at the rear tire. This is a simple explanation of why, but I hope it helps somewhat.
@@johnnazar180 ye... been wondering too cos at 0-60 it easiely keeps up w the big boys and it is not even that lighter. mayb they don't want the big sales. weird... imagine, they intentionally shot in theyr own knee to sell more s1000rr, this is the engine w/o shiftcam oO
Hey Bill, that’s impressive vs claimed power outputs mate. Also noticed that you have brembo callipers, front and rear… In Australia we get the BMW branded Hayes callipers. Are your Brembo standard?? Cheers mate!
hi super nice video and test ! i have the same moto and i would like to know if possible how many HP has with the other drive mode and how is the curve. super thank you Dynamic: 164 hp Road: ? Rain : ?
Before you had your S1000R de restricted was the throttle a bit snatchy ? Mine seems really jumpy at the moment, have done 500mls now and ready for 1st service, do you think its because of the restriction ? Cheers magnus
@@CaliMotoTV There must be something wrong with you dyno becuase at brentuning they have a dyno graph when they test the 2021 BMW S1000R and it puts out 150 whp and 78 wtq stock and in stage 2 tune it puts out 163whp and 84 wtq. See for yourself here : brentuningmoto.com/product/2021-bmw-s1000r-stage-2/
@@CaliMotoTV Yes the charts are from the new s1000r that came out in 2021. They also have a dyno of they old S1000r 2017-2020 model that puts out 138 whp and 76wtq stock on theire dyno.... When they tested the new 2021 model it put out 150 whp and 78 wtq stock so your dyno must show to much.... Have you tested other bikes in stock form on your dyno so you can compare your stock whp numbers with other dyno testers numbers of the same bikes in stock form?
@@CarsAndMotorcycles as much as I love bren tuning, those baseline numbers from them aren't nearly accurate. It's just marketing.. However, Bren tuning does make very good power and transforms the bike.
whoa hey whoa, I'm not selling my Aprilia....hahaha. "rear wheel..." Impressive considering they only claim 165hp! BMW is one of the only brands that understates their real numbers. Did you record this with the zv-1 and was the screen flipped out a few times?
Gotta love Bmw. 165 Claimed crank. 164 wheel. Probably 180-185 crank in reality. Good on them.
@@Big1_ i Agree, but that’s what manufacturers claim. Just like “dry weight”. Means nothing. Give me the weight 100% fueled, ready to ride, not some imaginary figure with no fluids, no battery etc.
depends on type of dyno, atmospherics etc. if Dynojet they are known to throw higher numbers
Have been binge watching your S1000R content. Just want to say I really appreciate all the effort and value you are providing
I am very likely going to be placing a deposit down on an S1000R this winter and as a youtuber myself will be likely carrying out similar mods when I do so.
Looking forward to more of your uploads
Thank you
This means so so so so so much. You have no idea. Thank you for the support!
Shiv is the man. Despite the lack of shiftcam, that's some really good power; about the same as my XR with headers and tune.
Man that shiftcam on the RR is unreal. I wish there was an option for the XR/R for a RR motor.
That said, this new motor on the XR/R is something else. Enough that I am trading my 2020 RR for a 21 XR. Still will miss the insanity of the RR, but the XR is plenty of power.
Literally stumbled onto this video looking for XR info. What do you think the XR makes with a full system and tune? Really leaning that way for this spring.
Lol that is the best kind of surprise when your whip is basically the same as the claimed hp at the crank. That’s freaking epic.
Riiiight. Still shocked.
I did the dyno with Leiker slip-on and 98oct. gasoline. Best run was 167,5 bhp. So that 164 is just in line..
Very interesting and impressive stock numbers. Can’t wait to see what they look like after the modifications are made.
Love your videos.....Keep them coming....If you can do this on each bike..... I am telling you....you are going to be famous.....But keep it with the S1000R now as I have ordered one in Australia and getting it in August.....
That’s impressive. Looking forward to the exhaust and tune
Bill, what's the sudden hate towards Aprilia?
Will you do tuned dyno run, millions are waiting 😁
I love these videos.
I always baseline my stock bikes on the dyno.
That dip in the powerband is nothing like the K67 (2020+ RR). There is a 50 whp on the RR in 2nd gear.
I had a similar dip to the 22 R on my RR after my flash, it wasn't until I install my Akrapovic headers that the minor dip disappeared.
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This is fun to watch, I want to do this to my Streetfighter. 👍🏽👍🏽
how is possible that the stock bike has the same HP on the back wheel as the engine ie rated for on papper ?
Guys, where did you sample the tach for the dyno? Thanks!
Not sure what you mean sorry
Any plans for the new Speed Triple 1200 on the channel, Bill? I picked one up last weekend and curious on your opinion how it stacks up to its rivals. I can't get a test ride on any of em where I'm at. (Tuono was on top of my buying list but after watching your content... yeah. 😅)
What! Dude new exhaust on the Streetfighter 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 I’m stoked for you about that I wonder what you went with??????
165 is pretty impressive
Question for shiv: do you know if this bike also has wideband o2 sensors like the RR?
@@CaliMotoTV ah. Well we'll find out soon enough. Can't wait for the exhaust + tune + post tune dyno runs!
Yes 100% has the wideband sensors like the gen 4 RR.
@@MrJayjay0420 man they should put these on all bikes...
Wow that’s amazing you’re prediction is way off and I bet ur really happy with the result
Nicely done! Any chance you can post the graph from the vid?
@@CaliMotoTV Digital will do even better. Surely that thing is capabile of saving its work? And outputting to a digital picture file like png or jpg?
Impressive, it's only 17 horse down on last year's Streetfighter? Same Dyno right?
Yup. 18hp. Respectable.
@@CaliMotoTV Certainly! Very respectable! It should be even closer to the Euro 5 Streetfighter (which has been reported being down at the top end compared to the Euro 4 one). So, maybe only 10-15 hp difference when the CATs are out!
That horsepower was a surprise! Of course I’d be intrigued to know how much of your HP2’s 130(?) horsepower is lost turning the shaft drive? 🇬🇧🏍
Thanks Bill and Jim👏👍. maybe a question. What I noticed is that many motor brands in the specs mention the HP, however when you check, it is most of the time lower than the specs: how is this possible. Example: Ducati Multistrada V4S: specs 170 hp on the Dyno 164hp🙃
Manufacturers state "crank horsepower", where as a dyno reads wheel horsepower, which is lower than crank because its measured at the wheels. Some horsepower is lost in the drive train, and on chain-driven bikes there is a lot less hp lost. So like on this bike, bmw states 165hp, the dyno reads 154hp at the rear tire. This is a simple explanation of why, but I hope it helps somewhat.
Guess it is to help out on ones Napoleon complex do they just dice the numbers ... 😉
@@johnnazar180 The dyno read 164 at the rear wheel
@@windyrun7979 in this video? I was kinda just listening to it in the background. If so thats impressive.
@@johnnazar180 ye... been wondering too cos at 0-60 it easiely keeps up w the big boys and it is not even that lighter. mayb they don't want the big sales. weird... imagine, they intentionally shot in theyr own knee to sell more s1000rr, this is the engine w/o shiftcam oO
Hey Bill, that’s impressive vs claimed power outputs mate. Also noticed that you have brembo callipers, front and rear… In Australia we get the BMW branded Hayes callipers. Are your Brembo standard?? Cheers mate!
@@CaliMotoTV interesting!! I’ll run that detail past my dealership and see what feedback I can get. Cheers mate.
@@lordgibbness ahh, thanks for background Rob. Cheers mate!
hi super nice video and test ! i have the same moto and i would like to know if possible how many HP has with the other drive mode and how is the curve.
super thank you
Dynamic: 164 hp
Road: ?
Rain : ?
Sorry we don't have adhoc access to the dyno to run random tests.
@@CaliMotoTV ok no problem If i will be able to do it with my motorcycle mechanic i will keep you posted.
What #s are u getting now with all the tuning? Want to know if it's worth it for my bike. 10hp? Exhaust, tune, flapper delete.
Not sure we haven't rerun the dyno
@@CaliMotoTVplease do tuned Dyno run
Before you had your S1000R de restricted was the throttle a bit snatchy ? Mine seems really jumpy at the moment, have done 500mls now and ready for 1st service, do you think its because of the restriction ? Cheers magnus
Thanks, ill see how it is after its de restricted. Enjoying the vids, interesting to see what you do to the S1000R next
Can we assume it is the same numbers for S1000XR?
Not sure. Probably different tune / gearing.
How can the torque be so high at the wheel? I would be guessing it would be around 78-80 but not 87!!! Are you sure that this is torque at the wheel?
@@CaliMotoTV There must be something wrong with you dyno becuase at brentuning they have a dyno graph when they test the 2021 BMW S1000R and it puts out 150 whp and 78 wtq stock and in stage 2 tune it puts out 163whp and 84 wtq. See for yourself here : brentuningmoto.com/product/2021-bmw-s1000r-stage-2/
@@CaliMotoTV Yes the charts are from the new s1000r that came out in 2021. They also have a dyno of they old S1000r 2017-2020 model that puts out 138 whp and 76wtq stock on theire dyno.... When they tested the new 2021 model it put out 150 whp and 78 wtq stock so your dyno must show to much.... Have you tested other bikes in stock form on your dyno so you can compare your stock whp numbers with other dyno testers numbers of the same bikes in stock form?
@@CarsAndMotorcycles as much as I love bren tuning, those baseline numbers from them aren't nearly accurate. It's just marketing..
However, Bren tuning does make very good power and transforms the bike.
whoa hey whoa, I'm not selling my Aprilia....hahaha. "rear wheel..." Impressive considering they only claim 165hp! BMW is one of the only brands that understates their real numbers. Did you record this with the zv-1 and was the screen flipped out a few times?
@@CaliMotoTV haha I ask that because I look at it too evey once in a while and go "shit, looked at the wrong spot" 😅🤣😂
Everyone else I’ve seen has been getting 154. Think something is not right. Don’t get me wrong. Absolutely love your channel buddy. But.
Many conditions and variables play into dyno results, so don't trust one more than another take them all, including this one, with a grain of salt.
OK, I feel vindicated:) I've been saying this for a while that the s1000r has as much (more?) power than the tuono etc.
Color me impressed, BMW