To Dios Mio: The only serious thing about film school is you waste your time and money while getting freakish and think you're avant-garde, while Weinstein-type characters make or break your spirituality and virginity!
I think, generally, people have the wrong idea about film school. The idea isn't to go and just "learn" stuff about film, its all about the experience. The experience of producing projects, making mistakes, experimenting, going crazy. You're able to unlock your creative capacity because you have the time to do it. Of course it's all about how you apply the skills you gain to your work (during & after film school); thats what matters at the end of the day, but we can't look at film school the same way we look at traditional education because thats not the point of it.
300MediaProductions Totally agree. Even networking can be done without film school. Internet - find local film makers, work for free, learn, then earn. Move to Atlanta or LA if you want to be in neck deep. Most people will quickly realize film making is hard as hell and quit.
@@300MediaProductions -- THAT'S A LOT! Woody Allen said that '90 percent of success is showing up' and film school adds, '90 percent of getting your movie made is knowing the right people.' That's why I think going to film school is important. Wish I had. Working your way in from outside is much more of a challenge. I know. I'll make it, but sheesh...!
EXACTLY!!! Plus, not everybody is meant to be a director. There are dozens of different professions in filmmaking. You could be good at framing shots and lighting scenes, you could have the talent to write witty dialogue, you might be a great audio editor. There's hundreds of people making a film, and there's always the opportunity to take part in the production of it.
Well, not a single one of the Kubrick's movies got positive reviews from critics, at it's time it was really controversial, with people leaving cinemas when Clockwork Orange started projecting.Stuff like that, a lot of negative energy was pulled towards Kubrick.He didn't care though, every single one of his movies was understood wrong, and every single one of his movies is a pure genius, i guess because all of that negativity film schools just passed him by.
I think one of the most important aspects of film school would be the connections and people you meet. You're not gonna be the next tarantino by making your own movies with no contacts or experience unless you have the luck of the film gods on your side. Film school is also really great for meeting people who are trying to get into the same industry and you might walk out of your program with a degree as well as your own production team you and your friends put together throughout the years. It really gives you a huge head start in that aspect.
I'm two thirds into film class in Norway's equivalent to high school, and I just realized that I'm the kid who made a movie about suicide (it was a comedy though, so maybe it doesn't count). Plus, one of the girls in my class made a film about rape. Asking her out because of it never crossed my mind. That seems a little messed up, actually. As for everyone else: If a student fucks up, they add some weird music and filters and call it an art film (I did that twice). If they achieve their vision, however, you can expect three different results: 1. A slow movie about depression. It always takes place during the winter or at night, and it always contains drawn-out close-ups of the protagonist. 2. A quirky film that combines pop culture with meta narrative, in an attempt to seem edgy. 3. A technical marvel with great lighting, camerawork and effects, but absolutely no story. Studying and making films as part of your education is great, but this video seems very true.
Hehe, your comment gave me more than the film. Btw, I guess that if you manage to combine all three types there might be something interesting happening.
In slovenia I went to kinda the same school It was also a high school and I hated It. All of my class mate films were the same and they made us do biology instead of film in general It wasnt fun so I quit and went to a regular school and made some shorts
Andrei Rublev is the best one but you should see all of them.Stalker,Solaris,Ivan's Childhood,Zerkalo,Nostalghia and the movie that he farewells to cinema:Offret.Tarkovsky is clearly one of the most unique director of all time.He is unique because he approches cinema like its a poetry.
Nadeem, Stalker was the first Tarkovsky I saw and, got hooked, it remains my favourite but I don't want to call it, or any of the other, "the best". To me Tarkovsky stands out because his films (especially Andreij Rublyev, The Mirror, Stalker) expresses the human and the spiritual in a natural, true and non-pretentious way.
It's not always about whether it is useful or worthwhile in society. It all boils down to what you love and enjoy doing in life. Follow your heart that bleeds the strongest desire. (:
I used to aspire being a doctor. But then that changed when I was introduced to the complex world of business. Then again, I realized that my love for film burns and shines brighter than the two. We tend to change our wants as we grow up. This process is especially flourishing during our salad days that approaches high school or college. I realized that medical school requires a greater deal of work than I prev anticipated, wherein you can only survive if your aspirations match with the high level of workload expected. So u gotta haulass, u know what im sayin? Anyway, I'm graduating from high school in a year or so, and I've decided to do 2 degrees - business management and film. In case I don't yet make it in the film industry, business can act as a backup option until an opportunity awaits. I hope this helped. I don't necessarily expect it to cos I'm still 16. Lol. (:
theprototypeguy Yeah I've noticed those things too. I think the worry is that you have to be utterly committed to medicine if you decide to do it, which I don't think I could be. What makes my predicament quite bad is that I have worked really hard to get the grades to enter medicine, and only recently have I thought of not doing it, never minding the fact that the success rate/employment for film school/studies graduates is tiny. Also, I think business and film would be pretty damn useful together, you could fast-track yourself into producing. (If that's the case I don't expect mine to either, as I am only a year older!
10 directors in this video: - Steven Spielberg - Akira Kurosawa - Federico Fellini - Jean-Luc Godard - George Lucas - Francis Ford Coppola - Alfred Hitchcock - Woody Allen - Orson Welles - Martin Scorsese
Here’s my list of ten directors (some who didn’t go to film school) Stanley Kubrick Paul Thomas Anderson Park Chan-Wook Charlie Kaufman David Cronenberg Michael Haneke David Lynch John Carpenter Werner Herzog Bong Joon-ho
JustNoise Not true. Only most people have an over-inflated sense of importance. Plenty of people know they are imperfect and that the world doesn't stop for them.
Sure. In my first comment I made fun of most people's fallacy that their lives matter. I am aware of this not being true. Still you have to hold that alleged purpose in life in high regards, so that you can go on creating. In doing so, many filmmakers fall into the trap of addressing suicide - the free will to let all this go - in their work. This is ironic to me.
You said everybody should go to film school, but you mention some people in this video that didn't go to film school: Luis Buñuel, Orson Welles, Steven Spielberg, Quentin Tarantino, Fellini. And there's a lot of people that didn't go to film school that you didn't mention: Stanley Kubrick, John Huston, Akira Kurosawa, Michelangelo Antonioni, Pedro Almodovar, Dario Argento, David Fincher, Steven Soderbergh, Christopher Nolan, Peter Jackson, James Cameron. Lana & Andy Watchowsky, Paul Thomas Anderson and a big etcetera. So no, it's not so necessary to go to film school, but you must know that this is art and some born with it and some don't. You can go to every film shool you want, but if you don't have it, you don't have it. Good luck to every dreamer reading this and make your own path.
Well, I know for sure that Polanski was film school student, cause I was attending the same school and watched his student films, so dont be such smartass
Actually Polanski went to film school - National Film School in Łódź. He graduated in 1959. But you're right. There are many great directors who didn't go to film school and still succed.
You have it or you don't is a fallacy. All anyone needs is training and/or refinement. While I will agree there are people that have better understandings of certain skills, or excel faster than others, it is wrong to say that someone can't do something because they don't know how. They can do it, they just need to learn.
In 2011 I graduated college in sport management. In 2012 I roofed for a living and bought a D5100. Made 3 free wedding videos, grew business and quit roofing Thanksgiving 2012. Networked for 2 years in various industries and watched 6 million tutorials and films that were better than mine. Bought a RED Epic Dragon yesterday. Still think I suck, but if I ever think I'm great, or worse, phenomenal, I better check myself before I wreck thyself.
Film School advantages really depend on what type of person you are. If you think that you have a lot of talent but find it very difficult to make contacts then I'd say Film School is for you as networking becomes much easier that way. HOWEVER, there are people that have that ability and find film School to be a waste of time. Making good movies is very hard regardless of going to film school or not so I think that people who TRULY want to make movies will find a way to make them.
Funny video! Lol. This is very informative. I'm teaching myself film because my dad said no to film school. Well, he didn't EXACTLY say no, but his reaction was enough.
This is great but, I think it's funny that the second he starts talking about how important sound is, a crappy bass beat starts playing that totally drowns him out and adds fluctuations to his volume. Maybe he's ambiguously giving us an example of bad sound?
I thought every film school student makes a coming-of-age film about a teenager being confused/gay/neglected/unsure of what they want in life/child of single mother/crazy parents or siblings that just happens to mirror their own life.
I have ideas for movies and short films but I've tried and I really need to know how to direct, how to edit and most importantly, be perfectionist. Usually when I'm working on a film the only thing I have clear is the story, the rest I decide when I'm already in the process of filming like music, characters, ambiance, etc. But after a few weeks I think of another film and throw my project down the drain so it comes looking pretty bad, patience, passion and perfectionism are the key. Wish I had gone to film school to know where to start and how to film correctly.
+Ann Hey Ann! Thanks for watching. I may not be the best person to give advice, but I wanted to tell you this. Make stuff. And finish it. And then make more stuff. That's how people get better. It's natural to lose interest and want to move on to something else, but learning how to finish videos is one of the toughest things there is to learn. Also watch this video featuring Ira Glass speaking. I agree with every word he says. ua-cam.com/video/PbC4gqZGPSY/v-deo.html I hope to see your films in the theater one day :)
Mikey Gleason Oh My! I wish I had seen that video years ago when my inspiration dropped! Thank YOU a LOT for showing me this! And you were right, every word he says it's true, I really needed it.
+Ann I am in film school but my advice will be to make movies that you can connect with ,things that you are passionate about ,forget about being perfect just go with your guts and finish it. What kind of things do you like to see in a movie, what don't you like seeing in a movie,when you answer these questions you will be able to make movies that you like which will help you finish it. Another thing keep it simple and stupid don't go for complicated camera moves or storylines. Good luck
My advice is: make a lot of stuff, like with your cellphone. Look up at exercises and do it yourself. It doesnt have to be a story, its just practice. Make your version of the kuloshev effect for example, stuff like that. Things that get you to think about framing, pacing and editing.
Hi I’m really late but if you happen to reply that’d be great. I’m stuck in the same place as you. I’m building a film series of unconnected movies based in a fictional town. If you’d like to be apart of that, please message back(:
trying to find one of these for school in general, at this point I'm 80% sure that what we are forced to do is harder than anything we will encounter in the workforce.
You forgot the actually important advice. Which is "Film school grades DO NOT MATTER". Film school is a platform to have people around you who will work on your stuff for free. That is what you should focus on. Making stuff. Because stuff will get you work, grades will get you nothing.
Everybody should go to film school? Really? If film school is the key to success, then why have some of hollywood's biggest names PUBLICLY shunned film school? Quentin Tarantino and Seth Macfarlane have both said it was a waste of their time and dropped out. Spielberg said he got some tips, but film school was not the key to his success. In fact, of all the people that have publicly stated they completed film school, none of them have any humility and they all have an ego the size of texas. The same could be said of most business graduates.
Oh, and furthermore, Mr. Mickey apparently forgot camera basics or hired someone of no experience to shoot this video because he doesnt have the proper head room.
To be fair, most people aren't going to be the next Tarantino, P.T. Anderson, Spielberg, and the like. Those guys are born storytellers with a keen vision who worked really hard and, lets face it, got pretty lucky. All of those directors have three attributes on their side: Natural talent, grueling work ethic, and unshakable perseverance. Most people are missing that last one, and thats what separates the people that succeed and the people that fail.
Bro u were so right. I just finished my first year of film school. And last semester there's a girl who made a film about suicide and another girl made a film about sexual assault.
film school gives you the time and resources to try and fail as many times as you need without too much risk. plus theres a lot of opportunity for networking and internships. most of the film related internships ive come across require you to be a student in a film-related program. you dont need film school to succeed, but its not completely useless either
I know this is a funny video, but I don't give a damn, I took notes *Notes* 1. Audio, lighting etc, are all important, but without a story you are fucked. 2. Study these people mentioned: Michael Bay Spielburg Akira Kurosawa Fellini Scorcese Jean Luc-Godard George Lucas Hitchcock Francis Ford Cappola Woody Allen Orson Welles John Woo Tarantino Altman 3. Study these people, cause comment-people mentioned them: Luis Buñuel, Stanley Kubrick, John Huston, Michelangelo Antonioni, Pedro Almodovar, Dario Argento, David Fincher, Steven Soderbergh, Christopher Nolan, Peter Jackson, James Cameron. Lana & Andy Watchowsky, Paul Thomas Anderson 4. Film school is a creativity-sucking place that helps you understand the theoretical part of film making, but you should do things on your own. Use film school, instead of letting it use you.
He has a very sardonic sense of humor which I guess doesn't fly with a lot of people. I love it, and this is the first and only video I've seen of his so far.
He said they mostly watched films all day. But this doesn't sound like "film school". It sounds like "Film studies". Most film schools have hands on learning, and i think NYU would especially have hands on learning.
Mikey Gleason yeah bro great video ! Btw I have a project I want to start It's a mini series. I'm producing this project I'm renting and using some of the equipment and basic gear and I'm directing, editing , and filming however I don't have any experience in films/series and I'm not in a Union Most of my previous work has been just directing, shooting and editing small music videos but I recently got the script for this project since this is my first project this Big! i want to take it seriously however My crew which are mostly friends that want to help they don't mind doing it for free but most of my cast is people that would like to act o But I can't pay them what I want to know is if there is a contract or any other way that can help me keep them in the series till further notice without paying them in legal terms ?Or do you know any info about the legal process of a project like this I want this project to go by the "rules" can anybody help me ?
if you're not paying them then they're not obligated to do anything for you. key to keeping a solid team throughout production is building a strong enough story that the team can believe in and want to see into fruition. treat them well, and be a good enough leader to where their faith in you or the project won't dwindle away. also, try and provide snacks/lunch on set
I went to film school...it wasn't an education, but it wasn't a total waste either. When I moved to Hollywood, I actually kinda, sorta knew what I was doing. Then I moved back home and worked in hotels for 6 years. Then I moved back to Hollywood, and worked on other people's movies. In the end, it didn't hurt going to school, but I regret moving straight to Hollywood instead of going the straight independent route. Lot of wasted time looking for work instead of making films.
Please can someone give me advice!! I'm very creative and love the genre of photography and documentary filming, but to go to film school seems very risky because you either make it or you don't, it isn't guaranteed. I'm only 16, I live in London and I'm having to choose my a-levels in a week and I just don't know whether to pursue a career in film or try find a safer option for a creative career?
You don't have to start in the film industry right away. You could also first pursue another career that more or less guarantees you a safe job and that you kind of have interest in. That way you'll always have a plan B. You don't have to go to film school to be good at creating movies, although it is a great advantage. Learn it by yourself while doing something else. Help some film crews out and network, study movies, start independent projects etc. And one day you might still find a way into the film industry and produce documentaries. You could also try to pursue a career related to film (media, management, editing etc.) which can lead you to more opportunities. I think the most risky part about film school is that you don't have a plan B. It can be fun and rewarding, but there is no guarantee to actually succeed. I hope I could help.
A UA-camr called D4Darious made a video on film schools that was quite informative. Also check out the video of DSLRGuide in which he explains how to become a filmmaker without attending film school (The video is called "How to learn Filmmaking without film school").
A few thoughts: 1. Thanks for watching my stupid video. 2. If film school is financially an option for you and you have a real passion for it, I say go ahead. It's fun and in today's world, there are plenty of jobs that relate to it even if you don't end up making full length feature films. 3. If it's financially not an option, there are lots of other ways to learn about film. So many great videos. So many great films to watch. You can educate yourself as much as you want to. Really. It's entirely up to you. Watch as much as you can. And make as much as you can. If you are able, to find like-minded creative people to collaborate with, to bounce ideas off of, to challenge you, and to grow with as artists. 4. Watch this video that I keep sharing. It's Ira Glass talking about creativity and being a beginner. ua-cam.com/video/3ResTHKVxf4/v-deo.html 5. If you're still reading this comment, I'm happy to point you in the direction of films that you really should see to start to understand the power/depth/awesomeness of cinema. 6. And this is important, even if you don't go to film school, even if you have to start working some job to make ends meet, even if you have to put your dream on hold for a little while, don't give up on it. Just because you're not in film school at age 19 or 20 doesn't mean you won't eventually be a great filmmaker. 7. Don't let a lack of equipment be an excuse. Most of our phones are good enough to make Star Wars. We just need to come up with our own Star Wars and make it. Good luck!
I want to go to film school after I earned my GED. GED 🎓 is first then film school my dream / next step. I want to learn skills, I want to write , act, direct, & produce my films after I get my film degree, in the future I hope to have my own film studio so I want to learn what I need to learn in film school
I would love to see this video remade with some more female directors on the “directors you need to know” and “movies you need to watch” lists. Maybe by you or maybe a younger friend of yours who has gone to film school more recently when they may be teaching more female directors.
I genuinely hope that more female directors are being taught. Thinking back (this was 20 years ago) it was definitely a white-male-centric curriculum. Very hopeful that has expanded.
LOL, the only movie he mentioned that i have not seen is the Muppets one. But maybe i did saw it when i was a kid, i do remember seeing the one where Gonzo turns out to be FROM SPACEEEEE!
Hey all, So because I’m doing a project for class that involves me trying to find film students, aspiring filmmakers or just film nerds who wishes they could work on major blockbuster movies (doesn't matter which category you are in), I’m reaching out to see if anyone out here is willing to have a quick conversation with me about your experience with film and aspirations? Your responses will be featured in our education project. ;) Please drop me a personal message if you’re interested. Thank you!
I was going to goto film school but was already making films before that. I spoke to the guy in charge at the school said right out that I didn't need it because I was already doing it. You DO NOT need to goto film school. It's a choice. And the Muppets take Manhattan? Really? Now let's ask you a question? Where are you at after going to film school? Are you out there making films? Are you working in HollyWood? The most you'll be doing when out of film school is a crew job(Usually a PA). Film school is good for networking that's about it. But go waste $40,000 or more on film school when you can be making films now.
haha, so basically go to the book store, take a book about film making that you consider buying (but don't buy), scim through it for five minutes... done!
Woody Allen but no Bergman? Seriously? Woody Allen himself is a big fan of Bergman. I bought my Seventh Seal Blu-Ray and there is a 20 minute video of Allen praising Bergman. Also, the way you spoke about Kurosawa is just plain disrespectful, please don't ever do it again.
I don't think this guy went to film school. Not much mention on the three major film movements and their influence either..... there is a list of things this guy missed out.... and I never went to film school...............
"Creator of over 2 short films... including this one." lmao
then what was the other one lol
fuckin made me laugh
100K spent, made 1 film...
@@excitedme530 lmao, 100k a year maybe. if you get your masters in film, you can easily be out a quarter-million dollars. But your point stands haha.
T.N. Z wow someone didn’t watch the video
This video was significantly less helpful than I thought it would be
Dj C I feel the exact same way mi amigo
Dj C yeah well that was film school for him not helpful.
Dj C N
sigh
Don’t go to film school
I expected a more serious video but this could might just be the best satire about Film education.
No way.
lmao right
Ikr?!
I'm guessing you don't know much about satire
To Dios Mio: The only serious thing about film school is you waste your time and money while getting freakish and think you're avant-garde, while Weinstein-type characters make or break your spirituality and virginity!
Is it me or does this guy sound like Eminem
at first i said "just you" then unpause the video. " Holy Fuck he Does!!!"
100%
At 1.25x, he really DOES!
Actually it's kind of a mix of Eminem and Mark Wahlberg
holy fuck lol!
Alfred Hitchcock was once asked, what are the three prerequisites for making a movie, and he said, 'The script, the script, and the script.' :).
That's why Stanley Kubrick is better
Was gonna like it but had to keep the niceness still enjoyed the comment though
@@andyfoster8011 I mean Hitchcock has made over 20 masterpieces. Nothing to sneeze at.
I think, generally, people have the wrong idea about film school. The idea isn't to go and just "learn" stuff about film, its all about the experience. The experience of producing projects, making mistakes, experimenting, going crazy. You're able to unlock your creative capacity because you have the time to do it. Of course it's all about how you apply the skills you gain to your work (during & after film school); thats what matters at the end of the day, but we can't look at film school the same way we look at traditional education because thats not the point of it.
You can also do those things on your own.
The main advantage film school gives its students is automatic networking, and that's about it.
300MediaProductions Totally agree. Even networking can be done without film school. Internet - find local film makers, work for free, learn, then earn. Move to Atlanta or LA if you want to be in neck deep. Most people will quickly realize film making is hard as hell and quit.
@@300MediaProductions -- THAT'S A LOT! Woody Allen said that '90 percent of success is showing up' and film school adds, '90 percent of getting your movie made is knowing the right people.' That's why I think going to film school is important. Wish I had. Working your way in from outside is much more of a challenge. I know. I'll make it, but sheesh...!
EXACTLY!!! Plus, not everybody is meant to be a director. There are dozens of different professions in filmmaking. You could be good at framing shots and lighting scenes, you could have the talent to write witty dialogue, you might be a great audio editor. There's hundreds of people making a film, and there's always the opportunity to take part in the production of it.
But it fucking costs $250,000 man, yeesh
how is stanley kubrick not on that list of directors?
exactly
Well, not a single one of the Kubrick's movies got positive reviews from critics, at it's time it was really controversial, with people leaving cinemas when Clockwork Orange started projecting.Stuff like that, a lot of negative energy was pulled towards Kubrick.He didn't care though, every single one of his movies was understood wrong, and every single one of his movies is a pure genius, i guess because all of that negativity film schools just passed him by.
I dont know.I guess people hate me.
Don't worry sir, i adore you.
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
I think one of the most important aspects of film school would be the connections and people you meet. You're not gonna be the next tarantino by making your own movies with no contacts or experience unless you have the luck of the film gods on your side. Film school is also really great for meeting people who are trying to get into the same industry and you might walk out of your program with a degree as well as your own production team you and your friends put together throughout the years. It really gives you a huge head start in that aspect.
David lynch and Kubrick should have been mentioned somewhere.
Add Cameron and Ridley
Cameron? Are you kidding with us? Cameron is sucks.
@@ridvanerbek i agree. Its not like made the highest crosing movie ever twice or he made the greatest action movie of all time.
NO HAY BANDA
Kubrick could NOT type, he punched the keys like a spastic little kid. Great Movies though . . . .
Kubrick was the most difficult omission, but I wanted to keep the list to ten.
I'm two thirds into film class in Norway's equivalent to high school, and I just realized that I'm the kid who made a movie about suicide (it was a comedy though, so maybe it doesn't count).
Plus, one of the girls in my class made a film about rape. Asking her out because of it never crossed my mind. That seems a little messed up, actually.
As for everyone else: If a student fucks up, they add some weird music and filters and call it an art film (I did that twice).
If they achieve their vision, however, you can expect three different results:
1. A slow movie about depression. It always takes place during the winter or at night, and it always contains drawn-out close-ups of the protagonist.
2. A quirky film that combines pop culture with meta narrative, in an attempt to seem edgy.
3. A technical marvel with great lighting, camerawork and effects, but absolutely no story.
Studying and making films as part of your education is great, but this video seems very true.
Hehe, your comment gave me more than the film. Btw, I guess that if you manage to combine all three types there might be something interesting happening.
I wish you made this video. I feel like it would have been better all around.
In slovenia I went to kinda the same school It was also a high school and I hated It. All of my class mate films were the same and they made us do biology instead of film in general It wasnt fun so I quit and went to a regular school and made some shorts
Do you even Tarkovsky bro?
Andrei Rublev is the best one but you should see all of them.Stalker,Solaris,Ivan's Childhood,Zerkalo,Nostalghia and the movie that he farewells to cinema:Offret.Tarkovsky is clearly one of the most unique director of all time.He is unique because he approches cinema like its a poetry.
Nadeem, Stalker was the first Tarkovsky I saw and, got hooked, it remains my favourite but I don't want to call it, or any of the other, "the best". To me Tarkovsky stands out because his films (especially Andreij Rublyev, The Mirror, Stalker) expresses the human and the spiritual in a natural, true and non-pretentious way.
thank you, I discover something new!
@@studiocorax8790 Tarkovsky was one of the most pretentious directors EVER )) Come on, setting a cow on fire for the sake of great art.
Lana Yashina all great directors are pretentious, that’s why he’s one of the best(although setting a cow on fire is not forgivable)
The ending of this video hit me hard, I am debating whether to be a doctor or a film director. Damn you.
It's not always about whether it is useful or worthwhile in society. It all boils down to what you love and enjoy doing in life.
Follow your heart that bleeds the strongest desire. (:
I used to aspire being a doctor. But then that changed when I was introduced to the complex world of business. Then again, I realized that my love for film burns and shines brighter than the two. We tend to change our wants as we grow up. This process is especially flourishing during our salad days that approaches high school or college. I realized that medical school requires a greater deal of work than I prev anticipated, wherein you can only survive if your aspirations match with the high level of workload expected. So u gotta haulass, u know what im sayin? Anyway, I'm graduating from high school in a year or so, and I've decided to do 2 degrees - business management and film. In case I don't yet make it in the film industry, business can act as a backup option until an opportunity awaits. I hope this helped. I don't necessarily expect it to cos I'm still 16. Lol. (:
theprototypeguy Yeah I've noticed those things too. I think the worry is that you have to be utterly committed to medicine if you decide to do it, which I don't think I could be. What makes my predicament quite bad is that I have worked really hard to get the grades to enter medicine, and only recently have I thought of not doing it, never minding the fact that the success rate/employment for film school/studies graduates is tiny. Also, I think business and film would be pretty damn useful together, you could fast-track yourself into producing.
(If that's the case I don't expect mine to either, as I am only a year older!
George miller was a doctor before directing Mad Max
I AM IN THE EXACT SITUATION RIGHT NOW!!!!!
"Kurosawa is the Japanese dude.
Fellini is the Italian dude"
*keels over and cracks up laughing*
Funny how nobody says "the Jewish dude".
Might be Chinese
10 directors in this video:
- Steven Spielberg
- Akira Kurosawa
- Federico Fellini
- Jean-Luc Godard
- George Lucas
- Francis Ford Coppola
- Alfred Hitchcock
- Woody Allen
- Orson Welles
- Martin Scorsese
wow your channel is dope
Here’s my list of ten directors (some who didn’t go to film school)
Stanley Kubrick
Paul Thomas Anderson
Park Chan-Wook
Charlie Kaufman
David Cronenberg
Michael Haneke
David Lynch
John Carpenter
Werner Herzog
Bong Joon-ho
@@moomoo1200 Quentin Tarantino?
Bunny. The best I put fanboy directors is a separate category
What are the 5 movie he said could understand one of them Nu shandalu or something
where tf is Stanley Kubrick
He wasn't that great
Samuel Cright R U Mad mate?
Dead.
and the coens, edgar and many more u cant just point out martin, fordcopola and be done
@@SpcGiraffeWHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA BRO?
This video was so great. Was expecting tips but arguably received much more.
I agree, why does everyone want to make a movie about suicide? Even I want to! I don't get it
Because everybody thinks he's important. Including me and you.
JustNoise Not true. Only most people have an over-inflated sense of importance. Plenty of people know they are imperfect and that the world doesn't stop for them.
You didn't catch the irony in this, did you?
JustNoise I didn't, can you elaborate?
Sure.
In my first comment I made fun of most people's fallacy that their lives matter. I am aware of this not being true. Still you have to hold that alleged purpose in life in high regards, so that you can go on creating. In doing so, many filmmakers fall into the trap of addressing suicide - the free will to let all this go - in their work.
This is ironic to me.
in my opinion kubrick is missing on that list..
Everyone who wants to attend film school SHOULD read 'Rebel Without a Crew' by R. Rodriguez first. That may drasticly change their mind.
Teranomy eyyy it’s written by Robert Rodriguez!
You said everybody should go to film school, but you mention some people in this video that didn't go to film school: Luis Buñuel, Orson Welles, Steven Spielberg, Quentin Tarantino, Fellini. And there's a lot of people that didn't go to film school that you didn't mention: Stanley Kubrick, John Huston, Akira Kurosawa, Michelangelo Antonioni, Pedro Almodovar, Dario Argento, David Fincher, Steven Soderbergh, Christopher Nolan, Peter Jackson, James Cameron. Lana & Andy Watchowsky, Paul Thomas Anderson and a big etcetera. So no, it's not so necessary to go to film school, but you must know that this is art and some born with it and some don't. You can go to every film shool you want, but if you don't have it, you don't have it. Good luck to every dreamer reading this and make your own path.
Well, I know for sure that Polanski was film school student, cause I was attending the same school and watched his student films, so dont be such smartass
Actually Polanski went to film school - National Film School in Łódź. He graduated in 1959. But you're right. There are many great directors who didn't go to film school and still succed.
A lot of directors you mentioned didn't go to film school, but they did study film at college.
You have it or you don't is a fallacy. All anyone needs is training and/or refinement. While I will agree there are people that have better understandings of certain skills, or excel faster than others, it is wrong to say that someone can't do something because they don't know how. They can do it, they just need to learn.
Emmanuel Paradela Well, let´s face it...talent is given...but in the end it depends on you, wether you keep on doing what you´re doing, or you don´t.
1:21 dude chill I didnt came here to get insulted. I already beat my self up enough thank you.
I narrowed down to five ! Best dude
Hahahaaaaa. I was not expecting that intro. You are hilarious my dude. LMAO 😂 that caught me off-guard.
I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
I really like this guy and people who don't are either angry or don't have a sense of humor
What are you, the king of judging who has a sense of humor and who doesn’t?
I jus close my eyes n listen to Eminem explain film school to me
Sarcasm motherf***ers, do you speak it ?!
(How many of you can see the reference, I'm so pretentious)
They speak Sarcasm in What?
Do you read the bible timothy ?
there's this passage i got memorized , sorta fits this occasion ... Ezekiel 25:17 ?
ruth WICKED **reads scripture** **holds up gun** BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG
Pulp fiction
+Amine Anli Its 'English' not 'Sarcasm'.
12 years ago and nothing has changed. Great summary.
"creator of two short films, including this one" -wow he must be the fucking goat
Me: wanting to quit film school
Watches this video: I GOT THIS!
In 2011 I graduated college in sport management. In 2012 I roofed for a living and bought a D5100. Made 3 free wedding videos, grew business and quit roofing Thanksgiving 2012. Networked for 2 years in various industries and watched 6 million tutorials and films that were better than mine. Bought a RED Epic Dragon yesterday. Still think I suck, but if I ever think I'm great, or worse, phenomenal, I better check myself before I wreck thyself.
Kevin Johnson Step by step to the dream man. I can relate. Congrats on your new RED.
"Why do you hate America?" Brilliant.
I think only people who have went to film school really appreciated his humour ! thank you! :D
I still don't understand why muppets in Manhattan is a must watch
Film School advantages really depend on what type of person you are.
If you think that you have a lot of talent but find it very difficult to make contacts then I'd say Film School is for you as networking becomes much easier that way.
HOWEVER, there are people that have that ability and find film School to be a waste of time.
Making good movies is very hard regardless of going to film school or not so I think that people who TRULY want to make movies will find a way to make them.
I signed up for a film class in community college this Autumn.
Nice! Hope you enjoy it!
@@MikeyGleason me too
I want to be a surgeon but I don't have the skills or patience to go to medical school. Can you please teach me in 3 min? Thanks.
I was actually ready to take notes...
Funny video! Lol. This is very informative. I'm teaching myself film because my dad said no to film school. Well, he didn't EXACTLY say no, but his reaction was enough.
People say film school is about making connections, which I’m sure it is. But do you really need to spend 100,000$ to make connections?
This is great but, I think it's funny that the second he starts talking about how important sound is, a crappy bass beat starts playing that totally drowns him out and adds fluctuations to his volume. Maybe he's ambiguously giving us an example of bad sound?
I don't know about film school but your humour and delivery was best ❤
Please say: "will the real Slim Shady please stand up?" I just want to hear you say it. Thank you.
I thought every film school student makes a coming-of-age film about a teenager being confused/gay/neglected/unsure of what they want in life/child of single mother/crazy parents or siblings that just happens to mirror their own life.
I have ideas for movies and short films but I've tried and I really need to know how to direct, how to edit and most importantly, be perfectionist. Usually when I'm working on a film the only thing I have clear is the story, the rest I decide when I'm already in the process of filming like music, characters, ambiance, etc. But after a few weeks I think of another film and throw my project down the drain so it comes looking pretty bad, patience, passion and perfectionism are the key. Wish I had gone to film school to know where to start and how to film correctly.
+Ann Hey Ann! Thanks for watching. I may not be the best person to give advice, but I wanted to tell you this. Make stuff. And finish it. And then make more stuff. That's how people get better. It's natural to lose interest and want to move on to something else, but learning how to finish videos is one of the toughest things there is to learn. Also watch this video featuring Ira Glass speaking. I agree with every word he says. ua-cam.com/video/PbC4gqZGPSY/v-deo.html I hope to see your films in the theater one day :)
Mikey Gleason Oh My! I wish I had seen that video years ago when my inspiration dropped! Thank YOU a LOT for showing me this! And you were right, every word he says it's true, I really needed it.
+Ann I am in film school but my advice will be to make movies that you can connect with ,things that you are passionate about ,forget about being perfect just go with your guts and finish it. What kind of things do you like to see in a movie, what don't you like seeing in a movie,when you answer these questions you will be able to make movies that you like which will help you finish it. Another thing keep it simple and stupid don't go for complicated camera moves or storylines. Good luck
My advice is: make a lot of stuff, like with your cellphone. Look up at exercises and do it yourself. It doesnt have to be a story, its just practice. Make your version of the kuloshev effect for example, stuff like that. Things that get you to think about framing, pacing and editing.
Hi I’m really late but if you happen to reply that’d be great. I’m stuck in the same place as you. I’m building a film series of unconnected movies based in a fictional town. If you’d like to be apart of that, please message back(:
Starts with "Audio and lightning is important", shows up overexposed first thing.
Seriously Mikey, Where were you back in the 80's. Coulda saved me a lot of mula. Nicely done.
why's he sound like eminem
trying to find one of these for school in general, at this point I'm 80% sure that what we are forced to do is harder than anything we will encounter in the workforce.
Actually you a hundred percent correct
i did 5 weeks of film studies and dropped it for something else, this pretty much everything that i had learned in that class
If you want to make movies, don't go to film school.
The lesson here is to never go to film school otherwise you would have to make clickbaity videos like this to pay your rent. Awesome advice👍
Woah Spielberg did Indy and JP. I recognize the sarcasm but he deserves more than "Ww2 and aliens" :P
Man started out the gate with straight shock value
The eye cut scene still gives me the creeps
Read what happened to Pierre Batcheff and Simone Mareuil - it'll give you more
You forgot the actually important advice. Which is "Film school grades DO NOT MATTER". Film school is a platform to have people around you who will work on your stuff for free. That is what you should focus on. Making stuff. Because stuff will get you work, grades will get you nothing.
Everybody should go to film school? Really? If film school is the key to success, then why have some of hollywood's biggest names PUBLICLY shunned film school? Quentin Tarantino and Seth Macfarlane have both said it was a waste of their time and dropped out. Spielberg said he got some tips, but film school was not the key to his success. In fact, of all the people that have publicly stated they completed film school, none of them have any humility and they all have an ego the size of texas. The same could be said of most business graduates.
Oh, and furthermore, Mr. Mickey apparently forgot camera basics or hired someone of no experience to shoot this video because he doesnt have the proper head room.
To be fair, most people aren't going to be the next Tarantino, P.T. Anderson, Spielberg, and the like. Those guys are born storytellers with a keen vision who worked really hard and, lets face it, got pretty lucky. All of those directors have three attributes on their side: Natural talent, grueling work ethic, and unshakable perseverance. Most people are missing that last one, and thats what separates the people that succeed and the people that fail.
Not negating your argument, but a lot of this was meant to be a joke. The Muppets Take Manhattan is not actually an essential experience.
jed52 have fun pulling cables...
Bro u were so right. I just finished my first year of film school. And last semester there's a girl who made a film about suicide and another girl made a film about sexual assault.
So you got a massive student loan to get a refresher on film trivia?
I love you now. You have made me so happy. Thanks for this!!!! Like and subscribed
film school gives you the time and resources to try and fail as many times as you need without too much risk. plus theres a lot of opportunity for networking and internships. most of the film related internships ive come across require you to be a student in a film-related program. you dont need film school to succeed, but its not completely useless either
Now we can watch Mikey Gleason while we eat.
I know this is a funny video, but I don't give a damn, I took notes
*Notes*
1. Audio, lighting etc, are all important, but without a story you are fucked.
2. Study these people mentioned:
Michael Bay
Spielburg
Akira Kurosawa
Fellini
Scorcese
Jean Luc-Godard
George Lucas
Hitchcock
Francis Ford Cappola
Woody Allen
Orson Welles
John Woo
Tarantino
Altman
3. Study these people, cause comment-people mentioned them:
Luis Buñuel, Stanley Kubrick, John Huston, Michelangelo Antonioni, Pedro Almodovar, Dario Argento, David Fincher, Steven Soderbergh, Christopher Nolan, Peter Jackson, James Cameron. Lana & Andy Watchowsky, Paul Thomas Anderson
4. Film school is a creativity-sucking place that helps you understand the theoretical part of film making, but you should do things on your own. Use film school, instead of letting it use you.
2022 and this is still hilarious.
So am I the only one who wants to be Jodorowsky too much?
You're not alone :)
Pfft, since the day i was born
>graduate of film school
>improper headroom
Is it just me or is this guy trying to be funny but not succeeding?
He has a very sardonic sense of humor which I guess doesn't fly with a lot of people.
I love it, and this is the first and only video I've seen of his so far.
If you want sardonic humour google frankie boyle. This is lite for me.
its not just you
it's not just you
Come on, guys, humor is subjective.
this guy's voice sounds like ai generated Eminem
Thank you! I hate to be cynical, so I love it when someone is it for me.
He said they mostly watched films all day. But this doesn't sound like "film school". It sounds like "Film studies". Most film schools have hands on learning, and i think NYU would especially have hands on learning.
No Ingmar Bergman?
The guy´s an idiot...face it...
I thought film school was mostlly Citizen Kane and the Odessa Steps sequence from Battleship Potemkin. Maybe that was just film school 50 years ago.
fuck the haters lol I laughed - good vid!
Bonnie Venti ditto
"What were you doing when u were 25?"
**laughs in almost 14 and gonna be in the 10th grade in april**
Ha! That gives you 11 years to make your own Citizen Kane. Get going!
@@MikeyGleason I came back to this 2 years later.
Gonna be 16 now in February.
Thank you for this.
Graduating school next year😭
I would add the seven Samurai ! To number 5
If I was making a list of my favorite films, Seven Samurai would definitely be on it. thanks for watching!
Mikey Gleason yeah bro great video ! Btw I have a project I want to start It's a mini series. I'm producing this project I'm renting and using some of the equipment and basic gear and I'm directing, editing , and filming however I don't have any experience in films/series and I'm not in a Union Most of my previous work has been just directing, shooting and editing small music videos but I recently got the script for this project since this is my first project this Big! i want to take it seriously however My crew which are mostly friends that want to help they don't mind doing it for free but most of my cast is people that would like to act o But I can't pay them what I want to know is if there is a contract or any other way that can help me keep them in the series till further notice without paying them in legal terms ?Or do you know any info about the legal process of a project like this I want this project to go by the "rules" can anybody help me ?
if you're not paying them then they're not obligated to do anything for you. key to keeping a solid team throughout production is building a strong enough story that the team can believe in and want to see into fruition. treat them well, and be a good enough leader to where their faith in you or the project won't dwindle away. also, try and provide snacks/lunch on set
Samuel Alemayhu I see thank you man ! Btw have you had any experience using 4K or 8k cameras like red cameras ?
That is a good movie... for someone who hates America.
Muppets is the best!
I went to film school...it wasn't an education, but it wasn't a total waste either. When I moved to Hollywood, I actually kinda, sorta knew what I was doing. Then I moved back home and worked in hotels for 6 years. Then I moved back to Hollywood, and worked on other people's movies. In the end, it didn't hurt going to school, but I regret moving straight to Hollywood instead of going the straight independent route. Lot of wasted time looking for work instead of making films.
Please can someone give me advice!! I'm very creative and love the genre of photography and documentary filming, but to go to film school seems very risky because you either make it or you don't, it isn't guaranteed. I'm only 16, I live in London and I'm having to choose my a-levels in a week and I just don't know whether to pursue a career in film or try find a safer option for a creative career?
You don't have to start in the film industry right away. You could also first pursue another career that more or less guarantees you a safe job and that you kind of have interest in. That way you'll always have a plan B. You don't have to go to film school to be good at creating movies, although it is a great advantage. Learn it by yourself while doing something else. Help some film crews out and network, study movies, start independent projects etc. And one day you might still find a way into the film industry and produce documentaries. You could also try to pursue a career related to film (media, management, editing etc.) which can lead you to more opportunities. I think the most risky part about film school is that you don't have a plan B. It can be fun and rewarding, but there is no guarantee to actually succeed. I hope I could help.
A UA-camr called D4Darious made a video on film schools that was quite informative. Also check out the video of DSLRGuide in which he explains how to become a filmmaker without attending film school (The video is called "How to learn Filmmaking without film school").
A few thoughts: 1. Thanks for watching my stupid video. 2. If film school is financially an option for you and you have a real passion for it, I say go ahead. It's fun and in today's world, there are plenty of jobs that relate to it even if you don't end up making full length feature films. 3. If it's financially not an option, there are lots of other ways to learn about film. So many great videos. So many great films to watch. You can educate yourself as much as you want to. Really. It's entirely up to you. Watch as much as you can. And make as much as you can. If you are able, to find like-minded creative people to collaborate with, to bounce ideas off of, to challenge you, and to grow with as artists. 4. Watch this video that I keep sharing. It's Ira Glass talking about creativity and being a beginner. ua-cam.com/video/3ResTHKVxf4/v-deo.html 5. If you're still reading this comment, I'm happy to point you in the direction of films that you really should see to start to understand the power/depth/awesomeness of cinema. 6. And this is important, even if you don't go to film school, even if you have to start working some job to make ends meet, even if you have to put your dream on hold for a little while, don't give up on it. Just because you're not in film school at age 19 or 20 doesn't mean you won't eventually be a great filmmaker. 7. Don't let a lack of equipment be an excuse. Most of our phones are good enough to make Star Wars. We just need to come up with our own Star Wars and make it. Good luck!
TheMovieJoker thanks so much, you really helped
Mikey Gleason thanks! i think I'll find a backup career whilst still pursuing my love for filming
Okay but here's another short you should definitely watch: la jetée
I really love this it made me laugh. Great job.
+Tyna Ezenma Thanks for watching!
I want to go to film school after I earned my GED. GED 🎓 is first then film school my dream / next step.
I want to learn skills, I want to write , act, direct, & produce my films after I get my film degree, in the future I hope to have my own film studio so I want to learn what I need to learn in film school
It’s already yours ♥️
Created Star Wars, then he ruined it, how true.
Did you just assume my age?!
I would love to see this video remade with some more female directors on the “directors you need to know” and “movies you need to watch” lists. Maybe by you or maybe a younger friend of yours who has gone to film school more recently when they may be teaching more female directors.
I genuinely hope that more female directors are being taught. Thinking back (this was 20 years ago) it was definitely a white-male-centric curriculum. Very hopeful that has expanded.
LOL, the only movie he mentioned that i have not seen is the Muppets one. But maybe i did saw it when i was a kid, i do remember seeing the one where Gonzo turns out to be FROM SPACEEEEE!
Hey all,
So because I’m doing a project for class that involves me trying to find film students, aspiring filmmakers or just film nerds who wishes they could work on major blockbuster movies (doesn't matter which category you are in), I’m reaching out to see if anyone out here is willing to have a quick conversation with me about your experience with film and aspirations?
Your responses will be featured in our education project. ;)
Please drop me a personal message if you’re interested.
Thank you!
dude, i'd like to talk to you about that!
Drop me a gmail message! Not sure how to do that via UA-cam though...
+Vickicup you could give me your email. If not, mine is quiquetortos77@gmail.com
Oh my god. Great video. Thank you
You made me laugh with that "Why do you hate america" bit!!
As someone who went to film school, I concur.
kinda sound like a younger eminem or something
This video really helped me in affirmed to me that I am missing nothing GOOD by going to film school.🤣🤣🤣
I was going to goto film school but was already making films before that. I spoke to the guy in charge at the school said right out that I didn't need it because I was already doing it. You DO NOT need to goto film school. It's a choice. And the Muppets take Manhattan? Really? Now let's ask you a question? Where are you at after going to film school? Are you out there making films? Are you working in HollyWood? The most you'll be doing when out of film school is a crew job(Usually a PA). Film school is good for networking that's about it. But go waste $40,000 or more on film school when you can be making films now.
HERE`S MY MAN! You are a hundred percent right!
I completely agree!
I was waiting for this comment! I couldn't agree more @timeknowsfilms
Isn't this exactly the video's point?
It's the unfortunate truth, you honestly have a better chance working in filmmaking with a business degree for example.
haha, so basically go to the book store, take a book about film making that you consider buying (but don't buy), scim through it for five minutes... done!
Woody Allen but no Bergman? Seriously? Woody Allen himself is a big fan of Bergman. I bought my Seventh Seal Blu-Ray and there is a 20 minute video of Allen praising Bergman. Also, the way you spoke about Kurosawa is just plain disrespectful, please don't ever do it again.
No Kubrick as well.
no hitchcock !
Martín Macías Wait what?! Was it not obvious that this was satirical?
I don't think this guy went to film school. Not much mention on the three major film movements and their influence either..... there is a list of things this guy missed out.... and I never went to film school...............
This video made me realize I could do more with the money for filmschool and instead buy cameras and learn on my own experiences
I enjoyed the video! Thank you for making it!
Went to film school. Didn't check the angle before shooting 🤣
How do u spell the 4th film u suggested in the list....!!
Wat is that man! Clouds intercut with razor sweeping through eyes
.?
It's Un Chien Andalou. You can see it here: ua-cam.com/video/BIKYF07Y4kA/v-deo.html Thanks for watching!
Guess what's better that going to film school? Working on an actual film.
I love being able to be an elitist! LOL
"I have had it with these motherfuking snakes on this motherfucking plane!"
- R2D2