Ep. 44: Landing at Class C Airport | ATC Radio Communications

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  • Опубліковано 18 лис 2024

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  • @cigarsboozeandnews9726
    @cigarsboozeandnews9726 8 років тому +176

    This is the best instructional video I have seen in a long time. you must be a great instructor. keep them coming.

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  8 років тому +10

      Thanks! Safe flying!

    • @BradenPitts_
      @BradenPitts_ 5 років тому +4

      @@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 I am currently pursuing my PPL, but I've had a lot of anxiety about radio calls. Watching this video and listening to you explain how and WHY you're doing everything made a big impact on me. This video, honestly, just sold me on your program.

    • @qbw8834
      @qbw8834 4 роки тому +3

      Indeed, great way to explain and helps understand things more in depth

    • @kurihara9023
      @kurihara9023 2 роки тому

      yup the best conversation that buy my smile.

  • @signmanbob3834
    @signmanbob3834 6 років тому +95

    I love how you explain every detail of what you are doing, not assuming your viewer knows but breaking down even the smallest things to clear explanations. Your an amazing teacher and your videos are awesome.

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  6 років тому +12

      Glad it helps! Share it with friends and on Facebook!

    • @KH-wf7bq
      @KH-wf7bq 2 роки тому

      I needed every bit of that, talking to ATC and approach can be slightly confusing for me sometimes

  • @alecpanayotov
    @alecpanayotov 2 роки тому +9

    I love the diagrams of where the plane is overtop the sectional chart, extremely helpful view!

  • @buzzedpancake2730
    @buzzedpancake2730 8 років тому +24

    I rarely leave comments on videos, but this one was a must. Thank You for this highly informative video! As a student pilot, this answered every question I had about VFR approaches into class C. (I have only experienced class G/E and D airports) Looking forward to viewing your other videos, Thanks!

  • @alfredoaraujo7756
    @alfredoaraujo7756 Рік тому +2

    Beautiful class of approaching class Charlie Airport. Thanks

  • @john6283a
    @john6283a 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent refresher! Thank you for taking the time to make and share this video. Visiting the low altitude world is so foreign to us mountain pilots. Our typical trips have runways or airstrips between 5,000' to 8,000' msl, so we don't have a lot of wiggle in the throttle to maintain manifold pressure. Thank you so much for the ride along.

  • @jonathanmoore9661
    @jonathanmoore9661 6 років тому +5

    I'm heading to SWIC flight school in a couple of months and hope I get an instructor as well spoken and enthusiastic as you, great video.

  • @millestep9241
    @millestep9241 5 років тому +2

    Great instruction! I fly to my first Class C Airport tomorrow and then fly back at night. My instructor sent me this link and it’s helped tremendously 🙏🏻✈️😎

  • @ohtofly941
    @ohtofly941 7 років тому

    I will support you through Patreon. How lucky are we, the new and old pilots, to have people out there supporting general aviation and dispensing their knowledge to us. We are all empowered now to have all the information we need to be safe and current as we walk up to our airplane. I have been chair-flying with you and appreciate all of the skills that you are sharing. Thanks FLY8MA.

  • @j.m.1389
    @j.m.1389 2 роки тому +1

    I love the format you used on this video

  • @TheRiveraGallery
    @TheRiveraGallery 7 років тому +4

    This is a great video. As a flight attendant and current flight student, this is one of the most accurate videos I have seen. Sounds just like communications on a 737 landing in SRQ. Clear explanations, thank you.

  • @JankleTV
    @JankleTV 4 роки тому +4

    Great video! I'm going to fly into SRQ for the first time this month (it'll be my first charlie). I'm a new pilot with only 220 hours so great to see this kind of instruction and great reminders on the little stuff (radio calls, trim, etc). Earned a sub today! Keep up the great work.

  • @Fraiyia
    @Fraiyia 5 років тому +6

    Good flight! Love the progressive taxi bit.I once used that myself . The controller huffed . Lol .

  • @kennedyrogers364
    @kennedyrogers364 3 роки тому +1

    You're videos are truly the best

  • @jivadaya6439
    @jivadaya6439 8 років тому +1

    I have yet to start flying but am studying and using sim for practicing ATC (Pilotedge). I really like your commentary, attention to detail, and clear communication. Great job! I have learned many things along the way but what you said about descending by reducing power and leaving it trimmed, etc... just clicked. Pure gold - Thanks so much :)

  • @lorrainehallett6905
    @lorrainehallett6905 2 роки тому

    That may be the best and simplest Trim lesson I’ve had - keep up the great work and I’ll try it next week.
    Scott

  • @marktwain368
    @marktwain368 7 років тому +9

    For newbies, this video is perfect. Covers all the contingencies and procedures in a clear and practical way. Thanks very much!

  • @briancollins4569
    @briancollins4569 8 років тому +99

    "traffic please advise" that grinds my gears.. student pilots please do not pick up that bad habit.

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  8 років тому +40

      Haha, its one of the worst things I hear on the radio. However I do occasionally use "conflicting traffic please advise" as around our airport there are several guys who do not broadcast and only listen, but will broadcast if there is a potential conflict. If I think I see one of them in the pattern, I'll usually use that particular phraseology to try to squeeze a position report out of them, just something you have to do in this particular area.

    • @briancollins4569
      @briancollins4569 8 років тому +15

      FLY8MA.com Flight Training you are right there some guys you have to strangle radio calls out of.. drives me nuts. if everyone just did it correctly you wouldn't need "fake" calls like that. typically i don't like the please advise call because it can cause a hog tie on the frequency with everyone responding and stepping on each other.

    • @scottfranco1962
      @scottfranco1962 7 років тому +21

      I heard this complaint (or ones like it) a lot, and switched to just reporting points in pattern (on 45, on downwind, etc.). It is true that just reporting your own position usually gets others to come back with their positions.

    • @dalejohnson9045
      @dalejohnson9045 5 років тому

      Brian Collins I

    • @esalenchik
      @esalenchik 5 років тому +1

      Scott Franco I wish calling my location worked to get others to do the same at our Class G airport!

  • @WoutervanTiel
    @WoutervanTiel 3 роки тому +1

    Totally awesome, I am a student flying into KICT today with my CFI. Great prep for this new exercise.

  • @alanmohlman3530
    @alanmohlman3530 7 років тому +8

    Haven't flown in 30 years, scheduled an hour next week in a da 40 to see if I still got it. This video has me stoked! Nicely done.

  • @user-hp6lg3tm7d
    @user-hp6lg3tm7d 3 роки тому

    This video is a life saver! I have my first student cross country solo coming up real soon.

  • @edroman2042
    @edroman2042 7 місяців тому

    Awesome Video!!! Cleared any fears I had for landing at Class C.

  • @THEMilkSHAIKH
    @THEMilkSHAIKH 3 роки тому +1

    Learning to fly on VATSIM. This was very helpful.

  • @JamesWoodrow
    @JamesWoodrow 7 років тому

    I am coming across to FL from Australia next year for a flying holiday. This video was very helpful in helping me understand US ATC procedures.

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  7 років тому

      Really glad to hear it all helps out! Stop by and see us in KVNC when you're in FL and be sure to share our new site with your friends on Facebook and around the airport! www.fly8ma.com/

  • @johnnyckrock
    @johnnyckrock 7 років тому +1

    Great video - I like the fact that you continue to explain all the basic stuff you're doing to fly the plane in the gaps between radio calls. That's very helpful for a beginning student like me.

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  7 років тому

      Glad it helps! Share us on Facebook and around the airport with your friends! Check out the Ground School at www.fly8ma.com !

  • @raymondlancaster3355
    @raymondlancaster3355 5 років тому +1

    About as good as instruction can get. You used to have to pay to try to get information like this and it was rarely this good. Very impressive.

  • @julianmotta2453
    @julianmotta2453 2 роки тому

    Awesome video, not only by sharing the way of talking with the ATC......flight technique, check list usage safety....endless if you watch closely.....keep posting

  • @the1chasman
    @the1chasman 7 років тому +1

    This video answered so many questions, I can't believe it. Also I liked you leaving in all the communications from ATC. Now I know what to expect when flying into Class Charlie airports.

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  7 років тому +1

      Glad it helps out! Be sure to share us on Facebook and around the airport with your aviation friends!

  • @msbase3809
    @msbase3809 8 років тому +2

    I didn't like going to towered airports but after watching this video, I felt like challenging again into class C or D airports.

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  8 років тому +2

      Give it a shot! If you have questions, just ask the controllers, they're almost always happy to help. Just preface it with, "xyz tower, you have time for a question?"

  • @Robodebt1010
    @Robodebt1010 Рік тому

    Great vid! As a beginner, I found this very useful.

  • @rasim81
    @rasim81 3 роки тому +1

    Great video!!! Great multitasking skills!!! Thanks for sharing!

  • @jbcoupet1
    @jbcoupet1 4 роки тому +2

    You are great, man. I wish I were in Florida. I would complete my training with you. Great stuff.

  • @919dds
    @919dds 5 років тому +1

    Good instruction. Answered many questions. Thank you!

  • @KanoaDavis
    @KanoaDavis 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent Video and great instructions from a true and very Peofessional Pilot and Instructor.
    Very informative, for new Pilots and even for those who are just interested in Aviation.
    I am a Tower Controller in Class C from Kahului Airport, Maui, Hawai'i, and I highly recommend this video to others. Job well done!
    Mahalo nui loa!
    Thank you very much!
    Aloha!

  • @tedvanessendelft2089
    @tedvanessendelft2089 3 роки тому +1

    This is a great video, you have a great instructional ability.

  • @hectortorres1812
    @hectortorres1812 4 роки тому +1

    Great pilot with a lot of knowledge.

  • @MrGaborseres
    @MrGaborseres 3 роки тому

    The confidence and the experience of this guy blows my brain 🤯..... I almost think you would have to be a robot to register all the instructions from atc......I love all this and at the same time it is terrifying to me.... 🤔.... I took a number of flights on a single engine airplane with a pilot..... Loved it 🙂

    • @shadowtheimpure
      @shadowtheimpure 2 роки тому +1

      You don't have to be a machine, in many cases when you're addressing ATC you know exactly what kind of instructions you're expecting based on your most recent communication with them.
      A good example is an IFR flight, you're departing your origin airport and tower hands you off to departure. You know, by training, the first thing you need to do is listen for at least 10 seconds for a good opening and then report your callsign, current altitude, and last cleared altitude. At that point, departure will confirm your location with the phrase 'radar contact' and then will normally clear you for whatever cruise altitude you filed in your flight plan or will clear you for an intermediary altitude depending on traffic and conditions. Additionally, you may be given vectors to join the route you scheduled in your flight plan. That may or may not happen depending on how far off of runway heading you need to go to enter your planned route.

  • @wdufour54
    @wdufour54 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video; very helpful including care for your engine. thanks

  • @davidvanniekerk3813
    @davidvanniekerk3813 4 роки тому

    Dankie Joh. It can be very tricky. If the tower don't give notice to came down/ lose height. You will be to high for a landing. So you must have extra fuel. Your command of English must also be very good.

  • @jonathankwok7478
    @jonathankwok7478 3 роки тому +1

    You just made it so easy.

  • @isabeaoctel
    @isabeaoctel 7 років тому

    Probably the best instruction video out there. Thxs.

  • @ArthurW
    @ArthurW 5 років тому +4

    Awesome video. I have one question: when you contact approach you give your position but not altitude. I thought you were supposed to give altitude too?
    Thanks a lot

  • @drsudz
    @drsudz 2 роки тому +1

    Man, those Cherokee's have a ton of headroom!!

  • @vadermike7772
    @vadermike7772 8 років тому +1

    Fabulous video, full of tons of useful info, and little tips here and there that i havnt heard anywhere else yet. Great job, keep the vids coming, i love them!

  • @j.tazcona8199
    @j.tazcona8199 8 місяців тому

    Excellent instruction thank you so much for your help on my fly. I’m planning to get my private pilot license and your video It’s very helpful and helps me a lot. Thank you so much.

  • @AB-qn9cs
    @AB-qn9cs 7 років тому

    FINALLY, an aviation youtuber who doesn't try make his voice crack with voice overs...

  • @PaulGarthAviation
    @PaulGarthAviation 5 років тому

    This brings back memories - my home airport Bayport (23N) was a class G cutout out of Long Island Macarthur's (ISP) class C airspace. I got good at getting a code from ISP Clearance and then got a Class C Transition on departure. All Cross Countries had Flight Following!

  • @stevenhollinger3183
    @stevenhollinger3183 3 роки тому +2

    6:00 N156EW is one of the planes from the flight school I go to, small world!

  • @argueallday
    @argueallday 2 роки тому

    Terrific video, very very clear explanations, and I love the plate overlays. Thank you

  • @18gnpg33
    @18gnpg33 2 роки тому +1

    Tons of useful information thanks a lot 8MA!

  • @michaelearlgrey
    @michaelearlgrey 5 років тому +2

    Thanks man! This is encouraging. I can do this.

  • @acnorea123
    @acnorea123 6 років тому +2

    Great instructional video. It would be awesome if you could transcribe relevant controller interaction, especially since you were also talking to the audience.

  • @DanielCharry1025
    @DanielCharry1025 4 роки тому +2

    This is a great video. Thank you.

  • @BrentDanley
    @BrentDanley 3 роки тому

    Awesome video. Excellent reminders and tips. 👍🏼✈️

  • @EagleFlight2007
    @EagleFlight2007 6 років тому

    You have the most thorough channel on youtube for clarity of procedures. Keep it up!

  • @JohnMGreiner
    @JohnMGreiner 8 років тому

    Amazingly helpful for student or even experienced pilots. I amazed at how much is going on in the cockpit and airspace, but your able to maintain the training portion at the same time. Look forward to more like this...

  • @hassansultani8978
    @hassansultani8978 4 роки тому

    Nice of you so far

  • @michaelkoser8128
    @michaelkoser8128 6 років тому

    Love the video as I am returning back to flying after 10 years. Just finished a little over 5 hours with instructor and ready to log PIC time. My only comment/request is for you to speak a little slower. I had to back up quite a few times to get all the relevant information. Thank you for these videos.

  • @Alex_is_flying_sims
    @Alex_is_flying_sims 2 роки тому +1

    Very nice and clear videos! Love it. Question;
    you said that if the controller tells you to maintain an altitude of 2100ft, you have to keep it until advised.
    But I don't understand WHEN this restriction is released? The approach instructed you to descent to 1600ft later on, but why are you allow to descend futher 1600ft and not staying at this instructed altitude? The tower frequency switch? What does allow you to disregard this second descent altitude instruction?
    Hope you get my question (I am not an english native speaker)
    Thanks for your help!

  • @AndyMc1952
    @AndyMc1952 6 років тому +1

    Best C access vid ive seen

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  6 років тому

      Thanks! Share the vid and the new training VLOG with your friends! ua-cam.com/video/0MGOMy8vNN0/v-deo.html

  • @KimWentworth-y8e
    @KimWentworth-y8e 4 місяці тому

    Good point about keeping the engine cool. It's hot where I fly.

  • @BlueMagicx
    @BlueMagicx 8 років тому

    I came here to learn as much as I can in preparation for my Part 107 suav test!

  • @denisandr4610
    @denisandr4610 3 роки тому

    Very helpful! Thank you!

  • @TheFormerTeam
    @TheFormerTeam 2 роки тому

    Saying "In the box" is a bad habit when flying internationally as it is commonly said in the US but not outside of it so that phrase can confuse controllers. Reading back "Squawk 0164" is what is expected. I remember hearing a story about a captain getting after his first officer who kept saying that, not sure if it was word of mouth or from a yt video because it's been awhile but I do know it's not the best way to put it.
    Great video and thank you for putting yourself out here. And nice landing :)

  • @mike198383
    @mike198383 2 роки тому

    This was a great video as i will be planning to Fly from KCFO (Space Port) to Colorado Springs (COS) which is Class C airspace for my Cross Country.

  • @dadas2170
    @dadas2170 7 років тому

    This is awesome stuff...I am in my commercial training now but in my humble opinion still alot to learn. Your vids inspire me - thanks for that.

  • @gvrose1
    @gvrose1 8 років тому

    Thanks for the Radio communications guidance. Very clear and helpful for a newbie!

  • @cmocha1
    @cmocha1 5 років тому

    Great instruction ! Very informative. Learned a lot & plan to re-watch again to pick up more. Thanks for making this video.

  • @mountainof7
    @mountainof7 Рік тому

    Great video. Why does tower have you 600 feet above traffic pattern whilst you're in the pattern? Or are you a few miles outside of the pattern? If so, why call down, base etc?

  • @jeandupond1709
    @jeandupond1709 7 років тому +3

    Great videos. That give me a chance to work my english.

  • @RusscanFLY
    @RusscanFLY 4 роки тому +1

    I have been struggling a little with understanding airspace classifications, and this video helped tremendously!

  • @DONphantasmo
    @DONphantasmo 6 років тому

    Great video. You guys need to do more of these. They are great, easy to understand and makes sense. Thanks, and keep it up!!!

  • @ctn830
    @ctn830 8 років тому

    Great video. ATC comms is not as easy as I thought. There should be more videos on this

  • @JohnSmith-bc1pe
    @JohnSmith-bc1pe 5 років тому +1

    Great video! Thank you.

  • @thedjihobbyguy6104
    @thedjihobbyguy6104 5 років тому +2

    Love your. Video about flying would like to see more to learn more about maps ur the man👏👏✌✌✌👍👍👍✔✔✔🙌

  • @pierce873
    @pierce873 2 роки тому +1

    How does ATC know you’re vfr and what your plane can do for example they won’t tell you to do something that a commercial jet could do?

  • @daddyrabbit835
    @daddyrabbit835 8 років тому +1

    I am studying for my Part 107 test and find this fascinating.

  • @leethomas5397
    @leethomas5397 7 років тому +1

    im gonna get my licence thx for your info,,, ill keep watching

  • @cherfieldm
    @cherfieldm 7 років тому

    Thank you so much, even though I'm not a pilot, but I enjoyed watching your flying skills.

  • @Fiftyx60
    @Fiftyx60 Рік тому

    As a student, I didn't know that most ground control frequencies start with 121. Thanks for the tip!

  • @SmssouthafricaZa
    @SmssouthafricaZa 7 років тому

    Brilliant training! Well done Sir.

  • @philbrammer3632
    @philbrammer3632 2 роки тому

    Great vid. Surprised though you had carby heat off on a long low power descent. Your vids are great 👍

  • @MikeRoam2
    @MikeRoam2 7 років тому

    Thanks for the videos and instruction: I've been taking flight training at Venice and it is great to see the familiar airfields, especially since I flew that trip from KVNC to KSRQ with my instructor just 4 days ago. Fellow student pilots should notice that at 1:49 there's a radio call with words "please advise" which FAA discourages.
    "... departing runway 2-3, conflicting traffic please advise."
    I wonder if there's a better way to say this at non-tower airports. I know that we've got to alert all traffic, even the quiet ones. I've tried announcing "..., ready to depart rwy __" after my runup, then turning the plane (in the runup area) back to look for traffic on base and final, then announcing "..., departing rwy __" before finally taxiing past the hold-short line onto the runway. Does this sound reasonable to experienced pilots?
    AIM Section 4-1-9 "Traffic Advisory Practices at Airports Without Operating Control Towers"
    has (4-1-9 g. Self-Announce Position and/or Intentions) which says,
    "Pilots stating, “Traffic in the area, please advise” is not a recognized Self−Announce Position and/or Intention phrase and should not be used under any condition."
    (I'm a rookie, trying to do things right in preparation for check ride. "Should not be used under any condition" sounds like a pretty strong suggestion.)
    AIM offers instead, at least to get wind and runway info, in (section 4-1-9 h. Unicom Communications Procedures):
    2. Recommended UNICOM phraseologies:
    (a) Inbound
    PHRASEOLOGY− FREDERICK UNICOM CESSNA EIGHT ZERO ONE TANGO FOXTROT 10 MILES SOUTHEAST DESCENDING THROUGH (altitude) LANDING FREDERICK, REQUEST WIND AND RUNWAY INFORMATION FREDERICK."
    ps: info for non-pilots or non-Americans: "AIM" is the "Aeronautical Information Manual (Official Guide to Basic Flight Information and ATC Procedures)" document from the USA's Federal Aviation Administration.

    • @MikeRoam2
      @MikeRoam2 7 років тому

      PS AIM is available as a free download(pdf file) from
      www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/media/AIM_Basic_dtd_10-12-17.pdf
      and related documents are available at www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/
      pps: to find the pages mentioned above in the pdf file, just search for "please advise" which only occurs the one time in the whole book.

  • @DSeptarov
    @DSeptarov 6 років тому +1

    Watched half of a clip and just gave up waiting for Class C airport operations, but got the idea how trim airplane. Nice, thanks!

  • @edb7742
    @edb7742 2 роки тому +1

    Just found your channel and subscribed. Great video, as an aspiring pilot the explanations are very helpful. Does this airplane have ADSB-in? If not, do you sometimes request flight following so that the controllers will advise you of nearby traffic?

  • @janicedavid9812
    @janicedavid9812 8 років тому +1

    Thanks for the info I am UK PPL and will be flying from Naples FL during my holiday.

  • @NicksWhipShop
    @NicksWhipShop 6 років тому

    Thanks for the video man. Haven't flown into C in a while and this helped.

  • @FWDSlip
    @FWDSlip 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video, thanks :)

  • @crazyc99
    @crazyc99 3 роки тому

    Outstanding!
    Thank you sir!

  • @jmc75087
    @jmc75087 6 років тому +1

    Great video! I learned so much.

  • @CMCSeahawk
    @CMCSeahawk Рік тому +1

    Excellent!

  • @JB_Hobbies
    @JB_Hobbies Рік тому

    Nice. Makes me want to do my first flight into a Class C soon. Any advice for finding information on whether to expect landing fees and ramp fees? Are they the same thing?

  • @MichaelRicksAherne
    @MichaelRicksAherne 4 роки тому

    So useful. I have my first cross-country coming up soon, and I'm a little nervous about using the radio outside my home airport. I've gotten used to the controllers here, but it took a while...

  • @njblanco10
    @njblanco10 4 роки тому

    Thank you, Jon! Learning so much.

  • @hemsmar
    @hemsmar 8 років тому

    You may have answered this on another video, but can you explain the logic of your landing procedure as it relates to landing with the right wing down so that the plane first lands on the right tire and you seem to hold off the left for quite some time. What is the reason for this and you can get geeky on us in your explanation. That's the reason why I watch your instruction because of your explanations. Thanks, and keep these coming as they are very helpful

  • @TheLastDay-BobReese
    @TheLastDay-BobReese 7 років тому

    Very impressive - great instruction!

  • @frizsld6793
    @frizsld6793 6 років тому

    Are you an instructor? I wish you were my instructor, you make it very easy!

  • @davepeoples
    @davepeoples 7 років тому +1

    Outstanding instructional video!!

  • @afrock1000
    @afrock1000 2 роки тому

    Is there a particular reason you don’t use the shoulder harness?

  • @charliekeyes6206
    @charliekeyes6206 6 років тому

    You did an awesome job explaining this thank you very much