Aimee, please just start off by being "harsh" with Gamma in the future. This video worked so much better than your previous one due to it. I wasn't big on the previous video. It seemed off due to the "softness". This one brought it home though. Let us have it without sugarcoating. We can take it and prefer it. :)
SOOOOOOO TRUE! Dude, I've always loved it when people were more mean to me, it's how I've made some of my greatest friendships to date. It proves they can cut past the bullshit.
''I hate to be so harsh...'' This is the softest that you will get from Gamma, acknowledging to know others dont operate like that. Gamma language is harsh. Thank you for the video Aimee
The reason why I’m not switching the J vs P dichotomy is actually very simple: I want people to switch over to socionics, and ditch MBTI altogether. But before I get to that level, I can’t start off with mentioning the socionics names because, who the hell comes into personality theory from socionics? It’s usually the other way around. For those freaking out about the transition, don’t worry! Remember, your MBTI test result does not mean anything! And if the results do not mean anything, why even consider the results? For example, what’s the point of me saying I’m an INFJ in MBTI, if that doesn’t mean anything at all? So let’s just disregard it altogether. If you have no intentions of using MBTI as a self-awareness tool, and it’s more for novelty (and only novelty), then stick with MBTI or 16P. And don’t even bother looking into socionics. But for those who have stumbled upon MBTI or 16P, and are more curious about the theory, I’m trying to get those people to consider that 1) your type may be completely wrong and 2) there are other systems out there that do a better job at explaining personality. 😊 Thank you guys! 🙏🏼
You're welcome, Aimee ! Love how you explain Socionics in friendly way. I didn't get confused, and letting my knowledge from both sides co-existing in harmony, rather than being like two football/soccer team in a city derby match. I feel thankful to Prof. Kiersey and Dr Linda Berens, for the reason of better understanding and adaptations towards Socionics. Their temperament theory helps me to understand about clubs and quadras in Socionics. In Socionics, my type is EII-Ne subtype that in MBTI may stand in the middle of INFP and ENFP. I may appear like ENFP but still an INFP with Fi-Si/Child function attachment and Se trickster.
I’d add, a good word that sums up Gamma quadra is basically ‘progress’. Not in the social and larger scale, such as for Beta types, who will try to enforce change on a more collectivistic sense due to Se+Fe. Progress for Gammas will be an individual road that their mind is just naturally geared towards to, strive for paths that can give them an advantage and make them a step higher than they are now, whether intellectually or physically or financially. As a LIE (ENTJ) that’s what my mind is positioned towards constantly, even when I’m supposed to relax my mind is constantly working and thinking of what I could do next to improve myself and my position. What makes me uncomfortable, is comfort itself, such as not having anything to do, just relaxing all the time and the idea of ‘fun’. I actually feel drained in social collective situations after a while and need time alone to recharge. Which in comparison, ironically, I don’t feel as drained when I’m working for days/weeks/months towards something (although I’ll burnout as I did in the past). This is what unvalued Si is like, at the expense of ‘movement’ which is Se, and a constant observal of time at the expense of present sensations of comfort (Ni).
I wouldn’t quite word it this way. Only because there are a LOT of delta/alpha quadrant types who focus a lot on progress, but it’s usually because their work IS home for them. Work IS comfort for some people. EDIT: For some, moving forward IS comfort. Staying still is uncomfortable.
I accidentally upset a close INTP friend cause we were working on a holiday themed art project (with a clear deadline) and he half assed it the day before the due date. I apologized, but had no choice but to cut his part out of the project. I’m not mad at him, but I’m also not afraid to be an asshole if you’re not carrying your weight 😆🖤 Se/Fi
1:45 is really a good example. I play basketball, and normally, I get along with everyone and crack my jokes. But when we are in a close game, the "act" drops. I become pissy, bossy, and focused on the goal. Last weekend, we were in a close game, and I got subbed out in the last quarter. I immediately got a little bit mad and questioned the decision because I thought it would compromise our chances of winning if you sub me out. Our team is really nice and supportive to each other, I'm one of the few who will get confrontional for a bit if I feel like we're not accomplishing the goal (winning and specifically moving up a division this season) that is set up. So, in these instances, I break the harmony because the will to accomplish the goal overrides the will to keep some sort of comfortable environment. I try to do that normally because I do think that having a nice and supportive environment helps to achieve better results. But that's the thing. I do it for the results, not because I want to have a comfortable environment.
You're amazing Amy. The best in the typology space on UA-cam. I don't follow typology super closely any more but your channel is one of the only ones I will watch. The best!
OMG this is soo me!! Sometimes I upset people because of my "let's finish this" nature. Like you said I don't care what type of problems you have, you just need to get your sh*t done. I am still not the type to take risks (if there is no reason behind it ofc) but everything you described looks like me.
I'm an ISTJ so I know I'm not in this quadra but I don't get the anti comfort thing. When something needs to be done I just do it. Me or anyone else being uncomfortable about it doesn't change that fact. Work environments also exist to do work not to hangout or something so who cares how comfortable it is as long as you can do your work? So I would really like an explanation.
Camaraderie can help the work environment , because you not valuing Fe as a Delta, and also the Gamma quadra in this case, you neglect this. Camaraderie in effect can create comfort. But Deltas are probably better at providing a physically harmonious and thereby comfortable work space.
I think it’s one of those things where it’s one thing to say we don’t CARE about comfort, but how much we care about comfort will show up inevitably in our actions. So the gamma types not only disregard comfort, their actions SHOW they don’t care. People say they are gamma, yet they will also be the first one to call HR on a real gamma quadra manager/coworker for being “toxic.”
@@toniyami It’s more like the delta quadrants CAN be forceful, but will always try to find an Ne way for 2 people to exist in the same place. For example, “I can and will fight tyrants, even physically. As a principle, nobody should be allowed to take away that which belongs to others. But preferably, why can’t we just find a way to be at peace with one another without force?” More idealistic, “comfortable.” Whereas the gammas are just forceful only BECAUSE they don’t care about or see comfort as a thing to consider. Its not even in their mind. All they literally see is, “object in the way, and no 2 objects can occupy the exact same place, at the same exact time. So I MUST apply some kind of force if I want to move this object at all.” Gammas are very simple.
I think one of the issues with this is knowing what "comfort" means. One of the things I've learned over the years is that something subjective like that means vastly different things to different types. What I'd call comfortable isn't the same as what other types would call comfortable. This is the major problem with self reporting tests like 16P. People see terms like "comfort", "creative", "organized", etc. and can think of instances where they are so they give a positive response even though they're not compared to other types.
You NAILED it!!! I hate the comfort zone and I don't like to rest. Its really like I feel a urgence to do this, to work a little bit more, to finish this, etc.
Thanks for your amazing videos, Aimee! I've recently been looking for an older one you did, where you explain voice tone of Fe vs. Fi - with examples of some celebrities like Michael Jackson, who talks about how he hates to tour. I couldn't find it anymore, was it deleted or am I just not finding it for some strange reason? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
1. Love the attractive background, with the graceful speaker. 💚 2. Every line of this video hits on point. Thank you for the clarification on being oblivious (even intolerant) about the requirement of comfort (of oneself and others), specifically when it's going to cause hindrance to your focus and delays in completing your assignment. (You CAN do it, because you HAVE to! 😅)
Yeah this video confirm that gamma is Forsure my opposite Quadra 😂. I neeed a good deal of comfort in my life. This doesn’t mean I’m a pushover I can be forceful in situations that are disrupting my comfort enough. But then go back to my homeostasis. I’m an ISFJ.
I agree with you 100% Everyone who thinks they are an INTJ and don´t relate to what you said about Gammas are not INTJs, sorry 🤷♀ If Si is important to them, they should consider STJs, but "oh no, Sensors are so boring, and I want to be an evil edgy Mastemind" 🤪🤪🤪
Hey Aimee! I got a little deeper into socionics and I have been face to face with the subtypes of each socionics types. Which are really interesting to do researches on but it's really hard to understand because there are few channels and few websites that talk about it. So I thought maybe you could continue this series by talking about the subtypes and give us some clarity. What do you think?
Hi,a question about your typing service,is it possible to do it in any other form than a video call? I really need help with settling on a type,but video calls with people I don't know well make me anxious,and I worry my english isn't clear enough..
Unfortunately, I don’t have any other way of typing, just because other forms of typing are not effective. To tell your personality type as accurately as possible, video call could be best. 😊
Hi Aimee ! This video really shows Gamma Quadra side of an ISFP Lionel Messi : ua-cam.com/users/shortso8EQZxCDox0?feature=share And another Gamma Quadra person worth mentioning is Josep 'Pep' Guardiola ( xNTJ, I feel so ). He is well known for ditching star players who is not compatible with his tactical gameplay.
Why don’t you use the Socionics names for the types you’re talking about? That might lessen confusion since mbti imo is inherently more shallow…like a person who doesn’t relate to the gamma quadra could totally be an mbti intj bc that barely means anything 😂
So true that these types don't go for comfort or provide a comfortable atmosphere! I at once admire it b/c it makes you better at risk-taking and going after goals, but it would sometimes be better if they understood this better and worked to allow others to have that. (You wouldn't say that isn't true for ISFPs? They do seem to seek comfortable pleasure oftentimes. Work might be different like Michael Jackson. Also, I don't know how you feel about me saying this, but I kind of wish you wouldn't use Michael Jackson, given what has been brought out about his pedophilia with young children. It isn't that you are saying he is the greatest, but using him in any way...just not sure. Is there another hard-working ISFP that could be used?
@@iwrona6258 I am not. I think it would span all types to have moral opinions about such behavior. No? If it's true and maybe you aren't convinced it is. Fi-blind may not care, I'm not sure though what would make someone not care about the evidence of him molesting young boys.
@@tnic3255 of course molesting children isn't moral behavior (in our society at least lel) but why should one not be able to use him as an example of, for example, an amazing singer? I don't understand that point, not that he may or may not be a "bad" person
@@iwrona6258 First, he wasn't being used as an example of an amazing singer. If that were the case, I might even feel differently. I do love his music and not going to say that I change the station when he comes on the radio or refuse to listen to his music. Let's just call it a mom thing. Given your reply, I doubt anything else I would say would be acceptable to you. I wasn't telling Aimee what to do, just saying she might reconsider him as an example of a hard worker (a morally good trait in our society) when there are other ones of his personality type, as the other commenter suggested.
Michael Jackson was ENFP. He was intuitive type and extravert. During his career he brought a lot of new things. For example, his famous walk. You need very strong Ne to bring to the world really something new. If you want ISFP example, Justin Bieber is ISFP.
Aimee, please just start off by being "harsh" with Gamma in the future. This video worked so much better than your previous one due to it. I wasn't big on the previous video. It seemed off due to the "softness". This one brought it home though. Let us have it without sugarcoating. We can take it and prefer it. :)
Bwahahaha!! Noted. 👌🏼
SOOOOOOO TRUE! Dude, I've always loved it when people were more mean to me, it's how I've made some of my greatest friendships to date. It proves they can cut past the bullshit.
''I hate to be so harsh...'' This is the softest that you will get from Gamma, acknowledging to know others dont operate like that. Gamma language is harsh. Thank you for the video Aimee
The reason why I’m not switching the J vs P dichotomy is actually very simple: I want people to switch over to socionics, and ditch MBTI altogether. But before I get to that level, I can’t start off with mentioning the socionics names because, who the hell comes into personality theory from socionics? It’s usually the other way around.
For those freaking out about the transition, don’t worry! Remember, your MBTI test result does not mean anything! And if the results do not mean anything, why even consider the results? For example, what’s the point of me saying I’m an INFJ in MBTI, if that doesn’t mean anything at all? So let’s just disregard it altogether.
If you have no intentions of using MBTI as a self-awareness tool, and it’s more for novelty (and only novelty), then stick with MBTI or 16P. And don’t even bother looking into socionics.
But for those who have stumbled upon MBTI or 16P, and are more curious about the theory, I’m trying to get those people to consider that 1) your type may be completely wrong and 2) there are other systems out there that do a better job at explaining personality. 😊
Thank you guys! 🙏🏼
You're welcome, Aimee !
Love how you explain Socionics in friendly way. I didn't get confused, and letting my knowledge from both sides co-existing in harmony, rather than being like two football/soccer team in a city derby match.
I feel thankful to Prof. Kiersey and Dr Linda Berens, for the reason of better understanding and adaptations towards Socionics. Their temperament theory helps me to understand about clubs and quadras in Socionics.
In Socionics, my type is EII-Ne subtype that in MBTI may stand in the middle of INFP and ENFP. I may appear like ENFP but still an INFP with Fi-Si/Child function attachment and Se trickster.
I wandered in from Objective Personality System with 2,048 types and counting, Socionics isn't going to keep me but I did enjoy the video. TY!
I’d add, a good word that sums up Gamma quadra is basically ‘progress’.
Not in the social and larger scale, such as for Beta types, who will try to enforce change on a more collectivistic sense due to Se+Fe.
Progress for Gammas will be an individual road that their mind is just naturally geared towards to, strive for paths that can give them an advantage and make them a step higher than they are now, whether intellectually or physically or financially.
As a LIE (ENTJ) that’s what my mind is positioned towards constantly, even when I’m supposed to relax my mind is constantly working and thinking of what I could do next to improve myself and my position.
What makes me uncomfortable, is comfort itself, such as not having anything to do, just relaxing all the time and the idea of ‘fun’. I actually feel drained in social collective situations after a while and need time alone to recharge. Which in comparison, ironically, I don’t feel as drained when I’m working for days/weeks/months towards something (although I’ll burnout as I did in the past).
This is what unvalued Si is like, at the expense of ‘movement’ which is Se, and a constant observal of time at the expense of present sensations of comfort (Ni).
I wouldn’t quite word it this way. Only because there are a LOT of delta/alpha quadrant types who focus a lot on progress, but it’s usually because their work IS home for them. Work IS comfort for some people.
EDIT: For some, moving forward IS comfort. Staying still is uncomfortable.
I accidentally upset a close INTP friend cause we were working on a holiday themed art project (with a clear deadline) and he half assed it the day before the due date. I apologized, but had no choice but to cut his part out of the project. I’m not mad at him, but I’m also not afraid to be an asshole if you’re not carrying your weight 😆🖤
Se/Fi
1:45 is really a good example. I play basketball, and normally, I get along with everyone and crack my jokes. But when we are in a close game, the "act" drops. I become pissy, bossy, and focused on the goal. Last weekend, we were in a close game, and I got subbed out in the last quarter. I immediately got a little bit mad and questioned the decision because I thought it would compromise our chances of winning if you sub me out. Our team is really nice and supportive to each other, I'm one of the few who will get confrontional for a bit if I feel like we're not accomplishing the goal (winning and specifically moving up a division this season) that is set up. So, in these instances, I break the harmony because the will to accomplish the goal overrides the will to keep some sort of comfortable environment. I try to do that normally because I do think that having a nice and supportive environment helps to achieve better results. But that's the thing. I do it for the results, not because I want to have a comfortable environment.
You're amazing Amy. The best in the typology space on UA-cam. I don't follow typology super closely any more but your channel is one of the only ones I will watch. The best!
OMG this is soo me!! Sometimes I upset people because of my "let's finish this" nature. Like you said I don't care what type of problems you have, you just need to get your sh*t done. I am still not the type to take risks (if there is no reason behind it ofc) but everything you described looks like me.
Oh..., I understan a lot better now that you mentioned comfort.
I'm an ISTJ so I know I'm not in this quadra but I don't get the anti comfort thing. When something needs to be done I just do it. Me or anyone else being uncomfortable about it doesn't change that fact. Work environments also exist to do work not to hangout or something so who cares how comfortable it is as long as you can do your work? So I would really like an explanation.
Camaraderie can help the work environment , because you not valuing Fe as a Delta, and also the Gamma quadra in this case, you neglect this.
Camaraderie in effect can create comfort.
But Deltas are probably better at providing a physically harmonious and thereby comfortable work space.
I think it’s one of those things where it’s one thing to say we don’t CARE about comfort, but how much we care about comfort will show up inevitably in our actions. So the gamma types not only disregard comfort, their actions SHOW they don’t care.
People say they are gamma, yet they will also be the first one to call HR on a real gamma quadra manager/coworker for being “toxic.”
@@beatofmyown so the NTJs are callous and the STJs are merely uncaring? Am I moving in the right direction?
@@toniyami It’s more like the delta quadrants CAN be forceful, but will always try to find an Ne way for 2 people to exist in the same place. For example, “I can and will fight tyrants, even physically. As a principle, nobody should be allowed to take away that which belongs to others. But preferably, why can’t we just find a way to be at peace with one another without force?” More idealistic, “comfortable.”
Whereas the gammas are just forceful only BECAUSE they don’t care about or see comfort as a thing to consider. Its not even in their mind. All they literally see is, “object in the way, and no 2 objects can occupy the exact same place, at the same exact time. So I MUST apply some kind of force if I want to move this object at all.” Gammas are very simple.
I think one of the issues with this is knowing what "comfort" means. One of the things I've learned over the years is that something subjective like that means vastly different things to different types. What I'd call comfortable isn't the same as what other types would call comfortable. This is the major problem with self reporting tests like 16P. People see terms like "comfort", "creative", "organized", etc. and can think of instances where they are so they give a positive response even though they're not compared to other types.
Glad to see you applying your great insights to socionics which is far better than MBTI. You nailed gamma quadra.
"Anti-Comfort"
How Aimee?? HOW DID YOU READ MY MIND??!
You NAILED it!!! I hate the comfort zone and I don't like to rest. Its really like I feel a urgence to do this, to work a little bit more, to finish this, etc.
Thanks for your amazing videos, Aimee!
I've recently been looking for an older one you did, where you explain voice tone of Fe vs. Fi - with examples of some celebrities like Michael Jackson, who talks about how he hates to tour. I couldn't find it anymore, was it deleted or am I just not finding it for some strange reason? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
1. Love the attractive background, with the graceful speaker. 💚
2. Every line of this video hits on point. Thank you for the clarification on being oblivious (even intolerant) about the requirement of comfort (of oneself and others), specifically when it's going to cause hindrance to your focus and delays in completing your assignment.
(You CAN do it, because you HAVE to! 😅)
Yeah this video confirm that gamma is Forsure my opposite Quadra 😂. I neeed a good deal of comfort in my life. This doesn’t mean I’m a pushover I can be forceful in situations that are disrupting my comfort enough. But then go back to my homeostasis. I’m an ISFJ.
Thank you for sharing! 😊
I agree with you 100%
Everyone who thinks they are an INTJ and don´t relate to what you said about Gammas are not INTJs, sorry 🤷♀
If Si is important to them, they should consider STJs, but "oh no, Sensors are so boring, and I want to be an evil edgy Mastemind" 🤪🤪🤪
Hey Aimee! I got a little deeper into socionics and I have been face to face with the subtypes of each socionics types. Which are really interesting to do researches on but it's really hard to understand because there are few channels and few websites that talk about it. So I thought maybe you could continue this series by talking about the subtypes and give us some clarity. What do you think?
Great description. Sad you had to do a follow up video. The message was conveyed very concretely the first time.
Hello Aimee ; I’m gamma - ESI ISFj ISFP core 4 in MBTI BTW welcome back Aimee miss you so much!!! Love you and your content!
Thank you! 😊
Hi,a question about your typing service,is it possible to do it in any other form than a video call? I really need help with settling on a type,but video calls with people I don't know well make me anxious,and I worry my english isn't clear enough..
Unfortunately, I don’t have any other way of typing, just because other forms of typing are not effective. To tell your personality type as accurately as possible, video call could be best. 😊
I can approve of this. Great job
Thank you! 🙏🏼
Hi Aimee !
This video really shows Gamma Quadra side of an ISFP Lionel Messi :
ua-cam.com/users/shortso8EQZxCDox0?feature=share
And another Gamma Quadra person worth mentioning is Josep 'Pep' Guardiola ( xNTJ, I feel so ). He is well known for ditching star players who is not compatible with his tactical gameplay.
Why don’t you use the Socionics names for the types you’re talking about? That might lessen confusion since mbti imo is inherently more shallow…like a person who doesn’t relate to the gamma quadra could totally be an mbti intj bc that barely means anything 😂
Maybe whit unhealthy stereotypes, well meaby healthy types are just good at working around it or something. 🙄
Sure, anybody can be anything.
So true that these types don't go for comfort or provide a comfortable atmosphere! I at once admire it b/c it makes you better at risk-taking and going after goals, but it would sometimes be better if they understood this better and worked to allow others to have that. (You wouldn't say that isn't true for ISFPs? They do seem to seek comfortable pleasure oftentimes. Work might be different like Michael Jackson. Also, I don't know how you feel about me saying this, but I kind of wish you wouldn't use Michael Jackson, given what has been brought out about his pedophilia with young children. It isn't that you are saying he is the greatest, but using him in any way...just not sure. Is there another hard-working ISFP that could be used?
If you want another example of a hard working ISFP it is definitely Rihanna or Nicki Minaj (even though she is an ESFP).
are you Fe-Dom? Cause I don't care about Michael's reputation lel
@@iwrona6258 I am not. I think it would span all types to have moral opinions about such behavior. No? If it's true and maybe you aren't convinced it is. Fi-blind may not care, I'm not sure though what would make someone not care about the evidence of him molesting young boys.
@@tnic3255 of course molesting children isn't moral behavior (in our society at least lel) but why should one not be able to use him as an example of, for example, an amazing singer? I don't understand that point, not that he may or may not be a "bad" person
@@iwrona6258 First, he wasn't being used as an example of an amazing singer. If that were the case, I might even feel differently. I do love his music and not going to say that I change the station when he comes on the radio or refuse to listen to his music. Let's just call it a mom thing. Given your reply, I doubt anything else I would say would be acceptable to you. I wasn't telling Aimee what to do, just saying she might reconsider him as an example of a hard worker (a morally good trait in our society) when there are other ones of his personality type, as the other commenter suggested.
Damn, i feel like our quadra is so selfish
Honestly if you feel sad about it, you´re probably not a Gamma.
Michael Jackson was ENFP. He was intuitive type and extravert. During his career he brought a lot of new things. For example, his famous walk. You need very strong Ne to bring to the world really something new.
If you want ISFP example, Justin Bieber is ISFP.
He could be any type BUT the ENFP. Just no.
@@DinsdalepiranHa3 MJ is an ISFP
@@DinsdalepiranHa3 I didn't mean to reply to your comment
@@faytwind3913that's in mbti ,in socionics he is isfj
Yas