Haven’t really looked at Empire at all yet. Compared to Dwarfs, they’re really going to need something to be competitive. A general points adjustment down would help, but doing something to improve shooting and artillery would be a little better. That said, it’s pretty clear that there was an effort to downplay infantry in general and gun lines in particular, in this edition. Haven’t played enough to make specific suggestions though.
well. i haven't had a chance to use the empire. But i sure used the wood elves. they're easily one of the few races who can win battles with shooting. they put down so many more ranged attacks then other factions if you take the multishot arrows. i was even pinging off hp on a steam tank. The other faction i've played with a strong ranged game was, oddly enough, the Daemons of chaos. All of the horror daemons have multishot and the flamers have multishot as well. combined with their ridiculous number of wizards and magic missiles.... whooo boy.
Part of the problem with the Empire is you need tactics, so some sort of skill.. Not all other factions do that and as we all know.. gamers aren´t the sharpest horses that bark in the canoe.. So actually using combined arms is something they are clueless about, GW-gamers.. They are more into min-maxing, getting the "best", some OP bullshit and charge straight in.. You can´t do that with the Empire and if you play that way, they suffer.
I think there is still a lot of "40k thinking" going on. It certainly is within the club I go to and that will take some time to get out of the habit of.
Isn’t it true that wounds caused by “stand and shoot” count towards combat resolution now? Detachments of hand gunners will give your parent unit of halberdiers a higher combat resolution in the first round. 👍
Really enjoying your chill and thoughtful empire vids
Haven’t really looked at Empire at all yet. Compared to Dwarfs, they’re really going to need something to be competitive. A general points adjustment down would help, but doing something to improve shooting and artillery would be a little better. That said, it’s pretty clear that there was an effort to downplay infantry in general and gun lines in particular, in this edition. Haven’t played enough to make specific suggestions though.
Prior to the latest FAQ the meta stats floating about show Empire as being the weakest faction. They definitely need some help from GW at the moment.
Rememebr that alot of cavalry went from 2+ to 3+ save too
well. i haven't had a chance to use the empire. But i sure used the wood elves. they're easily one of the few races who can win battles with shooting. they put down so many more ranged attacks then other factions if you take the multishot arrows.
i was even pinging off hp on a steam tank.
The other faction i've played with a strong ranged game was, oddly enough, the Daemons of chaos.
All of the horror daemons have multishot and the flamers have multishot as well. combined with their ridiculous number of wizards and magic missiles.... whooo boy.
Part of the problem with the Empire is you need tactics, so some sort of skill.. Not all other factions do that and as we all know.. gamers aren´t the sharpest horses that bark in the canoe.. So actually using combined arms is something they are clueless about, GW-gamers..
They are more into min-maxing, getting the "best", some OP bullshit and charge straight in.. You can´t do that with the Empire and if you play that way, they suffer.
I think there is still a lot of "40k thinking" going on. It certainly is within the club I go to and that will take some time to get out of the habit of.
Isn’t it true that wounds caused by “stand and shoot” count towards combat resolution now? Detachments of hand gunners will give your parent unit of halberdiers a higher combat resolution in the first round. 👍