Hi guys and girls. Just want to point out. The suspension pats of a motorcycle like this dog bones should never be made out of mild steel as in this video! High tensile hardened steel. 6mm think is used from factory for a reason.
Sorry to tell you the originals are mild steel. And these items experience very little stress. Mine are still going strong. BUT I would never recommend you do what I do. After all UA-cam an entertainment medium not a source of technical reference.
Appreciate very much your videos. Moved from Canada to Spain with my NC750X (2017) and finding a good mechanic to be a challenge. Started doing the work myself based on your videos and my increased confidence that I can do the job.
Very simple solutions that work well. Nice vid.👍 I have same centre stand issue with my Honda Crosstourer, my solution was to put a 15mm thick bit of wood under the back wheel and this now makes it very easy get up on the stand.
I changed mye links 2 years ago to raise the back 4-5 cms. Best mod I've done. Now contemplating new set of Kineo wheels. 19 front 17 rear. That should level out what I've done to the rear. Expensive though...
Great job! I am planning to change my dog bones as well, since when I ride passenger, i scratch exhaust ( fzs1000) on road bumps, sharp hill corners etc.
If we’re going to get any negative effects from the shorter trail you have created it would likely be a front end wobble at speed, no more mad 80mph wheelies for you young man!
Great Video, You made it look Simple. My NC's rear wheel is also a long way off the ground but I need the Seat Height as I am rather too long in the legs, But I do manage to get it up on the stand Okay even with full Panniers and Top Box, It maybe due to my Height advantage.
Hi bob doing the same mod on your bike will give you more comfort on the bike, to suit your long legs, ie this mod raises the seat height not lowers it. Thks
Please correct if I’m wrong, but what you have done by shortening the links has resulted in lifting the bike frame upwards relative to the rear wheel on the road effectively increasing foot peg ground clearance. How much has it lifted the bike please. Thks
Hi ...is there any negative effect with driving with this new bones...? Did bike behave like before in stability,speed etc.? Thank you in advance and love your videos...i am 194 cm and that is why i am espec. interested in this....
How much ground clearance did you gain? That seems to be a weak area of this ADV. If you're starting off with only 5 inches, when you are carrying two riders and bags full you will be practically dragging the ground.
@@AfricaTwin-StuffI am presently living in Colombia in the Andes and riding a Himalayan. The bike has some wonderful qualities and it is an enjoyable ride, but I miss the durability and quality of the Jap bikes. The oil in my Himmy goes black after a few weeks of riding around town, where the Honda and my Ninja typically took months of daily riding to turn black. Everything is done to tighter tolerances on the jap bikes. The NC750x seems like a smaller and more efficient version of my old GL1000 Goldwing which I loved with the exception of the 36mpg. The ground clearance on the GL1000 was almost identical to the NC750x, with the GL coming in at 5.9in and the NC with 5.7in on the 2023 model. The change you made would make both bikes even. I took the Gl1000 on dirt roads with no problems with a heavy full fairing, radio system and trunk and bags. It was heavy considering base weight was 600lbs and then add another 100lbs for the Vetter fairing and touring accessories and the 80hp gets eaten up fast. But like the NC you had a low center of gravity with the boxer engine, and the fuel tank situated under the rider's seat with the fuel cap inside the frunk which is much larger in the New and improved NC design. The NC beats the old GL1000 in not only fuel economy but also top speed. On the NC - 125mph, GL - 122mph. From an engineering perspective, I think Honda resurrected the GL1000 concept and simply made it better, and made it for worldwide circulation. As far as ADV goes, Mike Freerider Gagne has put over 250kM on his NC traveling all over the far east and much of it was off road. I think the NC is an Adventure motorcycle with it's impressive fuel efficiency, you just need to ride within its limits.
When I lowered my NC they also had to do an adjustment to the front forks of course. You’ve just made quite a significant change. I know you know what you’re doing….
Hi Adrian, I may have missed it during the video but don't think so, what size holes or drill bit did you drill at each end (I don't have a bike to measure from at hand) as I wish to gain some ride height for a NC750X
Sorry. Don’t know. I just tried a couple of drills in the original holes till I found one that fitted. I didn’t take note of the size. Anyway this is always a good practice as there is no guarantee your model is the same as mine and those holes must be correct for the bolts used on your bike.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff thanks for the reply I did Google and found I can get a fork tube of the same dimensions just a few centimetres longer. Potentially could that work or is it more complex than that ? One last question... Am I right in thinking that reducing the sag of the front fork will actually make it that tiny bit higher for me seen as it won't dip as much when I get on it?
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff thanks for the reply, have you got any chart worked out how much the dog bone size actually lowers the height down on the bike, or is it up 20mm on the bone, then down 20mm in seat height. basically like for like, thank you.
Love your channel :-) .... How thick is the steel that you have used for the dog bones. I am looking to do something similar, and want to be sure that the dog bones are strong enough.
Yes I guess that would be possible by adding longer dog bones and sliding the forks up the triple clamps. But 60mm is a lot to lower the bike which would compromise your suspension and corning ground clearance.
Honda spends millions on R&D designing motorcycles and I would never pretend I knew better than them. However it never ceases to amaze me how many morons in their sheds with an angle grinder who think they know better.
Hi guys and girls. Just want to point out. The suspension pats of a motorcycle like this dog bones should never be made out of mild steel as in this video! High tensile hardened steel. 6mm think is used from factory for a reason.
Sorry to tell you the originals are mild steel.
And these items experience very little stress.
Mine are still going strong.
BUT I would never recommend you do what I do. After all UA-cam an entertainment medium not a source of technical reference.
Appreciate very much your videos. Moved from Canada to Spain with my NC750X (2017) and finding a good mechanic to be a challenge. Started doing the work myself based on your videos and my increased confidence that I can do the job.
Good on you for giving it a try.
Made a big difference to my NC , 1 of the best addons i did.
Very simple solutions that work well. Nice vid.👍 I have same centre stand issue with my Honda Crosstourer, my solution was to put a 15mm thick bit of wood under the back wheel and this now makes it very easy get up on the stand.
Sir, you are amazing
I hope it is still safe to drive
I like your workshop videos, they are interesting to watch!
I changed mye links 2 years ago to raise the back 4-5 cms. Best mod I've done. Now contemplating new set of Kineo wheels. 19 front 17 rear. That should level out what I've done to the rear. Expensive though...
did you actually changed the front wheel?
@@marcoaurelio6941 no Sir. Traded the bike for a CRF1100 Adv.sport...
Great job! I am planning to change my dog bones as well, since when I ride passenger, i scratch exhaust ( fzs1000) on road bumps, sharp hill corners etc.
If we’re going to get any negative effects from the shorter trail you have created it would likely be a front end wobble at speed, no more mad 80mph wheelies for you young man!
Brilliant job as always, well presented.
great job mate, relatively straight forward. Thanks again for what you share
I was looking forward to seeing you shape the dogbone.
Nice video 😊
Ha! Yes. That’s doable with the angle grinder but I didn’t think necessary.
Very useful step by step video... Lovely well equipped garage (shed as you call it). 👍
Great Video, You made it look Simple. My NC's rear wheel is also a long way off the ground but I need the Seat Height as I am rather too long in the legs, But I do manage to get it up on the stand Okay even with full Panniers and Top Box, It maybe due to my Height advantage.
Hi bob doing the same mod on your bike will give you more comfort on the bike, to suit your long legs, ie this mod raises the seat height not lowers it. Thks
@@MrBeracah Many Thanks for the Information.
I just learned about center stands for the NC750X. My X has none..
Clever mods make the bike your own 😁☘️😃☘️ from northern Ireland great video ☘️
When I did mine (to lift the seat hight) I just cut out a bit and welded them back together, but of course, you then don`t have the original.
Yep. I wasn’t sure I would like the change so went with the “new” option.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Also make for a better video.
Thank you.
Interesting. . . I have to struggle to get the bike up on the Honda centre stand. This may fix it.
I was looking forward to this. It was very satisfying.
Yes. I also like watching other people work while I sit back and relax 😁
oh my, good idea man...
As always nice 👌 great 👌 job 👏
Hi !
I just wonder
After this lowering
Should bike be lowered by front forks for better stabilisation ?
Thanks !
The bike isn’t lowered. It’s now higher in the back end.
If you were in fact lowering the bike then yes you would also lower the forks.
Please correct if I’m wrong, but what you have done by shortening the links has resulted in lifting the bike frame upwards relative to the rear wheel on the road effectively increasing foot peg ground clearance. How much has it lifted the bike please. Thks
Lifted about 25mm
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i done mine still not perfect for me i must sat on 100 bikes in show room not one was perfect its bloody stressing i stand 5.5
In another life time, I had access to ALL OF THOSE NICE SHOP TOOLS! Now days, not so much. Are dog bones available to buy?
Yes. You can buy longer ones to lower the bike or shorter ones to raise the rear height.
Hi ...is there any negative effect with driving with this new bones...? Did bike behave like before in stability,speed etc.? Thank you in advance and love your videos...i am 194 cm and that is why i am espec. interested in this....
No negative effect. It should in theory make the steering “quicker” but I cannot tell the difference.
Just as stable as before.
How much ground clearance did you gain? That seems to be a weak area of this ADV. If you're starting off with only 5 inches, when you are carrying two riders and bags full you will be practically dragging the ground.
I gained about 15-20mm. But to be fair, the NC isn’t an “adv”. And the later models had their ground clearance reduced even more than my 2016 model.
@@AfricaTwin-StuffI am presently living in Colombia in the Andes and riding a Himalayan. The bike has some wonderful qualities and it is an enjoyable ride, but I miss the durability and quality of the Jap bikes. The oil in my Himmy goes black after a few weeks of riding around town, where the Honda and my Ninja typically took months of daily riding to turn black. Everything is done to tighter tolerances on the jap bikes. The NC750x seems like a smaller and more efficient version of my old GL1000 Goldwing which I loved with the exception of the 36mpg. The ground clearance on the GL1000 was almost identical to the NC750x, with the GL coming in at 5.9in and the NC with 5.7in on the 2023 model. The change you made would make both bikes even. I took the Gl1000 on dirt roads with no problems with a heavy full fairing, radio system and trunk and bags. It was heavy considering base weight was 600lbs and then add another 100lbs for the Vetter fairing and touring accessories and the 80hp gets eaten up fast. But like the NC you had a low center of gravity with the boxer engine, and the fuel tank situated under the rider's seat with the fuel cap inside the frunk which is much larger in the New and improved NC design. The NC beats the old GL1000 in not only fuel economy but also top speed. On the NC - 125mph, GL - 122mph. From an engineering perspective, I think Honda resurrected the GL1000 concept and simply made it better, and made it for worldwide circulation. As far as ADV goes, Mike Freerider Gagne has put over 250kM on his NC traveling all over the far east and much of it was off road. I think the NC is an Adventure motorcycle with it's impressive fuel efficiency, you just need to ride within its limits.
Good day. Please can you tell me where I can get the same lowered foot pegs as you’ve got. I’m in London uk.
They were purchased on eBay. Listings come and go, and I’m in Oz, so can’t point to a current listing. Sorry.
When I lowered my NC they also had to do an adjustment to the front forks of course. You’ve just made quite a significant change.
I know you know what you’re doing….
It’s not a very big change geometry-wise.
Not as much as the standard lowering links go in the other direction.
Mike this raises the seat height not lowers it. Thks
@@MrBeracah This will raise the seat height.
Hi Adrian, I may have missed it during the video but don't think so, what size holes or drill bit did you drill at each end (I don't have a bike to measure from at hand) as I wish to gain some ride height for a NC750X
Sorry. Don’t know. I just tried a couple of drills in the original holes till I found one that fitted. I didn’t take note of the size.
Anyway this is always a good practice as there is no guarantee your model is the same as mine and those holes must be correct for the bolts used on your bike.
Ok. I just measured my old ones and the holes on mine are 10mm.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Brilliant, thanks for checking that out for me
Please tell me what length you made the new bones?
Sorry. Don’t have the bike anymore. If I didn’t mention it on the video then the info is lost to history.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Is it a lot of work to raise the front by 2cm
Not possible to raise the front as the forks are already on the fully extended position.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff thanks for the reply I did Google and found I can get a fork tube of the same dimensions just a few centimetres longer. Potentially could that work or is it more complex than that ? One last question... Am I right in thinking that reducing the sag of the front fork will actually make it that tiny bit higher for me seen as it won't dip as much when I get on it?
@@billjohnson3284 I don’t know. I suspect it’s a bit more complicated to do than I’d be capable of understanding.
Можно выточить пробки выше стандартных,диаметром 41мм и получится опустить перья ниже на высоту выточеной пробки.
i always thought shorter dog bones lowered the bike, mmmmmmm
Not on the NC. Shorter ones push the swing arm down.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff thanks for the reply, have you got any chart worked out how much the dog bone size actually lowers the height down on the bike, or is it up 20mm on the bone, then down 20mm in seat height. basically like for like, thank you.
@@MrWhothefoxthat no I don’t. In my video you see how unscientific I was when I made and fitted shorter dog bones.
What about torque settings?
All done with the elbow torque setter.
But I have no problem with others using a torque wrench.
What kind of steel did you use, and no hardening required?
Mild steel. The originals are mild steel too.
There isn’t much load on the dog bones.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff excellent. Thank you. Really enjoy your work. Wish my shop was as well equipped.
@@brendanslater4392 thanks. I love my shed.
The latest addition is a milling attachment to the lathe that I’m having fun with.
do you find the riding worse? i did this myself and i might be wrong but lower speed turning got more aggressive and insecure
I couldn’t notice a difference. The effect on the rake would be minimal for the amount I adjusted the rear.
Love your channel :-) .... How thick is the steel that you have used for the dog bones. I am looking to do something similar, and want to be sure that the dog bones are strong enough.
5mm thick. The dog bones are way stronger than they need to be as they are under very little stress.
Why?
If you watch the video, it’s explained 🤔
Why to do this ?
Increase rear ride height / ground clearance and makes it easier to put on the centre stand
I hate this bikes side stand with a passion, the angle is just bad :)
and Im on my 2nd nc750x!
Is it possible to lower the seat height by 6 cm?
Yes I guess that would be possible by adding longer dog bones and sliding the forks up the triple clamps.
But 60mm is a lot to lower the bike which would compromise your suspension and corning ground clearance.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff thanks for reply
What is this part actually called?
It’s actually called a “dog bone”
Honda spends millions on R&D designing motorcycles and I would never pretend I knew better than them. However it never ceases to amaze me how many morons in their sheds with an angle grinder who think they know better.
Yep. I definitely DO know better.
Thanks.
хонда сама продаёт такие линки,для поднятия на 30мм,значит всё расчитано на +-30мм.Извиняюсь,что не на английском языке.
Thank you.