Vivek was a co driver for Malaysia's flying Sikh, Karamjit Singh, who is a rally driving ace. To say he is a legend is an understatement knowing a great length of challenges he faced throughout his rallying career. Consider running a video about his story, and believe me it's worthwhile.
well, that co driver, is extremely insufferable, rude and a real dick. Let the man drive and do your job, call out the notes. instead of telling him how to drive. Unless Samir is somehow motivated from that 😂
@@savetheevo tuh Retro Havoc. Monkey enclosure hahahah. Assuming from your name, you have an interest in 190E’s? I recently got one and it’s currently in the early stages of simple refurbishment. Maybe we can hangout sometime :))
India has a pretty large motorpsorts scene in general. It has produced two notable F1 driver in K. Chandhok and N.Karthekeiyan, who managed a 4th place finish at the 2005 US GP (albeit with only 6 finishers), and later went on to win a DTM race at Fuji, it has two major tracks, Madras and the F1 venue Buddh. As with most countries, they are more than happy to allow car racing as long as it's on a closed course. In F1 especially, it gave the country and various sponsors lot's of exposure.
@@potatogirlcultist19 Racing on a professional setting is one thing . But what do the people without these sponsorships do?. Banning any and all mods is a very stupid move my india knowing how the company TASMAC destroyed entire state with it but is still not banned.
@@onepunchman6165 I can't really speak for India, since, well, I'm not Indian, so I'm not sure how good their infastructure is, but in places where racing is popular, they set up clubs to organise and host legal events in places like car parks or disused airfields where they're aren't restrictions on what car can enter, thus meaning anyone with a license and a car can enter. However, I'm not sure how the government would deal with this, since I heard that they refused to class F1 as a sport and put it as entertainment instead which meant the track owners could no longer pay F1 up, meaning the track was forced to leave (correct me if I'm wrong here). India seems to have a lot of passion for motorsport, and with exposure and a massive potential audience of over 1 billion, it seems odd that governments don't really want to get behind it. But then again, I'm not really a politician, so what am I to say?
@@potatogirlcultist19 After some research the government just seems corrupt . Many Indians seem to have a love for racing but the government is run by older guys who look into for profit . But I think it would probably change after 20 to 30 years when india is properly developed. We must remember india is still a third world developing country
7:50 nobody thought the navigator was incompetent. Everyone thought Samir was. When the navigator is having to improv tips like, "don't hit that guy" because Samir drove off the course while he refused to listen to the navigation cues, it's the wealthy businessman who fancies himself a really car driver that's the problem.
You keep saying Thapar had "decades" of experience, but he only raced for 5 years, retired, then returned 16 years later. That's less than a decade of experience.
That's incorrect. An athlete has minutes of olympic experience but he has decades of experience in throwing weights. Rallying is a sports discipline, not a franchise.
To correct you, there are quite a few out there who like the memes of themselves, like moistcr1tikal and Ainsley Harriot. But yeah, the story behind this one is dogshit.
@@rgamer4272 i would say those two are pretty isolated cases. There's a tone of examples of people who's life was ruined because of a meme i.e the angry german gamer kid (who ended up turning out fine) but not quite as many for the opposite outcome. Most of the time these kinds of meme are only good if you're already looking for attention or public succes i.e moistcr1tikal who was already a full time streamer and youtuber and Ainsley Harriot who was already a tv entertainer
I'm really appreciate him to gave this golden yet hillarious moments, such a badass rally driver with carrying his own sponsorship, despite the chaotic results
I was becoming a meme in 2007. But I didn't like it so I deleted every copy of the video in existence. 3,000 views in 3-4 days, exponentially growing, dozens of hateful comments. I wish I would have kept it, it would have been funny.
I'm a Navigator in offroad desert racing. Our stages are into the hundreds of kilometers, if I'm yelling at the driver that much, in such a short stage, there is something dreadfully wrong. Just because a driver has decades of experience, doesnt make them any good. The edit wasn't the problem, the driver was. I guarantee, a powerful man like Samir wasnt happy losing face because of Viveks comments and that, I'm betting, was the cause of Viveks troubles. Might post some in car footage of ours, it can get pretty heated in there!
@@surfside75 I am actually. College might be difficult and stressful, but working on my shitbox to run it on touges here would always make my day. Idk, just my take on living my life.
@Jhonn Albisa listen.. don't be overwhelmed. I quit but I should have just stayed in it!! A passing grade even if it's a C-/D you still passed. I love you, don't ever give in and don't give up!😎
From a step back point of view. It is absolutely ridiculous that we as humanity have reached the point of letting social media have actual effect on real life thoughts, feelings, and subsequently ones actions are driven by it. We all owe eachother a favor, and need to stop treating social media like it is our lifeline. Start living in reality again.
Social media is our communication, merged into one huge stream. It's not some other world separate from our world, or a dream that we can simply wake up from and forget by the time we have our first meal of the day. Yes, we are all responsible with the things that we post, and the actions we take upon whatever we consume from social media. Yes, we shouldn't let the mob mentality carried by social media blindly affect our lives, but don't forget that it can similarly be carried by newspaper, TV, radio, mouth-to-mouth, public addresses, and whatever else humans communicate with one another.
Mr. Vivek Ponussamy is also in charge of Team MRF Tyres in European Rally Championship these days. That's a succesful operation. They won the drivers', co-drivers' and the teams' championships in 2022.
Wait, how was the footage doctored and not real? As far as I understand, it was not doctored and was entirely real, it was just clips cut together. So in reality all of what we see happened and was said, just with less comedic stuff inbetween?
De iure, doctored means maliciously edited, and can indeed be just real clips put together. But this does mean that OP believes Mr. Setna had edited the video with malicious intent.
As a native of Colorado, it is my duty to state that the car driving off a cliff at 5:28 occurred at the 2012 Pike's Peak International Hill Climb. That 125mph left-hand turn is called "The Devil's Playground", and it's nerve-wracking to drive at 30mph. Driver Jeremy Foley survived after his Evo rolled something like 14 times down the side of the mountain. "Jeremy, you're breaking the car!" The Race to the Clouds is just weeks away now, Sunday June 25th 2023.
Watching the rally video first time around and many times later, I never thought Vivek was "incapable" of co-piloting a rally driver like Samir. Infact, Vivek did excellent job and he read the pace notes even before they got to the corner. I always thought none skilled one between the two of them was always Samir and he kinda was that stage. I kinda feel bad for Vivek but im happy he got back on his feet.
Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that Vivek got the heat aswell to me it seems more like he was desperately giving out the calls and Samir wasn't listening. The people who stopped supporting Vivek after watching a meme on the internet are the dumb ones.
@@qaiserkhan4465agreed 150% its ridiculous that Vivek caught the heat for this considering he was doing his job. His hilarious frustration with Samir's sketchy driving discipline during that particular stage was warranted and completely relatable
Someone should make a racing game with all the final bosses being car meme videos. Like Samir and the Mexican guy in the Maxima who gapped the Porsche.
Need for Speed ProStreet: Pepega Edition is a mod that adds a lot of meme content. Samir actually is a character in one of the events that you race against!
wow i never knew the video was edited like that. and it costed them both alot of issues after... I hope this video blows up and gets more views so everyone understands the truth.
It was all real though… implying it’s fake because it’s edited down to just show the highlights (or depending who you ask, the lowlights.) hardly seems accurate and even a bit misleading tbh.
To me this seems weird. Like the ones at wrong here should be the people who took some random edited video on the internet seriously, treating it as if it was evidence of someone's capabilities.. in a sport where everyone makes mistakes, and the co-driver wasn't even one who had a big history of mistakes either. Those people who treated this random meme video as gospel are the ones who did wrong here. In general making decisions based on just some random video on the internet, which isn't even claiming to be educational, is a massive mistake on the viewer's part. Pretty sure this is common sense, or at least it is over here, taught to kids pretty early on too. Is no one else taught to not treat something they seen on tv or the internet as somehow factual and accurate information?
"Pretty sure this is common sense, or at least it is over here, taught to kids pretty early on too. Is no one else taught to not treat something they seen on tv or the internet as somehow factual and accurate information?" No, not at all. People on the internet are dumber than you think.
@@bloodyhell8201 The basics that are important in every day life, like understanding that what sort of language is allowed depends entirely on the social group you're in (can swear with friends and make dumb jokes, but act proper when parents are around or when you're in school or at work). Not taking stuff you read on the internet seriously is pretty much reinforced by everyone constantly, including the internet itself, hence I am baffled that there are adults with jobs who leap into conclusions based on a random post on the internet instead of doing any proper research first. They're adults, and their decisions are made for the sake of a professional job, so this sort of reactions from them makes them look very questionable as people. It's not professionalism at all. Children make such dumb mistakes. Adults who are acting in context of a job have no excuse.
Don't just assume that other people are stupid. Imagine a store owner looking for a cashier. There are 2 person show up for it. Both are moderately okay, but one of them had a candid video where he slept on the job. 9/10 that owner would never picked the one with that video no matter what context that video has. I mean why would he picked him when he clearly had a recorded stain while the other one is (as far as he knew) clean as a whistle?
He didn't though. He raced 5 years over 2 decades, the presenter has repeated the "decades of experience" line a few times but he also said the man stepped away from racing twice for extended periods. I built a patio at my parents house in 1997 and then built one at my house in 2021, apparently I have decades of experience in construction.
There's something about rich people wanting/thinking they are racing gods that removes all sympathy and impressiveness of their driving. Samir will always be the one who broke the car in my eyes. Nothing else.
It's an absolutely bizarre takeaway from the video is that Vivek did anything wrong at all. Then again that country has a really bad reputation for its absolutely toxic power dynamics, where the boss is always right, even when he's literally breaking the car.
I can never find the proper words to describe how much I enjoy video essays (or whatever the term might be), especially those that tell the story behind something I once wondered about a long time ago.
Excellent video and presentation! I will definitely be sharing this for so many reasons to my friends, absolutely superb, please keep up the hard work as I love this content!
My God man, I laughed so hard the first time I saw that video I couldn’t breath! It took me a few more attempts before I could get through it without laughing so hard I missed things. Thanks for adding the rest of the context to this.
I haven't got a clue about the laws in India but in the USA, lawyers usually tell us that a critical component of defamation claims is a false statement. So if you took a raw video and removed everything that wasn't fun to watch, and you're not not splicng phrases/sentences to fundamentally change their meanings... it doesn't seem to me as though any "defamation" happened! Copyright is a whole other thing though; taking the rally video and reposting without the owner's permission might be a copyright violation
Thank you for giving the real story more attention. It's always bothered me that people don't know the full story of how both of these guys really are legends.
@@rocketman3285you apparently cared enough to scroll through the comments and specifically troll reply to this comment. Next time check if your troll reply actually makes sense. You're a disgrace to trollers.
Calling the clips video "doctored" and "not exactly real" I don't think is fair - the audio and the video are seemingly accurate, it's just missing the segments between the funny bits. I thought you were gonna say that maybe it wasn't Samir driving, or that the codriver we hear might have been someone else, those I would agree would make the video "not exactly real" but that wasn't the case.
@@aramisperez9923Are we in a court of law? Yes, the footage was doctored, but it did not unfairly depict any of the events that went on. Those happened.
Now this makes sense. That nevigator was a professional and he's only been doing gigs with a professional rally drivers up until that Samir gig. No wonder he was furious cause that dude definitely didn't know how to drive to even begin with. I've seen the full clip and saying it was rusty is a bit generous of you cause from the start of the race till the end of that clip he seemed like he just got a learner's licence.
Bruh I'm impressed with the pronounciations! My uncle built parts of the team that built the cars raced by Samir. It's a now defunct firm called Red Rooster Racing here in Bangalore. The dude is immensely skilled. I remember the time he had brought out his Novitec Supercharged Ferrari F430. The thing sounded wicked n he had it floored! This was around 2013 or so and a time when supercars were a rarity on Indian roads, let alone being driven hard. We also happen to have a goddamned almost 200% import duty on imported cars. So something like a highly specced SVJ is almost 1.5 million USD here. Samir also has a Superformance GT40 in the Gulf Livery amongst a dozen or so tasteful exotics.
@@Antikyth It was set in the 60s-70s in order to help Indian auto manufacturers to have a better chance at getting a grasp at the market because alot of imported cars were coming into the market n folks naturally prefer to have a car that's built way better than what the local manufacturers were putting out. But what's unfortunate n engaging is that they've now had over half a decade to do exactly that n have gone on to become titans that have acquired foreign automakers such as Jaguar, Land Rover etc yet they still very strongly lobby the Govt to keep the import duties that way n it's highly unlikely to change. In the late 90s they went on to ban the import of cars older than 3 years into the country So if you love vintage or classic cars, you just can't buy one abroad n import it in unless it's to be kept in a museum n can never be registered. If I remember correctly, the Philippines has it even worse with 300% import duty.
You keep saying "edited and doctored". How is the 3 minute video doctored? You know what that word means right. It means faked. I also can't believe how this could ever be considered defamation. If it is faked yes if it is just edited never.
You've got to lean into these things to weather the storm (easy to say when it's never happened to me, of course). If the duo continued racing, were it me I would have updated the livery by putting "Samir, you're breaking the car!" on the passenger side and "Shut up!" on the driver's side.
soooo, he isn't actually a rally driver with 20+ years of experience since he started in 1992, retired in 1997 or whenever - couldn't really understand from the video since you mention he retires in 1997 but then you also say "it wouldnt be until 10 years after that, in 2013, that Samir would finally lace up his racing boots properly" (he returned in the Evo in 2013). If my math checks out - what happened in 2003? Somethings off with the timeline, or there is just missing information in the video about his carreer. Either way he started in 1992, finished in 2016, but if you are retired for half of that time period, it doesn't mean you have 20+ years of rally experience :D Anyway - loved the video, thanks :) !
Yay Satria Neo! Proton, the Malaysian Manufacturer had great success in Rallying in the past. It's an interesting subject to study too, like how they brought EVO IV as a Proton. Built by Mellors Elliot Motorsports in the UK and won their WRC category. Which Mitsubishi was competing in as well! Also that Cusco Satria Neo, an original car made by Proton was bought by a Japanese tuner, to race in Asia Pacific Rally.
The footage wasn't "doctored". Vivek and Samir did indeed do everything that the clip showed. Unless the context includes Vivek saying "Samir,for about 3 minutes I am going to say things that are completely untrue" then I don't know how you could call it defamation.
yeah that is definitely misleading. There's nothing fake about it. And when you watch it - it is clearly an edited compilation vid. I also don't think it's 'devious' to edit a video THAT THE OWNER ALREADY POSTED.
Small game I play had a small video with this. It’s a space sim (and you can play in VR) but the ship they were flying was nicknamed “The Vomit Comet”. One of the fastest moving ships with almost uncontrollable sensitive agility. So they took a video of this ship racing in canyons. Truly a masterpiece.
I'm from Coimbatore, India - the place where some of the rallys featured in this video took place. Worked at a dyno facility located near the airport of that city and got a front row seat to the rally scene in Southern India
Рік тому+7
you cant save samir. the meme video has no manupilation. it cant be a crime.
Anyone else miss the old thumbnails that aren’t AI generated images? It makes the videos look like they are from completely different channel, it took me seeing this video pop up in my recommended 3 times for me to realize it was an even an Albon video
0:27 "The footage was doctored." You mean somebody took all the best parts from the full 80 minutes and put them into a compilation? That's what doctored is to you? God I hate these idiotic channels.
In Motorsports like rally and rally raid arguments and fights between crew and mechanics is common, especially after hours of hardcore racing But honestly everyone’s pretty nice to each other again after a few hours💀
Thank you for setting the record straight. The people involved really deserved this, so thanks again for this... edutainment! (: ... I still like the original meme video, can not deny that. ;)
@JP-xd6fm yes. Thats why he deserves to be made fun of and to lose his mediocre career? It doesnt matter, you dont have to be the best at the sport to participate and not be made fun of. It wasnt as if it was a really high and popular sport either. Not saying the video was fake or doctored, but yes ultimately it did have a damaging effect on the lives of the 2.
1:13 actually, every motorsport, ain't cheap. You have to travel to various tracks and when you crashed, that's when you hear to big vacuum sound in your pocket. Mick Schumacher's crashes in Monaco GP 2022 cost the team more than $1 million to fix his car.
How was it altered (really just confused) he just cut the video and highlighted the funny parts, I didn't get where he altered the images, the things in the video actually happened even if there is more context to it. It's not a fake video.
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This was cool like a Bollywood movie! :D
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Took you forever just to get to the point...
how's it taste though, nobody talks about that.
When half your video is a sponsor spot, particularly a scummy one like suppliments.. Buhbye.
"the car had to be retired"
Sooo... Samir broke the car?
Exactly! he actually was breaking the car!, poor Vivek he was right
shut up! 🤣
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Yep... This vid is defending Samir but obviously not every really car is retired after one race.
Vivek was a co driver for Malaysia's flying Sikh, Karamjit Singh, who is a rally driving ace. To say he is a legend is an understatement knowing a great length of challenges he faced throughout his rallying career. Consider running a video about his story, and believe me it's worthwhile.
well, that co driver, is extremely insufferable, rude and a real dick. Let the man drive and do your job, call out the notes. instead of telling him how to drive. Unless Samir is somehow motivated from that 😂
I met Karamjit two weeks ago at a car show. Awesome guy and Malaysian sensation even today.
Iirc Proton Pert(old Motorsport name before became R3) also have its name written on rally hall of fame because of Karamjit Singh
@@johnmalcolmthorpeflemingch8191 which car show
@@savetheevo tuh Retro Havoc. Monkey enclosure hahahah. Assuming from your name, you have an interest in 190E’s? I recently got one and it’s currently in the early stages of simple refurbishment. Maybe we can hangout sometime :))
It's misleading to say the video was "doctored" or "fake"... It all happened, it's just that the funniest bits are clipped together for convenience.
That's doctoring
@@Mirage5892 It's doctoring if the intent is to deceive, not just to highlight funny moments.
@@Mirage5892 no. Generally when something was doctored, it implies it’s fake. Nothing about the video was fake, it’s all real footage.
Yeah, it's just, his professional career was ruined
Never knew India had a rally culture after knowing their car mod laws.
car modding is illegal for street cars. India had rally culture going way back since british were administering India.
India has a pretty large motorpsorts scene in general. It has produced two notable F1 driver in K. Chandhok and N.Karthekeiyan, who managed a 4th place finish at the 2005 US GP (albeit with only 6 finishers), and later went on to win a DTM race at Fuji, it has two major tracks, Madras and the F1 venue Buddh. As with most countries, they are more than happy to allow car racing as long as it's on a closed course. In F1 especially, it gave the country and various sponsors lot's of exposure.
@@potatogirlcultist19 Racing on a professional setting is one thing . But what do the people without these sponsorships do?. Banning any and all mods is a very stupid move my india knowing how the company TASMAC destroyed entire state with it but is still not banned.
@@onepunchman6165 I can't really speak for India, since, well, I'm not Indian, so I'm not sure how good their infastructure is, but in places where racing is popular, they set up clubs to organise and host legal events in places like car parks or disused airfields where they're aren't restrictions on what car can enter, thus meaning anyone with a license and a car can enter. However, I'm not sure how the government would deal with this, since I heard that they refused to class F1 as a sport and put it as entertainment instead which meant the track owners could no longer pay F1 up, meaning the track was forced to leave (correct me if I'm wrong here).
India seems to have a lot of passion for motorsport, and with exposure and a massive potential audience of over 1 billion, it seems odd that governments don't really want to get behind it. But then again, I'm not really a politician, so what am I to say?
@@potatogirlcultist19 After some research the government just seems corrupt . Many Indians seem to have a love for racing but the government is run by older guys who look into for profit . But I think it would probably change after 20 to 30 years when india is properly developed. We must remember india is still a third world developing country
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they should have used this guy in the rally games as a voice .. hillarious
@@jaxxrrthere are mods available...
Shaddup!
i hope he gets paid for royalty, he's a legend @@jaxxrr
7:50 nobody thought the navigator was incompetent. Everyone thought Samir was. When the navigator is having to improv tips like, "don't hit that guy" because Samir drove off the course while he refused to listen to the navigation cues, it's the wealthy businessman who fancies himself a really car driver that's the problem.
You keep saying Thapar had "decades" of experience, but he only raced for 5 years, retired, then returned 16 years later. That's less than a decade of experience.
u dont understand doing things
@@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.nether do you apparently
Racing for 5 years is like 10 years of driving bro
its like calling a dynasty heir a businessman
That's incorrect. An athlete has minutes of olympic experience but he has decades of experience in throwing weights. Rallying is a sports discipline, not a franchise.
As always, a meme is only funny if you're not in it.
To correct you, there are quite a few out there who like the memes of themselves, like moistcr1tikal and Ainsley Harriot. But yeah, the story behind this one is dogshit.
@@rgamer4272 i would say those two are pretty isolated cases. There's a tone of examples of people who's life was ruined because of a meme i.e the angry german gamer kid (who ended up turning out fine) but not quite as many for the opposite outcome. Most of the time these kinds of meme are only good if you're already looking for attention or public succes i.e moistcr1tikal who was already a full time streamer and youtuber and Ainsley Harriot who was already a tv entertainer
The fact remains that it’s hilarious.
@@mclama1139 There are also tons of examples of people embracing their memes.
@@nathanchildress5596 but also extremely funny all the same.
I'm really appreciate him to gave this golden yet hillarious moments, such a badass rally driver with carrying his own sponsorship, despite the chaotic results
Coco Hayashi (Hayamaru) secretly also love this meme from Samir Thapar.
I'm running out of ways to say I like Albon videos without sounding like a creep
with that one you nailed it sounding like a creep :d
"I rubbed one out to this video Albon"
*The picture of dexter from dexters laboratory holding a picture of albon *
Same
You're sus!
samir's legacy lives on as a racer in nfs: prostreet pepega edition
So true
It's crazy to think becoming a meme is a bless as many people imagine or a curse for some individuals at the same time.
Ey, nice pfp
I was becoming a meme in 2007. But I didn't like it so I deleted every copy of the video in existence. 3,000 views in 3-4 days, exponentially growing, dozens of hateful comments. I wish I would have kept it, it would have been funny.
Just because it was on India if it was another place nothing of this would have happened
@@ryanb9749 yep. Keeping them sometimes may earn you far more profit.
We are blessed and cursed, like it says in the book.
I'm a Navigator in offroad desert racing. Our stages are into the hundreds of kilometers, if I'm yelling at the driver that much, in such a short stage, there is something dreadfully wrong. Just because a driver has decades of experience, doesnt make them any good. The edit wasn't the problem, the driver was. I guarantee, a powerful man like Samir wasnt happy losing face because of Viveks comments and that, I'm betting, was the cause of Viveks troubles. Might post some in car footage of ours, it can get pretty heated in there!
I was looking for this comment. It doesn't matter if the 3 minutes of incompetence are cut out of 40, it's still 3 minutes of incompetence.
Yeah imagine this as a flight instructor.
Yeah I never thought Vivek was the one that looked bad in that video.
Yow I was 10 when this blew up. I'm 20 this year and still a diehard rally fan, now a tuner, and currently studying in college.
You just keep this up and you will enjoy a fulfilled life.. enjoy and be blessed.
-Make us proud sir.😁💙
@@surfside75 I am actually. College might be difficult and stressful, but working on my shitbox to run it on touges here would always make my day. Idk, just my take on living my life.
@@jhonnalbisa8422 literally me
may i ask what shitbox you drive?
@Jhonn Albisa listen.. don't be overwhelmed. I quit but I should have just stayed in it!!
A passing grade even if it's a C-/D you still passed. I love you, don't ever give in and don't give up!😎
How To Be A Tuner?
From a step back point of view. It is absolutely ridiculous that we as humanity have reached the point of letting social media have actual effect on real life thoughts, feelings, and subsequently ones actions are driven by it.
We all owe eachother a favor, and need to stop treating social media like it is our lifeline.
Start living in reality again.
tell that to twitter freaks
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It’s been like this since ancient times with rumors, news papers, gossip, radios, tv.
Social media is our communication, merged into one huge stream. It's not some other world separate from our world, or a dream that we can simply wake up from and forget by the time we have our first meal of the day.
Yes, we are all responsible with the things that we post, and the actions we take upon whatever we consume from social media.
Yes, we shouldn't let the mob mentality carried by social media blindly affect our lives, but don't forget that it can similarly be carried by newspaper, TV, radio, mouth-to-mouth, public addresses, and whatever else humans communicate with one another.
@@jaredmiller8740 yep. This meme since 2013 still very famous.
Mr. Vivek Ponussamy is also in charge of Team MRF Tyres in European Rally Championship these days. That's a succesful operation. They won the drivers', co-drivers' and the teams' championships in 2022.
Wait, how was the footage doctored and not real? As far as I understand, it was not doctored and was entirely real, it was just clips cut together. So in reality all of what we see happened and was said, just with less comedic stuff inbetween?
De iure, doctored means maliciously edited, and can indeed be just real clips put together. But this does mean that OP believes Mr. Setna had edited the video with malicious intent.
As a native of Colorado, it is my duty to state that the car driving off a cliff at 5:28 occurred at the 2012 Pike's Peak International Hill Climb. That 125mph left-hand turn is called "The Devil's Playground", and it's nerve-wracking to drive at 30mph. Driver Jeremy Foley survived after his Evo rolled something like 14 times down the side of the mountain. "Jeremy, you're breaking the car!"
The Race to the Clouds is just weeks away now, Sunday June 25th 2023.
thanks for sharing!
Sometimes I forget other people from Colorado are online. I only meet them like once every two months.
@@swifter46terwell that's bcz Ralph ( and not Samir ) keeps breaking the Colorado's internet 😂
Not native to colorado but grew up there and yeah it doesn’t seem to like cars existing
@@mastercoolguy2809 Honestly, true. Everything in this state wants to make your car miserable. The air, the ground, the terrain, the weather..
"The video was doctored". Actually it was just edited down to the good stuff. Pretty much what everyone today does.
Watching the rally video first time around and many times later, I never thought Vivek was "incapable" of co-piloting a rally driver like Samir. Infact, Vivek did excellent job and he read the pace notes even before they got to the corner. I always thought none skilled one between the two of them was always Samir and he kinda was that stage. I kinda feel bad for Vivek but im happy he got back on his feet.
Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that Vivek got the heat aswell to me it seems more like he was desperately giving out the calls and Samir wasn't listening. The people who stopped supporting Vivek after watching a meme on the internet are the dumb ones.
@@qaiserkhan4465agreed 150% its ridiculous that Vivek caught the heat for this considering he was doing his job. His hilarious frustration with Samir's sketchy driving discipline during that particular stage was warranted and completely relatable
It's insane especially cause you can see Samir drifting all over the place and making bad corrections, etc.
Honestly he sounds so flustered and just giving off "OHHH AHHHH FUUUUUUU" vibes the whole time. It would stress me out badly if he were my co driver.
totally - i never thought it made the codriver look bad
Someone should make a racing game with all the final bosses being car meme videos. Like Samir and the Mexican guy in the Maxima who gapped the Porsche.
Need for Speed ProStreet: Pepega Edition is a mod that adds a lot of meme content. Samir actually is a character in one of the events that you race against!
@@TorchicNidoran1994 No way that’s insane I gotta try that
Manuel Transmission
And the truck filled with violent gopniks in _SpongeBob_ fursuits.
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that video is absolutely not doctored
wow i never knew the video was edited like that. and it costed them both alot of issues after... I hope this video blows up and gets more views so everyone understands the truth.
Them both? Samir was a rich fat cat, this shit barely phased him.
It was all real though… implying it’s fake because it’s edited down to just show the highlights (or depending who you ask, the lowlights.) hardly seems accurate and even a bit misleading tbh.
To me this seems weird. Like the ones at wrong here should be the people who took some random edited video on the internet seriously, treating it as if it was evidence of someone's capabilities.. in a sport where everyone makes mistakes, and the co-driver wasn't even one who had a big history of mistakes either. Those people who treated this random meme video as gospel are the ones who did wrong here. In general making decisions based on just some random video on the internet, which isn't even claiming to be educational, is a massive mistake on the viewer's part. Pretty sure this is common sense, or at least it is over here, taught to kids pretty early on too. Is no one else taught to not treat something they seen on tv or the internet as somehow factual and accurate information?
"Pretty sure this is common sense, or at least it is over here, taught to kids pretty early on too. Is no one else taught to not treat something they seen on tv or the internet as somehow factual and accurate information?"
No, not at all. People on the internet are dumber than you think.
@@archwaldo To be fair, I do avoid Twitter, Tumblr and Reddit like the plague.
Take a step back and think..how many things that you got taught do you actually remember?
@@bloodyhell8201 The basics that are important in every day life, like understanding that what sort of language is allowed depends entirely on the social group you're in (can swear with friends and make dumb jokes, but act proper when parents are around or when you're in school or at work). Not taking stuff you read on the internet seriously is pretty much reinforced by everyone constantly, including the internet itself, hence I am baffled that there are adults with jobs who leap into conclusions based on a random post on the internet instead of doing any proper research first. They're adults, and their decisions are made for the sake of a professional job, so this sort of reactions from them makes them look very questionable as people. It's not professionalism at all.
Children make such dumb mistakes. Adults who are acting in context of a job have no excuse.
Don't just assume that other people are stupid. Imagine a store owner looking for a cashier. There are 2 person show up for it. Both are moderately okay, but one of them had a candid video where he slept on the job. 9/10 that owner would never picked the one with that video no matter what context that video has. I mean why would he picked him when he clearly had a recorded stain while the other one is (as far as he knew) clean as a whistle?
Theres no way he had 20 years experience before that video, thats amazing 😂😂
He didn't though. He raced 5 years over 2 decades, the presenter has repeated the "decades of experience" line a few times but he also said the man stepped away from racing twice for extended periods. I built a patio at my parents house in 1997 and then built one at my house in 2021, apparently I have decades of experience in construction.
There's something about rich people wanting/thinking they are racing gods that removes all sympathy and impressiveness of their driving. Samir will always be the one who broke the car in my eyes. Nothing else.
"Samir youre entering burning building"
Samir: shatap, dont tell me how to drive
"Nerevarine, you will destroy the automobile." - Vivek
Why did I have to scroll down this far to find this? 😂
what does the rally have to do with morrorwind? can you explain
@@Erksah02 oh there are some parallels. think about it.
Nerevar you clearly reincarnated with the brain of an argonian
It's an absolutely bizarre takeaway from the video is that Vivek did anything wrong at all. Then again that country has a really bad reputation for its absolutely toxic power dynamics, where the boss is always right, even when he's literally breaking the car.
I just imagine Binotto watching this video and checking the Italian laws on the subject...
How do you afford tuning while being in college? I finished college and barely afford new tires
😂😂😂😂
The deep dive I didnt know we needed! ❤
I can never find the proper words to describe how much I enjoy video essays (or whatever the term might be), especially those that tell the story behind something I once wondered about a long time ago.
Excellent video and presentation! I will definitely be sharing this for so many reasons to my friends, absolutely superb, please keep up the hard work as I love this content!
My God man, I laughed so hard the first time I saw that video I couldn’t breath! It took me a few more attempts before I could get through it without laughing so hard I missed things. Thanks for adding the rest of the context to this.
awesome that you shed some light on this, I never knew
I haven't got a clue about the laws in India but in the USA, lawyers usually tell us that a critical component of defamation claims is a false statement. So if you took a raw video and removed everything that wasn't fun to watch, and you're not not splicng phrases/sentences to fundamentally change their meanings...
it doesn't seem to me as though any "defamation" happened!
Copyright is a whole other thing though; taking the rally video and reposting without the owner's permission might be a copyright violation
Thank you for giving the real story more attention. It's always bothered me that people don't know the full story of how both of these guys really are legends.
Noone cares! funny video funny. Doesn't effect any of us here!
@@rocketman3285you apparently cared enough to scroll through the comments and specifically troll reply to this comment. Next time check if your troll reply actually makes sense. You're a disgrace to trollers.
Except he broke the damn car like a boyracing fool
It's so satisfying to hear you pronounce the Indian town names correctly 😌
Makes me doubt if he's using his real accent
@@DhruvAnand93what does it matter?
That's because he is Indian.
Calling the clips video "doctored" and "not exactly real" I don't think is fair - the audio and the video are seemingly accurate, it's just missing the segments between the funny bits. I thought you were gonna say that maybe it wasn't Samir driving, or that the codriver we hear might have been someone else, those I would agree would make the video "not exactly real" but that wasn't the case.
In the court of law any edit or manipulation of the clip in any way is what counts the meme as doctored and not real.
@@aramisperez9923Are we in a court of law? Yes, the footage was doctored, but it did not unfairly depict any of the events that went on. Those happened.
4:25 this duo made me obsessed with Satria Neo. am still looking to buy a 2ndhand tbh
one time it was SWRC car, 2nd category in WRC, Per Gunnar Andersson was driving this car to the max
"nothing terrible happened"
Pretty sure he almost killed someone at one point lmao
I feel bad for Vivek after watching the vid.
I felt bad for vivek, without knowing his name, after watching the short meme version.
Man, this is probably one of the most interesting videos on a 'meme' that I've ever seen. Great stuff, subbed!
Rest In Pieces
Samir "You're breaking the car" Thapar
😔😔😔
*pieces*
Bro?☠️
My brother in genetics, it's rest in peace 😭
@@vreikezen8268 mutual
@@vreikezen8268 Reading comprehension my man.
He wrote "rest in pieces". Rest in pieces bro.
Now this makes sense. That nevigator was a professional and he's only been doing gigs with a professional rally drivers up until that Samir gig. No wonder he was furious cause that dude definitely didn't know how to drive to even begin with. I've seen the full clip and saying it was rusty is a bit generous of you cause from the start of the race till the end of that clip he seemed like he just got a learner's licence.
Him: "You know what's worse than a viral video though?" Me: Your sponsor?! Him: "Yup"
Happy to know the co-driver could go back to his rally carreer in the end. So we ones more learn the dangers on the internet
Samir wrecking the car is kinda urban legend. Thank you for your explanation. I didn't know that the video has been an archaic archive.
Bruh I'm impressed with the pronounciations! My uncle built parts of the team that built the cars raced by Samir. It's a now defunct firm called Red Rooster Racing here in Bangalore. The dude is immensely skilled. I remember the time he had brought out his Novitec Supercharged Ferrari F430. The thing sounded wicked n he had it floored! This was around 2013 or so and a time when supercars were a rarity on Indian roads, let alone being driven hard. We also happen to have a goddamned almost 200% import duty on imported cars. So something like a highly specced SVJ is almost 1.5 million USD here. Samir also has a Superformance GT40 in the Gulf Livery amongst a dozen or so tasteful exotics.
200%?! Wow! I wonder what the reason is. That is very very high.
@@Antikyth It was set in the 60s-70s in order to help Indian auto manufacturers to have a better chance at getting a grasp at the market because alot of imported cars were coming into the market n folks naturally prefer to have a car that's built way better than what the local manufacturers were putting out. But what's unfortunate n engaging is that they've now had over half a decade to do exactly that n have gone on to become titans that have acquired foreign automakers such as Jaguar, Land Rover etc yet they still very strongly lobby the Govt to keep the import duties that way n it's highly unlikely to change. In the late 90s they went on to ban the import of cars older than 3 years into the country So if you love vintage or classic cars, you just can't buy one abroad n import it in unless it's to be kept in a museum n can never be registered. If I remember correctly, the Philippines has it even worse with 300% import duty.
You keep saying "edited and doctored". How is the 3 minute video doctored? You know what that word means right. It means faked. I also can't believe how this could ever be considered defamation. If it is faked yes if it is just edited never.
I discovered rallying 2 years ago only thanks to the video. Today it's my main hobby, can't be more thankful for it :D
You've got to lean into these things to weather the storm (easy to say when it's never happened to me, of course). If the duo continued racing, were it me I would have updated the livery by putting "Samir, you're breaking the car!" on the passenger side and "Shut up!" on the driver's side.
That’s so crazy I just found that rally video for the first time yesterday.. 😮 you’re the man
Kinda feel bad for Samir, but i hope he embraces the meme someday
soooo, he isn't actually a rally driver with 20+ years of experience since he started in 1992, retired in 1997 or whenever - couldn't really understand from the video since you mention he retires in 1997 but then you also say "it wouldnt be until 10 years after that, in 2013, that Samir would finally lace up his racing boots properly" (he returned in the Evo in 2013). If my math checks out - what happened in 2003? Somethings off with the timeline, or there is just missing information in the video about his carreer. Either way he started in 1992, finished in 2016, but if you are retired for half of that time period, it doesn't mean you have 20+ years of rally experience :D
Anyway - loved the video, thanks :) !
Yay Satria Neo!
Proton, the Malaysian Manufacturer had great success in Rallying in the past. It's an interesting subject to study too, like how they brought EVO IV as a Proton. Built by Mellors Elliot Motorsports in the UK and won their WRC category. Which Mitsubishi was competing in as well!
Also that Cusco Satria Neo, an original car made by Proton was bought by a Japanese tuner, to race in Asia Pacific Rally.
Samir and Vivek: Hats off two you glorious legends.
The footage wasn't "doctored". Vivek and Samir did indeed do everything that the clip showed. Unless the context includes Vivek saying "Samir,for about 3 minutes I am going to say things that are completely untrue" then I don't know how you could call it defamation.
Yeah I feel pretty mislead by him saying “it wasn’t actually real” only for it to turn out it’s 100% real… pretty annoying tbh
yeah that is definitely misleading. There's nothing fake about it. And when you watch it - it is clearly an edited compilation vid. I also don't think it's 'devious' to edit a video THAT THE OWNER ALREADY POSTED.
@@Austin.Kilgore100% real AND he even states the car had to be retired... ie, Samir fkn broke it.
@@jonnyharris2612apparently, Indian courts agreed with you that the edit wasn't defamation because they released Setna.
You know what's worse than a viral video....
Yes. Ads put into videos when I pay for premium lol
You can select a skip ad option in the settings.
@@sanman9385 Where? Can't find it anywhere in the UA-cam app.
@@spaceshipearth356 it's premium UA-cam I think.
@@sanman9385 I have YT premium, but can't see it anywhere.
Hilarious. Even the Indians who pay for premium yt get ads! My heart swells, not from pride, but from endomyocarditis and butter chicken curry. 😂❤
Small game I play had a small video with this.
It’s a space sim (and you can play in VR) but the ship they were flying was nicknamed “The Vomit Comet”. One of the fastest moving ships with almost uncontrollable sensitive agility. So they took a video of this ship racing in canyons. Truly a masterpiece.
he does the BEST ad segments i act want to watch them instead of skipping them
I'm from Coimbatore, India - the place where some of the rallys featured in this video took place. Worked at a dyno facility located near the airport of that city and got a front row seat to the rally scene in Southern India
you cant save samir. the meme video has no manupilation. it cant be a crime.
Someone editing something you said can never be defamation
So by "doctored" you mean it's just highlights and not that it's altered, and by "it was an arrest" you mean India laws are dumb.
Kinda hate how this video doesn’t really care for what happened to vivek he honestly needs some justice for that video
SAMIR, SAMIR, YOU'RE BREAKING THE CAAAR
Genuine question, is forcing a pedestrian to run into the road so that he doesn't get run over common amongst rally drivers?
no ._.
@@ch._.i._.l._.l._.g._.u._.y Thanks, OP talks about it as if it's completely normal.
Anyone else miss the old thumbnails that aren’t AI generated images? It makes the videos look like they are from completely different channel, it took me seeing this video pop up in my recommended 3 times for me to realize it was an even an Albon video
I didn't realise it was one until I watched the video. Ugh.
Career is temporary, “Samir you’re breaking the car” is eternal
0:27 "The footage was doctored." You mean somebody took all the best parts from the full 80 minutes and put them into a compilation? That's what doctored is to you?
God I hate these idiotic channels.
4 minutes from 40 mins is 1/10th
@@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo And? That's basic video editing. That doesn't make it a "doctored" video. Nobody was claiming the entire run was like this.
@@XP-nt9iy I just tried to explain to you it was 10% or like one score less than 10 ie 9/10 like the score for Starfield 9/10.
@@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo Okay well what’s your point then? Your reply just seems pretty irrelevant to OP’s comment if I’m being honest
@@Austin.Kilgore if you want to consider what you read to be irrelevant that is
In Motorsports like rally and rally raid arguments and fights between crew and mechanics is common, especially after hours of hardcore racing
But honestly everyone’s pretty nice to each other again after a few hours💀
I'm glad Vivek did alright in the end.
The video is funny af and Vivek is the funniest part of the whole thing :)
"Swine flu viral"
Guess it's too soon, but it baffles me to come off a pandemic and see reference of all things
Happy to see it turned out ok for the most part, I don't think the dude making the meme expected or wanted for it to have such a negative impact.
FUN FACT: I hail from Coimbatore and i'm kinda happy to see such a popular meme originate from my hometown!
"Its only a video no one will remember tomorrow"
Aggiungerei anche la frase "occhio che si scivola"
Thank you for setting the record straight.
The people involved really deserved this,
so thanks again for this... edutainment! (:
... I still like the original meme video, can not deny that. ;)
Honestly google need to take his voice for maps and pay him. Vivek would be lived forever in people’s head. love to have that voice as navigator.
Justice for Samir!
Samir was breaking the car!, he was a mediocre driver with a ton of money. I can't feel sorry for him
he can afford it though, i dont know what are you complaining about 😂😂 @@JP-xd6fm
@JP-xd6fm yes. Thats why he deserves to be made fun of and to lose his mediocre career? It doesnt matter, you dont have to be the best at the sport to participate and not be made fun of. It wasnt as if it was a really high and popular sport either. Not saying the video was fake or doctored, but yes ultimately it did have a damaging effect on the lives of the 2.
When i saw the thumbnail and title just knew it was "Samir you breaking the car!"
1:13 actually, every motorsport, ain't cheap. You have to travel to various tracks and when you crashed, that's when you hear to big vacuum sound in your pocket. Mick Schumacher's crashes in Monaco GP 2022 cost the team more than $1 million to fix his car.
7:58 ...really? What i got was that the driver wasnt listening to the nav guy
Bro has his thumbnail made from an AI by the looks of it
I'm glad that Vivek was able to turn things around.
"anyone whos ridden shotgun in a nissan altima knows how he felt" Best quote ive ever heard
So it's not fake, it's just cut together to a compilation. Still hilarious xD
Years of me telling people Samir is actually a good driver cultivated into this
Already knew this fact but not the story behind it, great job!
I’m glad to learn about the history of this. Thanks for another video.
Samir and vivek will remain legends in our hearts
That "consequenzes" crash wasnt a rally crash. That was a pikes peak hillclimb crash at devils playground
almost got me with a sponsor bar
The ad in this video is longer than the video.
How you managed to stretch this to 1 minutes is impressive
Why is he fat and fit at the same time?
💀💀💀
Ever heard the word stout?
@@someonejustsomeone1469 no
Man this is such an underrated channel! Quality content💪🏽
You're wrecking the car Samir!
How was it altered (really just confused) he just cut the video and highlighted the funny parts, I didn't get where he altered the images, the things in the video actually happened even if there is more context to it. It's not a fake video.