Group B: The Race That Killed Its Own Fans

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  • @spacetoaster7
    @spacetoaster7 Рік тому +4108

    Always wondered how much longer Group B would have lasted if they took action to fix it’s problems sooner

    • @vilkku3922
      @vilkku3922 Рік тому +218

      a year longer and it would have been replaced by group s

    • @bennyb.1742
      @bennyb.1742 Рік тому +171

      The idea was basically not to fix the problems, double down and effectively have people run LMP cars on dirt to be even more insane. Group S would have been really silly.

    • @vilkku3922
      @vilkku3922 Рік тому +78

      @Raspian Kiado and cars having basically no safety features

    • @johanstjern4118
      @johanstjern4118 Рік тому +39

      Then it would have been replaced by group S which would have been a disaster. LMP cars that are not based on road cars is a dream by executives who dont understand the fans and the car guys. Also a pipedream for the one or two team with the most money. It always ends in loss of intrest from the fans and teams jumping off cuz of higher dev cost to be competetive.

    • @midlifeparty
      @midlifeparty Рік тому +6

      @@bennyb.1742 LMP on dirt 😄😄😄😄😄💀

  • @janelavie4115
    @janelavie4115 Рік тому +1012

    Henri Toivonen in an interview just before the crash: ”This is crazy. We are driving in this rally more kilometres in a day than the whole Rally Sweden. It’s not about physical fatigue, but mental. Brains do not follow.” Those were his last words.

    • @sidvyas8549
      @sidvyas8549 Рік тому +46

      Holy shit

    • @AgentStir
      @AgentStir Рік тому

      Every time someone dies in a race, they know it's coming.

    • @GFY127
      @GFY127 10 місяців тому +35

      Yep.. I've seen the interview... I've seen Henri Toivonen and hannu mikkola protest about the events being too long and not being able to maintain concentration.... in fact after Toivonen's death the events were finally shortened somewhat.

    • @janelavie4115
      @janelavie4115 10 місяців тому +23

      @@GFY127 Yes. Once again had to kill somebody first.

    • @AaronD492
      @AaronD492 9 місяців тому +13

      His last recorded words

  • @thatkamz
    @thatkamz Рік тому +291

    Rally in Portugal was insane. It was like the country stopped just for the races. My mother, the safest, calmest and most cautious person in the world, to this day says that her biggest dream is to be inside a rally car while it zooms through the road. That's how insane rally was in Portugal. One of my earliest ever memories, is being at a rally with my parents, them running just to get the perfect spot to show me the cars

  • @kwanshawn
    @kwanshawn Рік тому +544

    God, watching those people stand so close to the track is absolutely bonkers

    • @dansihvonen8218
      @dansihvonen8218 Рік тому +25

      Yeah, you can't be much closer when you are on the actual track.

    • @hundkebab2433
      @hundkebab2433 Рік тому

      morons should've gotten wasted sooner

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 Рік тому +44

      @@dansihvonen8218
      Absolute madness. You'd see them facing down the cars sometimes too... what the hell?! I've seen cars have to slow down to avoid hitting Darwin hopefuls quite a few times over the years.

    • @mikezelinski4945
      @mikezelinski4945 Рік тому

      They're idiots
      Could you imagine fans on the track at Road America?

    • @JohnnyGification
      @JohnnyGification Рік тому +12

      Why would you guys call it bonkers and madness? Wouldn't it be more on the side of stupidity?

  • @littlepoolefam3
    @littlepoolefam3 Рік тому +8

    Hey, man! I have been watching a few of your videos, and I have to say that I appreciate what you do for your viewers. I am 51 and used to race go-karts with the likes of Bryan Herta, one or two of the Pedregon brothers, and Page Jones, and a lot has happened since then. Of course, all of them went on to do bigger and better things, with the exception of Page Jones' life changing accident. Since those days, I haven't been involved much in the racing scene, but I have tried to keep up as best as I can, so watching your videos has been a little refreshing. It has brought back some memories, good and bad, but it is obvious that you do your homework before posting. Thank you for doing this. Again, it is refreshing to watch your videos, especially to see someone much younger than I am be so involved in doing what you do. Keep up the good work, brother!

  • @TheBlaert
    @TheBlaert Рік тому +30

    After Group B ended a lot of the cars were modified even further and became Rallycross monsters. I used to watch them testing at an aerodrome where I grew up and those things were shockingly fast

  • @ethantran178
    @ethantran178 Рік тому +338

    One of the reasons I love group b, was that the drivers weren't rivals,well, not as much as other racing types, they all banded together to get their voices out and i find that incredible, that doesn't happen too often

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    • @kaushikraikar1105
      @kaushikraikar1105 Рік тому +13

      I think it happens because drivers don't see each other during racing as well, since they all focus on racing against nature more than to each other.

    • @ethantran178
      @ethantran178 Рік тому

      @@kaushikraikar1105 Yeah, but imo drivers should interact more with each other

    • @andrewharris7868
      @andrewharris7868 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, it was a time where driver's mostly partied and drank beer together. Less ego, more comradely

    • @Narayan_Patki
      @Narayan_Patki Рік тому +2

      @@kaushikraikar1105 that sounds viable given that downhill mountain biking has the same "racing against nature" focus and has the same comradery. its unlikely that is a coincidence.

  • @chrisdingley9277
    @chrisdingley9277 Рік тому +834

    How those people can stand on a racetrack without worrying about the risks blows my mind

    • @yourhandlehere1
      @yourhandlehere1 Рік тому +214

      As you go through life you will find that quite a lot of humans are just plain stupid.

    • @bigal3109
      @bigal3109 Рік тому +36

      “Safety” in numbers

    • @potatojake197
      @potatojake197 Рік тому

      Y'all are just boring 🥱

    • @chrisdingley9277
      @chrisdingley9277 Рік тому +18

      @@potatojake197 boring?? 🤣 i just don’t wanna die lad

    • @potatojake197
      @potatojake197 Рік тому +1

      @@chrisdingley9277 That's a tad boring

  • @asedkarim7551
    @asedkarim7551 Рік тому +851

    Honestly so sad to see, group B created some of the best cars ever. Would love to see it come back.

    • @bennyb.1742
      @bennyb.1742 Рік тому +19

      I mean, it pretty much is. Modern hybrid WRC is basically Group B from space.

    • @beatles42ohgg94
      @beatles42ohgg94 Рік тому +65

      @@bennyb.1742 no, very very far from the truth.
      the only reason drivers are faster now is the batman preparation theory.
      they keep the roads maintained and every team has an entire R&D department dedicated year around to helping these people get the best times .
      group B drivers did it with a few low speed test runs and faith in their co driver.

    • @beatles42ohgg94
      @beatles42ohgg94 Рік тому +27

      @Raspian Kiado it really had nothing to do with the spectators.
      since there was such lack in regulation, there was a lot of speculation that most teams would eventually cheat the few safety rules they had
      nobody talks enough about the paper mache roll cages..
      little bits of flimsy metal shouldnt be the only remnants of these cars.
      like, a lot of the crashes you couldnt find the roll cages. just the thin strips used to keep the body mods on

    • @The_One_Over_There
      @The_One_Over_There Рік тому +11

      i feel like it could be both, The cars, And the spectators.
      If the cars were safer but the spectators were still messing with the drivers trying to trip them and sabotaging certain drivers, Something bad was bound to happen there at some point.
      But same goes the other way around, If the cars didn't change, Something would probably still go horribly wrong due to the way they were even without spectators jumping in.
      But that's just my 2 cents though.

    • @kelzuya
      @kelzuya Рік тому +7

      @@The_One_Over_There Also any team could hypothetically pay someone to stand in front of a rivals car (whilst pretending to be a spectator)

  • @91lemlem
    @91lemlem Рік тому

    Only the 2nd video of yours I've seen as I only stumbled on your channel recently and you have a new subscriber. Even though I already know the content being covered it's great to see it being covered in a different way, by a passionate fan. Keep up the great work.

  • @adrianbianco127
    @adrianbianco127 Рік тому +3

    I just found this Channel today! Will share with my friends! This man is great, passionate historian! Truly I have learned so much from these videos and the editing is incredible! I can’t wait for the next video!!!😊

  • @Daferpare
    @Daferpare Рік тому +416

    I'm portuguese, and my father went to that Portugal race when he was a teenager. He was a few curves away from where the accident happened so he didn't see it, but he still remembers seeing heavily injured people, some missing legs, when he was leaving. Rally Group B was so crazy, it's even hard to believe that it was allowed in the first place.

    • @corail53
      @corail53 11 місяців тому +25

      They could have kept it going, all they needed to do was better spectator managment.

    • @stellviahohenheim
      @stellviahohenheim 11 місяців тому +9

      ​@@corail53no it's a good solution to overpopulation

    • @mau5yb0y182
      @mau5yb0y182 8 місяців тому

      It should still be around, but spectators have to ruin everything. How hard is it to see that a car is barrelling down the road towards you at over 110kmh? Get off and away from the fucking road.

    • @lukewoodside9420
      @lukewoodside9420 8 місяців тому +12

      Group B was fine. The issue was spectators being allowed on / near the track.

    • @ZeroESG.goopootoob
      @ZeroESG.goopootoob 8 місяців тому

      "Allowed?" People should be free to race. The fans on the sidelines were the idiots. Let them be idiots too.
      This should be titled, _The Fans That Killed Their Own Race._

  • @miata_man5632
    @miata_man5632 Рік тому +200

    Group B was incredible, I truly wish I would've been alive to witness it in person. I doubt there will ever be another motorsport quite like it.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 Рік тому +1

      True. A very unique page in motorsport!

    • @somebodysomeone3231
      @somebodysomeone3231 Рік тому +5

      there is a other motorsport much , much more dangerous of this and it's called TT man of isle check it out !!! those dudes are insane !

    • @derpydood9986
      @derpydood9986 Рік тому +2

      There’s Isle of Man tt

    • @sidvyas8549
      @sidvyas8549 Рік тому

      @@somebodysomeone3231 those dudes are next level. Absolute madmen

  • @tomlepski8306
    @tomlepski8306 Рік тому

    Man, looking at your image as you give the narrative, you are a relatively young man and certainly wasn't around during the group B era but boy, your research is superb, impeccable,accurate,and well done. I was around and witnessed it all, collected lots of material from the Teams at the time and I can tell you, you've nailed it spot on. Good job mate!

  • @cerberus1166
    @cerberus1166 Рік тому +498

    i absolutely love how you said exactly how it is. group B didnt have to go. they should have listened to the drivers and limited spectator contact and made safer cages.

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    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy Рік тому

      safer cages are heavier. and teams were already using cardboard for cages to pass inspections.

    • @iggiewalsh2237
      @iggiewalsh2237 Рік тому +1

      rally driving is inherently dangerous. that danger is magnified tenfold when you have large sponsorships like visa

    • @cerberus1166
      @cerberus1166 Рік тому +5

      @@0xsergy so are turbos but they were fine with throwing those on instead of developing better engines.

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy Рік тому +2

      @@cerberus1166 turbod engines have the best powr to weight tho. You can only do so much with 14.8psi atmo pressure.

  • @Alexandros1972P
    @Alexandros1972P Рік тому +2

    Your videos are true tutorials of the automotive and racing history!!
    Keep on the great job you're doing!

  • @Meipuruu
    @Meipuruu Рік тому +525

    No matter how many videos I watch about Group B, I never get bored of it.
    Great video!

    • @johnbernhardtsen3008
      @johnbernhardtsen3008 Рік тому +9

      crazy hardcore fans too! I remember a winner of Group B met a fan he actually hit and broke the fans leg!he apologized, and the fan got angry with him!he said "You won Group B, you dont apologize!" over 800 horsepower on a car Less than 800 kilos!dual turbo was a bit overkill!

    • @cabbage4118
      @cabbage4118 3 місяці тому

      for real i can watch audi quattro rally vids forever

  • @Bjorgolf553
    @Bjorgolf553 Рік тому +156

    Can confirm the crash of Joaquim Santos, one of the women i worked with on my first job is the daughter of one of Santos team meachanic and hearing her talk about it and how her father saw Santos still in shock after getting back to them was mind blowing.
    I can also confirm that we Portuguese are crazy about motorsport, be it Rally, Rallycross, Hillclimb, F1 or MotoGP. If it has wheels and an engine, we go crazy over it

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    • @Bjorgolf553
      @Bjorgolf553 Рік тому +14

      @@Coop_De_La_Woop you don't get much love and attention at home, do you?

    • @Optical_slay3r
      @Optical_slay3r Рік тому +1

      @@Bjorgolf553 what ever he said was bad enough for the reply to be hidden for me so...

    • @jesuschristiscallingyou953
      @jesuschristiscallingyou953 Рік тому +3

      You Portuguese are just passionate people. It's in your DNA. 😁

    • @Bjorgolf553
      @Bjorgolf553 Рік тому +2

      @@jesuschristiscallingyou953 oh yeah, that's for sure. Once i got my license i got passionate about cars and then i got passionate about motorcycles and got my motorcycle license

  • @Ghostie.
    @Ghostie. 7 місяців тому

    This was a great mini doc. Thanks dude!

  • @APlagueOfButterflies
    @APlagueOfButterflies Рік тому +23

    I saw this in Portugal as a teenager and I feel in love with rally. Portuguese spectators are insane!

  • @bastard748
    @bastard748 Рік тому +322

    You are not the first UA-camr to do an analysis of Group B, but I most certainly enjoyed yours more. A Razor-sharp intellect coupled with a prodigious amount of hard-core research and spiced to perfection by being a good narrator. I think you've overtaken Hunter's Moon

    • @albonfilms
      @albonfilms  Рік тому +17

      Hunter's Moon is fantastic! Love his analysis and of course his deep voice!

    • @mr.mr.2318
      @mr.mr.2318 Рік тому +2

      I've seen it all, I thought, for Group B on UA-cam and beyond, but I still learned something new from this video :)

    • @ghstie
      @ghstie Рік тому +2

      Somebody wants a thousand bucks!

    • @fxnr1r
      @fxnr1r Рік тому

      @@albonfilms one of the most balanced voice ever.

    • @nibbacheese3787
      @nibbacheese3787 Рік тому

      I love both but Hunters Moon takes quite a while to upload tho

  • @yurischwartz9879
    @yurischwartz9879 Рік тому +130

    I love watching videos of Group B races. They're just so raw and visceral compared to any of their counterparts.

    • @simplyskrypt3914
      @simplyskrypt3914 Рік тому +6

      I guess visceral is an appropriate choice of words after your car splatters 32 people's internal organs in a single crash

    • @David-qw5vr
      @David-qw5vr Рік тому +3

      @@simplyskrypt3914 bloody hell

    • @simplyskrypt3914
      @simplyskrypt3914 Рік тому +2

      @@David-qw5vr yeah that too

    • @ExaltedDuck
      @ExaltedDuck Рік тому +2

      Ever see the short film Climb Dance? It's glorious. Ari Vatanen's 1988 record-breaking run up Pike's Peak in a 4-wheel steering Peugot 405 Turbo 16 design for Group S... The editing is sublime.

    • @MoskusMoskiferus1611
      @MoskusMoskiferus1611 Рік тому

      @@simplyskrypt3914. That reminds me of some Le Mans accident

  • @kennethgray7020
    @kennethgray7020 4 місяці тому

    I'm not even into rally car racing, but I gotta say - this video was still super interesting and entertaining. I didn't know a thing about rally racing before watching this. So I learned quite a bit. If I ever was to get into racing it would be stuff like this that would be my focus. Super cool stuff that looks like it would be fun to be a part of. Thanks for making this video and sharing it with us! 👍 Have a good one and ✌️ out!

  • @timo55x
    @timo55x 6 місяців тому

    Great video, I love the group B cars. Cool to see some deeper history about them.

  • @marcosantos1547
    @marcosantos1547 Рік тому +368

    The memories I have from group B will for ever stay with me, I remember as a kid going to Sintra in Portugal 🇵🇹 with my family and see these monster cars and drivers on the narrow roads, the smells, noises and the roar of the crowds it’s too hard to describe. What a great thing it was but times change. Now to get close to this kind of experience only at the Isle of Man 🇮🇲 TT 😮

    • @pedroluis758
      @pedroluis758 Рік тому +10

      Portuguese here!
      I was a teenager at that time. I enjoyed so much those competitions.

    • @mikezelinski4945
      @mikezelinski4945 Рік тому +4

      You were fortunate

    • @andregon4366
      @andregon4366 Рік тому +5

      I was born in 83.
      By the time I realised it, Group B was over a long time ago.

    • @JohnDRambo
      @JohnDRambo Рік тому +1

      The Isle is on a completely different level..

    • @Randompersonyouwontseeagain
      @Randompersonyouwontseeagain Рік тому +1

      @Marco Santos my dad has been on TV at isle of man rally he drove the Cash for kids in 2008 I think

  • @ScammedKid420
    @ScammedKid420 Рік тому +47

    Rally fans haven't changed, I attended WRC Rally Croatia this year and I stood on a hill before a hairpin, a lot of people stood on the outside of a decently fast hairpin when the road was wet, a marshal came before the event started and told the people to go away but after the marshal left more and more people came back to the hairpin. There were like 30-50 people behind the guardrail of the hairpin

    • @Wish_I_was_Righteous
      @Wish_I_was_Righteous Рік тому +19

      So the spectators are also the fucking issue

    • @cjolney
      @cjolney Рік тому +31

      @@Wish_I_was_Righteous the spectators are THEE main fucking issue. Sadly it doesn't matter, a group of people would get hit by a car and almost die, and they'll be right back next year standing in the same spot.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 Рік тому +7

      I also saw footage of a recent rally event where idiots were setting off rockets and fireworks on a fast right hander in the dark. I'd have the lot carted off and given a lifetime ban.

  • @solracer66
    @solracer66 Рік тому +1

    I worked service for a friend of mine at the last Group B rally, the 1986 Olympus Rally in Tacoma Washington. But my buddy wasn't even close to a Group B driver, his car of choice was a SAAB 96 which was reaching the end of its eligibility. So the last Group B rally was also the last WRC rally for the venerable SAAB 96! Unfortunately my friend's car gave out about half-way through, regulating us to spectators. We were well aware of what had happened earlier in the year and took some precautions (made easier by the small crowds compared to Europe) but in retrospect in a couple of cases maybe not enough (though I was standing next to Steve Millen at one point so it's not like we were clueless newbies compared to everyone else, that's just the way it was. It did make for some good memories and some inside access as since we were part of the rally we had access to the drivers and other team workers that we would not have had otherwise. I also spectated at the '87 and '80 Olympus WRC rallies but they weren't the same as that 1986 race which I will never forget!

  • @redist4088
    @redist4088 9 місяців тому +1

    group B objective:
    1. win
    2. alive (optionable)

  • @kirkfengel373
    @kirkfengel373 Рік тому +66

    Nicely presented: good energy, interesting info, excellent lack of smarm. Cheers!

  • @Canalbiruta
    @Canalbiruta Рік тому +89

    Yup, the reason why i loved rally so much. Watching group B era of rally was mesmerizing not only because the cars were fast, but also that the drivers were so skilled that they could pull off crazy corners in such fast cars driving on dirt and gravel.

  • @ghostdv1239
    @ghostdv1239 Рік тому +3

    Even after these gruesome incidents group B still is and will continue being remembered with fondness for the legendary cars and drivers it had

  • @vic98auto
    @vic98auto Рік тому +38

    The 80s.... Crazy times but memorable ones. Those that saw those monster cars will never forget.

  • @TheAcethunder32
    @TheAcethunder32 Рік тому +397

    Group B was so exciting to watch. Fans knew the risk.

    • @rhuttrho88
      @rhuttrho88 Рік тому +46

      They got what they wanted!

    • @stealtoe9036
      @stealtoe9036 Рік тому +21

      Exactly just don't bring your kids

    • @ishankelkar4347
      @ishankelkar4347 Рік тому +1

      @@stealtoe9036 😏

    • @ianactually
      @ianactually Рік тому +55

      The fans didn't know the risk, that's the whole point.
      "Fans" didn't know the chance that when pushing hard, the car might strike a rock or log on the apex and launch itself into 50 spectators too close by, or fall off a ditch in a power slide and catapult into a 'safe' space of families and amateur photographers. Those were the risks.
      It was exciting, it was almost beyond belief, but it was the lack of crowd control that killed it.

    • @sankaplays3098
      @sankaplays3098 Рік тому +4

      Its not about the fans, its about the drivers, what if you kill a dude because he wanted to touch your car zooming past at 100 MPH?

  • @PepinCar
    @PepinCar Рік тому

    OMG finally a saab 96 in the video and a saab 99 THANK YOU i love you put them in!

  • @ccrider3435
    @ccrider3435 Рік тому

    Another fantastic production Albon! Great work, thank you.

  • @gusparlow
    @gusparlow Рік тому +15

    I've been preparing my wheels for paint this last days and I have to say this was one of the best videos to watch while I work on my car. Keep it up

  • @calebyoung1018
    @calebyoung1018 Рік тому +12

    You are a great story teller and I always find myself checking to see if you've uploaded. I've always wanted to know more about rally, so I appreciate you making this video

  • @Missch_1
    @Missch_1 Рік тому +1

    CONGRATS ON 200K!!!

  • @Nacimin
    @Nacimin 4 місяці тому

    Exceptional work in narrating Group B history! Well done!!

  • @lelleck0077
    @lelleck0077 Рік тому +61

    My dad was at one of the group b races and told me about it. He said it gave him pure adrenaline being this close to the cars

  • @SuddenDeath507
    @SuddenDeath507 Рік тому +38

    I would have loved to see a race just once. It looks primal.

    • @Franko384
      @Franko384 Рік тому +3

      You should go see a modern WRC Event. The top class cars are much faster than the group b cars.

    • @SuddenDeath507
      @SuddenDeath507 Рік тому +2

      @@Franko384 That's fair. I'm thinking of how it would be like seeing a movie in theaters instead of on DVD. Nothing beats seeing it in the fresh format.

    • @realQuiGon
      @realQuiGon Рік тому +6

      @@Franko384 While they the modern WRC cars can indeed go much faster through a stage than group B cars, they lack the raw power and especially the imperfectness of group B cars, as the modern WRC cars are full with high tech stuff that makes it much easier to drive them than a Group B car, making the driving much more perfect and thus more boring (but safer!) than the wild action of Group B, where drivers constantly had to fight the car to stay on course.

    • @Franko384
      @Franko384 Рік тому +5

      @@realQuiGon 380 HP+ is definitely enough power. And don't forget about the ridicoulus 50 meter+ Jumps the new rally cars can take without shattering.

    • @Franko384
      @Franko384 Рік тому +6

      @@realQuiGon For me, the thing that sets group b apart from modern rally is the variety. Modern WRC Cars all sound similar and share a lot of components, while group b cars had very different approaches to their design phylosophy.
      The modern WRC cars are less interesting but more exciting, if that makes sense.

  • @BuilderLee72
    @BuilderLee72 Рік тому

    Have to say, excellent work on sifting through the minefield that was Group B rallying during the 80's.
    Blessings be upon you

  • @JackMildwaters
    @JackMildwaters Рік тому +1

    Wonderful video. It's awesome that our off-road motorsport today, especially desert racing, still has the spirt and feels of the immortal group b.
    When talking about these topics, people need to realise that motosport is dangerous even today. There's a reason Mercedes pulled out of racing for a crazy amount of years or that 50 something drivers have died in f1 since debut.
    I believe at the bottom line it makes it worth doing. As they say, the closer you are to death, the more you feel alive!

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  • @alidurrani8622
    @alidurrani8622 Рік тому +55

    I love watching your videos. Thanks for the content.

    • @albonfilms
      @albonfilms  Рік тому

      Glad you like them! Thank you for watching!

  • @DanielAsato98
    @DanielAsato98 Рік тому +16

    It never gets old learning about Group B, you certainly made it even more interesting!

  • @navalhodossantos
    @navalhodossantos 8 місяців тому

    Very good video! Thank you and congrats from a Portuguese “small” rally driver!

  • @Mag_Nus32
    @Mag_Nus32 Рік тому

    Really good video, nice work all round

  • @Takumitsuu
    @Takumitsuu Рік тому +18

    I never knew anything about group B rally before this video! Albon, you made a great documentary!

  • @freyjames4663
    @freyjames4663 Рік тому +3

    This is eye opening. I can see how much you put in so much work on this topic. I love watching your videos 😇.

  • @alexjones4679
    @alexjones4679 Рік тому

    As always, great content man, good stuff. Gotta say though, the statement "no hp limits" is a bit misleading, perhaps 'unreasonably high' is more accurate haha. However, this was a brilliantly put together and informative and full of obvious passion for the sport.

  • @xanderyesilirmak956
    @xanderyesilirmak956 Рік тому

    Love the vid. Could we please have metric units too in the future?

  • @GT-Z-
    @GT-Z- Рік тому +12

    You're staring to become one of my top 5 automotive youtube channels !
    Great video as always

    • @albonfilms
      @albonfilms  Рік тому

      I am very humbled you think so! We just want to spread the love of cars 😊

    • @aleisterhanley151
      @aleisterhanley151 Рік тому

      Lmao that's sad, literal self report

  • @evo3s75
    @evo3s75 Рік тому +7

    Nice video, I was always in awe seeing the Group B going through forests and mountains so insanely quick

  • @semme01
    @semme01 11 місяців тому

    Awesome storytelling, Albon!! That video was over in a blink of an eye!!

  • @blacksheepdetecting
    @blacksheepdetecting Рік тому

    Great video surprised you didn't feature the metro 6R4 .a group B monster.

  • @bohoaDev
    @bohoaDev Рік тому +5

    I was sad this video ended. Great video of the era! Thanks

  • @rust405
    @rust405 Рік тому +16

    I bleeding love rallying. You covered Group B in a much better way than others.

  • @imagehunter1
    @imagehunter1 Рік тому

    I love Albon’s material and presentation 👍🏼great stuff…keep it up 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @blacklazard2081
    @blacklazard2081 Рік тому

    I remember watching the videos of those reaces... always wondered what happened that i did not see those pop up anymore.

  • @alvinpunnackal3147
    @alvinpunnackal3147 Рік тому +46

    Group was the pinnacle of rally racing. It was the answer to the question" how far could we go in the ultimate pursuit of speed"?. There has never been anything like it before and after. But it came at a cost.

    • @alexcarrara8140
      @alexcarrara8140 Рік тому +9

      Hey, if people are dumb, they pay the price. I would have totally continued it.

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@alexcarrara8140
      I mostly care about the people in the cars, their safety and their mental health.
      But yeah, they definitely should have mandated Mad-Max style grille guards, among other things.

    • @stpbasss3773
      @stpbasss3773 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@alexcarrara8140The drivers were complaining they couldn't keep up with these insane cars. Screw the spectator thing these cars were straight up deadly for the drivers.

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@stpbasss3773which sadly happened to Bettega and Toivonen. As well as 3 spectators.

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@stpbasss3773which sadly happened to Bettega and Toivonen. As well as 3 spectators.

  • @menno615
    @menno615 Рік тому +3

    Ive spent a lot of time getting to know more about one of my passions through your videos, therefor thanks!!

  • @dudemark5371
    @dudemark5371 Рік тому

    Nice video learned alot about rally's past.

  • @GxG_TM
    @GxG_TM Рік тому

    Legends were born in group B ! Nice video !

  • @histandard31
    @histandard31 Рік тому +3

    Another amazing video! Great story telling and in depth information!

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  • @mm6705
    @mm6705 Рік тому +5

    That a legend. Actually giving credit to the youtube channel the particular clip is from...Thats respectful. Every channel needs to take notes

  • @D3Vlicious
    @D3Vlicious Рік тому +2

    One thing to remember that the "Groups" were used in motorsport in general and not just rally. Group A actually competed in both rally and sports cars and Group B sport cars were also in the works from Porsche and Ferrari. It was only Group C that was purely sports prototypes which didn't get used in rally.

  • @sened1245
    @sened1245 Рік тому +10

    It was the most exciting but also the most tragic period of rallying.

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  • @yashaglitches
    @yashaglitches Рік тому +3

    Just recently discovered this channel. Definitely some great content. Much appreciated!!

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  • @MultiMrMike1
    @MultiMrMike1 Рік тому +3

    This feels like a very short documentary, and I love it!

  • @robbiemercury889
    @robbiemercury889 Рік тому

    I just started watching your vids but I already love them😊

  • @tonyelberg7814
    @tonyelberg7814 Рік тому +1

    Great video mate really well done, used to love group B it was and still is the best racing around, 👍👍👍👍

  • @kpkp7094
    @kpkp7094 Рік тому +17

    10:35 You forgot to mention there that one major reason for his death was the rollcage since after some investigation they found out that the roll cage was made out of paper which made the car very fragile

    • @bigd5899
      @bigd5899 Рік тому +6

      I saw an interview with röhrl recently and the way he described the lancia 037‘s roll cage was nothing short of terrifying. He said that you could see it flex when going over bumps and knew all along that a crash meant certain death. its crazy that they raced these things under rally conditions.

  • @PhilAudet
    @PhilAudet Рік тому +9

    I'm a sim racer and and even virtually, those cars are literal monsters! Keep up the good work.

  • @adamditch5835
    @adamditch5835 Рік тому

    Awesome cars, drivers & noise.. The greatest era of Motorsport.
    I will never forget those times..

  • @maxskogh6289
    @maxskogh6289 Рік тому

    Having been to Finnish wrc rally in the 90s was so much different from today. The barrier was a plastic safety tape and if you ventured out into the woods, there were huge gaps in where no barrier existed. Now every meter of the rally stages has guardrails or guards. You can only watch from specified zones. Going to a rally stage is not as fun anymore. Its too crowded and you see better from the TV. The special stages and the mechanics area is the only place worth it, at least with how expensive the entry fees are

  • @Patronciozo
    @Patronciozo Рік тому +16

    The group B always felt like something out of this world, I was something that was meant to end. "An long joy ends in sorrow"...

  • @JuanHernandez-pz2mx
    @JuanHernandez-pz2mx Рік тому +15

    The spectators were literally 'bullfighting' the cars, I say those that got caught up got what they were looking for.

    • @frosthammer917
      @frosthammer917 Рік тому +2

      Yeah but the mental toll it takes on the driver, who wants no part in that, must be insane. That's what pisses me off about letting spectators onto the tracks.

  • @PowerstrokeSynd
    @PowerstrokeSynd Рік тому

    New subscriber, great content and production.

  • @paperclihp3588
    @paperclihp3588 Рік тому +1

    I am trying to get into the history of rally and this video is amazing

  • @MarkKoolen
    @MarkKoolen Рік тому +6

    Every video of group B gives a kind of the same info, but every group B video tickles me to watch them 20 times

  • @captainnope747
    @captainnope747 Рік тому +8

    The Stratos will always be one of my favorite cars, even if it wasn't in Group B. It's like a little flying saucer for the dirt, with a cool over cabin wing

  • @theotherwayofstopping4717
    @theotherwayofstopping4717 Рік тому

    I can still remember watching these monsters flying past a young me when they came to New Zealand. Had a huge poster of the 205 T16, 704EXC75. That and the Delta S4 were my favorties.

  • @taylorschoppe9656
    @taylorschoppe9656 Рік тому

    Ove always admired Group B Rally, it really is sad that they didn't just listen to the drivers. Great vid btw.

  • @romainlavoie1526
    @romainlavoie1526 Рік тому +3

    Excellent documentary and I agree , If only management would have paid close attention to the drivers recommendations - perhaps Group B would still exist !

  • @carlosmgbrunen6157
    @carlosmgbrunen6157 Рік тому +8

    Group B was crazy and very dangerous, but it was awesome too! It has given us lots of iconic and spectacular images :)

    • @carlosmgbrunen6157
      @carlosmgbrunen6157 Рік тому +1

      But yeah, banning Group B was the right decision to make.

  • @0wly
    @0wly Рік тому

    @Albon can you make a video on the legendary 33 ish kilometer long Ouninpohja stage in Finland that became too fast for wrc(in a sense that it broke the average speed rule of 130 km/h on multiple occasions last time in 2017 and has not been in the Rally Finland after that.
    Ouninpohja along with Colte de turini in Montecarlo and Fafe in Portugal is oneof the most well known and respected rally stages in the whole world
    Edit even some of the fotage in this video is from that stage.

  • @Dn2kproductions
    @Dn2kproductions Рік тому

    Im amazed how many times this subject has been redone must be the 8th group b docu ive seen aha

  • @Fabiani930
    @Fabiani930 Рік тому

    Portuguese here- thanks for the shout out. we are actually rally crazy here. too bad there´s no more F1 tho. with the exceptions of the last two years haha

  • @harshithsadhana7475
    @harshithsadhana7475 Рік тому +4

    I have seen so many people talking about the glorious group B rally. This version of this group B rally is new. How FIA ignored drivers and team's plea for better conditions for rallying. Thanks albon

  • @haydnredx
    @haydnredx Рік тому +14

    Imagine if group B was still around today. Wonder how it would be like

    • @Viper-ih3yt
      @Viper-ih3yt Рік тому +2

      Insane. That’s the only answer. Imagine what we could do with things like Vtec and more advance turbos. Along with the wider use of carbon fiber parts it would just be insane.

    • @jean-micheldupont1150
      @jean-micheldupont1150 Рік тому

      Pikes Peak's race is quite close concerning car regulations, too bad they paved the road because of some eco lunatics

  • @pv8685
    @pv8685 11 місяців тому

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  • @exoticsdrivendaily4645
    @exoticsdrivendaily4645 Рік тому

    excellent history lesson... keep up the great work

  • @fufu5068
    @fufu5068 Рік тому +6

    Bought a steering wheel to play rally games coz it looks cool in those great Dirt videos. I quit on the first corner lol.

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  • @hephaestus1708
    @hephaestus1708 Рік тому +72

    Always had a dubbel feeling about Group B. On the one hand you don't want anyone to get hurt but at the same time that extreme risk is what made Group B so awesome... also no one forced anyone to get behind the wheel or stand next to the course so thats also one way to look at it.

    • @zedballs
      @zedballs Рік тому +2

      Well... the spectators part is sort of arguable, if the organisers are selling an unlimited number of tickets, far beyond the capacity of the course, it gets iffy. The drivers I totally agree with you, and I'm glad we still have IoM and just road racing in general in bikes.

    • @PJ-hi1gz
      @PJ-hi1gz Рік тому +10

      @@zedballs And I would say on behalf of the drivers, if driving is your profession and your employer wanted to race Group B, you had to race group B

    • @Eventual-Visitor
      @Eventual-Visitor Рік тому +5

      @@zedballs What do you mean selling tickets? Group B rally was free to watch live, hence the sea of people freaking out watching those monsters roaring through slim roads at break neck speed and power, the closest the better.

    • @corail53
      @corail53 11 місяців тому +1

      @@zedballs No one was selling tickets to rally back then.

    • @HarrisChoudhry
      @HarrisChoudhry 9 місяців тому

      I agree. This was all voluntary, everyone knew the risks. It should've gone on.

  • @craiggiles8156
    @craiggiles8156 Рік тому

    I watched the Lombard RAC Rally at Sutton park. You could hear the group B cars from miles away. The Metro 6R4 was awesome.

    • @kibrok
      @kibrok Рік тому

      Me too. We used to follow the rally around finding all the secret stages with CB radio. Just awesome days!!

  • @cgeorge5749
    @cgeorge5749 Рік тому

    I see some parallels with the Isle of Man TT.
    Excellent videos, Albon.

  • @pietrobombieri
    @pietrobombieri Рік тому +7

    This era of rallying was just crazy. But it remains in every petrolhead's heart❤

  • @benjishahaf5414
    @benjishahaf5414 Рік тому +3

    Group B was the most intriguing rally group to ever race, and I would’ve loved to see more safety measures be put in place to continue the races.

  • @bralmeidapt
    @bralmeidapt Рік тому +1

    I was there when the accident took place in Portugal - the place was so packed that there were even people standing on the trees…

  • @garryryan4465
    @garryryan4465 Рік тому

    Just found this channel. I think I found a new favorite.