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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2024

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  • @ashleyhiemstra
    @ashleyhiemstra 3 дні тому +7

    These videos popped up on my feed a week after my family decided to stick to what we were doing as a family..being HIS BODY all week long! We went back to “the building” in search of community, but our eyes were opened in a new way. I could barely sit still in service because I knew something was off. I fell on my face before the Lord and asked Him why and He showed me through His Word what He desires for His Bride. My heart would twist at the thought of Him pouring out His whole life and us throwing it aside as if it wasn’t enough. As if we needed to add to it or modify it to our feelings and traditions. But I desire truth over tradition. His blood will not be wasted. My heart cry is that we would live in the fullness of what He paid for, abiding in constant communion with Him and going OUT and plugging the lost into JESUS, the true source. The living water and the bread that satisfies. The community will come, in fact it has begun and we will continue to be led moment to moment by Him❤ thankful for you guys!

  • @Claire-zu1wo
    @Claire-zu1wo День тому

    Wow😮 most of what you teached is just a confirmation from the Lord
    … Praise God
    …house Church here👋

  • @MelissaHexom
    @MelissaHexom 2 дні тому +1

    This may have been my favorite of this podcast yet!!! I found it so jammed packed with good stuff, I am going to have to listen again! PLEASE keep them coming!!! ❤

    • @JustinKnoop
      @JustinKnoop  2 дні тому

      Amen! Thank you for the encouragement!

  • @celestialcityproductionsin3128

    As an older saint who was in a home church for ten years of a dozen families that really connected and had an outreach 2 nd to none. After we moved from that area the fellowship disbanded. The thing we missed at its very beginnings
    was a doctrinal statement of faith. The Presumption we were all in one accord was sinful and keep us in an unaware state about this. Who would think the Word was shared every week and that this error was in the camp. The result many fractured hearts were left in the wake of this
    renowned experience.
    Your insights are a breath of fresh air to me.
    Keep Going!

  • @michellelandvik4009
    @michellelandvik4009 3 дні тому +3

    I grew up in a dysfunctional, verbally abusive home, and I got saved in high school (around 15 years old). I had been a Christian for around 6 months, and had recently broken up with my boyfriend, and I had so much unforgiveness for my ex boyfriend. I hated him, essentially. I was laying in my bedroom reading my bible, and I told the Lord, "I hate him, and I know it is a sin. You'll have to change my heart. I can't do it." A white hand appeared above my chest, and with one finger, it scooped through my solar plexus area. I felt a cooling sensation (almost like menthol or mint) and I INSTANTLY felt forgiveness. It was amazing. I've experienced the Lord in various ways, but that was the most extraordinary. God is faithful!

  • @davidwalorski5755
    @davidwalorski5755 3 дні тому +1

    Amen!!!!!good word.....we are living in a season where it's time for believers to actually believe and put action to their faith!!! And become the true church of Jesus christ!!!

  • @gracelee9017
    @gracelee9017 2 дні тому +1

    How do you discern and manage your holy discontent so that it doesnt devolve into unholy discontent, namely contempt for the church. We are in an area where we simply cannot find a church with a vision we find compelling. And yet we know and understand that Christianity is not a solo acitivity. There is no option for self study in the way of following Christ. So we have committed to a local church that seems theologically sound enough. It has been hard since the actual culture and practice of the church and its small group feels sleepy and lacking intention, depth, and maturity. But we still go out of sheer obedience to God, understanding that church is not about having our human needs met but about serving God. So what do we do, when we are not in a position to start our own house church? We are also not really in a position to try to change the culture of the church. So i guess i struggle with knowing how healthy is it to hold this discontentment i feel with the state of the church, when im not really sure what to do with it, leaving me prone to discouragement and bitterness. Im not sure the answer is to move some place where there is a church we find compelling.
    Is there a place for stewarding holy discontent without giving up on the local church, and what does that look like?

  • @carolinelindskog3261
    @carolinelindskog3261 2 дні тому

    Just stumbled upon your channel. Wow! I’ve been feeling God pulling me away from the institutional church for quite a while now. I’ve been in church my entire life yet God has been opening my eyes and I’m seeing the things you are sharing on your channel. What a breath of fresh air to have such an awesome confirmation from Him through what you have shared. Question. How would I go about finding a local house church?
    Thanks for the work you’ve put into this channel!! It’s so timely and needed. I think many people are beginning to feel that something is very off. This may be the separation of the wheat from the chaff that the Bible tells us will happen at the end.

  • @rebeccajolliff3378
    @rebeccajolliff3378 2 дні тому +1

    To the point of the church being highly reproducible, I agree. However, maturity and growth do take time. Even Paul, after founding and spending months with the church in Corinth, wrote the letter to the Corinthians 5 years later with instructions on maturing in the Lord and how to live a godly life. Growing in your faith and walk with Jesus is a lifelong journey.
    Also, how do you find an organic true church? I have honestly felt so lost, almost orphaned, because I cannot find a meaningful church to become a part of. Though full of good people, most of churches I have attended tend to follow a very formulaic and superficial pattern to "doing church". I long for a church community like you described ❤

  • @ifnotforgodwithmikezwick7858
    @ifnotforgodwithmikezwick7858 3 дні тому

    I love that story about the Titanic and the Church

  • @MessageFromMarty
    @MessageFromMarty 2 дні тому

    I love this pod....I have read 'Organic Church' and 'Pagan Christianity' as Justin suggested in an earlier episode.....i feel like I'm deconstructing and reconstructing [metamorphosis] for the better. Thx Knoops.

  • @scomcco
    @scomcco 3 дні тому +1

    I think a better analogy would be the church being many boats. Many going in many directions and some just going in circles. Some going fast and some who have all but stopped mvoing. Some churches are big like cruise liners, some are small like house churches, some are old and outdated, and some are new with all the cutting edge tech. All the boats are prone to leak and if a boat sinks it becomes part of the world which is like the ocean in your analogy. Many people have little idea the boat is leaking or think it is normal. It is easier to patch leaks (the world getting into the church) if the boat it small. Some of the big boats just let the leaks go because they are big and can handle some small leaks. Eventaully small leaks will sink a church. The life boats are the small groups that can spawn from a sinking church but they often have the same leaks and the same tendency to ignore them and will eventually sink themselves. Smaller boats with everyone working together can keep the boat above the water. A real world example is the methodist church. The big ship just went down and you have a number of good size life boats left that avoided the plunge. Those boats are still leaking and will eventually sink since they refuse to or cannot patch the leaks.

  • @gailmitchell5101
    @gailmitchell5101 День тому

    Does anyone listening live in Northeast TN? I need thos so bad but im praying for The Lord to bring like minded people. Everyone around me is religious or atheist.

  • @cassieh7860
    @cassieh7860 3 дні тому

    Titanic Warning is a book all about this

  • @gregbarron9450
    @gregbarron9450 2 дні тому

    The huge Titanic didn't save any lives....the small boats did.

  • @gailmitchell5101
    @gailmitchell5101 3 дні тому

    We need a mass exodus from titanic to small life boats. ❤

  • @HannahHanner
    @HannahHanner 3 дні тому

    We saw when you reproduced that system in other places, it caused even more damage 😢💔😭 man we have it all messed up! Thank you Jesus for HOPE! THERE IS MORE!

  • @amysaren6374
    @amysaren6374 3 дні тому

    is it ok to just be with myself and the Lord on Sundays because I do not have anyone else right now in my life to meet with...?

    • @michaeledwards6981
      @michaeledwards6981 2 дні тому

      Absolutely! Following with prayer to bring others in your same place to seek out and join with you for a small group.

  • @matthewashman1406
    @matthewashman1406 2 дні тому

    My Catholic friends would say this is just evidence that everyone should return to the Catholic Church 😮. Maybe they have a point

    • @JustinKnoop
      @JustinKnoop  2 дні тому +2

      The “Catholic” church primarily who institutionalized the church in the first place. We need to move forward but restoring principles from the first century church.

  • @acissej4400
    @acissej4400 3 дні тому

    Poor “Bobby Joe” 😂

  • @colebrewington7948
    @colebrewington7948 4 години тому

    You guys need to post an email address…I have so many questions!