Tim's 2021 Omega Speedmaster Review & Breguet Watches You Should Buy
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2021
- Tonight, Tim offers his first live review of a luxury watch: the 2021 Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch. While the name "Tim Mosso" is synonymous with luxury watch reviews, most of those videos live on The 1916 Company Watch Reviews. Tonight, Tim discusses the newest Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch with a frank take on the new Omega Speedy's successes and shortfalls.
In addition, tonight's show focuses on the value to be had in modern Breguet watches; they're simply the most underrated modern luxury timepieces available today. All of that and watch collector wrist shots can be found on this episode of "Watches Tonight" with Tim Mosso.
The 2021 Omega Speedmaster Professional "Moonwatch" is a big deal. Unlike the 2021 novelties from Rolex and Patek Philippe, even the most coveted Omega novelties tend to be accessibly priced AND available at dealers within a reasonable timeframe. Omega's latest take on its NASA-issued space chronograph marks one giant leap for watch that built its fame on the wrists of astronauts. At 42mm, and stainless steel, the external appearance of the Moonwatch hasn't changed dramatically, but all is new within its ferrous carapace.
Let's start with the exterior; Omega has calculated the dial, bezel, and bracelet of the 2021 Speedmaster Professional to recall the Apollo-era 105.012 Speedmaster that truly did land on the Moon with Neal, Buzz, and third man Michael Collins. A subtle re-profiling of the anodized aluminum tachymeter adds a "dot over 90" and "diagonal dot" at numeral 75. Omega retains the "hesalite" (i.e., plastic) crystal on standard Moonwatches, and the dial beneath features subtly redesigned chronograph registers and hour indices. For sapphire crystal models with display casebacks, Omega's new Moonwatch dial gains an applied metal Omega logo.
Omega's new Moonwatch caliber 3861 is the big news for 2021. First previewed in 2019 on the Apollo XI 50th anniversary limited edition, the 3861 makes huge strides in durability and precision. This is the first Omega Speedmaster Professional to include both a co-axial escapement and a METAS Master Chronometer certification. A free-sprung balance, an antimagnetic silicon hairspring, and hacking seconds round out the changes. For the first time, the display caseback Speedmaster Professional uses the same movement as the closed caseback NASA version, so all examples of the caliber 3861 are cleanly finished.
Moonwatches aside, Tim looks to Swatch Group flagship brand Breguet for overlooked value in an era of relentless watch hype. While watches from Rolex, Patek Philippe, and FP Journe dominate social media and collector conversations, the Breguet brand offers superior products with almost no wait lists at dealers, preowned surcharges, or breathless over exposure on Instagram.
Tim take an extended look at the late model sports watches and dress watches available from Breguet. The famous Breguet Type XX (and XXI, and XXII) pilot's watch, the Marine water resistant sports watch, and the elegant "La Tradition" in all of its forms take pride of place on tonight's show.
Fans of dress watches will be stunned by how much Breguet a watch collector can purchase with a fraction of FP Journe Chronometre Bleu money. From grand feu bleu enamel dials to spectacular open movements, Breguet offers a match for nearly any watch collector taste or wrist size. And for fans of complicated watchmaking, Tim highlights the spectacular value of the Breguet Tradition 7047 tourbillon fusee and the enamel dial Breguet Classique 3420 jump hour.
Watches mentioned include the Omega 310.30.42.50.01.002, the 310.30.42.50.01.001, the 310.32.42.50.01.001, the 310.32.42.50.01.002, and the Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Silver Snoopy 310.32.42.50.02.001
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Truth. Breguet and JLC are the two most underrated brands in the world of fine watchmaking.
Tim truly is the people’s champ of the watch world. A true connoisseur and lover of substance over mere form. Thank you for sharing your passion and insight in a world where marketing counts far more than brand offering.
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Gah! Wish I could have been here for the live. Couldn't agree more on Breguet! BEYOND UNDERRATED! Amazing watches & history
Finally someone that loves watches (BREGUET, JLC) buy watches you like not investments or marketing pieces!
Refreshing episode; thanks, Tim!
Thanks Tim and team. We needed that Breguet episode
Tim, W-O-W! I discovered Breguet over 2 years ago, but never heard anyone talk about it. My sense it had the hand craftsmanship of a DuFour at a fraction of the price. Your ardent and passionate review of Le Maison has put the brand on my purchase list. Plus it can be bought/worn right away plus at a discount. Thanks for your hard work and dedication.
Thanks for talking about Breguet Tim!
Missed your show....but a great chat as usual. See you next week.
great show, thanks
Great to see Breguet get some love. One small point: the Marine 5817 measures 40mm even though Breguet lists it as 39mm. You measured it at 40mm in one of your videos, and I did as well.
Missed that show sadly. Absolutely agree on Breguet! The latest Marine collection is just absolutely amazing, Classique collection is the best dress-watch IMO and best value for money if you go pre-owned. Thanks for bringing that, it was a pleasure to hear that I’m not alone!
Great show Tim. Have been in love with the classical styling of Breguet since I was a teenager. Just such elegance and class
Great point about putting the fluff on the case back rather than the dial. Really never thought that they could put it in the front. The Daytona for instance has too much text on the dial.
Amazing Breguet masterclass!!
Quite an education thank you. Agree about the new Speedmaster. Not all upgrades are good.
Breguet is now on my radar.
Great points
Very interesting to hear your take on Breguet Tim - I've always fancied the blue dial Marine. One of these days I'd love to hear your equivalent take on Piaget. Keep up the good work.
@@the1916companywatchreviews - Go for it!
While the 1863 might be a higher finish, I still think the 3861 is better looking.
Great show Tim.... great description of the underrated Breguet watches. What about the Breguet classique watches?
@@the1916companywatchreviews thanks for the reply
Excellent show, Tim.
Time out. Tim out. Love it. That was down to the wire with Breguet finishing 1,2 and 3 on the podium.
I must say, in a slightly more daring and contemporary traditional manner Ulysse Nardin are going from strength to strength with each passing decade and not unlike Breguet are exceptional value horological pieces throughout, pre-owned in the mid to upper tier offerings.
Own a Breguet TypeXX Transatlantique for about 6 years now and love the watch. Looks great and can wear it with a suit too. Best money I have ever spent on a watch.
Pug! Aspect ratio of an Elephant seal! But soo cute!
Great show tonight. Silly gripe...don't like the clasps on the Type XX-XXII. I find it difficult to open if you have the watch snug on your wrist. Only a push fit.
Had to stop watching earlier because of work....watching now with a fine cigar!
That GP Infinity is gorgeous!
Sauber, Wolfgang!
Wow, great show Tim.
- Agree that Rolex has too much dial text and the SpeedMaster is tasteful. Also agree the sapphire SpeedMaster should be 100 meters water resistant. Really disappointing to see the outsized price increase with de-contented box set.
- Tim, I thought BlancpaiN was Swatch's FlagShip? Why do you say Breguet is?
@@the1916companywatchreviews Thank you! Why is Harry Winston considered something of a mistaken acquisition within Swatch?
I always love these 'undervalued' Watches Tonight shows. My kind of content! On a related note, I might be the only guy who really loves the 5517ti Marine. Semi-stalking the internet for used examples
Ditto. I love to find the real bargains that collectors truly appreciate at affordable prices. I cannot see wearing a watch that costs as much as a home. Watches are made to wear on the wrist not decorate a darkened safe or safety deposit box.
I dig that intro music
I love my breguet marine bucher blue edition, can't believe I've got a one in 30 peices.
I'm definitely happy about the hacking seconds on the Speedmaster but I agree the price is drastically different. I been going back and forth between a Speedmaster Moon watch 3861 or a Zenith Tippo pilot watch 43mm or a chronmaster. I do love the Breguet Areonavale 39mm no date
I definitely agree on the value of Breguet (especially compared to the overhyped models everybody‘s yearning for).
I personally think that apart from lazy marketing it might also be their somehow „weird“ combination of their sportier models (cases, bracelets & straps) with this too much 18th century (or 17th century??) style dials and hands. The pilots models look quite okay but suffer a bit from the same problem (not the hands so much but the calligraphy of their numbers and writing on the dial)…. just my personal explanation for them not standing in the customers focus…. And pure dresswatches are not so sought after in times when even CEO‘s of major companies don’t wear ties any more 🤷🏻…times have changed (and might change back). But I could get weak on the gorgeous looking model with the dark blue dial. This thing is killer!!
Lemania 2310 is a legendary movement but we associate it with Omeg, Patek and Vacheron. Breguet can exploit this movement now and make a fortune out of it. Need more media exposure.
Is it possible to walk in an AD without a history with them and buy/ get on a serious list for a 126234? I just don't want to jump through a bunch of hoops or pay any more than list for a new one. Already have a vintage 16610 but I'd like something new; I just don't know how realistic it is that I could actually get one. Thanks.
he just said kawaii omfg this made my life! hahahah TIM is the MAN!!! Love every single video of watches you make man, youre the best.
@@the1916companywatchreviews yeah my man! is this watch enthusiast also an anime enthusiast? ;) hahah! you bet I pay attention to every word!
@@the1916companywatchreviews too hilarious, well done Tim 😆
Did the show air earlier? I miss the live show again...... cos now is 645am in Singapore but still I missed it. Good great morning/evening guys.
@@the1916companywatchreviews yes..... it is Tim.....more reliable for me to set my own cellphone alert to watch ur live show. Love the topic about Breguet..... they are one of the best of the best watch maker.
8:46 -- interesting point
Hey Tim, after discounting here in Sydney Australia literally yesterday I purchased a new old stock 1861 from an AD for over AUD$3k less than the new model where you are lucky to get a 10% discount. Give me the old version any day for that money.
With this movement, is it ok to have the chronograph hand activated all the time?
The Breguet 7147 may just be the perfect modern evening watch...if only it housed a manually wound calibre.
What do you think about the Jaquet Droz watches?
Love breguet!
SpeedyPro yeah - Omega knows not to mess too much with an icon. Just like WatchBox knows not to mess with Tim's iconic green specs!
I don't have an issue with Omega re-cooping their investment costs with their new caliber. Their profit margin on the OLD watch must have been very high since it had not changed much through the years. So why shouldn't their profit margin be the same or higher on a technically superior watch?
What about the breguet traditional 7097BB automatic? This watch is the first watch to impress me in a long time, fit, finish, looks, price. I don’t think from my watch knowledge that there is any piece out there that beats it, it’s on my mind for my next piece for casual dress or jump on the sport side with the marine first. I believe Breguet will have a much stronger demand in the future years to come once all this hype dies out, Jeff.
I have that watch, the WG version. I can tell you it is chock full of details. Initially, your focus is on the jumping seconds hand. As your length of ownership grows, you also start to appreciate the myriad of exquisite details everywhere. In terms of wearability, it is surprisingly versatile: it is thoroughly a Breguet so it dresses up very well, but is also expressive and avant garde enough that it can be dressed down easily.
I’ve thought for 25 years that Breguet was underrated. Now if they’d bring back the 5817 with the blue guilloché dial then that would be awesome! Why not do the whole dial in blue? How about a version with the standard blue guilloché but a light powder blue hours chapter ring? Why not do the same and combine forest green and mint green? How about an equivalent in deep and light red? I’d take mine with an all burgundy guillochè dial and with blued steel hands, indices, and printing. So many other ideas, so little time!
you mentioned breguet marine pre 2018 model. what happened in 2018, what did they change afterwards?
@@the1916companywatchreviews thanks Tim. I think I completely misunderstood you on that one. Thought they had the changed the marine watch you were showing in 2018. and I couldn’t figure out what might have been changed. But it turns you were referring to the entirely new models they released back then. My bad :)
The Pug is like Omega Getting bigger and thicker!
Tim, Two handers. Breguet 5157 or Lange Saxonia Thin? Thanks!
@@the1916companywatchreviews Thanks for your thoughts!
Can someone please tell me what watch Tim is wearing!
Hi Tim, if you had to go for one would you go for the new hesalite or sapphire sandwich?
I saw the new sandwich and it is wonderful - went for the new de ville Tresor instead in SS
The least expensive Breguet on Watchbox currently is $7,950 but I will keep looking:)
Martin, do not forget everything is negotiable.
I was able to pick up a pre-owned 1861, full set for $3150 last year. I am, however buying the bracelet from the 3861 for $680 from the Omega boutique. No need to sell mine to buy the new one and for out more money.
@@the1916companywatchreviews I agree, was shocked when a friend bought one last Friday for his ultraman. He said they had a few left but I’m in no rush.
Woo!
Breguet Type XX 👍🏼
The main thing that keeps me from a Speedmaster is the lowish water resistance.
Iam all for "un broken pedigree" but if a company has been operating for a century and half and still cant sell its products then its not doing something right.
Omega Speedmaster 3861 or Rolex datejust 41 blue with fluted bezel ?
Speedmaster 3861 ALL DAY
Omega: lets go to the moon! Rolex: hummmm... okay... we cannot go to the moon, Breitling already has a Navitimer, so lets just sponsor some golf and tennis championships and make a huge thing about it! Wow!
I hope they have offered you a stake in the WatchBox company to be available 17/24 hours.
"post-COVID"...haha, that was a good one...
Hope springs eternal.
Best,
Tim
Your sisters pug is one absolute unit
Yeah, it is becoming a bit of a blimp. I think we might need an intervention...
Best,
Tim
HAHAH I LOVED THE FAT PUG PICS!
Breguet is not supposed to be marketed. They don't even have the capibility of producing so many watches. It is supposed to be an aquired taste. They marketed the type XXI and type XXII quite a bit and sold quite a few of them.
That’s not a Pug, it’s a baby Seal🦭 .🤣. Breguet, so much more.🥰
That pug is starting to look like a baby seal. :)
Wait you have a problem on the price but you all are selling a preowned more than a brand new one from Omegas website or AD. That’s hysterical
that [11]3 terribly placed date window.....
Is anyone selling Blue Shirt Buddha t-shirts, hoodies, baseball caps or coffee mugs?
No. 1
Breguet puts Rolex to shame in all that matters except gaudy cheese allure....
Dammit TIM! 😤 Please stop telling people about Breguet. Let it be a secret. [Even though I bought my 5817 4 years ago because of you] Keep it on the low & away from weirdo casual hype collectors. Breguet is an ENTHUSIASTS only brand.
finally taken tat mask 0ff Tim
that type22 is impressive but its kinda ugly
You totally sold the Breguet 😁 and why not to follow the sheep 🐑
No Mask!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
$200 for a velcro strap! Omega, GTFO!
Breguet needs to spend a LOT of time on design and aesthetics rather than cobbling together designs that look to be CAD'ed up by some young engineering grad. They looked finished and opulent for finishing's sake, does not work with the design or a flow or a well thought out whole. Some of them are ugly, almost Ulyse Nardin'esque. Come to think of it, its almost headed that way.
Doesnt have the discipline of Patek, or the looks of a Longe or Vacheron. Difficult to take in. Its sort of sleeping in the past too much, in a very nostalgic French sort of way. Ugh!
In other words its not DESIRABLE, no one wants one. Which is a shame.