Bakhmut: The Bloodiest Battle of the Ukraine War, Explained | WSJ
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- Ukraine and Russia have been engaged in grueling fighting for months over control of the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut. Ukrainian soldiers still fighting for the city say they are wearing down Russian assault forces.
WSJ explains why this city with its challenging terrain has turned into the bloodiest and one of the longest battles of the Ukraine war.
0:00 Moscow has been trying to overtake Bakhmut since July 2022
0:47 Bakhmut’s location, explained
1:41 Why fighting in Bakhmut has been so heavy
2:51 Has Russia’s offensive in Bakhmut lost momentum?
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When I see all these images I feel so sad and hard to believe life still remains there.
Look also Syria, Afhanistan..
..500000 killef - death of kids!
Excuse me Sir/Madam
Are you saved?
If you died tonight are you going to heaven?
Jesus loves you
@@gagsdoublej4254 There's no heaven no God no Jesus it's all in your imagination.
The war is raging on all fronts. The hottest point is Bakhmut, which the Russians destroyed almost completely.
That's what happens to people who serve Saxons,mark my words soon Washington will be like that 🇮🇷🇨🇳🇷🇺
Western media could easily estimate the Russians' losses in this city while they are unable or reluctant to mention Ukraine's losses on the other side!
Of course they would and that’s not a problem. You don’t harp on your own losses especially when they arnt even more than the Russians
@@Great_Lakes_Discus 😂😂😂 joke the ratio is 4:1 in russia's favour...as per YOUR OWN leaked document...now 😭 that "It was fake"
😂😂😂😂
Its pretty clear that Russian loses are higher though, from 3-5x as high as Ukraines losses. That is why Ukraine has not withdrawn, when they always could have. They see a good chance to severely bleed the Russian army, that is frontally attacking a heavily fortified position, sited on good defensive ground.
@@priyanshukumar7342 So no more conspiracy theory about these leaked documents ? No more about the West trying to lying ?
@@richard40x pretty clear based on what other than bias?
How could they "know" our enemy RU lost between 20 -30 000 soldiers but for our allied UA they dont give us any numbers of losses?
The british can estimate the russian casualties based on sources like: images from satellites, photos of russians posted on social media who died, the daily numbers given by the ukrainian army, ukrainian videos with battles on Telegram, the russian weaponry destroyed for which the visual evidence exists; the british don't track the ukrainian casualties.
Ask CNN
Not to difficult to COUNT bodies for anyone but Mia Mia who has to use all fingers and toes!
Always remember why they killed a million Iraqis. They always lie
@@khiem1939 you still havent replied to her question, guess you need to use brain (too bad you dont have one)
Amazing an area 16 square miles can with stand all those months of battles. Not to mention what came before.
Underground tunnels and all is clear....And Russian losses are not high as liars from MI6 says...Wishful thinking. Unfortunately Ukraine losses are huge due to 15 to 1 artillery's favor on Russian side...Aviation armor ,tanks....This fairytales on western media will be debunked when real Ukrainian casualties are announced on end of this war.
How many people died in those acres?
Many people died for nothing. *well maybe not exactly nothing, they died for private corporate interests.
@@danielhutchinson6604 thousands of Russians
@@nolkerss Your calculations are apparently in need of recalculating?
You need to use a proportional accounting system.
The ration of the distance from Wall Street to the Donbas,
and the distance from Moscow to that area,
then figure the difference out?
Ukraine Draftees are not fighting as hard as Russian Volunteers.
Like Nam, the Wall Street Draftees just do not have their hearts in this fight.
Bakhmut is a city of great significance
Because if russian troops get all over this place they can reach Kramatorsk agglomeration with their artillery - the main fortified area of Ukrainian Eastern army. And some other places.
If this happen then Ukrainian offensive will be very problematic.
That's why commander-in-chief Valerii Zaluzhnyi came into conflict with Zelenski in February this year to not retreat from this place.
Later it was made look for the public as if it was Zelensky who decided to not leave Bakhmut.
The number of Troops Kyiv has sent to reinforce Bachmut is an indication of the weakness of the forces in Kyiv's section.....
The movement of Troops from near the Polish Border to Bachmut, appears to indicate the fragile status of Kyiv, in the presentation of the conflict?
The ability to defend Borders in three directions seems to extend Kyiv's Forces over a lot of area and the ability to support the continued effort to fight against Russian Artillery, appears to be more than Backhoes can overcome?
As in Avdivka, where the Rail connection has been exposed to Russian Troops front line, and their Artillery, the ability to supply that City with the Ammunition that has been shooting holes in Donetsk Schools for 9 years is slowly grinding to a halt.
The ability to resist a major push from Russian offense appears to be limited and the numbers of Kyiv's Troops appears to be slowly reduced by the overpowering amount of Russian Artillery.
It is true that Tanks do exist within the fortifications that Kyiv had dug along the front line. But Tanks without Fuel that allows them to move are merely targets, or Lawn Ornaments with a cannon. They may still have a few rounds of ammunition, but without fuel they appear to be simply a metal coffin.
Russia has unplugged the Ukraine Rail Network and little fuel is left to operate Armor as the logistics system is now using the 30 locomotives that the Ukraine Railway system bought in 2018, that allow the use of fuel to support logistics, but limit the amount that is available for any offensive move by Kyiv since November.
Logistics were a problem for Hitler as well when he decided to appropriate Caspian Oil to operate his efforts to dominate the World. Hitler learned a harsh lesson when he attempted to overcome Russia.
The US apparently is now facing a very difficult lesson to understand as once again Russia displays what they learned from the last few times the Western Empires attempted to invade Russia.
Naroleon left most of his Grand Army of the Republic scattered along the road back to France, clutching their Booty to their frozen Bodies.
The Britisn buried a Half Milion in Balaclava, to allow them to maintain control of their India Colony.
Wall Street is now witness to what happens to the Greedy when they attempt to overcome Russia.
The propaganda battles rage on but the facts prove that you need more than lies to win a war.....
@@danielhutchinson6604 "The US apparently is now facing a very difficult lesson to understand as once again Russia displays what they learned from the last few times the Western Empires attempted to invade Russia." Actually, it's the other way around.
Russia is learning the hard way how difficult it is for them to invade Ukraine (which bore much of the brunt of previous invasions against Russia, by the way). In reality, it's Russia's logistics that are having serious issues. Ukraine's logistics have held up better. Ukraine isn't invading Russia; Russia is invading Ukraine and that is why Russia is struggling. All of this has been known since day one of the "special military operation" and it has only become more obvious over the course of more than a year. They've lost more than *half* the territory they stole from Ukraine in the first few months; Putin is clearly loosing.
@@danielhutchinson6604 The true, common denominator when considering invasion military forces, and homeland defending military forces is that those who are defending their homeland have a natural advantage, most every time.
In this war, it is Mr Putin's Russian Federation that are the invading military force, and citing historical battlegrounds that Russia soundly defeated foreign military invasions is a contradictory statement, because at this moment, it is Russia that is on the opposite side of being invaded. They are the invaders.
Much of Russia's previous success at defending against foreign invasion military forces was within Ukraine. Russia has no morale, societal, or national defence advantage here... That is all Ukraine. And even if Ukraine has to fight with rocks, shovels, pitchforks, etc... they are fighting to defend their very existence as a sovereign nation, and society. That is a definite advantage that Mr Putin's military is devoid of, and will not have any measure of during this war.
The whole war has no strategic value to ruzzia.
The west is awake now and arming itself.
Everyday Ruzzia gets weaker and more ridiculous.
@@danielhutchinson6604 Thank you for your revisionist History lesson.
However you did miss out the Holodomor, the Artic Convoys, etc.
"Ukrainian soldiers still fighting for the city say they are wearing down Russian assault forces."
I love how these sentences are phrased to sound like Ukrainians are just chilling there, killing one Russian after another inbetween coffee breaks.
Give us a break.
If Russia has suffered 20 -30000 casualties in the battle of Bakhmut, then how many casualties has Ukrainian army suffered?
Only one or two ukraining soldiers dead in bakhmut, this is how western media publishing. 😂😂😂😂
1000000
@@ILoveSriLanka Why do you think it is apt to use laughing emojis considering the subject? Do you find a lot of dead people funny?
Given the ratio has usually been 3 Russians lost for every Ukrainian, it's probably around 10,000 - 20,000 Ukrainians killed or wounded (For the sake of a conservative estimate, I changed the ration from 3:1 to 2:1)
@@Diggnuts he is not laughing at dead people’s, he was laughing how western media and political are lying 🤥
Pray for peace and all innocent lives.
During the 8 years as well, or just during the last year?
@@canadianoctopus1479 Since 2014 and during the globalist backed coup.
"All" innocent lives.
@@canadianoctopus1479 yes, since 2014 when Russia occupied Crimea and sent thugs and mercs to Donbass who started the war
@@canadianoctopus1479 boom
@@johngalt5953 Thugs? You mean the N*zis that were sent to Ukraine to shell Donbas?
Biden: Hey, Zelenskyy, how far are you guys from kiev now? I'm gonna send another hollywood actor soon.
Notice how Russian casualties are giving and not the Ukrainian casualties. Where do the number of Russian casualties come from. Not the Russians. Need more objectivity
You think you can find objectivity from Russian state media? Sure pal
@@Hans.Dewitt Well apparently Ukraine media not giving out #'s isn't exactly objective when they publish Russian numbers only. Makes you think they're hiding something from their people - the US has taught them well.
@@Hans.Dewitt I expect objectivity from the WSJ
@@DP-rr9kp would you also expect the objectiveness from wsj regarding the battles between us forces and german ones during the ww2? The whole world has the target now to defeat russia, including the us government and media
@@SayMyName2674 objectivity is essential when it comes to information. Bias reports are worthless and in fact, contribute to the spread of misinformation around the world. Disinformation is a terrible decease that affects the whole world. All governments engaged in misinformation. It is a form of control over the population that only benefits the controlling power elite that rules the world, “double speak “. The people deserve the truth, but deserving has nothing to do with it. It is all about control and the media is controlled by those who have the power. Divide and conquer.
We can all agree on one thing we are living in the making of future history books
The powers that be will just rewrite history to their liking
That can be said war or no war. 😆
We? Your posting this from the battlefield?
Are these the same military experts that say Russia is running out of missiles? 😂
Same geniuses that told you Iraq has WMDs
Seems Russia has been struggling to take Bakhmut since last summer. Might as well be out of missiles.
The same ones that tell us Russia is fighting with shovels
The Russians will never leave Eastern Ukraine or Crimea...
I love how he didnt even say what the estimates for ukr losses are just said theyre classified but then used the most insanely high number of russian dead that government agencies offer no method of arriving at
Casualty means dead and wounded, and there’s often a lot more wounded than dead.
The senselessness of this war is beyond measure.
True, but NOBODY ever ACCUSED the Mongol midget Dictator, Vlad Putin of being TOO intelligent!
Sure is, Ukraine should have signed the Minsk agreements and not shelled civilians for 8 years. Russia didn't even start the war, the war started in 2014.
@@canadianoctopus1479 Ukraine never shelled civilians, Ivan, leave that cheap low grade propaganda to the mentally puny.
@@canadianoctopus1479 Russia started the war in 2014.
@@johngalt5953 Actually the coup started it...
Ukraine is losing the war.. in last 3 days Russian forces have made significant gain in bhakhmut centeral region..Next is Avdivka.. Anything that Ukraine does is so dependent on Western Supply.
This Supply will reduce in future, where Russia makes their own decisions.
"... Russians are just pausing, hoping to resupply... and go at it again with one final push."
That just happened... This dude is good at predicting.
@Denny wintermo
With shovels, and looks like it worked
Get a life over a year no progress all those Russian terorist dying daily
@@beaconing7689 that's to dig their graves
Ukrainian soldiers are successfully holding the occupiers at bay every day. The military can reclaim its territories with a significant amount of arms. Our goal is to cooperate with each other to assist Ukraine in freeing its lands.
@@danieldach4697 LOL nice try bot. The Wagner flags are rised in the Administrative Buildings.
Waves of soldiers! With showels!
If we fail to finish what we started now, the war may escalate in the future. Peace talks will be fruitless. Putin must be stopped as soon as possible to prevent an increase in the death toll. The only way to achieve this is through a complete victory for Ukraine and a return to the 1991 borders.
Waving red flags running towards the machine gun fire
Soldiers with shovels are beating NATO and Ukraine? 😂
hmmmmm is that a WH40K Reference?
Nice explanation
Zelenskey doesnt deserve to be representative of Great Ukrianian people because he is not only kid but also he is guy
Well done thank you
Ukraine has lost at least 5 6 times more soldiers in backmout
Nah, Ukraines K/D ratio is way higher than russias
@@maxmustermann-cy9znaccording to US estimates Russian losses are at 300,000 dead and wounded and Ukraine losses 200,000 dead and wounded
@@maxmustermann-cy9znthat’s a 1.5 kd ratio. Not really way high especially when Russia is notable for using cannon fodder troops such as storm Z and Wagner convicts and Russia has been on the offensive most of the war besieging cities where Ukraine has yet to do that yet.
In bakmhut Russian losses were 3x higher than Ukraine but that was because bakmhut was exclusively fought by Wagner convicts and Ukraine would use regular and other highly trained soldiers.
@@joeswanson5486 you are day dreaming friend. Ukraine lost 8 9 men for each Russian soldier , life expectancy for a new Ukraine soldier there was 4 hours. Bench the meat grinder name given by Russian general.
MSM spent almost a year telling us that Bakhmut was absolutely critical. Then, when it became apparent that Russia was going to take it, all of a sudden it's a symbolic victory only and of little significance. MSM reporting on this conflict is nothing short of pathetic.
The retention of Bakhmut was important because its capture creates a gap in the ring of fortress cities. After Bakhmut, the neighboring cities of Seversk and Chas Yar will inevitably be taken. But if something can't be held, it's better to give it away. One glance at the map is enough to understand that it is pointless to hold Bakhmut. But Bakhmut holds on. The West tells Zelensky what he will do. Zelensky performs. The West needs Bakhmut to stand, as his fall will cause a negative reaction from the Western population. Wagner uses it. By creating conditions in which you will be able to defend the city, only suffering huge losses. Which is what happened. Three or four more Bakhmuts, and in Ukraine, banal, there will be no soldiers to fight. Articles in the Western media are more important than this Ukraine itself. It will collapse, creating positive informational reasons.
Not one word about the underground city below Bakhmut. If Russia didn't take all of the cities, above and below ground, the Russians would always be vunerable to attack from behind their front lines... There is also there are the Soledar and Bakhmut mines stretching out 80 miles and nearly 1,000 feet deep in places... Russia had to take all of that, not an easy task for any army... but the MSM never says anything about it...
I am afraid of the underground city under Bakhmut and the mines under it. This is unknown even to the residents of Bakhmut.....
jokes on them when russia just welds steel on all major exits/pours tons of concrete down them and seals the ukrainians in.
Realistically, neither will happen or has happened. This isn't a video game. They aren't going to trojan horse from fkn mines and if somehow that ridiculous notion is a viable strategy, Russia has already thought of that and will take countermeasures to seal up or flood, if possible, every important entry/exit.
Well now they do since Ukraine is on offensive
Zelensky: We need More & More Money (M&MM) to push the Russians out! 😀😆😂
Why are Ukraine's losses "CLASSIFIED" and Russia's published --BY BRITISH INTELLIGENCE??
Why are you asking such stupid questions?
If the russian take Bakhmut and it's surroundings, then they can hit Kramatorsk and Slaviansk with the artillery, these are too big cities to accept their destruction and the evacuation of civilians. So, the ukrainians must defend Bakhmut. It doesn't make sense that Kramatorsk and Slaviansk to become the new Bakhmut.
Shame YOU are FORGETTING that Russia and their dwindling forces will be more concerned with the Ukraine's Spring Offensive and their loss of the Crimea to WORRY about little Bakhmut!
Bakhmut is taken. Everybody, relax.
it's time for the US to send in the fighter jets to help Ukraine before it's too late
F that. You like nuclear war?
I am wondering what the numbers are saying, questions marks what is the numbers stop war
Thorough report WSJ, Thank you.
The crisis has reached new heights, as Russia continues to systematically destroy cities. The southeastern part of Ukraine is now a desolate landscape, with millions of Ukrainian civilians trapped in the area. The towns of Soledar, Bakhmut, Ugledar, and other regions are perpetually on edge.
that means Rusia is winning
Those civilians were told well in advance to leave, they are not "trapped"... they decided to stay.
@Andres Vargas No, Russia is losing. Its offensive at the beginning of the war has been stopped, and in the northern areas repelled completely.
Russia has lost most of its modern tanks, and is now forced to rely older models. Most of the Russian military might, not counting its navy and nuclear warheads, has either been lost or heavily damaged to the point where it can not be repaired enough to use it again.
Russia has sustained HEAVY CASUALTIES. Even more than Ukraine. Unless you count civilians. Russia has been DELIBERATELY targeting civilians, which is a war crime. Vladimir Putin, LITERALLY, has an arrest warrant from the United Nations.
There is NO WAY that Russia is going to successfully conquer Ukraine. Even if it did. Vladimir Putin has made the Russian Federation a pariah country, that the majority of the world sees as a rogue nation. Its reputation has been ruined for the next few or more decades, and its economy is being crippled by extreme sanctions.
If you think this invasion is somehow good for Russia or the rest of the world (minus Ukraine, of course) PLEASE, TELL ME HOW.
@Prozak Saying that civilians could have left BEFORE, does not mean that they are not trapped NOW.
@@Matthew-Anthony stay coped
As colonel Douglas McGregor said on his UA-cam channel the life expectancy of a Ukrainian soldier in bakmut is about 4 hours.
Hearing UK intelligence estimate,all i Can is enough...
Give Russia Crimea and Donbas and call it a draw. End war now.
Demilitarisation of AFU and NATO now, denazification of Ukrainian society.
Id make you mine so quick
ah yes, the best solution! Could have avoided WW2 if we gave Germany all of mainland Europe an gave Japan all of China and Vietnam. Makes sense. Great idea!
Russia is not going to stop on its own history is full of examples, we will force them to stop 😐
@@kentonbenoit9629they will stop lol you think they want war with NATO?
An entire generation of Ukrainian men wiped out. That will be hard to recover from.
Jews take arabs from africa
Give citizenship to 1-2 million somalis
@@neepsaikia8837 and yemen
They will all be wounded or living in America, Germany, or UK. The place will be run by Greeks and Syrians in a decade as a sort ofneutral Switzerland. The best possible outcome
How many russians are being conscripted again? Even right now?
What is worth protecting is worth taking.
@GAIRIK GHOSH People can and will protect family heirlooms that have no monetary value. That is not worth taking.
Can't believe anything nowadays
All this is really stupid. Stop fighting and go home already. I am sure everyone wants to unionize with their family!
Zolenzky needs to acknowledge the inevitable and surrender, for the good of his people and the world.
Why journalist think they can explain everything?
One sided reporting. Estimating casualties on the Russian side but not the Ukrainian side. Ukraine is not fighting the full strength of the Russian army and are losing badly so a counter offensive makes no sense.
why do they still defend bakhmut?
it is a road to perdition..bakhmut disappears in the darkness.
The sad thing about this war is, soldiers are being used as if its a game that will re spawn
That’s war. Especially Russian strategy.
In every significant war, they’ve relied on attrition by numbers
that's all wars, no?
@@Monosaccaride the peace resolution that china was proposing could hsve helped
@@vicmwaf well the Ukrainians hated it so
Might 're spawn' after China takes over Russia and REPOPULATES that aging and dying nation!
Why would I believe UK in this matter?
Better than believing Putler in any matter 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mersifullwolf4054 Put-in busy making Zelensky the wimp'humble..
when they need to forcefully make you believe. it was the british government that Bush later used to convince the senate about iraq that they found inteligence of uranium from Nigeer.
Dreaming only…
May be...MAY BE.....???
Bakhmut is a pivotal city in this whole war. Media should set aside wishful thinking.
When the Ukraine's Spring Offensive starts, YOU will HEAR nothing more about Bakhmut!
Nothing strategic about Bakhmut when the major UKR lines of defence lie on higher ground to the west. It' importance is to drain away the RF and PMC forces through high attrition and create a battle ground vacuum whereupon the UKR could drive through a counter offensive spearhead. But the most pivotal UKR city in the whole of the war will be Melitopol which would not only close the RF logiistic lines north, south and east but open up a two-prong attack , one south to the Crimea and the other east to Mariupol. There is a likelihood that a clever counter encirclement by UKR of the RF and PMC north and south salients at Bakhmut could occur but the lack of effective close air support (such as A-10) inhibits this tactical manoeuvre.
@@khiem1939 why do you say that?
@@khiem1939 Haven't you heard that the counter offensive will be pushed back
We pray for the victory of ukraine❤🇺🇦
Ukraine is winning!! Slava Ukraini my foot.😂
Ukrain won another battle by losing Bakhmut
Indians are experts at Warfare, they have NEVER won any wars!
Alright, enough with Bakhmut stall. Move it. Go advance.
Regardless of the military significance or lack of military significance, Bakhmut will soon fall to the Russians. In the last week, Wagner and other Russian forces have almost taken all of Central Bakhmut. Western Bakhmut is all that is left. The remaining Western Bakhmut areas come under concentrated Russian attack within the next week.
There can no longer be any orderly Ukrainian retreat from Bakhmut since the Russians have fire control over all the roads leading into/out of Bakhmut.
Since last night technically it's not called Bakhmut anymore. It's called Artyomovsk.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Technically moskva has been renamed Jackanory .
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
More like Wagnergrad
Wankergrad crunches with the bones of 30,000 Russians.
It's called Rubble.
@@tonupharry Keep crying.
It’s over..bakhmut is kaput
Russia has taken 17 - 20% of Ukraine, how is that failed operation? They tried to overthrow the government with 100k soldiers in the north against 3 - 4 million UA conscripts and soldiers. They could not pull through such numbers so they made a tactical retreat and gained over 17 - 20% of Ukraine.
That 20% does not buy Russia much, if they are in and endless war with the other 80% of Ukraine.
⚪the last fortification ahead, Sloviansk and Kramatorsk💥⚖️💥
Life is expensive for cheap people and life is cheap for expensive people Being a precious person welcomes death 🇪🇬🇷🇺❤
Well Ukrainians you made the wrong choice. But the EU politicians who supplied Kiev with military hardware knowing full well that it would only prolong the war should be brought to court. And of course Zelinski
where are you from, clown?
If the maps are any indication it looks like Wagner is pushing hard and taking ground this last week. I hate to say it but I think they'll have it by the end of the week.
@@VeritasOmniaVincit176 Russia did not say that, the media say this alot, but know Wagner say they got it.
here is the end of the week, and there is wagner? oh yes..undergound
Calmly. It's been two days! The situation has changed for the worse for Wagner!
It’s another month when they “will have it by the end of the week”, you know
@@user-hw4ix7ws2b The Wangers have essentially captured the Center of Bakhmut in the last 24 hours and just captured the statue of a plane in Western Bakhmut.
Awesome
these "military analyst" is just a title with no substance
Russian tanks are out of oil and Putin died last year. What r u talking about?
What reality are you in?😂🤣😂🤣
@@mersifullwolf4054 BBC, CNN, SUN etc.
@@guzakaro none of them said Putler died🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@guzakaro they said the Russian tanks heading to Kiev ran out of oil 🙄
@@mersifullwolf4054 actually they sad that Putin is 'dead man walking'.
When people calls it the Meat Grinder of Ukraine War, I would also refer this battle to the Battle of Hürtgen Forest during WWII where both sides didn't win or lose any ground very much and also both endured heavy casualties, granted in Hürtgen Forest both couldn't bring their armored vehicles into bear to the battlefield and the US couldn't bring their air power into bear because of the heavily wooden area of operation. I might also add either Khe Sanh Battle from 1968 Vietnam.
Việt Nam 🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳Hồ Chí Minh muôn năm!!
Bakhmut was captured last night. WSJ is out of touch with reality.
@Social Libertarian Dont' worry, Ernest is out of touch with reality.
"symbolic"
An pincer of move of artillery seems very likely? It’s almost already encircled
some say the russians are waiting for the Ukr soldiers to be pored in the gap so they can encircle.
another massive loss for Biden
As if robo unlikely to be killed by enemies 30K?
Clear ... fast clear ...
Please negotiate
Instead of sending tanks, please send peace between both countries. With love from Nigeria.
We all know that Africa supports Russia for economic reasons, so your 'neutral' stance is a joke
But people like the war!!!
@@the_notorious_bas If it makes you feel better, I have a Nigerian friend who's very pro-American -and the nicest person I have ever met, politics aside. Also, Russia can't even support itself economically anymore, so no one's going to be supporting Russia for economic reasons much longer.
@@jeffbenton6183 No, being from Europe myself, I'm not a fan either of the US. True, Russia is becoming weaker, but they're still large in oil, gas, grain and metals/minerals which makes them a serious trade partner to countries like China, India and the Africa (food!) as a continent.
this is the exact kind of news you would have seen on state tv in germany in 1944-45...
Well said.
Unfortunately, the news in US and USSR were the same thing as in Germany, all propaganda
fascist Russia is going to lose just like fascist Germany
@Social_Libertarian i could make an example in almost any direction you want at this point, but the big one is that even western officials at the highest levels have admitted that the overwhelming bulk of casualties are coming from artillery sources, and that ukraine is now down to about 10% of the fire that russia projects everyday but still we keep hearing about how the russians are taking hundreds of thousands of casualties and are about to run out of ammo themselves and collapse?
its downright juvenile at this point...
@@operator9858 Nothing juvenile. Your attempt to deny the reality is juvenile. And the reality is that Russia has ALWAYS fought the wars this way: they don't care about casualties. If you don't get it, you should not even try debating about it.
We should kick Russia out of the UN or not let them be in the UN anymore.
un? oh no! not that! lol
Russia even allows dog fighting as in: two cute little dogs or two cool looking dogs fight each other to the death.”
United Nitwits is worthless..😮
It's like Stalingrad all over again
Media lies
Full support for Russia from Serbia! 🇷🇸❤️🇷🇺💪
how can u support russia when they bombed Belgrade in ww3 u fascist putin will win slava russia
Serbia still butthurt over losing Kosovo. Should have not gone for that genocide then, should you?
genocide makers support another genocide, who doubted
why do you support Russia?
They are tying the Ruzzian at Bakhmut and will launch a suprise counter attack at the south. Same formula they previously used on first counter offensive
😂😂😂😂😂 80 k ukr vs prisoners
Who is going to participate in the Offensive, after 140,000 casualties among Kyiv's Troops?
Where will they get fuel for Tanks?
How large will the graveyard be?
Это тебе пропаганда сказала?)
@@danielhutchinson6604 if its 140000 casualties for UKR, then its 420000 casualties for RUS?
Western source say the Russia are low of ammos & tanks since Summer of 2022.
idgaf bout Ukraine or Russia but war aint good coming from a soldier my self
Funny... the Americans know the number of Russian casualties, but they never say the number of Ukrainian casualties. Indeed, Americans are not serious people: "We lie, we cheat, we steal!" - Mike Pompeo, former CIA director (youtube)
Truth.
if Ukrainian videos stopped coming than it means retreat
ONLY Indians RETREAT, especially when the People's Liberation Army attacks them with 2 x 4 boards with nails in them and kills a score of India's "finest" peacocks!
WSJ analysis is Paralysis
Y is the wagner flag englash?
Attrition is strategic: pugnacious pride goeth before Wagnerian and Orcine fall.
And they thought Shakespeare was dead
And that pride created the war over 30 years. The West lied to Ukraine like UK and France lied to Poland in 1937-1939. Ukraine acted with arrogance, recklessness and pride for 30 years, joined NATO as a partner status, and worked to make Ukraine a NATO outpost. That's because the USA and Europe lied to Ukraine and said the West would destroy Russia for Ukraine. The West lies. As always.
if sb still uses UK Intel as source you know about the quality of reporting.
Exactly
Uk statements have been correct all along.
Firstly they said Putin had gone full tonto.
Then they said Ukraine would fight.
Then they said this war will drag on for a long time .
Constantly they have said Ruzzia is in deep trouble .
Those Russian shovels are sure doing a great job of killing Ukes
For the future would love one on how France took its Eastern colonies of Vietnam etc. Have never seen that covered and always interested myself
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How many times has Prigozhin announced that he has taken over the bahmut? I can't even count
Same, been reading about it for many months already. Let them try again, I guess Ukraine will "solve" the problem of russian crime statistics by eliminating every single prisoner they're sending to Ukraine with Wagner. In any case, we need to work together if we want this nightmare to end finally. Providing more support to Ukrainian army is the right way to go.
@@andersonlangosh6386 I absolutely agree with you
that is not really important - as long as the front line stays there cause the hinterland is safe and protected and not destroyed like this city.
That is the big difference between the world wars while the first was a fight along a small frontline (at least in the west, while in the east it was still a moving frontline and war theater till the end in 1917) the second world war destroyed a far bigger area and even whole countries that afterwards looked like Bakhmut now, a whole country with its dozens of million population not a single city of 70.000
This is a war and we all know that war look like this as we had seen in iraq or vietnam before with all the Napalm & agent orange.
It is not a negotiation along a long table, it is the fight to survive at the lowest level: only the stronger will survive
Russia is the STRONGER, the Ukraine is the SMARTER....the smarter will SURVIVE!
bakhmut has greater future
dnt ask it is classified
Why is Bakhmut important: Bakhmut is a fortress city, a fortress that was built from 2014 to 2022. Bakhmut is what the Russians called “ the meat grinder” . In their war of attrition, Russia’s goal is not to gain territory but to destroy the Ukrainian forces. As long as Zelensky keeps sending troops, the Russians are only to happy to fight them there, in the “ meat grinder “. The holding of Bakhmut at this point by Ukrainians, is a mistake that plays into the Russians and sacrifices unnecessary Ukrainian lives.
vojna izčrpavanja
The problem of pulling back is that it opens the way to the ukranian last holdings in kramatorks and sloviansk line, which is a worse defense position than bakhmut. If the ukr forces got repelled from there too, then it will be a political blow to the leadership, as well as to the public morale since rus managed to claim the whole of donbas. Not to mention this opens the way for further offensives in zaporozhye, kherson, or even kharkov since their objective in donbas is achieved.
@@far_centrist agree
Russians are dying. In next months Ukraine starts offensive when russians will be out of human power
How are the Tigers doing? Or Leopards. Or Pussycats, I always forget the name...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🔥 burning
You'll see more Russian turret toss soon enough.
@@hb9145 In your cannabis induced dreams?
@@naijaman6639 Dry soil, and the big cats will start moving. Last time it was Kherson and a Russian rout from Izyum.
@@hb9145 You are living in the past. Smell the coffee, mate. Your side is losing. Sorry.
See to peace for right
it makes you larf when you realize they are getting killed just so they can win some bombed buildings!
hahahahahaha
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Who care western media propaganda 😂😂😂😂
Sane civilized people unlike you do.
Then why are you here? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mersifullwolf4054
We are here enjoying you making a fool of yourself.
Bch ended up blind
And mut so deaf
How are they wearing down Russian forces when the Russian flag is now flying in the city centre of Bhakmut,it’s hard supporting a losing horse
So many Russian bots in the chats ...
it aint like the old days when everyone went blindly along with whatever bogus war we were pushing is it?
@@operator9858 Not really, Russians are blindly following Putins war. It really is like the old days.
Probably because more people are realizing they're being lied to about what's really going on.
Welcome bot!
To the new Russia in ukraine.
Only rubles please..
@@2girls1shovel you know the russian propaganda might be false too right?
This war has to end Russia , as a nation , as a people and as an ethnic group
You can only dream of that Saxon 🇮🇷🇷🇺🇨🇳
It's that kind of stupidity that started this whole thing back in 2014.
А потом ты проснулся
The Russians are well aware of this Western attitude towards them. That is exactly why they will fight to completely destroy the USA. The bear will launch soon after it takes and secures the Donbas.
This is bahkmut in the summer this is it now. 🙄
It's not the Ukraine War, it's Russia's War on Ukraine