I need to talk about a massive detail in the Acolyte Episode 6 which could change literally everything we know about the show. That and more on today's video!
Im glad shes here cause i read books from High Republic, tho only first fase. Dont know how she was developed but her character seemed to be very good Jedi so if she somehow changes that would be interesting.
The writers definitely want us to think it was Vernestra's light whip that gave Qimir that scar; especially since Qimir implies that he is way older than he looks (as is Vernestra). Of course, that does not mean Vernestra is secretly a Sith, in fact, she may have tried to kill Qimir (presumably her padawan) when she realized he turned to the dark side. Though, it could be a misdirect and the scar could actually be from some Sith lightning. In any case, The Acolyte is shaping up to be a much more interesting series than most people would like to openly admit.
Great points. It's either the whip or a misdirect. We've had plenty examples of both in this series. Clues and misdirects. To your final point. I agree. I go into every Star Wars show hoping for the best and watch them glass half full. I halve been let down a couple of times but I am mostly enjoying the direction Disney has taken. Star Wars is a complicated franchise and everybody has an opinion of how it should be. I totally agree though, this show is probably being enjoyed by many a fan who openly pretend to hate it. A lot of UA-camrs can no longer enjoy Star Wars openly because they have monetized their hatred and if they actually openly enjoy something they will lose followers and more importantly, they will lose money. It's a sad reality. I'm 52 years old OG Star Wars fan 5 years old when Han shot Greedo first in 1977, the spring/summer before I entered kindergarten with an R2D2 dangling on a gold necklace I wore first day of school. My opinion of The Acolyte? This shit is fucking dope. It's mature and nasty and complicated. I fell like Leslye Headland took a PG-13 Star Wars show and told Rated-R Game of Thrones to "hold her beer".
It’s mystery may be interesting and fight choreograph well but the pacing is the worst. 30 minutes episodes of nothing in between good moment. Should’ve been an hour or hour and a half an episode
I’m not afraid to admit I am very interested to see where this show goes and what they reveal about Qimir, I find him intriguing in the same way how I found the portrayal of the Empire in Andor so fascinating… it’s like getting a glimpse of the dark side of the moon.
@@TheAsheron Nah. I grew up in the 70s. Have you ever watched The Good, The Bad and The Ugly spaghetti western by Sergio Leone starring Clint Eastwood? It's literally the slowest burn you might ever witness in a movie but when the shit hits the fan a couple hours in you witness something that only cinema is capable of expressing. Arguably the best movie of all time. It's a slog. Said nobody ever. The "nothing in between" is the way you build energy to get to the payoff. The payoff does NOT exist without a slow build. Maybe you don't like to fuck, you just like having an orgasms. I like to fuck.
Pretty sure those are Force Lightning scars. The whip being in the same episode might be a way to throw people off. I doubt he has any involvement with Vernestra
@@Peterski apparently not cuz there are still people, including massive youtubers, who believe Mae started the fire that burned down the witch coven 🫠.
I actually think the scar is from a lightwhip. Vernestra is portrayed as very clunky - it would make sense if she has dark force connections. She is portrayed as quite corrupted, so it will not surprise me at all if she is a Sith. I have suspected her from episode 1.
Ok so it ends with Sol being killed by his former apprentice who pulls a Rey and falls in love with and joins darth wick….then darth wick kills the jolly green jedi….roll credits.
0:17 I don't think so. I've seen whipping scars that look almost nothing like one. Especially since if we're assuming it was the light whip, then it should like a mix between a burn scar and a whip scar. But it doesn't. Besides, unlike a rigid saber where you can control how far the blade cuts into someone, you don't have that control with a whip. Especially a laser whip that can cut through almost anything. Why wouldn't it just have sliced through his back? Unlike a normal whip, which would be somewhat cushioned by the skin it's hitting, the light whip would just cut right through it.
You’re exactly right, unless of course the whip simply grazed the skin. Assuming Vernestra did attempt to kill Qimir after he turned to the dark, there is no way you miss a killing blow as simple as that with a lightsaber whip. I don’t think it was caused by a whip either
@ppppppppp64 Yeah, even if it had just grazed him (which honestly would have taken a lot of effort and conteol given the nature of the weapon), it still doesn't look like a 3rd degree burn scar. It looks more like a cut. And given all the interviews I've seen with Lesley I have reason to believe he was literally stabbed in the back, along with metaphorically.
Direct or not, Vernestra could be tied to Qimir's past. I'm already suspicious of her because of how heavily she's involved in this cover-up, but we could see the truth before the season ends, if the writers can do it right.
I feel like a getting lashed with a laserwhip would just cut him in half… but even if it didn’t, aren’t whip lashing scars generally straight? as per _Roots_ and _The Passion_ ?
I think it's definitely the case just for the fact that when she used the saber on the bug the tip split into 2 ends just like the pattern on his back dunno how he survived it tho because a lot of force it generated at the tip of a whip you would think it would tear right through him not just leave a scar like a normal whip.
Light sabers in legends typically had a way to lower the intensity of the beam for training purposes, however they could still leave severe burns and scars if misused.
@@fibs6267 Maybe suggested was a smidgen too strong a word choice, but he immediately dismissed the idea, so, yeah, I fundamentally stand by what I wrote.
@@fibs6267 You apparently care enough to respond to the response to your comment. And care enough to mention that it somehow destroys her character arc from the books.
All that was lacking there were big red arrows pointing at the scar and then at the whip. Seee? SEEEEE? A CONNECTION!!!!! IT'S A SETUP! WAIT AND SEE! These writers have no subtlety at all.
Tenebrous. Tenebrous dies in 67 BBY (Legends obviously) and Plagueis becomes the Sith Master. In legends Plagueis is also either very young or not even born yet by 132 BBY.
I think she was an Dark Side user in the past, that redeemed herself and became a Jedi, or Qimir was her padawan that she tried to strike down once she realized he had fallen Or it's just force lightning marks from Tenebrous
Also don't you see in Ep2 Qimir called out Sol on using "memory wipe or whatever", in Ep5 Mae called out Osha on being "brainwashed by Jedi" and Ep6 ends with Sol looking like he's about to brainwash Mae? Didn't George Lucas said Star Wars is heavily inspired by Kurosawa's movies? Didn't Lesley Headland said The Acolyte is heavily inspired by Kurosawa's film Rashomon? Didn't Rian Johnson said The Last Jedi is inspired by Kurosawa's film Rashomon too? Don't you know what Rashomon effect is? It's only us audience understanding what really happened by learning points of views from various witnesses, each giving new puzzles and contradicting each other. The Last Jedi gave us Luke's first POV (that is entirely a lie and people still believe it's truth...), then Kylo's POV (truth but from his perspective) and then Luke's second POV (truth but from his perspective). In The Acolyte what we learned in Ep3 is a entirely lie made up by Sol. What we will learn in Ep7 is the truth but from Sol perspective and the truth but from Qimir perspective. It's our task to know what is real and what's not between Sol and Qimir POVs. Just to remind you, Kurosawa's Rashomon has 4 witnesses, so 4 half-truths. Star Wars makes it less complicated by one full lie and two half-truths. The fact that people still absorbs the first full lie like a full truth is laughable to me.
Great observation about the short blade against a whip in Star Wars canon. I don't know all the EU or anything like that but it seems like the light whip did cause the scar at this point. I didn't think it did only because the lightwhip looks like something that cuts things in half not barely touching something to scar it.
I read the novel where vernestra first appeared, she didn’t come of as evil. I think she did feel conflicted about the dark and light side while talking to another Jedi sskeer “Being a Jedi is about choosing the light over and over again”
Is Qmir's seacondary weapon really a shoto? It looks damn short, even for a shoto. I mean, it's all a matter of personal preference, it's not the way it's built but the way it's used that makes a shoto a shoto (that's why I don't understand people calling Yoda's lightsaber a shoto) so if Qmir says "Ok, I like my shoto ´to be very short but I'll use it as a shoto" then it's a shoto. Still, when I first saw it I thought more of a long lightsaber dagger.
Qimir was a Padawan, maybe a Knight even, that got too curious about the ways of the Force and the jedi cast him out, maybe he had a moment of rage, lust, envy, etc and fell shortly after, then Darth Tenebris found him and was trainning him to be his apprentice but was disappointed by something he did, maybe the incident on the lesbian witches planet, and punished him. My ideia is that he revealed himself to the jedi, putting in risk around 900 years of Rule of Two planning, so Tenebris learned of even taught the witches to create life from the force, a feat he to some degree performed later to create Darth Plagueis. In short, Qimir is trying to train an acolyte in order to prove himself to Tenebris, and then defeat and take his place as Dark Lord of the Sith, making his acolyte rise into an apprentice and keeping the Rule of Two cycle going.
Interesting theory, I think people are putting too much thought into it though. She uses it in the books and it’s cool so they included it in the TV series.
Agreed. I’m certain they will because of his lightsaber. A normal length blade and a shoto, same mix Luke used in the original comics to defeat a light whip user.
@@Rouges_Reactions this ain't yo mama's legends no more son. And with how much she is about covering up dark side users existing, I think it could be something like this. Maybe he was a padawan along side her while she was hiding the fact she created some dark influenced weapon.
@@M32Mirach Could be or he could of been another jedi's padawan. But while being so. formed a close bond with venestra. Maybe something happened to his master. blaming it on her he could of lashed out on venestra causing her too hit him with her lightwhip
@@Rouges_Reactions I mean she had to defend her lightwhip modifications she made to her padawan based on his knowledge of forbidden forms. And most of the notable users being sith and not jedi seems to mean the light side tended to view it as an undesirable, inelegant weapon.
I feel like the shoto being a counter to a lightwhip is a bit of a stretch, I don't even see how it could feasibly be used to counter it - surely a longer blade would be more effective at wrapping up its dangerous tendrils without causing damage to one's own arms? Idk, I guess we'll see.
Qimir is a Sith pretender, he’s really just a fallen Jedi who feels betrayed by his former master who I think is probably Venestra. This show is all about the Jedi being flawed. I think if real Sith show up in the end, they won’t have much of a connection with Qimir or he will summon them for the first time.
Meh. Subtle foreboding is not a thing for these writers... Set up and payoffs are so transparent it's almost painful. Yes, the scar is from Venerstra or whatever the name of that plank of wood is. What likely happened, she was his Jedi master, he turned dark, she thought she had killed him but "somehow" he has returned and went on to study the sith ways on his own - which means he might be a self-taught Sith, not one of the two hiding in the galaxy at the time (assuming the writers care about the lore in this case - we know they don't give an f otherwise)... He indicated he might be older than he looks so there's that too. There's a story with a potential there, squandered with meandering secondary plots about the twins, "the mystery" and all that crap.
They will probably ahow one ofbthe coven witches as a sith with a force wip like Githany from darth bane If they say the green jedi is a sith now with two episodes to go its got bo meabing no wow factor behind it It makes more sense to introduce someone new aa this season reeks of hoping for a second season
Luke was naked in a Bacta tank (and in the deleted scenes) and we got a lot more screen-time of Jabba's palace and Leia's slave outfit than we did of the Stranger's quick bath George would have a lot to say about the show, but I'm sure the very brief nudity would be the last thing on his mind
Vernestra is a Jedi purist, and she will incriminate Sol for all the murders, and will kill the Sith wannabe,because no one must know that there are other paths to the force, not the witches, nor the sith. She is a Jedi purist, and only Jedi,and their rules, are the path to the force.
Interesting? I'd say overly obvious. This show telegraphs its plot SO HARD. Darth Sith used to be a Jedi, he was injured and cast aside by Venestra, became a Sith. I don't think Venestra is a Sith herself, I think she is just (again obviously) corrupt, because part of this show's agenda is to make the Jedi look bad, and make the Sith appear more reasonable. I think it's doing this in a really clunky ineffective way, but it is what it is.
Absolutely, there's no subtlety in the writign at all. I'm surprised they didn't say anything like "these scars... look like from a whip..." As for Venestra, I don't even think she's corrupt. She's probably doing what she thinks it's best to protect the order or whatever her noble cause that makes no sense will be. I think Jason will turn out to be self-taught in the sith way after being kicked out from the order and possibly left to die by Venestra. He has no sith master, he thinks he's the first sith in a thousand years and he's looking for a pupil.
*Manny* *Jacinto* 🇵🇭 Unpopular opinion and maybe I’m being biased because Manny Jacinto is Pinoy like me, but I think Manny comes off more MASCULINE than Hayden did in the Prequels and Adam in the Sequels. It’s very much like Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Jaime Lannister. Manny can come off charismatic, brave, and still be sexy. Not of a lot of actors have “it” when it comes to being both manly and hot. Iron Man is my all-time favorite movie character but Robert Downey Jr. can come off sounding gay because he can talk so fast. Boxing legend, Manny Pacquiao 🥊, is only 5’5. My mom is taller than him. But Manny Jacinto is about 5’11, maybe 5’10. We’re actually similar in height and weight (157-160 lbs) but I don’t have the biceps and torso as Darth Biceps himself. Same fair skin though as if we can fool for a Chinese. Manny is only an inch shorter than Hayden and about 7 years younger. My biggest problem with Hayden is his voice. It sounds whiny. It sounded better in Ahsoka but I never got that ALPHA DOG in him like Manny has shown in this series. There are very few actors who come off truly alpha. Like The Rock can be alpha scary on camera and in real life. I heard Sean Connery was very alpha. Used to be a bodybuilder. Beat up a group of guys while Michael Caine held his coat. The Acolyte’s Episode 6 might be the first time we ever see a male character sexually seduce a female character. Anakin didn’t really seduce Padmé. He gave her stalker eyes in Attack of the Clones and cringey lines written by George Lucas like….. “From the moment I met you, all those years ago, not a day has gone by when I haven't thought of you. And now that I'm with you again... I'm in agony. The closer I get to you, the worse it gets. The thought of not being with you- I can't breath. I'm haunted by the kiss that you should never have given me. My heart is beating... hoping that kiss will not become a scar. You are in my very soul, tormenting me... what can I do?- I will do anything you ask". 🤮🤢 Simp talk from a virgin boy. 😂 “From my point of view, the Jedi are evil.” followed by… “Don’t make me destroy you.” Obviously, Hayden is portraying the better and more legendary character. The Jesus Christ of Star Wars. All Manny is portraying is online nicknamed Smilo Ren. But I’m only comparing the actors’ performances and manliness. I never found Hayden to come off all that masculine. It’s like Jackie Chan trying to be masculine. Nah. Jackie has a face mostly for comedy. Even though Manny is Filipino, he can play tough Asian gangsters like Triads and Yakuza if he wanted to. He has the muscles for them too. People call him Asian Ezra Miller but I think he can come off way more masculine than him. The polar opposite of his goofy FOB character in The Good Place. He’s acting like Asian Fez from That 70s Show in The Good Place. Manny can be masculine, vulnerable, sneaky, funny, sexy, and still be creepy and dark. Think the late Brandon Lee in The Crow (1994). I never saw that same range from Hayden. Finally, two male Asian actors 🇰🇷🇵🇭 carrying Star Wars considering the Japanese samurai influence George Lucas took from Kurosawa to create Star Wars. Lee Jung-jae is the first Asian actor to be a Jedi. The first choice for Obi-Wan happened to be Toshiro Mifune from the Kurosawa films. And he was asked to be under the Vader costume as well but declined. We finally have Asian guys carrying Star Wars when Asian culture helped influenced it. Star Wars implying sex or nudity doesn’t bother me. Didn’t Andor start off in a brothel in Morlana One? Didn’t Bix and Timm hook up one night? Didn’t Cassian have a vacation hookup after he succeeded with the heist? He was ready to take a shower with some hookup laying in bed. Andor was also the first to ever say “shit” in SW. I know Star Wars is catered for 12-year-olds as George said, but it’s NOT okay to imply nudity or sex but it’s okay to watch characters getting their heads chopped off? I don’t mind Star Wars exploring more adult territory. I think Manny Jacinto is going to be a Star Wars icon 20 years from now. The Acolyte is being hated now but the same negativity was being said about the Prequels about 20 years ago and now people call Hayden and Ray Park legends. Ray Park was barely in TPM and he’s already regarded a SW legend. Will happen for Manny Jacinto in 20 years. The power of one, the power of two, the power of Manny! 💪🏻 Allen Xie should be proud of his Asian brothers carrying this show! Be proud to be Asian. We finally have Asian faces carrying Star Wars as our cultures are the root of what Star Wars would become.
TLDR but Manny Jacinto is the only interesting character in this show right now, and one of the only two good actors. The other being the Korean fella. They both give it their all despite having a super weak script to work with.
How many times did they make it a point to point out he had whip scars on his back, you know, incase you missed it the first time. Who has a whip and isnt afraid to use it? George should've never sold his property. Smh.
Idgaf what anyone says the acolyte IS NOT canon infact I'm now in the boat of I do not consider Disney star wars as star wars they are two totally different things
So Vernestra most likey isn't a random choice for the show, after all. Nice.
yeah shows good now🤣
@@overheatedeskim054lol I wish it was good
In My opinion she is supposed to represent everything wrong and twisted inside Jedi Order.
@@wojtekreliga3881 And she does a good job with that
Im glad shes here cause i read books from High Republic, tho only first fase. Dont know how she was developed but her character seemed to be very good Jedi so if she somehow changes that would be interesting.
The writers definitely want us to think it was Vernestra's light whip that gave Qimir that scar; especially since Qimir implies that he is way older than he looks (as is Vernestra).
Of course, that does not mean Vernestra is secretly a Sith, in fact, she may have tried to kill Qimir (presumably her padawan) when she realized he turned to the dark side.
Though, it could be a misdirect and the scar could actually be from some Sith lightning.
In any case, The Acolyte is shaping up to be a much more interesting series than most people would like to openly admit.
Great points. It's either the whip or a misdirect. We've had plenty examples of both in this series. Clues and misdirects.
To your final point. I agree. I go into every Star Wars show hoping for the best and watch them glass half full. I halve been let down a couple of times but I am mostly enjoying the direction Disney has taken. Star Wars is a complicated franchise and everybody has an opinion of how it should be. I totally agree though, this show is probably being enjoyed by many a fan who openly pretend to hate it. A lot of UA-camrs can no longer enjoy Star Wars openly because they have monetized their hatred and if they actually openly enjoy something they will lose followers and more importantly, they will lose money. It's a sad reality.
I'm 52 years old OG Star Wars fan 5 years old when Han shot Greedo first in 1977, the spring/summer before I entered kindergarten with an R2D2 dangling on a gold necklace I wore first day of school.
My opinion of The Acolyte? This shit is fucking dope. It's mature and nasty and complicated. I fell like Leslye Headland took a PG-13 Star Wars show and told Rated-R Game of Thrones to "hold her beer".
It’s mystery may be interesting and fight choreograph well but the pacing is the worst. 30 minutes episodes of nothing in between good moment. Should’ve been an hour or hour and a half an episode
I’m not afraid to admit I am very interested to see where this show goes and what they reveal about Qimir, I find him intriguing in the same way how I found the portrayal of the Empire in Andor so fascinating… it’s like getting a glimpse of the dark side of the moon.
@@TheAsheron Nah. I grew up in the 70s. Have you ever watched The Good, The Bad and The Ugly spaghetti western by Sergio Leone starring Clint Eastwood? It's literally the slowest burn you might ever witness in a movie but when the shit hits the fan a couple hours in you witness something that only cinema is capable of expressing. Arguably the best movie of all time. It's a slog. Said nobody ever.
The "nothing in between" is the way you build energy to get to the payoff. The payoff does NOT exist without a slow build.
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Looks like a lightning streak from force lightning
I dont think vernestra is a sith, but qimir was her apprentice, went to the dark side then probably injured him in a fight.
Pretty sure those are Force Lightning scars. The whip being in the same episode might be a way to throw people off. I doubt he has any involvement with Vernestra
Haven’t seen this theory yet. Interesting. Thanks for sharing with us. ⚡️
No. These writers are too simple for such things. So far every setup was painfully transparent, no skillful misdirection.
@@Peterski apparently not cuz there are still people, including massive youtubers, who believe Mae started the fire that burned down the witch coven 🫠.
@@PeterskiYeah that's probably why massive youtubers still believe that Qimir is a sith and that it "BrEAkS CaNoN" because he revealed himself
I actually think the scar is from a lightwhip. Vernestra is portrayed as very clunky - it would make sense if she has dark force connections. She is portrayed as quite corrupted, so it will not surprise me at all if she is a Sith. I have suspected her from episode 1.
Ok so it ends with Sol being killed by his former apprentice who pulls a Rey and falls in love with and joins darth wick….then darth wick kills the jolly green jedi….roll credits.
I feel like a Light whip could only literally cut you in half.
Remember this is Disney where lightsabers bounce off of things
No shit
0:17 I don't think so. I've seen whipping scars that look almost nothing like one. Especially since if we're assuming it was the light whip, then it should like a mix between a burn scar and a whip scar. But it doesn't. Besides, unlike a rigid saber where you can control how far the blade cuts into someone, you don't have that control with a whip. Especially a laser whip that can cut through almost anything. Why wouldn't it just have sliced through his back? Unlike a normal whip, which would be somewhat cushioned by the skin it's hitting, the light whip would just cut right through it.
Yeah, because this show's creators care about such details....
You’re exactly right, unless of course the whip simply grazed the skin. Assuming Vernestra did attempt to kill Qimir after he turned to the dark, there is no way you miss a killing blow as simple as that with a lightsaber whip. I don’t think it was caused by a whip either
@ppppppppp64 Yeah, even if it had just grazed him (which honestly would have taken a lot of effort and conteol given the nature of the weapon), it still doesn't look like a 3rd degree burn scar. It looks more like a cut. And given all the interviews I've seen with Lesley I have reason to believe he was literally stabbed in the back, along with metaphorically.
Direct or not, Vernestra could be tied to Qimir's past. I'm already suspicious of her because of how heavily she's involved in this cover-up, but we could see the truth before the season ends, if the writers can do it right.
Maybe his sith master has a light whip too.
I bet he has no sith master. He's self-taught after being kicked out from the Jedi Order, wounded and left to die by Vernestra.
@@Peterski that is also a likely scenario.
I feel like a getting lashed with a laserwhip would just cut him in half… but even if it didn’t, aren’t whip lashing scars generally straight? as per _Roots_ and _The Passion_ ?
maybe it was just the tip ;-) to stay safe ;)
I think it's definitely the case just for the fact that when she used the saber on the bug the tip split into 2 ends just like the pattern on his back dunno how he survived it tho because a lot of force it generated at the tip of a whip you would think it would tear right through him not just leave a scar like a normal whip.
But, wouldn’t a light whip split you in half all the same? (Rather than simply leave a scar)
Light sabers in legends typically had a way to lower the intensity of the beam for training purposes, however they could still leave severe burns and scars if misused.
lightsaber ain’t making a curved scar
Well, it's Disney, so you probably just walk it off, like lightsaber stabs or cuts...
@@Peterski that was happening way before Disney; Darth Maul anybody? Heck, even Anakin shouldn’t be around.
@@no-one-o1o1 both name you mentioned are 2 way different context compared to being cut by a lightsaber whip.
What if he kills the jedi to lure Vernestra out so he can kill her?
If Vernestra is the sith then her whole character arc from the books is destroyed
@@fibs6267 He never suggested she was dark side.
@@twincast2005he said she could be some sort of sith lord lol did you watch the vid
@@fibs6267 Maybe suggested was a smidgen too strong a word choice, but he immediately dismissed the idea, so, yeah, I fundamentally stand by what I wrote.
@@twincast2005 literally who cares, my comment is opinionated, if Vern were a sith then they’re disregarding the books.
@@fibs6267 You apparently care enough to respond to the response to your comment. And care enough to mention that it somehow destroys her character arc from the books.
Just what I was thinking (the weapon connection).
All that was lacking there were big red arrows pointing at the scar and then at the whip. Seee? SEEEEE? A CONNECTION!!!!! IT'S A SETUP! WAIT AND SEE! These writers have no subtlety at all.
so who got him into the dark side then? Darth Tenebrous or Darth Plaguis
Tenebrous. Tenebrous dies in 67 BBY (Legends obviously) and Plagueis becomes the Sith Master. In legends Plagueis is also either very young or not even born yet by 132 BBY.
I think she was an Dark Side user in the past, that redeemed herself and became a Jedi, or Qimir was her padawan that she tried to strike down once she realized he had fallen
Or it's just force lightning marks from Tenebrous
Also don't you see in Ep2 Qimir called out Sol on using "memory wipe or whatever", in Ep5 Mae called out Osha on being "brainwashed by Jedi" and Ep6 ends with Sol looking like he's about to brainwash Mae? Didn't George Lucas said Star Wars is heavily inspired by Kurosawa's movies? Didn't Lesley Headland said The Acolyte is heavily inspired by Kurosawa's film Rashomon? Didn't Rian Johnson said The Last Jedi is inspired by Kurosawa's film Rashomon too? Don't you know what Rashomon effect is? It's only us audience understanding what really happened by learning points of views from various witnesses, each giving new puzzles and contradicting each other.
The Last Jedi gave us Luke's first POV (that is entirely a lie and people still believe it's truth...), then Kylo's POV (truth but from his perspective) and then Luke's second POV (truth but from his perspective).
In The Acolyte what we learned in Ep3 is a entirely lie made up by Sol. What we will learn in Ep7 is the truth but from Sol perspective and the truth but from Qimir perspective. It's our task to know what is real and what's not between Sol and Qimir POVs.
Just to remind you, Kurosawa's Rashomon has 4 witnesses, so 4 half-truths. Star Wars makes it less complicated by one full lie and two half-truths. The fact that people still absorbs the first full lie like a full truth is laughable to me.
Great observation about the short blade against a whip in Star Wars canon. I don't know all the EU or anything like that but it seems like the light whip did cause the scar at this point. I didn't think it did only because the lightwhip looks like something that cuts things in half not barely touching something to scar it.
It’s on his back too, so I’m thinking it grazed him as he was running away.
but jedi dont use these whips xD Thats night sister magic
I read the novel where vernestra first appeared, she didn’t come of as evil. I think she did feel conflicted about the dark and light side while talking to another Jedi sskeer
“Being a Jedi is about choosing the light over and over again”
I think Qimir is basically like Darth Maul.
He's a tool of the Sith. Not an actual Sith Lord
Is Qmir's seacondary weapon really a shoto? It looks damn short, even for a shoto. I mean, it's all a matter of personal preference, it's not the way it's built but the way it's used that makes a shoto a shoto (that's why I don't understand people calling Yoda's lightsaber a shoto) so if Qmir says "Ok, I like my shoto ´to be very short but I'll use it as a shoto" then it's a shoto. Still, when I first saw it I thought more of a long lightsaber dagger.
light whip was also in star wars the forces of corruption game
Thay did say there would be 2 legends lightsabre types in the the show.
Qimir was a Padawan, maybe a Knight even, that got too curious about the ways of the Force and the jedi cast him out, maybe he had a moment of rage, lust, envy, etc and fell shortly after, then Darth Tenebris found him and was trainning him to be his apprentice but was disappointed by something he did, maybe the incident on the lesbian witches planet, and punished him. My ideia is that he revealed himself to the jedi, putting in risk around 900 years of Rule of Two planning, so Tenebris learned of even taught the witches to create life from the force, a feat he to some degree performed later to create Darth Plagueis.
In short, Qimir is trying to train an acolyte in order to prove himself to Tenebris, and then defeat and take his place as Dark Lord of the Sith, making his acolyte rise into an apprentice and keeping the Rule of Two cycle going.
I would put money on most of this being the case, or at least in a round about way...
Could be a sith lightning burn as a faje out
Interesting theory, I think people are putting too much thought into it though. She uses it in the books and it’s cool so they included it in the TV series.
Lightwhips should've stayed legends, makes the Lightsaber even more confusing on how it workds
I personally don’t find a laser whip that much less believable than a laser sword. 😂
The fights have been great so far, so if we get to see Vernestra and Qimir fight it’ll be sick. Always wanted to see that in live action.
Definitely, show is a solid 9/10 for me. Critics are dumb.
Agreed. I’m certain they will because of his lightsaber. A normal length blade and a shoto, same mix Luke used in the original comics to defeat a light whip user.
Cool
Maybe he was her padawan long before now but he chose a different path and sought revenge on Vernestra for everything he lost for the jedi.
No venestra only had one padawan in legends Imri Cantaros
@@Rouges_Reactions this ain't yo mama's legends no more son. And with how much she is about covering up dark side users existing, I think it could be something like this. Maybe he was a padawan along side her while she was hiding the fact she created some dark influenced weapon.
@@M32Mirach Could be or he could of been another jedi's padawan. But while being so. formed a close bond with venestra. Maybe something happened to his master. blaming it on her he could of lashed out on venestra causing her too hit him with her lightwhip
@@M32Mirach Venestra rhow did not make any weapon of the sort.
@@Rouges_Reactions I mean she had to defend her lightwhip modifications she made to her padawan based on his knowledge of forbidden forms. And most of the notable users being sith and not jedi seems to mean the light side tended to view it as an undesirable, inelegant weapon.
I feel like the shoto being a counter to a lightwhip is a bit of a stretch, I don't even see how it could feasibly be used to counter it - surely a longer blade would be more effective at wrapping up its dangerous tendrils without causing damage to one's own arms?
Idk, I guess we'll see.
I guess it was just simply be easier to balance and move around. Lightsabers are pretty heavy after all
Surely its Imri!!!!
Tracker Bazil is the Sith Lord.
So now they introduce bdsm in Star Bores? Dis getting juicier.
Qimir is a Sith pretender, he’s really just a fallen Jedi who feels betrayed by his former master who I think is probably Venestra. This show is all about the Jedi being flawed. I think if real Sith show up in the end, they won’t have much of a connection with Qimir or he will summon them for the first time.
If the Sith appear they would kill Qimir to cover their tracks.
Meh. Subtle foreboding is not a thing for these writers... Set up and payoffs are so transparent it's almost painful. Yes, the scar is from Venerstra or whatever the name of that plank of wood is. What likely happened, she was his Jedi master, he turned dark, she thought she had killed him but "somehow" he has returned and went on to study the sith ways on his own - which means he might be a self-taught Sith, not one of the two hiding in the galaxy at the time (assuming the writers care about the lore in this case - we know they don't give an f otherwise)... He indicated he might be older than he looks so there's that too.
There's a story with a potential there, squandered with meandering secondary plots about the twins, "the mystery" and all that crap.
They will probably ahow one ofbthe coven witches as a sith with a force wip like Githany from darth bane
If they say the green jedi is a sith now with two episodes to go its got bo meabing no wow factor behind it
It makes more sense to introduce someone new aa this season reeks of hoping for a second season
This is turning into game of thrones. I don't think George would've approved so much nudity.
Luke was naked in a Bacta tank (and in the deleted scenes) and we got a lot more screen-time of Jabba's palace and Leia's slave outfit than we did of the Stranger's quick bath
George would have a lot to say about the show, but I'm sure the very brief nudity would be the last thing on his mind
Then you didn't watch the old star wars movies and shows
A guy without a shirt is not nudity...
*Cough* Slave Leia outfit says what?
Shotos Typically are used as a counter to a lightsaber. Adding extra defence and attack when needed.
Vernestra is a Jedi purist, and she will incriminate Sol for all the murders, and will kill the Sith wannabe,because no one must know that there are other paths to the force, not the witches, nor the sith. She is a Jedi purist, and only Jedi,and their rules, are the path to the force.
I feel dumb for missing this.
The only thing I dont want to see, a Jedi traitor.
Man, disney completely fucked over the entire Star Wars universe🤦🏽.
Vernestra, a Sith Lord? Then our worst fears are confirmed. We must move quickly.
Our justice swift
I didn’t like her from the start - always had a feeling she was not who she appeared.
Downside to the show is the episode length
🤔hmmmm
Interesting? I'd say overly obvious. This show telegraphs its plot SO HARD. Darth Sith used to be a Jedi, he was injured and cast aside by Venestra, became a Sith. I don't think Venestra is a Sith herself, I think she is just (again obviously) corrupt, because part of this show's agenda is to make the Jedi look bad, and make the Sith appear more reasonable. I think it's doing this in a really clunky ineffective way, but it is what it is.
Absolutely, there's no subtlety in the writign at all. I'm surprised they didn't say anything like "these scars... look like from a whip..."
As for Venestra, I don't even think she's corrupt. She's probably doing what she thinks it's best to protect the order or whatever her noble cause that makes no sense will be. I think Jason will turn out to be self-taught in the sith way after being kicked out from the order and possibly left to die by Venestra. He has no sith master, he thinks he's the first sith in a thousand years and he's looking for a pupil.
*Manny* *Jacinto* 🇵🇭
Unpopular opinion and maybe I’m being biased because Manny Jacinto is Pinoy like me, but I think Manny comes off more MASCULINE than Hayden did in the Prequels and Adam in the Sequels.
It’s very much like Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Jaime Lannister. Manny can come off charismatic, brave, and still be sexy. Not of a lot of actors have “it” when it comes to being both manly and hot. Iron Man is my all-time favorite movie character but Robert Downey Jr. can come off sounding gay because he can talk so fast.
Boxing legend, Manny Pacquiao 🥊, is only 5’5. My mom is taller than him. But Manny Jacinto is about 5’11, maybe 5’10. We’re actually similar in height and weight (157-160 lbs) but I don’t have the biceps and torso as Darth Biceps himself. Same fair skin though as if we can fool for a Chinese. Manny is only an inch shorter than Hayden and about 7 years younger.
My biggest problem with Hayden is his voice. It sounds whiny. It sounded better in Ahsoka but I never got that ALPHA DOG in him like Manny has shown in this series. There are very few actors who come off truly alpha. Like The Rock can be alpha scary on camera and in real life. I heard Sean Connery was very alpha. Used to be a bodybuilder. Beat up a group of guys while Michael Caine held his coat.
The Acolyte’s Episode 6 might be the first time we ever see a male character sexually seduce a female character. Anakin didn’t really seduce Padmé. He gave her stalker eyes in Attack of the Clones and cringey lines written by George Lucas like…..
“From the moment I met you, all those years ago, not a day has gone by when I haven't thought of you. And now that I'm with you again... I'm in agony. The closer I get to you, the worse it gets. The thought of not being with you- I can't breath. I'm haunted by the kiss that you should never have given me. My heart is beating... hoping that kiss will not become a scar. You are in my very soul, tormenting me... what can I do?- I will do anything you ask". 🤮🤢
Simp talk from a virgin boy. 😂
“From my point of view, the Jedi are evil.”
followed by…
“Don’t make me destroy you.”
Obviously, Hayden is portraying the better and more legendary character. The Jesus Christ of Star Wars. All Manny is portraying is online nicknamed Smilo Ren. But I’m only comparing the actors’ performances and manliness. I never found Hayden to come off all that masculine. It’s like Jackie Chan trying to be masculine. Nah. Jackie has a face mostly for comedy.
Even though Manny is Filipino, he can play tough Asian gangsters like Triads and Yakuza if he wanted to. He has the muscles for them too. People call him Asian Ezra Miller but I think he can come off way more masculine than him. The polar opposite of his goofy FOB character in The Good Place. He’s acting like Asian Fez from That 70s Show in The Good Place. Manny can be masculine, vulnerable, sneaky, funny, sexy, and still be creepy and dark. Think the late Brandon Lee in The Crow (1994). I never saw that same range from Hayden.
Finally, two male Asian actors 🇰🇷🇵🇭 carrying Star Wars considering the Japanese samurai influence George Lucas took from Kurosawa to create Star Wars. Lee Jung-jae is the first Asian actor to be a Jedi. The first choice for Obi-Wan happened to be Toshiro Mifune from the Kurosawa films. And he was asked to be under the Vader costume as well but declined. We finally have Asian guys carrying Star Wars when Asian culture helped influenced it.
Star Wars implying sex or nudity doesn’t bother me. Didn’t Andor start off in a brothel in Morlana One? Didn’t Bix and Timm hook up one night? Didn’t Cassian have a vacation hookup after he succeeded with the heist? He was ready to take a shower with some hookup laying in bed. Andor was also the first to ever say “shit” in SW. I know Star Wars is catered for 12-year-olds as George said, but it’s NOT okay to imply nudity or sex but it’s okay to watch characters getting their heads chopped off? I don’t mind Star Wars exploring more adult territory.
I think Manny Jacinto is going to be a Star Wars icon 20 years from now. The Acolyte is being hated now but the same negativity was being said about the Prequels about 20 years ago and now people call Hayden and Ray Park legends. Ray Park was barely in TPM and he’s already regarded a SW legend. Will happen for Manny Jacinto in 20 years. The power of one, the power of two, the power of Manny! 💪🏻
Allen Xie should be proud of his Asian brothers carrying this show! Be proud to be Asian. We finally have Asian faces carrying Star Wars as our cultures are the root of what Star Wars would become.
That’s cool and all but I’m not reading all of that. You didn’t have to write an entire essay glazing Manny Jacinto and dumping on Hayden
TLDR but Manny Jacinto is the only interesting character in this show right now, and one of the only two good actors. The other being the Korean fella. They both give it their all despite having a super weak script to work with.
Can’t we just accept acolyte is a failure and move on? I pray to god they stop making this dogshit and make good shit
So he was whipped by Weinstein's Acolyte's wife 😭Also this is the show where they throw things willy-nilly, coz you know, weinstein's acolyte!
Venestra is a hero in the books, so absolutely not. Like this just click bait
Changes what? Trash into treasure?
That’s not an objective truth. Your eyes can deceive you. Experience is subjective young padawan.
@@passiondono4692 well said.
There were no interesting moments in those 30 minutes
Ugh
How many times did they make it a point to point out he had whip scars on his back, you know, incase you missed it the first time. Who has a whip and isnt afraid to use it? George should've never sold his property. Smh.
Idgaf what anyone says the acolyte IS NOT canon infact I'm now in the boat of I do not consider Disney star wars as star wars they are two totally different things
This is the only option. I just started reading the Darth Plagueis novel and it’s LEAGUES better than the Acolyte. Disney Star Wars is trash
It is canon. End of
The acolyte is 100% canon.
@@SURGEONAA2 nope, Rogue One, The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, and Andor were superb. I enjoyed Obi Wan Kenobi too
@@KoobanHooves1 obi wan was poorly written trash, it was a fun watch because of Ewan but nothing makes sense about it
who watches this trash of a show?
Good thing it isn't trash
@@darkstalkerknight63 so it’s a garbage?
@@ledzep448worse it's the whole waste management facility
@@ledzep448 no it isn't. It's actually really good star wars
@@hawkflyff not even close
This show is so fucking bad.
Not at all. It's really good
@@darkstalkerknight63 It really isn't... You must have really low standards.
@@Peterski it is really good and I have higher standards then you.
@@darkstalkerknight63*than