Thank you for sharing this & also for how you shared it. The Sabaton history Channel enlightened even more than the song did & the song was brilliantly written. Thank you, Bill.
Hailing for Belgium, Europe. We had our share of terror attacks in 2016 with twin bombings in an airport and metro station at peak hours, about 70 dead. I remember 9/11 as it was yesterday, a friend from Tucson was spending a few days in NYC for job interviews. I was coming back from work when I saw the news and first thought it was a trailer from a disaster movie. It was not. I tried to call my friend during the rest of the day and most of a sleepless night but the phone lines were down. I finally reached her around 5 AM. I stupidly asked "How do you feel?" and she answered "Alive" then we started to sob uncontrollably. My fear that she might be dead turned into anger, then bottomless rage. I listened to Trash Metal and tried to headbang my rage into oblivion, to no avail. Whoever targets innocent people in a terror attack, never mind the cause, is a barbarian. And the twisted minds who find justifications to such acts are not better. I cannot see old pics of NYC with the Twin Towers without feeling sick. As for the attack itself, I simply cannot watch the images, I feel like throwing up. Take care my friend.
11:07 That painting shows the moment after Charlotte Corday killed French revolutionary leader Jean-Paul Marat. She did this because her revulsion at the September Massacres, for which she held Marat responsible, but by her fear of an all-out civil war. She believed that Marat was threatening the Republic, and that his death would end violence throughout the country. Charlotte Corday was from a minor aristocratic family and had gotten an audience with Marat she stabbed him while he was in the bath killing him. Later she was executed by the guillotine. Her last words being "Doulcet-Pontécoulant is a coward to have refused to defend me when it was so easy." Doulcet-Pontécoulant was a man she asked to defend her in court but he did no get the message in time thus Charlotte thinking he refused.
While I was not in New York, nor have I ever been to New York, I don't think any of us will ever forget 9.1.1. I was devastated. It took me 5 hours to finally go to work. I still to this day honor those killed that day. I love your channel. I love Sabaton. Thank you Bill.
It is a great und very underrated song, in my opinion. But the topic is very emotional in a different way than their other songs, maybe because it's about something that happened in our lifetime.
I was at work with the radio on, listening to NPR so I heard the minute the first news alerts appeared and we all thought it was an accident. It soon became apparent it wasn't, and most of us spent the day going to and from the conference room, that had a TV. The strongest memory I had, however, was after work. I went out to the barn to take care of the horses. It was a beautiful day in this area and I took my little Thoroughbred out for some grass. I spent quite some time crying into her neck. I remember the quiet, not a plane in the sky. And, I remember the contrast between the absolute beauty around me and the horror that was going on in that beautiful city in my state.
Well said, my friend. I felt like I was right there with you as I read your words. I can smell the grass and the horse and the sense the quite and the gravity of what was happening. I was outside checking in an order with the driver when one of the other managers called and told me what had just happened. The driver and I stood in silence. When that manager came in about an hour later he brough with him a VHS tape he recorded the news footage to show me. Absolute horror. I was in the World Trade Center a few months earlier when a friend came out to visit from Indiana. It was my first time there. A few months after, January I think, I was in the city heading to MSG for a TOOL concert. he air was still full of smoke and had an acrid smell to it. Many streets south of Times Square were barricaded off. So surreal. So heartbreaking.
Good song. Describes them well. Thats horrible you were there. My town has a municipal airport. 3 of them trained there. My stepdad swore he seen them walking back and forth past his place a few times from the airport to, i guess, home. Including the leader. Im pissed they marred that airport that way.
I live right on the Hudson River. They used the river to guide them to the city. I was outside that morning checking in a delivery and we heard the loud sound of a very low jet going past but we're not far from a Air Force base where they fly the big C-130's out of so I didn't think much about it other than it was loud and I couldn't see anything. About half an hour later I got a call from another manager who was home watching the news and called me. I'll never forget that moment. I remember reading about them training at a small airport. My God, to think they walked right by!
I worked at Toke-A-Bowl...err...Taco Bell nights. I got home at 3 am and watched TV for 2 hours and fell asleep. I woke up suddenly and I knew I should on the tv right away. I must've caught it at the beginning and it was a little bit when the other got hit. What else pisses me off is the news anchors we're saying that they don't want to speculate on what happened with the first tower, even though they talked to witnesses. They only excepted it when Reuters put it out there. Even when the second one hit.
When it happened we were forced to go into an underground bunker and weren't allowed to see any more footage than we already seen, this continued into the late evening (our time).
An excellent song that reflects the anger and horror of terrorism. Sadly, this song can be applied to today's world as well. Until people stop making excuses for terrorism and supporting the terrorists this song will always be true. For terrorism to stop, there can be no compromise, ceasefire, or armistice. I also remember exactly where I was on 9/11, just as I remember exactly where I was on Nov 22, 1963, Nov 4, 1979, and Oct 23, 1983.
I think we all pretty much have that date in our memories forever. I wrote an article about a dream I had shortly afterward, that's on my site (under the Writing menu). It's called, October 2001-A Vision of “Golden Doors” (the first one in the second category) if you want to check it out. If you don't know how to get there, you can find out on Grandma's Got Grace. NOTE: Now that I've seen the full reaction with the "history" part, too, I'm REALLY thinking you may want to go check out that dream. My thoughts regarding the three-dream sequence are written there have been added, through the years since the dream(s) occurred--including the update I JUST made after hearing seeing and hearing this reaction. Thank you, BILL! This song has BIG bits and pieces from Sabaton's "The Last Stand." I think this is VERY intentional, since THAT song is about fighting a battle of the same type...long, long ago. Dan has done that one...hint, hint, hint. 😀 If others don't know, this is the same kind of thing that Iron Maiden songs (and a ton of OTHER metal songs) are about.
Well, I definitely have to check that one out! There will be a Dan on it's way thanks to a supporter so that's something we can all look forward to. Likely be out tomorrow morning. I have a few Sabaton tunes lined up but hope to get to Last Stand then I can do Dan's. Can't wait to read your article! Much love! 🤘❤️🤘
I will say that the promise of reward in heaven for terrorist activity goes back at least to the crusades when the idea that to kill an infidel (the word itself appropriated from the Arab language to indicate pretty much anyone who wasn't a Roman Catholic) was not murder, as the ten commandments would have held it to be, but was instead the path to heaven. I have problems with this song. I don't think it is particularly true to Sabaton's ethos as historians. I think it is also a problem because the war on terror was itself a crusade of terror. Al Qaeda started as an intelligence network against the Soviets. When the Soviets left and the US moved in Al Qaeda turned to terrorism. The problem is that it's widely understood that the terrorists could do what they did because of US training and potentially funding through back channels. That doesn't justify what they did and it doesn't do anything to diminish the horror but while Al Qaeda are responsible for truly despicable acts of terror they are comparatively modern considering the acts of terror committed by the US and its allies throughout the history of their development. 9/11 was truly horrific but we can't lose sight of the fact that it was a response from those who felt they had no recourse against a greater power committing evils in their homeland. Al Qaeda was front and centre for the atrocities committed by the Soviets and by the US and this was their response. As I am sure the US would respond with war (by any means) against enemies who encroached on their soil. It is true of any nation. We saw it all through WW1 and 2. We saw it in Vietnam, Korea and we saw it in Japan with the occupation by US forces after the surrender. Again, not saying they were right or condoning it but there is a history here that is often overlooked. I prefer when Sabaton are more historical in their approach to their music but I don't have any ill will towards them for writing this. I am a die hard Sabaton fan and always will be. That's my unpopular and unbiased opinion. Make of it what you will.
Al-qaeda was a Saudi based terror group funded by Bin-Laden. The Taliban is a theocratic regime based in Afghanistan. The US invaded Afghanistan after the Taliban refused to give up Bin-Laden after 911.
One of the very few times Sabaton took a stance about what were they singing about, a diss track if there ever was one
Yeah and probably I think the one time being so set on one side that is absolutely justified.
You can almost see the contempt dripping from Joakim's voice on this.
Yes, indeed!
Thank you for sharing this & also for how you shared it. The Sabaton history Channel enlightened even more than the song did & the song was brilliantly written. Thank you, Bill.
Thank you so much. I love the Sabaton History Channel!
Hailing for Belgium, Europe. We had our share of terror attacks in 2016 with twin bombings in an airport and metro station at peak hours, about 70 dead.
I remember 9/11 as it was yesterday, a friend from Tucson was spending a few days in NYC for job interviews. I was coming back from work when I saw the news and first thought it was a trailer from a disaster movie. It was not. I tried to call my friend during the rest of the day and most of a sleepless night but the phone lines were down. I finally reached her around 5 AM. I stupidly asked "How do you feel?" and she answered "Alive" then we started to sob uncontrollably. My fear that she might be dead turned into anger, then bottomless rage. I listened to Trash Metal and tried to headbang my rage into oblivion, to no avail.
Whoever targets innocent people in a terror attack, never mind the cause, is a barbarian. And the twisted minds who find justifications to such acts are not better.
I cannot see old pics of NYC with the Twin Towers without feeling sick. As for the attack itself, I simply cannot watch the images, I feel like throwing up.
Take care my friend.
Yes, I hear ya. Even old movies with the towers brings me right down
11:07 That painting shows the moment after Charlotte Corday killed French revolutionary leader Jean-Paul Marat. She did this because her revulsion at the September Massacres, for which she held Marat responsible, but by her fear of an all-out civil war. She believed that Marat was threatening the Republic, and that his death would end violence throughout the country.
Charlotte Corday was from a minor aristocratic family and had gotten an audience with Marat she stabbed him while he was in the bath killing him.
Later she was executed by the guillotine. Her last words being "Doulcet-Pontécoulant is a coward to have refused to defend me when it was so easy."
Doulcet-Pontécoulant was a man she asked to defend her in court but he did no get the message in time thus Charlotte thinking he refused.
I appreciate the history that you have provided. I never would have known without you!
While I was not in New York, nor have I ever been to New York, I don't think any of us will ever forget 9.1.1. I was devastated. It took me 5 hours to finally go to work. I still to this day honor those killed that day. I love your channel. I love Sabaton. Thank you Bill.
yep still remember where I WAS AT that day
It is a great und very underrated song, in my opinion. But the topic is very emotional in a different way than their other songs, maybe because it's about something that happened in our lifetime.
I was at work with the radio on, listening to NPR so I heard the minute the first news alerts appeared and we all thought it was an accident. It soon became apparent it wasn't, and most of us spent the day going to and from the conference room, that had a TV. The strongest memory I had, however, was after work. I went out to the barn to take care of the horses. It was a beautiful day in this area and I took my little Thoroughbred out for some grass. I spent quite some time crying into her neck. I remember the quiet, not a plane in the sky. And, I remember the contrast between the absolute beauty around me and the horror that was going on in that beautiful city in my state.
Well said, my friend. I felt like I was right there with you as I read your words. I can smell the grass and the horse and the sense the quite and the gravity of what was happening. I was outside checking in an order with the driver when one of the other managers called and told me what had just happened. The driver and I stood in silence. When that manager came in about an hour later he brough with him a VHS tape he recorded the news footage to show me. Absolute horror. I was in the World Trade Center a few months earlier when a friend came out to visit from Indiana. It was my first time there.
A few months after, January I think, I was in the city heading to MSG for a TOOL concert. he air was still full of smoke and had an acrid smell to it. Many streets south of Times Square were barricaded off. So surreal. So heartbreaking.
Good song. Describes them well. Thats horrible you were there. My town has a municipal airport. 3 of them trained there. My stepdad swore he seen them walking back and forth past his place a few times from the airport to, i guess, home. Including the leader. Im pissed they marred that airport that way.
I live right on the Hudson River. They used the river to guide them to the city. I was outside that morning checking in a delivery and we heard the loud sound of a very low jet going past but we're not far from a Air Force base where they fly the big C-130's out of so I didn't think much about it other than it was loud and I couldn't see anything. About half an hour later I got a call from another manager who was home watching the news and called me. I'll never forget that moment. I remember reading about them training at a small airport. My God, to think they walked right by!
I worked at Toke-A-Bowl...err...Taco Bell nights. I got home at 3 am and watched TV for 2 hours and fell asleep. I woke up suddenly and I knew I should on the tv right away. I must've caught it at the beginning and it was a little bit when the other got hit. What else pisses me off is the news anchors we're saying that they don't want to speculate on what happened with the first tower, even though they talked to witnesses. They only excepted it when Reuters put it out there. Even when the second one hit.
It still feels so resent...😢
😞
When it happened we were forced to go into an underground bunker and weren't allowed to see any more footage than we already seen, this continued into the late evening (our time).
Horrible conditions and frightening I'm sure.
@@BemusingBillfirst of all, irritating as hell.
An excellent song that reflects the anger and horror of terrorism. Sadly, this song can be applied to today's world as well. Until people stop making excuses for terrorism and supporting the terrorists this song will always be true. For terrorism to stop, there can be no compromise, ceasefire, or armistice.
I also remember exactly where I was on 9/11, just as I remember exactly where I was on Nov 22, 1963, Nov 4, 1979, and Oct 23, 1983.
I think we all pretty much have that date in our memories forever. I wrote an article about a dream I had shortly afterward, that's on my site (under the Writing menu). It's called, October 2001-A Vision of “Golden Doors” (the first one in the second category) if you want to check it out. If you don't know how to get there, you can find out on Grandma's Got Grace. NOTE: Now that I've seen the full reaction with the "history" part, too, I'm REALLY thinking you may want to go check out that dream. My thoughts regarding the three-dream sequence are written there have been added, through the years since the dream(s) occurred--including the update I JUST made after hearing seeing and hearing this reaction. Thank you, BILL!
This song has BIG bits and pieces from Sabaton's "The Last Stand." I think this is VERY intentional, since THAT song is about fighting a battle of the same type...long, long ago.
Dan has done that one...hint, hint, hint. 😀
If others don't know, this is the same kind of thing that Iron Maiden songs (and a ton of OTHER metal songs) are about.
Well, I definitely have to check that one out! There will be a Dan on it's way thanks to a supporter so that's something we can all look forward to. Likely be out tomorrow morning. I have a few Sabaton tunes lined up but hope to get to Last Stand then I can do Dan's.
Can't wait to read your article! Much love! 🤘❤️🤘
you should react to a called hidden gem from sabaton NIGHT CHILD.
you will not believe how they got an idea for another song from them LOL
I will say that the promise of reward in heaven for terrorist activity goes back at least to the crusades when the idea that to kill an infidel (the word itself appropriated from the Arab language to indicate pretty much anyone who wasn't a Roman Catholic) was not murder, as the ten commandments would have held it to be, but was instead the path to heaven.
I have problems with this song. I don't think it is particularly true to Sabaton's ethos as historians. I think it is also a problem because the war on terror was itself a crusade of terror. Al Qaeda started as an intelligence network against the Soviets. When the Soviets left and the US moved in Al Qaeda turned to terrorism. The problem is that it's widely understood that the terrorists could do what they did because of US training and potentially funding through back channels. That doesn't justify what they did and it doesn't do anything to diminish the horror but while Al Qaeda are responsible for truly despicable acts of terror they are comparatively modern considering the acts of terror committed by the US and its allies throughout the history of their development. 9/11 was truly horrific but we can't lose sight of the fact that it was a response from those who felt they had no recourse against a greater power committing evils in their homeland. Al Qaeda was front and centre for the atrocities committed by the Soviets and by the US and this was their response. As I am sure the US would respond with war (by any means) against enemies who encroached on their soil. It is true of any nation. We saw it all through WW1 and 2. We saw it in Vietnam, Korea and we saw it in Japan with the occupation by US forces after the surrender. Again, not saying they were right or condoning it but there is a history here that is often overlooked. I prefer when Sabaton are more historical in their approach to their music but I don't have any ill will towards them for writing this. I am a die hard Sabaton fan and always will be.
That's my unpopular and unbiased opinion. Make of it what you will.
Al-qaeda was a Saudi based terror group funded by Bin-Laden. The Taliban is a theocratic regime based in Afghanistan. The US invaded Afghanistan after the Taliban refused to give up Bin-Laden after 911.