INLINE SKATING TECH SCHOOL - SOFT BOOT VS HARD BOOT SKATES VLOG132
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@@RicardoLinoHi! I’m loving your channel and content. New to inlines but not quads and there is a steep learning curve it seems. I am a female and ended up buying PS Imperial 80 Lollipops but find them quite uncomfortable but don’t know what to compare it to because I’ve not worn any before. How do I know if it won’t get better after “breaking it in” or whether it just does not feel comfortable in general and won’t get better? Then after watching a bunch of UA-cam videos I went with hard instead of soft but I found that the Zetrablades felt a bit more comfortable overall but everyone online was saying it does not give proper ankle support and until I build up muscle in my leg, ankle, calves, etc I didn’t want to chance getting hurt. Any thoughts or insight?
Hey Ricardo!
My name is Nikita and i wanna thank you for all the awesome videos you make, whether they are tutorials, discussions, interviews or just fun stuff.
I'm myself an aggressive skater, though i only started (mainly soul grind and front side). And i wanna say your passion about all the types of wheels is incredible, your love to all things related wheels pumps me up every time!
Thank you a lot,
Wheel addict(minor), Nikita
thank you soo soo sooo much Nikita. it really means a lot to me!!
I went from a set of Rollerblade Tempest skates which I'm pretty sure are soft-boot skates, to flying eagle hard-boot skates, and I remember how jarring the difference was. The thing that stood out to me was how much more confident I was with my feet with the hard-boot skates. It was crazy though, after 2 to 3 months of getting used to the Flying Eagles, I tried my Rollerblade Tempest skates again and I had no idea how I ever skated in them!
Tony Greenman I totally get what your saying, but the tempest are more like a skate for marathons etc, and the flying eagles are more like urban skates . But some softboot urban skates or even soft boot aggressive skates are really stiff. I get it really go for brand tô Brand and model to model 👍🏼👊🏼💥
Hi! Could you recommend any "hard" softboot (hybrid) skates, suited for urban skating (especially jumping)?
I had soft boots for months. Used hard ones for just an hour and hated my soft boots lol
Hey Lino, thanks for your videos. I completed my journey from dummies to absolutely normal skatter... thank you so much.
you are my new skate guru
Love your videos Ricardo! Been getting back into rollerblading and your videos are solving all of the questions I had. Thank you!
oh wow!! THANK YOU SOO SOO SOO MUCH for the supportive message!
it means a lot to me!
Thanks for your informative video Lino, as always.
I started skating recently, with a K2 fit84 (soft). It was very comfortable but I had a hard time staying on center edge. The Velcro strap worn out and I replaced them with the twister80 (hard). Quite uncomfortable, gave me some blisters, had to hear mold the boot and only now, after a month, I am quite comfy. But, from day 1, the center edge was perfect, I noticed a difference in power transfert, and it was very responsive (shorter frame and smaller wheels I guess).
When I'll be good enough with many sliding stops, I will gladly try those triskates that you love so much 😇.
Thanks for your great work and dedication
sighange thank you so so much for the comment! Feedback is always welcome and when positive even better to keep the motivation levels ❤️lotta love
Ugh thank you for making this. I am stuck on which type to buy. Grabbing my coffee and about to learn
Another fine lesson Lino. With this now I can answer why I skate what I skate with confidence. On top of that, I can help others pick their own skates.
Daniel Naron thank you soo much! Trying to get more people into this 👊🏼💥
is also about weight, every gram count in all skates but especially for speed skates; reduced frontal section to the air, even more important with speed; no resistance of the cuffs to win; ... but sure are things you already know ;) nice videos!
Tiziano Carraro that's a really good point that I didn't touch. Thanks 🙏🏼
I think I know the answer for the speed skate question. The speed skate technique requires that a few areas are quite hard, noticeably the heel. The remaining of the skate needs to made easier to tight and compress around the speed skater foot. This will allow maximum power transfer from the legs to the wheels. If you do an entire hard boot skate for speed skating, you will most certainly have to use an all carbon construction and have the whole thing molded to the skater feet, which will be unecessarily expensive. Otherwise you will find small gaps of air between the foot and the skate, and these gaps will be responsible for less than optimal power transfer.
In summary, you reinforce the areas you want to have maximum power transfer and do soft, but tight and well molded areas to wrap around the skater feet. Anything else will waste energy.
I'm looking into skating just as a way of getting fit. I was really confused about the whole hard / soft thing but this helped A LOT. Ty man.
What wheels did you go with
Hey lino!
Thank you for the explanation. It was really helpful for me. I really really like your videos! Go on 😀
Thank you so much for posting this. I’ve been looking into many questions as I am researching triskates. As I grew up with figure skating, I’m not used to the normal hard shell for skates. I recently cut the tops off of my hard boots so that I could move my ankles (don’t worry, they were cheep’o skates)
AND YEAHHH OFCOURSE,THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR GREAT VIDEO'S, AND CONGRATS WITH YOUR BEAUTIFULL DAUGTHER
I get you're saying there are lots of factors. And sure, a hard shell boot could be crap. In general, the hard shell skate will generally be more supportive than the soft skate. In the skating world, it's why slalom skaters use a hard boot - they need the support hard shells provide. And in the ski and snowboard world, racers use hard boots - they provide better power transfer and support.
DavidSkis exactly. From what you said there's only one thing I don't agree, which is. Slalom skaters , the best at least use softboot / Carbon skates and they are a lot stiffer then any plastic hardboot skate. 👊🏼but exactly what you said.. so many factors that we can't say soft is more comfortable or hard his more supportive .. there more the the top of the skate being leather of plastic 👊🏼💥❤️
Just my two cents; I'm an aggressive skater, and for people who think that hard boot skates are uncomfortable, its quite the opposite. Hard boot skates are extremely comfortable and they have great support.
I agree; I started with a pair of fitness skates, and while they were comfortable, they flopped around side-to-side so much that I felt I was wasting my energy. I then moved to freestyle skates (Powerslide Zoom/Next), and they are comfortable despite the hard boot, BUT provide the support that the cheap fitness skates lacked. I love my hard-boot skates: they are super-supportive and plenty comfortable. It's a matter of trying different models and finding the ones that fit the shape of your foot best, providing both comfort and support.
Always loved my softies. K2s, deshis, roces graahls, remz and usd carbons.
Then i got aeons! Soo amazing compared to every other hard boot I've had (almost all but valos). The only other hard bit I loved was the usd classic thrones
I went from slalom in flying eagles to slalom in bont speed skates with seba 80mm frame. Took awhile to even skate right but ankle support is overrated, I feel much freer now. My skates fit in much smaller bags too.
C est le chausson qui fait le confort.
Mes Seba ont des boots rigides, mais des bon gros chaussons moelleux ! Confort de canapé ! J adore !
So... thats the reason, why I got a pair of the k2 I'll capo... Many of my friend's hate them... But I love them, because it is the perfect choice between a soft and a hard boot. But I also got my 16 year old USD Thrones, when I really want to shred the park. But again Ricardo.... Another great video 😎👍
Jesse Bombshell yap. I know lots of people who hate them. But I also know lots who love them. That's why brand don't always make the same..: diferente people diferent needs right ? 👍🏼
Olá Ricardo! Mais um vídeo que gostei muito. Parece que você leu meu pensamento! Pensei justamente em te perguntar sobre esse tema. Pretendo comprar um patins novo, mas são tantas opções que fica difícil escolher. Estava com dúvida em escolher um Imperial ou Kaze e sua explicação me ajudou muito. Acho que para meu perfil o Kaze será mais adequado, mas a verdade é que existem tantos modelos lindos que dá vontade mesmo é de fazer uma coleção, pena que o bolso não colabora muito. kkkk Enfim... que você continue fazendo ótimos vídeos como esse. Cheers!
MUITO OBRIGADO Carol :)
sim, os Kaze são brutais!!! eu diria que funciona melhor com frame 110 do que 125, mas depende da pessoa, eu ja me habituei com os 125... ;)
muito obrigado pelo feedback!!! :)
Good info, Ricardo! You're like a UA-cam encyclopedia dedicated to inline skates. = ) Anyway, been on soft-boot fitness skates (pretty sure). New skater, but I've already decided that I'd like to try more like slalom / aggressive / artistic / inline skate dancing / jamming (not sure what the last one's technically called). A bit tough for me to balance so far on the outside edge of one skate, but I'm working on it, even though the soft boot makes me feel like my foot may be slipping a skosh -- a skosh floppy in the boot. (I do my best to lace 'em down well. I can only get my soft boots laced down so far, so I have to compensate by really working on my balance. Probably for the best, really. ; ) Would love to upgrade later on to more of a freeskate I can spin on. Been trying that a little -- just a little -- already on my soft-booted fitness skates, and I love it! = D
Hey how's it going? I was just want to know if the Tempest 90c a good skate to start off with to train for a half for my marathon? And can I fit the 110 frame on them later? Or is the Swell 125 city better for a marathon beginner?
Lino! Your videos are soooo helpful man. Im having some trouble on transitioning forwards to backwards skating. Do you think you can make a tutorial for thay??
slashaXD that's would be a good one to do. But the next "how to skate tutorial" will be a bit more basic." THE STRIDE" , but that can be the one after. Thanks for suggesting 👊🏼💥
I always want to know more about both skates. Thanks for the very informative video. The black background made it difficult to see the black inline skate properly as of the others it highlighted their color a bit. Thanks for the upload.
Skate safe.
thanks dude...i know..and what freaked me out about this video was the light constantly changing...i made a big amateur mistake by leaving the white balance automatic..and camera kep on tryig to find the best lighting..sorry about this one! thanks
If im just messing around outside playing with a stick and puck for roller hockey would you prefer soft boot or hard boot?
Nice! I've a pair of K2 uptowns closely based on the fatty they feel very stiff and supportive for a softboot. People sometimes say larger/heavier skaters are better with a hard boot..also hard boots are generally heavier?
i gues just like i said in the videos..every skate is diferent. there are so many variables..we can t say one is better or more supportive..goes from skate to skate ;)
which do you reccomend
for larger calves?
Hi Lino, I have the Kaze boot and it's terrible in my inner ankles. Do you have any tricks or tips to help it from digging in the ankle? Thanks.
What do you think is better K2 Midtown or rollerblade twister edge
I am learning on soft K2 boots. I love them. Should I still be able to do parallel turns and most basic transitions on them despite the lesser stability a hard boot gives? I want to blame my skates but probably my technique poor as I'm struggling
Hey Lino what up dude?! Do those aggressive skates fit bigger wheels like 70mm? That kizer looks like a big frame! How much are those?
Great video!
To try and answer your question “why is there no hard boot speed skate?”
I believe it would not work for several reasons. The loss of power transfer as you mentioned. Also there isn’t a precise enough fit, which is directly related to power transfer. Finally speed skaters aren’t at all worried about comfort : the old adage “no pain no gain” definitely applies!
“We don’t need no stinking liners” lol
I prefer “soft boots” with carbon. Seba CJ and Marathon for me, with Rollerblade Metroblade also at the top of the list. There is something really nice about the precise fit of soft boot with carbon, which isn’t really soft at all.
I think one of the real values in hard boots, besides aggressive park skating, is they can help to provide a kind of ankle stiffness that can makes skating easier for beginners and also have impact durability. Not to say they aren’t also good for intermediate and advanced!
Overall I think there’s so many good options available for all skating disciplines, and all are valid even though not everyone will agree about soft boot vs hard boot.
Finally thanks for the all of the great videos!
I been looking at seba high light carbon pro at moment, wondering if you know what limits the max weight? Some other skates I seen are 100kg max but I am more than that at the moment, unsure if boot, frame or wheels
Ricardo,i was wondering.
I have the Powerslide city 125 mm.
When i want a same ride experience but still another skate (yeahhh ,i just want new skates this year!!)What would you recomment?The Next 125mm ,or the Firefly??Powerslide imperial Jade?(I just love the colour 😁💓
how would you rate the powerslide kaze 90 or 110 for just cruising and jumps
boom!
im in the proccess of buying some skates. grew up with quads but am thinking about trying inline i have rode on some blade runners of a friend. i think they were cheaoer rec skates. i will mostly be skating in a rink with my kids or speed around the park trails but would like too learn some freestyle moves eventualy. what type/brand would be good for a beginner?
Hi Ricardo. I have a question that would make a good video subject for you. How much abuse can a soft boot take before it would be better to own a hard boot? It is marketed as a fitness skate, but it would be good to see them get put to the test.
I have the swell inlineskate with 110mm but they move too much....they are very flexible. I changed the wheels to 80mm and they are now going great.
I am using the 110mm wheels that came with the swells in hard boots...and they goes really well.
So i suppose that the configuration you use really change the way you feel the skates
i would say even the frame would change your experience... ;) i´m sure you dont have the trinity ones..the trinity ones are great with 110..but i guess we all like and feel different abut skates... ;) thanks for the comment
THE LINO LIFE sure, i am looking foward to try the trinity. Thxs Ricardo
What is your opinion for a hockey-skate in use for streetskating and tricks?
Yes I would really like to know that too. I have some rollerblade skates that are just over a year old and both of the lower straps have broken in the past week or so. I was wondering hockey skates more durable? The wheels are due replacing as the bearings are giving up also. Do I service or get new skates?
I have the Roselle Inline Skate Pro 4 Wheels 76mm Cityaun 231mm White Size 7 For Women Men. I like to skate on smooth sidewalks and pavement. I have had these for a while and my feet hurt. I feel like there isn’t a lot of breathability and the boot is too hard. After I skate my wheels look flat. Can you recommend a skate for long mile rides like 9 miles?
Kaze Swell Tau, are not comfortable for Ankles. It's not really SOFT boot. I have tried and every one gave me some ankle pain. From Powerslide brand, only HC EVO is good for me. The rest is not enough comfortable for me.
I understand the problem; my ankle bones (on the inside part of the foot) protrude more than the average person's. It's a matter of trying different models, to find the one(s) that fit the shape of your foot best while still providing plenty of support. Or you can do what I did, which was to heat-treat the plastic boot to mold away the pain points. Now my hard-boot skates are snug and comfortable!
@ricardo lino of cource thats the only reason you mentioned for speed skates.
What skate is the tri?
Hi Ricardo! I've been skating for many years now but just a year ago i bought my first pair of aggressive skates (Usd sway2). They are great but now Im looking for something different, something faster like triskates. Do you think Kizer Trimax is a good option for me? What do you think about this frame? Btw I love your channel and keep doing a great job!!!
Paweł Kulinowski have you though about just getting the TRIMAX frames ? That's the main reason why I got my ways and I love the way the feel with TRIMAX, fast and supportive ❤️
boa tarde Lino , o que pensas da botas da k2 unnatural 2017?? abraço bro
hey lino is this version of sway harder for doing fishbrain and backslide than the normal ones for aggressive skating?
Mateus Mento compared to the Aeons I feel it's a bit more restrictive, because of the taller cut. But that's why I got them at first. Cause i wanted a taller boot for the TRIMAX frames. But the sways are
Nice. Once you get used I love th way they slide on every trick 👌🏼
Hard Boot Only! ;)
Same
Why there are no hardboot speedskates? a low boot gives you more freedom of movement, helps to go faster. im from holland, here you start as a child with hardboot ice skates and only when you progress you go to low full leather ice skates. The full leather skates give a lot of freedom .
My opinion ill normally pick hard boot so when i do fall the hard boot wont tear up and will take all the damage.
Doyouevenblade fair enough :) some people care more about the softness etc. it I guess everyone has diferent needs
Powerslide Next vs Swell?
depends on your goal..
Next for urban skating
Swell for fitness :)
i got soft boot skates and im a bit sad hearing this, and i cant gst them back. i skate freestyle. but is it ok for freestyle for now ? i also skate for 9 year
What about the low profile soft boots that are used by speed inline skaters?
ciao lino! I really like your videos, really inspiring! its impressive how you can skate everythingfrom aggressive to quad! I Am getting addicted to your vlogs =) can i Have an advice from you?? im really a beginner and absolutely not talented skater, i hate that i need to do 30/40 minutes of car to reach the first and only skatepark. I live in the north east of italy, the right place for skiing, not really for skating (DH maybe). now i roll a pair of rollerblade solo with an antirocker 62mm or a kizer 4x80 mm in street. but, has i said, i can't go to the skatepark everyday so i can't progress how i want to... for me aggressive is the most fun skating but for now i need to improve in street! so what setup should i use?I like the sway,i saw your videos and they seem to be universal skates for aggressive, powerblade and triskate.is it ok for a beginner or should i buy something like the rb 110 3wd or something like a powerslide fr1/fr2/imperial or fila nrk... there are so many skates in the market.... i love seeing you trying all them but i need to go for the cheapest and universal solution so they sway sounds good (120 euros with kizer 4x72).is it maybe similar to the rb solo/fusion?? thaaaaankss man keep on spreading this sport!!!
I have skinny ankles I'm using soft boot skates and need to tighten them very hard not to allow side movements size is correct but maybe bit to wide what would you recommend hard boot maybe
Thanks
Just so you know I using roller derby aerio q80 maybe they to soft for my skinny ankles hahah
I can't find any cheap skates like those I dunno in the uk pls links
Hey Ricardo great video! I'm having a similar battle with my k2 unnatural. They are so stiff and the cuff is so high that unless I have them really loose at the top I can barely bend my knees. Just wondered if you had tried them and or had any tips in how to get the best out of them or could recommend an alternative for a beginner in aggressive skating.
from what i have been hearing the new K2 they takequite alot to break in...but once you do THEY´RE AWESOME! but i havent try them..i would say with AEON´s you never go wrong ;)
Mark, i had the same issue as you. I always was skating k2 fattys when i was skating. So after a long abstinence (about 10years) i got me a k2 frontstreet 2016. It was Stiff as fuck and the area above the cuff was to high and that extra strap was annoying. After a month of hardcore skating the skate wasnt better so i got a k2 unnatural 2016. OMG that skate felt so good in comparison. Still stiff, high cuff, annoying extra Strap but much better flex and comfort. Excellent for jumps and powerblading. But the biggest problem is the royal angle. I couldnt touch the curb/rail with the backslideplate. Then i changed the frame to a groundcontrol flt3(antirocker setup), but still no change. Out of frustration i changed to a usd carbon free montre livingston boot. Now everything is fine. i can really lay down on my boot so much easier because of the big carbon soulplates, lower cut on the cuff and softer boot. Which gives me super flex but it can also be unstable at first while landing jumps. So I like the unnatural somehow, yes i really do. But when it comes to the royale angle. It is super hard to touch with the backslideplate. Carbon skate was the easy way out for me.
Benjamin David cheers. I've tried big wheel set up freeskating in them for hours. I just don't think they suit my style or lack there of! I nearly went for the aeons so ill have a look at both suggestions. I think I'm just learning aggressive and the carbons are a bit pricey.
THE LINO LIFE it was between the aeons and the unnatural. I went for k2 out of childhood nostalgia! I should have asked first!
Mark Hodges yes i thought the same. With k2 you cant go wrong haha. Check out the usd seven first, before you buy the aeons. Seven is cheap and has a very good soulplate. Even alot of carbon riders change the carbon-soulplate to seven-soulplate. And you can change the frame. What you cant do with aeons. Aeon has no UFS. It should have a good frame and soulplate. But if you dont like it, you are stuck with it. Usd sway could be a Option too. I dont know your level of skating, but k2 unnaturals should be fine for starting out with aggressive skating. If i were you, i would keep them until you reach the level where you wanna try Royals and Unitys.
USD Aeon 72 or USD carbon/free(maybe Adapt or Remz) with 72 setup?
I currently use Aeons, but they are so stiff. Will be carbon/free softer, but still safe? If yes, still safe enought for 76-80mm setup?
Just learned Makio grind and Im happy - its was the point: fsk or aggressive(powerblading) skates to go next.
Im almost 29 and its my first season with the inline skates. Also, Im about powerblading/fsk, not grinderblading, so its not about groove on frames.
P.S. Aeons soleplates wears so fast, and replacement cost a lot: $80 for frame+plate vs $10-20 for normal pates. And since i can do only Makio its wears much faster if i can soul/fs/bs/pornstar/etc... When you slide with both feet.
glamball carbons are stiffer then carbons frees 👍🏼 as for the aeons I usually skate then with the buckle a bit loose and used to skate tight liner and got lots of flex... but if you need dispor you. Buckle them up real tight . I usually don't 😉👍🏼
I prefer soft boot, all hardboot skates I have tried eventually gave me blisters with the pressure points in my foot
I use hard boot skates... wondering what soft would be like
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LINO! you didn't answer my question from the other day:
Would the Fatboy liners work well in the classic style remz?
hi Kunle..yes they do..!sorry about missing you answer....check this guy, Myron Mance, he is a professional Gimbal operator in the high end cinema industry and he uses his remz with FAT BOY liners, he said he feels the skates a lot more comfortable and more supportive too:
instagram.com/p/BV6qAEgh0cO/?taken-by=myron_mance
THE LINO LIFE thanks man, if I like them I'll let you know!
yes please ;) let me know how experience goes..positive or negative (which i don´t think its going to be the case ) ;)
I think Bont sells some hard speed skates.
What skates are the black ones you hold on 5:50?? Please reply i really like them.
That's the Powerslide Khaan.
POWERSLIDE V 100 JESPER vs MOON GREY 100 ???
plizz help
Love both, but only have the jesper 110 myself. i guess the main diference is wheel size and frame lenght...i would say, if you like big wheels go jesper ;) if you wanna be closer to the grouns and seen at night , moon grey , they glow have reflective details ;)
ty for feed back :D
I have k2 fatty pros :D
Hard Boots For Me Because, Soft Boots Are Very Painful And Unstable For My Left Food. So I Stick With Hard Boots For Now.
what is the name of the pinkn skates
That's the Powerslide Swell.
No song at the end xdd
Muhammad Khalique Mohamad Zulkipli yap. Changed it slowly last week. 👊🏼 I guess the music at the end would make people switch is of before the end and that affects the channel a bit. So this way will hopefully keep you in the video I'll the end and have youtube help suggesting this video to more people.. want more people seeing. Skating 👊🏼
Hard boot speed skate....Thats the Powerslide Next ,right?
The Powerslide Next is more of a freestyle skate, though the ones with bigger wheels provide plenty of speed.
I do not like soft boot Swell skates. I bought them for distances. It was the biggest mistake. Period.
How come?
Second
:)
Plastic skates are just nasty, end of.
the impression is the guy is practicing his English, repeating the word "supportive" a thousand times.
why is it sooooooo hard to find a stylish womens skate that is mae out of good materials? god damn
just take a man skate
Who made these captions? They're awful
Edit: As are the Dutch translations
its an automatic google thig..deactivate them..sorry
@@RicardoLino Yeah no problem man, just kinda weird google enables that by default, while for real human translation you need approval.
Ric you should ad background music to ya videos.
Screw that. I wanna hear what he says.
for non-native English speakers, background music would make it harder to understand what is being said.
Can you delete the polish translation because it's so bad. It's translate the SOFT BOOT i SKLEPY BOKINGOWE it means soft boot and booking shop.
dami4N will do, or can you please translate his for me and I can change it ? 🙏🏼
What is the title of this film in english?
"INLINE SKATING TECH SCHOOL - SOFT BOOT VS HARD BOOT SKATES VLOG132"
thank you!
"INLINE SKATING TECH SCHOOL - MIĘKKI BUT VS TWARDY BUT W ROLCE VLOG132"
Soft boot should be illegal. All skates should be hard boot!