If Your Hihats Look Like This, STOP.

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    If your hihats look like the ones in the thumbnail, you need to make a quick adjustment that will actually make your hihat playing sound 10X better immediately. This quick fix is easy - but often overlooked, and I’ll show you why making this fix is so crucial to your success on the drums. I love quick fixes that instantly make you sound way better, and this is exactly that. By properly adjusting your hihat cymbal spacing and bottom hat angle, you’ll be sounding so much better so fast.
    We wrap up the video by digging deeper beyond hihat optimization, and I teach a method for playing a really cool, unique open-hat sound. You’ll definitely want to start incorporating this into YOUR playing, and it’s not that hard to do. Enjoy!
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  • @sccdrum93
    @sccdrum93  3 роки тому +22

    → Nail one-handed 16ths, open-hat barks, and left foot independence in 9 lessons. Download my FREE pdf guide, “Your 3 Biggest Hihat Problems, SOLVED: 9 Strategies for Overcoming Hihat Frustration & Left Foot Issues” ✔︎ the-non-glamorous-drummer-llc.ck.page/4807da4fa7

    • @archologyzero
      @archologyzero 3 роки тому +5

      This video is garbage.

    • @DeanMccormick
      @DeanMccormick 2 роки тому +2

      I disagree. I keep the opening as low as possible to permit all sounds to fully project. For me, the feel suffers with high hats wide open (especially using closed with foot intricacies including dead notes). Try a stream of controlled 16th notes, hand foot, hand foot, as muted and dry as possible, you'll soon get what I mean.

    • @scottchristie
      @scottchristie 2 роки тому

      @@DeanMccormick yup, total disagreement with this vid (hat too open is garbage) and think it's not good for beginners to hear this who don't know better... It really comes down to what feels right and the encouragement should be to experiment with hihat, not set it and forget. Try playing 16's with your foot on the hihat. Need a tight hat for that. ua-cam.com/video/RtYcwFmyf78/v-deo.html

    • @scottchristie
      @scottchristie 2 роки тому

      oops, meant to post this one with two hihats going simultaneously. Notice how near to closed the hat on the right is... ua-cam.com/video/aOgQzzVOSI4/v-deo.html

    • @davidbrooks9134
      @davidbrooks9134 Рік тому

      AxveriSCOTT

  • @drmroneal
    @drmroneal 3 роки тому +317

    This doesn’t apply if you play double bass.
    Playing open hats while your left foot is on the second bass pedal, kills this idea. But yes, if you play single bass, this is a good idea

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 3 роки тому +20

      There's so much loud guitar in metal you're not going to hear any kind of "chick" sound anyways. If you look at this as a waste to learn then you need to expand your musical library. A drummer should be able to at least play a little bit of all kinds of styles. It's amazing how much it changes the music when adding different flavor of styles.

    • @drmroneal
      @drmroneal 3 роки тому +41

      Joe Troutt i play drums professionally. I’m 100% aware of what genres require different equipment positioning. You would think metal doesn’t require the “chic” sound from a hihat but that is only for death/ black metal. Just because you have a double bass pedal doesn’t mean you play metal. The confusion of double bass automatically meaning metal is the problem. “Perfect circle” is one example of precision hihat work/control with a double bass pedal. The term “mistake” in the title is slightly ignorant

    • @nikhoupt9963
      @nikhoupt9963 3 роки тому +16

      I'm also a metal drummer, thinking the same thing. If you are playing a driving, steady double kick beat, while driving on the hats, you cannot set the hats that wide open.
      If you did it would wash everything else out.
      If I were a primarily single bass drummer, this would definitely be ideal.
      The guy mentioned APC above. While I love that band, the drummer rarely drives on double kick, if ever.
      It absolutely depends on the genre that you play. 100%

    • @benjiwill
      @benjiwill 3 роки тому +12

      @@nikhoupt9963 genuinely curious, Is a drop clutch not a thing any more? I haven't played double kick drumming in years now, but that's what I used to do.

    • @chadkent1241
      @chadkent1241 3 роки тому +6

      @@benjiwill It is still a thing but a lot of lazy drummers won't use it

  • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
    @PNW_Sportbike_Life 3 роки тому +153

    Hmmm, to each there own. I keep mine a bit closer because that’s what I do. You can’t throw out generalizations for music my friend

    • @nomanshigh3058
      @nomanshigh3058 3 роки тому +8

      Yea there's loads of cool reasons to have them set all kinds of ways. I change mine all the time depending what I'm after. He's not usually so be end all with his wording. I'm sure he'd agree with you though.

    • @davewalker3873
      @davewalker3873 3 роки тому +2

      I have my hats close but they are a bit bright so i get that nice sound and volume. It depends on the hi hat, obv this dudes are a bit dry and quite.

    • @DorianTMChannel
      @DorianTMChannel 3 роки тому +1

      I keep mine close so that they decay faster when I'm playing double pedal

    • @davewalker3873
      @davewalker3873 3 роки тому +2

      @@DorianTMChannel ive got a pearl clutch that you hit with a stick and the top hat drops. Its a nice inbetween sound. To re engage the clutch you just put your foot on the pedal and it re engages.

    • @DorianTMChannel
      @DorianTMChannel 3 роки тому +1

      @@davewalker3873 Nice, I'll have to check that out

  • @ericredlefsen5554
    @ericredlefsen5554 3 роки тому +22

    Always a good idea to keep the wingnut swung around to the back position so you don't accidentally hit it and loosen the top cymbal while tracking or playing live.

    • @danmaltby3271
      @danmaltby3271 Рік тому

      I agree’s he’s not too wordy , not showing off Trying to prove to us that he’s Phil Collins and Neil Peart all in one with a flair of John Bonham your other high hat video really kind of opened a lot for me

  • @kekw5357
    @kekw5357 3 роки тому +1

    hi Stephen, i just recently discovered your channel, and I can't simply thank you enough for the tips and information you give. If you are reading this, just wanted to say huge thank you, and thanks to you, I have regained my motivation to working on my techniques!

  • @patrickmcginn4435
    @patrickmcginn4435 3 роки тому +62

    Dude love your videos. You give the most advice in a humble, understated way. The drumming community needs more of that.

    • @dr.timschurig234
      @dr.timschurig234 3 роки тому +2

      You are right. Clear information instead of super fast stuff, that is what we need.

  • @rothhartman8924
    @rothhartman8924 3 роки тому +49

    I have to say it depends on how you play, what sounds you're looking for, and what genre you play. This doesn't work for metal drummers who use lots of double bass.

    • @prizefighter7607
      @prizefighter7607 3 роки тому +3

      Also matters what kind of hats you have. Some hats have really clear chick sound even when spaced close together, while some hats spaced like he suggests in the video don't have a clear and cutting chick.

  • @tristanmouton5055
    @tristanmouton5055 2 роки тому

    Love your stuff man, 2 videos in and this self taught drummer has learnt a load of tips. This hat trick is going to awaken my left foot to more sonic properties and possibilities. I'm also keen to social distance myself a bit from the kit to try and better my kick technique. Thank you for your time and effort my brother.

  • @Jordan-zt6jq
    @Jordan-zt6jq 3 роки тому +3

    I love the end when you show us how great it sounds

  • @simonblanjean6538
    @simonblanjean6538 3 роки тому +1

    I just did that yesterday because I like to experiment and thought it would be better for left foot exercises and now I feel validated.

  • @donzelsq
    @donzelsq 3 роки тому +2

    A lot of people here seem eager to bash on the title. I too was skeptical at first but you actually shed some new light on a technique that I hadn’t ever put much thought into. Adding layers of openness to the hat is a musical game changer. Thank you!

  • @stm7601
    @stm7601 3 роки тому

    This video and the pdf that you gave out for free will help me a lot for sure. Thank you!😊

  • @stevematin6050
    @stevematin6050 3 роки тому +75

    With double bass, you'll just have a louder ring from the hats -- to each their own dawg

    • @kylanrushing8830
      @kylanrushing8830 3 роки тому

      That's what I said

    • @legaleagle6139
      @legaleagle6139 3 роки тому +2

      I have a second hi hat on other side with a cable pedal next to my bass drum. I use it with less spaced cymbals when using double bass

    • @mikeurbanmu
      @mikeurbanmu 3 роки тому +4

      Get a hi-hat clutch

    • @legaleagle6139
      @legaleagle6139 3 роки тому

      @@mikeurbanmu I also have a clutch

    • @paulocardosodrums
      @paulocardosodrums 3 роки тому +1

      All depends on what you’re playing. If you use a double bass drum pedal and want to have that nice washy sound while playing a busy double bass pattern, you simply cannot have the hi hats open like that.
      Yes one can say get a drop clutch.... yeah but.... not the same sound as just having them open but almost touching each other.
      Different strokes for different folks I guess.

  • @jameswallace5967
    @jameswallace5967 3 роки тому +7

    I love how Ringo played his hi hats. He could make them sound like a sizzle cymbal.

    • @ivancortina4398
      @ivancortina4398 3 роки тому

      He had those 15 inch high hats that helped out with that sound 👍

    • @chrisharding5447
      @chrisharding5447 3 роки тому

      Funny you mention ringo- he might have mentioned not hitting the hats at all- a very particular thing Charlie watts does.. guess its a bit off topic..

  • @4thStump
    @4thStump 3 роки тому

    Awesome ....my son loves the drums and your videos makes ironing out his bad habits easier......👍

  • @paulbatlan6584
    @paulbatlan6584 3 роки тому

    Thanks Steve. You answered several hi hat setup and playing questions I had with this vid.

  • @jayuihlein1664
    @jayuihlein1664 3 роки тому +3

    Great teacher....Been playing for many decades, and he always teaches me something new----stuff I should have known a long time ago. Thank you, Stephen.

  • @danmaltby3271
    @danmaltby3271 Рік тому +1

    I love your lessons buddy I’m a self-taught drummer and I kind of just stumbled on that loosening up of the top hi hat I just stumbled on that and wasn’t sure if it was the right thing to do but it to me it just sounded better and then when I saw your video on it did that actually it was cool because it like confirmed what my ears told me I’m a guitar player turn drummer just recording and stuff but I found that I was just playing the same old stuff on the guitar so taking a couple years off and just concentrating on drumming was probably the best thing I ever did for my guitar playing but it is amazing to any drummers out there I find it just amazing the amount of intricacy in the hi hat, My favorite part of the whole drummer ensemble tool kit

  • @rickynance377
    @rickynance377 3 роки тому

    I tried it , it definitely added more contrast to my playing

  • @bills4983
    @bills4983 3 роки тому +97

    If you are measuring the distance between your hats, STOP.
    Vibe, have fun and make cool sounds. Percussion is the shit because the sounds we produce don't have to sound any sort of way. Practice your rudiments, learn independence and appreciate what videos like this are teaching you, but don't forget to laugh at content creators when they tell you that you are making noise incorrectly.

    • @chinmeysway
      @chinmeysway 3 роки тому +1

      Total!!!!!

    • @jonpryor2656
      @jonpryor2656 3 роки тому

      It IS possible for you noise to sound like utter shit. To virtually everyone.

    • @ThatMattGoodMusic
      @ThatMattGoodMusic 3 роки тому +1

      I don't think it's outright wrong, but considering opening up this space gives you the opportunity to explore the sounds he talks about

    • @davewalker3873
      @davewalker3873 3 роки тому

      Well said.

    • @bernardtapie1092
      @bernardtapie1092 3 роки тому

      You have to be in tune at least

  • @cindybucholz8092
    @cindybucholz8092 Рік тому

    Wow!!!!! So many cool fills!!!! Great sound on the hi hat that it’s opened more!!!!!

  • @abrotherinchrist
    @abrotherinchrist 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing this. I've been having to lift my foot all the way and with this I will be able to feel the beat more without having to over-react. Someone else commented here that making rules is bad for playing drums. I disagree. Having limits and confines is what practice is - focusing on specific things in your playing, learning to be more flexible and acquiring new techniques. Then you can switch techniques at will. Also, learning rules allows you to break them once you have mastered them. I do get what he means though. You don't want to limit your ability to develop a style, otherwise you'll wind up sounding like your teachers and favorite drummers. I suppose there's a balance between innovation and tradition.

  • @yidakiman5545
    @yidakiman5545 6 днів тому

    I loved the grooves that you played as examples

  • @RyanAlexanderBloom
    @RyanAlexanderBloom 3 роки тому +45

    I do literally the opposite of everything you say in the first 3 minutes of this video. Not because anything you say is wrong, but because none of it meshes with the sound I’m looking for. As a metal drummer I don’t need chick so much as a good open sound during double kick. Yes, I own a drop clutch. But it’s just not worth the effort to use one. When I do play other music, I do open the hats up a bit more on the stand but I think that the hats should get progressively closer together on open sizzle sounds. That progressively opening sound is awful to my ear. It’s all about timing and precision foot movement to shape the sizzle open sound to your liking. It depends on what you’re doing. Generally people’s hat sound is bad not because of a setting, but because their foot opens and closes the cymbals out of time. Too early, too late, one of each in either order... that really ruins the sound.

    • @katiem4935
      @katiem4935 3 роки тому +5

      Completely agree, I'm the same👍

  • @ojfiala7323
    @ojfiala7323 3 роки тому +1

    Bro!!! That was amazing thank you!!

  • @mikosoft
    @mikosoft 3 роки тому +2

    I watched the older video on setting up the hats, especially the angle. I thought that it wouldn't make much difference but man. Together with that sucking technique even tough I didn't really do anything differently the open sound was immediately better.

  • @kp6880
    @kp6880 2 роки тому

    Great video. How does one get rid of a whining ring when playing with sticks on the hi hat? Like in a bossa? Do I just need better quality cymbals?

  • @Big_C_4205
    @Big_C_4205 3 роки тому +4

    Ooh, cool Tom groove at the end there. I’ve gotta try incorporating the hi hat with the toms!

  • @nurk_barry
    @nurk_barry 3 роки тому +2

    I’ve been doing the opposite where I leave them just open enough to play an open hi hat sound with my foot OFF the pedal, so I can play the second bass pedal and hit open hi hats then still play closed when I need it. Mostly for hard rock or punk. Thanks for the video!

  • @billymakesmusic
    @billymakesmusic 3 роки тому +15

    I play in a very soft environment playing jazz & soft rock much softer than your demonstration. I use about 1/2” to 3/4” gap which allows me to play time very effectively and keep the volume at an acceptable level. If I used what you recommend 1.5” the volume of that much gap would not work and it would wear my leg out trying to control the volume with the technique I use. I like the one sound you get by opening up the hat wider after the attack.

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  3 роки тому +10

      Keep in mind that just because it's adjusted with a 1"+ space doesn't mean I open it all the way between foot chicks. The idea is versatility, and if I'm playing quietly I'm lightly bouncing my foot on the pedal so that the hats barely open in between notes. The big idea here is versatility - being able to go from quiet to loud instantly if you need to. I totally see what you're talking about, though, and opening wider might be a bit of a stretch if you aren't used to it. Try it out, though, and see if you're able to widen your dynamics! :)

    • @billymakesmusic
      @billymakesmusic 3 роки тому +2

      Stephen Clark I’ll play around with it. Thanks so much!

  • @AdamSupremeWisdom
    @AdamSupremeWisdom 3 роки тому

    This is what I needed to see. Thanks, for sharing. -Adam

  • @VaughnDJs
    @VaughnDJs 3 роки тому +1

    You said it at the very beginning, my biggest reason personally for space was keeping time with a big band having to stomp out 2 & 4 distinctly but you also said there's no hard fast rule so those who protested maybe didn't listen closely. Every time I play someone else's set I have to open the hats up about an inch

  • @thedisappointmentsUK
    @thedisappointmentsUK 2 роки тому

    Excellent, as always.

  • @davideisenhardt9939
    @davideisenhardt9939 3 роки тому

    I appreciate your perspectives and tips. What vintage are your K Customs? Great sounding hats.

  • @wolfgangbuck3632
    @wolfgangbuck3632 3 роки тому +20

    Nah, I like mine just barely touching when playing. It's all about the Sound to me.
    "If it sounds right and feels right, play it"-James Brown
    But thank you anyway Stephen!👍👍

  • @NothusDeusVagus
    @NothusDeusVagus 3 роки тому

    those toms certainly compliment each other... very nice.

  • @johnkracy9190
    @johnkracy9190 3 роки тому

    Thank you Stephen.

  • @renjo12
    @renjo12 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you, gave me more freedom on the drum's. Thank you... R3N

  • @lisahammond161
    @lisahammond161 3 роки тому

    Awesome techniques, I learned alot here, thanx.

  • @jo8hua86
    @jo8hua86 Рік тому +1

    Everyone has there own style of course but I appreciated this video because I haven’t played in almost 15 years. Just getting back into it and while I remember basics I also forgot a lot of stuff to. I’m
    Re watching a lot of technique videos to properly set up my stuff and find what works for me. I forgot until I watched this video I did normally space mine about an inch lol

  • @JustinAdie1
    @JustinAdie1 3 роки тому +11

    It really depends on what you’re trying to play. Similar to how some people prefer matched vs traditional grip.

    • @voronOsphere
      @voronOsphere 3 роки тому +3

      .....or Lo Throne or Hi Throne....

  • @EllisG123
    @EllisG123 3 роки тому

    Defo useful for single kick players.. but really I feel it depends on what you are playing to. Good to have more sounds available 👌👌

  • @underpressureman
    @underpressureman 3 роки тому

    So to get the angle on the bottom hat is it just a matter of loosening it abit? Can you maybe do a video on how you do it properly? I enjoyed this video, thanks man!

  • @kengilmore23
    @kengilmore23 3 роки тому +2

    Depends on the vibe. I move it around. He's right, though about more possibilities if you want them.

  • @SolomonsWorks
    @SolomonsWorks 3 роки тому

    Good tips, ill give it a try. Odd how so many people are saying you shouldn't tell people what to do. They can just...choose not to do it? Good video.

  • @nathanielnicholson559
    @nathanielnicholson559 3 роки тому

    I was ready to object, but I like these textures. Gonna try it, Greta.

  • @JohnDavid-ko5qc
    @JohnDavid-ko5qc 3 роки тому

    Always great videos. Reason why I subscribe

  • @jamiemcparland
    @jamiemcparland 3 роки тому

    I really like your channel man.

  • @ricardotrevino6576
    @ricardotrevino6576 3 роки тому

    GREAT advice Man.

  • @malinwj1167
    @malinwj1167 3 роки тому +5

    Have always played my hats with less space. Have tried the more space thing, but feel like I have to use more leg energy to push down on the pedal to keep closed, and that is not efficient (IMHO).

  • @gudjongd
    @gudjongd 3 роки тому

    Great lessons like always....

  • @tfortinater
    @tfortinater 3 роки тому

    Quick question. I'm usually using a double bass pedal most of the songs. What would be a good spacing for my hats if I can't keep em that open?

  • @joshuaphillips3491
    @joshuaphillips3491 3 роки тому +5

    I think this is super interesting! Though, I don’t know that this applies as well to double-bass players, as having that wide gap the entire time when trying to play the hi-hat at the same time as using both feet for the bass drum likely wouldn’t sound as nice.

    • @Inklessemissaries
      @Inklessemissaries 3 роки тому +1

      True, unless you have a second pair of hats somewhere...

  • @jasonlax2102
    @jasonlax2102 7 місяців тому +1

    This is a game changer

  • @gaia38ant
    @gaia38ant 3 роки тому +20

    I don't agree it has been taugh to me it is only a matter of preference. Prove me wrong but I like the way it is now why would I change ?

    • @mikestein1024
      @mikestein1024 3 роки тому +6

      Antoine Grand I agree man I’m the same way and I cannot stand the overly splashing hats it’s all preference when it comes to art

    • @andyham6094
      @andyham6094 3 роки тому +7

      Exactly. There is no right or wrong. I totally disagree with this video. Do whatever you find most comfortable and whatever gets the sounds that you want to express.

    • @izzimichaels2892
      @izzimichaels2892 3 роки тому +2

      what works, is what works for you. i prefer my bottom hi hat cymbal tilted.

  • @jakegodman
    @jakegodman 3 роки тому +3

    Here’s the thing. I know this is gonna sound lazy, but hey whatever. I keep about a 1/4” - 1/2” space between the top and bottom. Reason being, is I don’t want to have to work to keep my hats closed. With 1/4”- 1/2” spacing, All I have to do is Use the weight of my foot to keep the hats closed. I don’t want to have to focus on keeping them closed while trying to groove.

  • @oscar.freites
    @oscar.freites 3 роки тому +7

    That's the Eric Singer's hi-hat sound secret... I love his hi-hat technique.

    • @Damage_Kase_99
      @Damage_Kase_99 3 роки тому +1

      Did he use that technique on Seventh Star and The Eternal Idol?

    • @oscar.freites
      @oscar.freites 3 роки тому

      @@Damage_Kase_99 That's right!

    • @oscar.freites
      @oscar.freites 3 роки тому

      I love Seventh Star, nice one, nice performance.

  • @iansummers5499
    @iansummers5499 3 роки тому

    Insightful. Dig it

  • @simonilett998
    @simonilett998 3 роки тому +1

    @Stephen Clark I prefer my hats a bit closer together, just that it feels more comfortable and I seem to have more control, although I'm more of a heavy rock or funk inspired drummer so it suits my styles better. A little off topic, you mentioned Paul Mabury, I'm not surprised he's doing well on the drum scene...I live in Perth W.Australia and I went to high school with Paul in the early 90's, he's 2 years older than me, and was a pretty good drummer back then too. We both had the same drum teacher at school. Paul's father is still a very respected guy over here too, who hosted a late night radio show for many years back in the early 90's, he would give people a lot of good advice. I still remember being interviewed by him for a school thing on-air one evening when I was in year 9...I believe he's now back on air...Anyway, just a bit of random trivia...lol👍🇦🇺

  • @Quintastisch
    @Quintastisch 3 роки тому

    How long do you play with your sticks and heads?

  • @drewper73
    @drewper73 3 роки тому +1

    For over 20 years now I’ve always kept my top hi-hat very tight. The main reason for this is when I first got a set of drums I would try to adjust the clutch to make the top hi-hat a little looser but after a half hour of playing, the nuts that held the top cymbal would work themselves loose and the clutch would come apart. So, as a result of teenage impatience I resorted to tightening the nut on the under side of the cymbal as tight as I could and I would do the same with the two nuts on the top side. Over the years I found that I prefer it tight because I think it gives me more control than I would have if the top cymbal was too sloshy. I noticed that your top hat was just loose enough to move ever so slightly. I think if I used a heavier top hat then I’d play with it looser than I have it now. Any thoughts?

    • @macadoo2530
      @macadoo2530 Рік тому

      Hi I read your question to Stephen.
      What I can tell you for sure is overtightening your hi hat clutch is bad for the cymbal and could lead to cracking eventually. There are many locking clutches available now that prevent loosening.
      Gibraltar makes a good one.
      Cheers!

  • @kerryprance3767
    @kerryprance3767 2 роки тому

    I started playing drums in 1966 at age 12. In the early 70's I would sit behind and between Butch Trucks and Jaimoe Johanson when a unknown band from Macon called " The Allman Brothers" would play for free on Sundays in Peidmont Park. ... SO..... I was fascinated by their great " hat " sounds. The secret? They used 16 inch hats. As I do now. Any thoughts on 16" hats?

  • @55baltimoreboy
    @55baltimoreboy 3 роки тому

    Good advice !!!!

  • @kaiul2967
    @kaiul2967 3 роки тому

    I adjust mine all the time depending on what style I intend to play. Usually closer when playing rock or metal and more open when playing Jazz, fusion or hip-hop

  • @larryajackson4882
    @larryajackson4882 3 роки тому

    Good point!

  • @shanom
    @shanom 3 роки тому

    Interesting! Thanks 🙏🏻

  • @soulamouri
    @soulamouri 6 місяців тому

    Thank u man❤

  • @matthewbreeden7748
    @matthewbreeden7748 Рік тому

    I’m having a problem where my bottom hat slides and I end up getting a quarter of an inch of over lap from the bottom hat where I would usually hit them any bell fixing this would be greatly appreciated

  • @owoeyegbemileke2407
    @owoeyegbemileke2407 3 роки тому

    Cool stuff there

  • @alvaroruizruiz7538
    @alvaroruizruiz7538 3 роки тому +1

    A nicely open and not so tight hi hat will get u its greatest sound and volume, but sometimes u may need to do the opposite to get the volume down, it depends on the gig, the room, the band... So take that into consideration. Also if you play double bass u may tighten it up depending on how u want it to sound in that particular song.

  • @hoover8699
    @hoover8699 3 роки тому

    Thank You

  • @brendanmcg8566
    @brendanmcg8566 3 роки тому

    I've definitely overlooked this 10+ years lol

  • @gordonruthpanther1259
    @gordonruthpanther1259 3 роки тому

    Oops! I always set my HHs intentionally //really close// - because that makes them quieter! I am still a bit of a noob and mostly play on an electro kit though, if that provides some small semblance of defence. But this video explains things well and I shall be setting them wider in future. I still have an innate 'fear' in my drumming, of hurting people's eardrums. Metal kits' High Hats sound so loud when playing them, compared to bass, toms and cymbals, and I don't know how loud it remains by the time it gets away from the kit. I don't have these concerns with an electric kit and headphones/amp.
    Anyway, thanks for the lesson, I am going to try it out next time I am on a metal kit! I can see it will give a lot more control and those whooshing notes. I do need to get my left foot going more.

  • @carlupthegrove262
    @carlupthegrove262 3 роки тому +2

    Really good video I believe many of us neglect our left foot and do really use the hi-hat to full advantage. Thanks

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinder 3 роки тому +1

    Great video as always!
    I’ve often wondered about this subject Because lotsa folks tell me I have my hats too closed
    What I do is I’ll put merely the weight of my left foot (I’m a right hand drummer) on the hi-hat pedal & then I tighten the clutch.
    Simple!
    I like the consistency of the notes/the hiss & I barely have to lift my foot AT ALL!
    Of course this means I cannot make the “stamping on the Hat pedal clash sound“ BUT how often do we need that sound and the payoff is no wear&tear or effort for my weakest foot (I’m very right footed!) but I do sometimes wonder if I’ve got into a bad habit with all this?
    Basically my hats look the polar opposite of yours but am I really doing something wrong? If I am I want to address this as soon as possible!

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  3 роки тому +1

      All depends on whether you want to get that "sucking sound" or not - or whether you want the capability of playing a loud "sizzle sound" with your foot. For me it's all about versatility - that's the ultimate purpose behind opening wider. Hey shoot me an email with a pic of your hats. I've love to check out your setup a little more.

    • @BeesWaxMinder
      @BeesWaxMinder 3 роки тому

      Stephen Clark
      Thanks for your reply...
      Not sure how to email you but Open & then Closed Photos of my Hats and also of my Foot would look exactly the same! Which I suppose is my point Im trying to make…
      Maybe I can do a video; post it on UA-cam and send you the link?

    • @RyderHueyMusic
      @RyderHueyMusic 3 роки тому +1

      That click sound is definitely essential as a drummer. Anything in the funk, jazz, fusion, r&b, and even rock, you want that sound available. You can't play jazz without it, at all. In a band setting that hi hat click can be what keeps everyone tight, even more so if it's a weird kind of groove. And no wear and on your foot is just called being lazy. You're basically giving up a limb that you could be playing with because you don't want to be bothered. Sure, you can play however you want and if you don't really want that sound available, fine. There is no right or wrong when it comes to music. But you're going to severely limit yourself by ignoring your left foot and ignoring the versatility of hi hats. Hi hats are so much more than something you hit four or eight times in a measure as a time keeping element; they can be almost melodic in their expression if you really get to know all that they can do.

    • @joanbighorn9778
      @joanbighorn9778 3 роки тому +1

      Ryder Huey Imagine being this elitist over 0.5 inches.

    • @BeesWaxMinder
      @BeesWaxMinder 3 роки тому

      Stephen Clark
      OK done a video to ‘explain’ it
      ua-cam.com/video/dhSfMYmNSjA/v-deo.html
      Thanks for taking the time to look at this as IF I’m in a bad habit/ruT then the sooner I know how to get out of it the better!!
      I’ve been doing it this way for many years, as I say, & the reason I did it was that I rarely play jazz so timekeeping using hats on the left foot only was not really a concern but what was a concern was efficiency of movement, as it were.
      Let me know what you think…?

  • @joeyjordison61
    @joeyjordison61 3 роки тому

    the unsung hero here is that snare

  • @lorislaruedrummer6739
    @lorislaruedrummer6739 3 роки тому

    I kinda agree with you and used to do this, but I switched to double pédal, you have to forget it, of buy some pretty expensive accesoiies to achieve this

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  3 роки тому

      I think it's all about priorities sometimes. :) I pretty much never play with a double pedal so that I can devote my left foot to hihat. But I don't ever play with metal bands, so I'm not one to offer advice on figuring that all out, haha. If you need the double pedal, do it! Just decide what's most important for you in your playing.

    • @joanbighorn9778
      @joanbighorn9778 3 роки тому

      Stephen Clark I think the title of the video needs to be changed because it’s honestly just clickbait that implies that one method is objectively wrong, and with everything I’ve heard from you over the years I think it’s weak hearing you make such an objective statement regarding low hi-hat height and drummers who prefer that sound.

  • @francisgarciar.4583
    @francisgarciar.4583 3 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @Blibby-Blobby
    @Blibby-Blobby 3 роки тому

    It's not wrong it's a choice.
    I play with double kicks and an extra sample pad pedal for cow bells, tambourines.
    I some times play both extra pedals while still holding down the hit hat ie heel left and right of hit hat pedal with only the ball of my foot holding it closed.
    Your technique would require way to much pressure to keep it closed correctly or be way to slow to push chokes.
    As far as the sound is concerned just move stick a little more to the middle so as you open very slowly. The sizzle is created by the edges colliding but the sustain effect is still as you open it.
    It's an interesting approach and I recommend everyone play around with it AND hi hat stand spring tension.
    Get to know your instrument

  • @nathanwalsh3028
    @nathanwalsh3028 3 роки тому

    Great point about spacing. On the opposit side guys like Clyde stubblefield or even modern guys like Adam deitch prefer very small spacing so they can do quick barks especially when playing with horns. I am a fan of having them spaced pretty far apart that way I get a nice chick and at the same time I feel like I have more control.

  • @dave8171
    @dave8171 3 роки тому

    What do I do when I’m grooving on open hats and playing double bass?

  • @famitory
    @famitory 3 роки тому +1

    i intentionally keep my hats way closer together than this thumbnail (like 1/16", barely open) for a few reasons:
    1. in drum&bass/jungle you never really want to open the hats all the way for any reason, it just isn't a sound that gets used. in some songs the hats are solidly closed the entire way through
    2. because the hats are always close miked (and i mean close, like barely not hitting the cymbals), you can make the foot chick as loud or quiet as you need in the mix, but usually you want it quiet as a little bit of extra spice during a ride section or while using one or more X-hats.
    3. frankly i find having a hihat that goes everywhere uncomfortable and uncontrollable. it's like having a bird tied to your foot trying to get away.
    also, i personally just really don't like the sound of most open hihats when they're more than 1/4" open. the only real exception i can think of is the meinl sand hats. they sound, for lack of a better analogy, like the included drum sounds on a generic ROMpler keyboard

  • @mattjns
    @mattjns 3 роки тому +5

    4:10 can confirm, headphones on, eyes closed.....apart from the first “wrong” beat....couldn’t hear the difference. 😂

    • @houstonmolinar3231
      @houstonmolinar3231 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I noticed the same thing!

    • @katiem4935
      @katiem4935 3 роки тому

      Yeah lol😂 And if anything, the second one actually sounded a bit better to me haha

    • @drewmckee510
      @drewmckee510 3 роки тому

      @@katiem4935 same 😂😂😂

  • @kefka4203
    @kefka4203 3 роки тому

    Do you ever do studio work for other artists?

  • @_stardust62
    @_stardust62 3 роки тому +1

    I love the chick sound from the rippled bottom hats, like the Mastersounds or the Paiste Sound edge like JHB used, nice chick every time!

  • @CromTuise
    @CromTuise 3 роки тому

    Not to retread the same double bass thing, but could you make a vid where you incorporate this into double bass playing?
    Sean Reinert in his Evolutionary Sleeper playthrough video does some spectacular hi-hat work in double bass, for an example to see.
    So while I don’t want to say you’re wrong, you’re not completely right.

  • @vudaltsov
    @vudaltsov 3 роки тому +2

    I set my hi-hat so that when I hit the bass pedal and hi-hat pedal at the same time, they make sound simultaneously. This way I don't have a flam when both hits land on the same note.

  • @DwightLFrias
    @DwightLFrias 3 роки тому +1

    For some reason my top hi hat is sideways and the part that faces away from me is closer to the under one that the part that faces me (i guess its the clutch but im not sure)

  • @juanpabloaraujoarraga9398
    @juanpabloaraujoarraga9398 3 роки тому

    i think thats a matter of personal taste in some cases, what if someone doesnt like that open space, it depends on the music too, but it is usefull to have it open as well, in jazz mostly to keep that breathing feel

  • @prof_danieladewole
    @prof_danieladewole 3 роки тому

    Please what's that stuff on your snare and what's the use?

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  3 роки тому

      Video coming up in a few weeks about that. :)

  • @Darkbox11
    @Darkbox11 3 роки тому

    Buen consejo; siempre hay que pensar en sonar musicalmente chingón 👌🏾👍🏽

  • @juanjosebusnelli390
    @juanjosebusnelli390 2 роки тому

    "I can feel it when i hit it" I feel that bro

  • @adamcotton2121
    @adamcotton2121 6 місяців тому

    Fascinating. And I'm a string player.

  • @ChrisAirsoft556
    @ChrisAirsoft556 28 днів тому

    I lightly put just the weight of my foot on the untightened hi-hats and then slightly raise them before tightening to keep them comfortable

  • @Mezziah777
    @Mezziah777 3 роки тому

    I only have about 7 or 8 millimeter gap when I play and I have no problems getting that sucking sound. I can't have it more open than that anyway since I play a lot of double bass meaning I can't have my foot on the hi-hat.

  • @voronOsphere
    @voronOsphere 3 роки тому +1

    I'm at about an inch (maybe 3/4), but I've never run in to those problems. I don't play as loud as many drummers do (even though I play a blend of Funk, Rock & Metal), so maybe that's why my time-keeping "chick" never sounds weak. I have a tendency for tendonitis, so playing a little quieter and employing Economy of Motion tactics is crucial for my personal approach. Sounds great how you're using that spacing, though.

  • @AdamFaulkner375
    @AdamFaulkner375 3 роки тому

    Some cool techniques that I'm interested to try. But it's not gonna work when I'm playing double bass.

  • @SciaticaDrums
    @SciaticaDrums 3 роки тому

    I play a lot of double bass metal. My hi hats are only about an 1/8 of an inch on the outside and closed on the inside, towards me. Why? Economy of movement. Control. Getting a great open hihat sound without having to have my foot on the hihat pedal. In fact I went a step further, if I want a closed hihat sound during a double bass part I have a second set of hihats for it if I want to. Plus with two pairs of hihats both open, and with 14" and 15" hats, I can change the entire feel of a part by switching off to the other set.

  • @jacko222333
    @jacko222333 2 місяці тому

    You should keep the hats more open so the foot doesn't have to always be held up, creating tension. Just step on the hihat, relax the foot and then lift up a quarter inch. You will be in the perfect position. The foot will be relaxed, and your control and volume will be instantly improved. Keeping the hats close together may look cool, like a flying saucer, but musically its not pertinent. Buddy Rich always had his in the position I described at the beginning of this paragraph. He did it for a reason. He was there when the hihat was invented.

  • @dr.timschurig234
    @dr.timschurig234 3 роки тому +1

    This guy highlights details that are often overlooked. Every beginner and even more experienced drummers greatly benefit from that, because his presentations are easy to follow although the covered tropics are much harder then they seem to be in the first place. Great work!