Hang Gliding crash - A tree saved my life - 4K
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2022
- On my Hang Gliding course - 2nd high launch flight - had winds of 30-35 kph. Tried to turn right above a valley when a down wind dragged me into a down spiral, a total loss of control.
Luckily lodged into an olive tree, came out without minor ache in the back.
Taken from Insta360 One X2.
Edited to view front - Спорт
Hey man. I'm glad that you survived. Man. I couldn't believe when you tried another 360° turn at that altitude. You are lucky to be alive man. Never turn 360 at low altitude! I think this kind of accidents happen when you are learning. U are lucky that you didn't hit your head man. I had an accident paragliding a few months ago and I hited my head and I have amnesia of that day! Every single day after an incident is a gift bro. I'm going to fly back in two more months! XD
Never fly in such high winds as a new pilot on a single surface. These things are common wisdom in the hg/pg community. Stay within your skill level. 25kph max winds for your fist 40hours
Those winds look terrifying for a second high launch ON A COURSE! So glad you made it out okay.
Thanks for sharing this video with the community 🙏!
"On my Hang Gliding course - 2nd high launch flight " Who the **** did you have as instructor? Cound be great info so other can avoid the person.
Exactly. It’s almost to the point his instructor tried to get him killed 😳
Turning low over a cut in the soarable rim will most often accelerate the wind speed within the cut/saddle. Mini wind shears will lurk along with turbulence. So as not to get sucked into a Venturi cross the cut/saddle further out front in the ridge lift. Or wait for more altitude before crossing.
right wing stall , induced by sharp right turn , you lucky that tree was there. could of been much worse . glad you ok
There's some opportunity to learn here.
Even though this did go well there are some things that should be praised: Your launch is smooth and controlled and you wait till you are clear of the ground before going prone. Even though you got overpowered and ended up crashing, you tried to fly the glider the whole time, if something didn't work then you tried something else, that is the right way!
That harness is not ideal. It is too big for you and the single suspension with the backplate probably makes it more demanding than the glider, it is also heavy. If you can, change to a simpler beginner harness while you learn, when you want to upgrade get an advanced harness that fits.
This is the start of the challenging part of the day. For only your 2nd high flight it would be much better to launch either earlier before thermal conditions get strong, or closer to the evening where conditions will be smoother. This would not have happened in a calmer part of the day. You just need more experience and time to learn how to better control the glider and react. On your next flights you should insist on flying mid-morning or closer to evening, once you get a better feel for flying at these times then you can start working towards flying in these or stronger conditions. You simply did not have the experience or perfected the technique enough to deal with this situation, but you will.
I also saw the 360 video. It looks like you are moving your shoulders more than your body and your arms are tense. You started a right turn well, but your technique wasn't good enough to turn you left. It was classic cross controlling and your motions cancelled each other so that nothing happened. When you couldn't turn left (and this is because you did not move your body weight over) -- Look at your body at 1:10, you are twisting your shoulders, but your hips and feet are still towards the right side, this will not turn the glider! -- then you changed to something you could do and turned right more, which was not a bad idea, but it was too much and you still were not able to move your weight to the left enough to turn left! On that very last turn just after you missed the tree you pushed out, this made you turn tighter but loose airspeed. On one hand this cost you any chance getting out of the turn, but probably saved you from hitting the light post (probably very bad) or hitting the ground or rocks (very bad), the tree was the safest thing to crash into. Lucky.
Work on your controls, improve your technique, and get more experience. Fly a lot in calmer conditions. Move your feet and hips to one side to turn, your weight has to move not just your head and shoulders. I saw you twisting your shoulders, work at twisting your whole body with your arms and keep your shoulders more neutral. Practice turning one way and then the other way. Do this at trim, do it while pushing out, do it while pulling in (and notice how much better you can turn while pulling in), spend time learning how the glider reacts and refine your controls. When you pull the bar in do not push down on the bar like doing pushups (I can see this in your video, it is because you got tense while this happened), instead pull the bar towards your belly. When you can turn precisely, then increase the turbulence. Sometimes it will be very strong and turning will be hard, but you will be much better at dealing with it.
Thank you for the very detailed analysis!
All fine observations Eridan, but you missed the main cause, he flew into a rotor, or at least the edge of one. NEVER fly low behind the ridge, especially in high wind. Equipment, skill or special technique will not change the fact that you are going for a ride over which you have NO control if you fly into a rotor.
I wish i could fly hang gliders too.What a valuable tips you’re giving in this comments.
Glad you ok. From what I see glider was flying way to slow. Speed = controls and safe handling and will get you out of a tight spot
despite the accident, never stop flying, big hug man!!
I don't have time for a paragraph, so I'll sum it up.
Need more instruction.
Needs more experience with more margin at a different time of day, and good discussion of the conditions and features of this flying site.
You walked away to fly another day 🙏😁
There appears to be a steep part of the ridge directly up wind of where you hit the olive tree. In a 30-35 kilometres of wind you appear to have been flying in rotor turbulence. Due to the strong wind gradient in these areas it is often best to avoid high banked turns as the reduced wind speed over the lower wing can increase the bank angle as the glider is spiraling down into the rotor.
Yup, rotor
@@davidmintun agree, but i didn't see him try to counter act....just went for the ride....
@@AlGaivotoPfarrhaus-Altersberg At that point, there is nothing you can do, rotors are no joke
Definitely not a rotor, the glider was flying exactly as expected given the inputs made. Further evidence is that we can hear the vario chirping normally until his massive input to the right caused him to turn aggressively in. We also know he was not in any notable amount of sink as the vario sink alarm didn't go off. On the initial turn to the right the left wing did look like it got lifted just a little, but the pilot made a very minimal cross controlling counter response.
In any case you're targeting the right spot... the graveyard!
360° at low altitude and near the relief ??? You are really, really a lucky person that you survived this!
The instructor should NEVER let you fly in those conditions until you have more experience. You are not ready for strong thermal conditions. It's so hard to tell in the video, but you could have pulled the bar in getting more speed. It's much easier to turn. Have you been taught the J turn? Not to cross steer?
Hi glad you made it out okay and sorry about your hang glider. I'm not a pilot yet but I would love to hear more detail on what happened and what might be done to keep control. Incredible video and glad you shared it to help others in the future.
Avoid turning into the mountain (thermaling close to terrain) until very experienced. Avoid thermal flying at all in the first flights, practice early morning or late afternoons, and coastal ridge flights if you can.
He flew too far behind the ridge, and flew into the rotor from the front ridge. Never go low behind the ridge in high wind. Remember your basic micro-meteorology. He were blessed, seems he was on the edge of the rotor, i watched a hang4 pilot pancaked onto the top of the ridge by a rotor, he forgot too. Control bar, both down tubes, punched a hole in the wing, and needed the hospital. If you learn this lesson, you are Blessed, if you haven't, or if you forget, it will happen to you.
His control inputs look fairly wrong, no pulling in for speed, possibly some cross controlling, etc. That said, it's his 2nd high altitude flight, who the fuck lets someone fly in 30-35kph wind on their second high alt flight? I'm skeptical that there was significant rotor here. The initial turn at 1:02 looked commanded to me, note the weight shift to the right. The wing may have gotten lifted some as well, but regardless counter inputs weren't made quickly, and at 1:08 we can see the glider righted itself somewhat, and the pilot is seen cross controlling and not really pushing his weight to the left. Additionally at this time we know the glider is not significantly descending because the vario is beeping on and off, the vario also has a sink alarm enabled and we don't hear that. Then at 1:11 the pilot does a major weight shift to the right while the glider is already turning to the right, and it predictably turns in sharply. I really don't see anything strange or unexpected with the gliders behavior relative to the pilots inputs.
That said, I *don't* blame the pilot, a 2nd high altitude flight should absolutely not be done with anything more than a light breeze. Even light turbulence harms the initial learning process, and if you don't have a good handle on how a glider flies in laminar conditions, then you can't have control in more active conditions.
It appears to me as if wind and possible turbulence exacerbates his right turn at around 1:04. At this point, it looks like he attempts to correct, but is cross controlling, thus he stays in an increasingly aggressive right turn. At 1:11, he gives up on correcting the turn and leans into it (presumably to accelerate the turn and point back away from the mountain). The problem is now his turn is even sharper. Then at 1:21, he is pushing out instead of pulling in on the base tube. He would have needed to pull in aggressively on the base tube while shifting his entire body weight to the left to get out of the turn. Without pulling in on the base tube, he didn't have enough control authority to correct the turn. It appears to be several pilot errors starting at 1:04. The correct thing to do would have been to shift his weight to the left (without cross controlling) while pulling in on the base tube to increase speed and therefore control authority.
@@mbboisvert Yes I agree, as I mentioned I do think the left wing got lifted some. It was minor and correctable, but he was a very new pilot and this is why you don't send brand new pilots out in anything but laminar conditions. I totally reject the idea that this was some kind of overpowering lee rotor as some have suggested, or strong sink as the pilot suggested.
Ouch that must’ve hurt. I never crashed in a tree. I done paragliding for a long time, but I never had this happen.
I think the collision knocked the variometer and it switched to being an EKG.
saved by an olive tree !
As soon as he took off, I knew he was in trouble. Dude wasn't shifting his entire body weight from side to side, ie. he would shift his torso to the left, and his legs would swing to the right, and visa versa.
I saw the telephone lines it looks like pilot was confronted with. That turn right was only way out im thinking .
Unfortunately your instructor was wrong launching you with this speed wind. Some aspects need to be studied like rotor effect and how to evite this situation.
His instructor was wrong to launch him in any wind. Its the height that he is not ready for. He was scared.
Lucky you had that tree there! Glad you're ok. For as much as this video's POV is worth, I'd say that some more speed instead of turning right was safer. A 360 turn so low and right above the hill top with this wind speed means you'll end up in it's leeside almost certainly. But hey, I wasn't there. Best to discuss this with your instructor and work on a key lesson to avoid such accidents in the future. This doesn't look like a hard type of a flying site if you're just going for a glide. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Trees are like life savers in Disguise
Classic mistake. You are very lucky to get away with this...... Live and learn....
I think that tree saved him serious injury
I’m confused why are you still circling when altitude was so low? what was the objective there? When you can see the details in the grass below you it’s time to land. Glad you’re okay. Launch looked good.
The glider stalled and went into an uncontrolable spin. You can see him trying very hard to lean left to correct it but to no avail.
what was the speed? 40 km/h?
From the look of the terrain and wind strength that's not a beginners slope to be having a second high flight from. Lucky your ok. That downwind lock out comes in fast..
I wouldn't circle and turn into the hill at that low, turn toward the wind. glad that tree was there, it could be worse.
Exactly turnig in wind and way too low that not even birds do that that close to hills and this wing is static not like he can move wings to fly higher just plain missing any info on how fixed wing works
Was that a spiral dive got into?
Now what did that tree ever do to you? ;) Glad you're okay and able to continue to learn.
The turn was way too sharp. Lift was lost, resulting in crash. You had so many good landing areas, so why were you kissing the tree studded area?
Why? Was there someone you were flying with that you had to impress with your thermaling skills. You gave yourself absolutely no margin of safety. Yes, a bold maneuver to try to bench up the mountain with what’s being funneled up over the ridge but as someone pointed out the airflow flowing over the top of steep section just to the left probably would have a little fall off (rotor) back down towards the hill. Because of that there’s likely be some mixing, or turbulence. In other words air complex enough that even the best of pilots would be hard pressed to predict and fly within.
He wasn’t thermaling. He simply lost control. He never seemed to have control.
it says in the description he is a very new pilot. seems like poor instructor judgement considering the wind speed
I did something similar not long after I learned 30 years or so ago now. Don't feel to bad. It looked like you were cross controlling the glider I think. Body to the left, legs to the right, why it was not coming out of the turn. They are not really intuitive or easy things to fly hang gliders. It's easier to start with a paraglider.
Didn't look like you had loss of control, you intentionally kept spiralling.
I could see from the beginning that you have no a good control of the glider. You might could thinking in landing soon as your legs were not straight into the harness. Then I think you wanted to correct the first turn and you moved your body to the left, but not your legs to the same direction and also you did not speed up the glider at that time. Then I think what happened is that though it worth to keep in the turn but the inertial force of the previous turn and the turbulences close to the floor made you to lose the control. Glad you are fine, do not ever turn if you are below of the cliff and close to the mountain, make 8 turns instead, specially with that glider. We all had stuff like that so I wish you good luck and keep it learning!
Honestly this looked completly avoidable. Never roll in so low, specially if you are not getting lift and just dropping. Finally follow the ridge by always turning away from the hill not torwards the hill as a general rull unless you really have a safe margin which you didn't have at all. thanks for sharing
No experience ,wrong glider and turning low well be happy to be alive
Easy to talk about an accident afterwards, but serious comments should b wellcome.
Glad you made it, but you always flying in a pre stall position..
Hello Navad.... I see that you are still well. We are Joan & Adriana
REALLY bad flying !
Pilot hanging too high.
Pilot flying too slow.
Pilot flying in conditions that he was not prepared for.
For what it's worth. The pilot is not flying the hang glider, instead the hang glider is flying the pilot...a bag of sand instead of a pilot would have faired just the same. Points: Take off and landings are crucial skills that can't be overstated. The pilot should be in charge 100% of the time (except in case of equipment failure), anything other than that, and you'd be in trouble.
So lucky he hit the tree, not the mountain.
Hope hes fine!
It doesn’t help trying to land crosswind in a windward slope lift. While still high and infront of the road he could have just headed down slope to the flat fields below…why try to land on the slope at all?
En el 1:04 comienza el giro ... 1:13 inclina más su cuerpo a la derecha...ocea para el lado que está efectuando el giro... esto hace que acentue más el giro e incluso la pica un poco más... dándole un poco más de velocidad ... pero luego se ve que sólo la deja volar sin comando ... pero no se ve nada raro en el ala con respecto al viento ... el lugar se ve hermoso para el vuelo en ala !!! Si este comentario llega a el piloto ...quería decirte ...que bueno que fue leve el accidente ... Que no te asustes ni busques cosas raras en el viento.. o cosas que te sugestionen...sólo fue un par de malas maniobras !! Por ser un piloto nuevo ... pero con asistencia por radio con alguien que sepa leer y darce cuenta de ciertas situaciones ... No te debería volver a pasar !!! Así que vamos arriba .. esto sirve de experiencia para ti y para quienes estamos volando ... así a no aflojar y buenos vuelos !!!❤💪 saludos desde Uruguay!!
Hello Nadav Lavy, is it possible to contact you regarding this video (i.e. via email)? We would be interested to discuss a license to use this video if this is generally possible to discuss? :) Cheers, Felix
Sure. What email can I reach you at?
@@grnadav You can find our email on our channel's about section and in any of our video descriptions! :)
He's heading to a nice steep face and can probably play there for over an hour. He makes a right turn....oh no! he makes a right 360...oh no! another 360 behind that sweet steep face....tree. Looks like brainlock. What's up with flying a rotor harness so early in training? Slick harness on a single surface makes me giggle. Glad you're ok.
The strap you hang from is your yoke. You need to move your body weight (all of it) in the direction you want the yoke to control your flight.
You clearly zagged when you should’ve zigged. Happens to the best of us
when a down wind dragged me into a down spiral, a total loss of control
What is "Hand Gliding"?
@colin wright,
“Hand Gliding,” is when you have your hand out of the car window while doing 60 mph/100kph. ( says a 44 years of hang gliding pilot. )
Avoid that rotor spot like you're life depends on it..Give yourself some lee side room when milking ridge lift.
De haber picado en su primer giro ...No habría tenido problema ...e incluso en el segundo giro también tenía tiempo de corregir ...sin dudas es un piloto nuevo ... Si había comunicación por radio y lo estaban asistiendo ..tendrían que haberle dicho los comandos o lo que tenía que hacer para salir de esa situación ya que había bastante tiempo para hacerlo !!!
Glad you made out okay. I am noticing as a non pilot that a lot of the crashes come from low turns. Note taken. lol
Craches always happen when you are low near the ground. Nobody ever collided with high altitude space.
Way to soon for high mountain
Get back to the sand dune
Get a lesson from Zack Majors first thing when in doubt pull in
Estabas girando pegado al rotor y sotavento del cerro de sabora, esta es una zona de no sustentación y turbulenta, no tenía sentido girar en ese sitio. Me alegro que todo acabara bien, podría haber sido fatal.
The “glide” was piloting not him! He should have speed up more and give direction to his glide...He let his glide fly for him...Glad he’s alive and well...🙏
Ouch
That looks like one of the spots in Algodonales😀
Canete La Real, close by :)
Luck Guy. glad you are doing well. in flight school you didn't learn how to steer with some speed.
Looks like you need more time at the training hill….
as far as i can see, i wasn't there, your takeoff and handling was superb! only i wonder -:::- instead of going straight - straight ahead to the landing site, why 360* !!!!! go one final approach,,, flare,,, an pusche
it's that simple!!!!! 👍
Too slow too low. Have some speed in windy conditions and a safe distance. In turbulence you can fall 30ft in a snap. In open air no issue. If you spiral, the leg towards the mountain is pretty fast because you have to add the windspeed. Some beginners tend to push because thats scary. But without speed you are only a spectator of your crash.
What the heck...why turn towards the hill with no altitude? Then you keep turning with no effort to correct...totally unavoidable.
no speed , stall speed.. no control.
Alhamdulillah, pilotnya masih diberi kselamatan.
Enjoy the life you have been very lucky. I hope for you you have learn to fly corectly since that accident or just stop and keep on the ground. I dont read the description you made and on first second of video i realize your are totally beginner in high conditions. YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TAKE OFF with your experience. I dont know who tell you you can fly at this moment but this is the primary mistake. A lot of accident happens like too hard conditions for the skill of the pilot. Air is invisible but it is like water... nobody who beginning will never go in a huge river whith a canoe but stay in the lake... For hanggliding and paragliding the real security is before the start... Really 2nd hgh fly like this...change instructor or take one really better!
More training mate and be concentrated to keep your body perpendicular to the control bar in each of your movements
I don’t understand why you make 360 so close to hill.clad to be safe
Looked to me like you went behind the hill into rotor. (and into descending air)
That square area of houses and trees looked to be in the lee of any Ridge lift.
Then it looks like you pushed the bar out resulting in no air speed.
But in rotor even if you put some speed on you may still find yourself in heavy sink.
Stat well in front of the hill and make S turns into wind.
360's in strong wind are for when you have more experience
It wasn't, listen to the vario, note that at around 0:30 we can hear the sink alarm go off, so we know that's enabled as well. Yet in the initial turn towards the hill we hear very normal sounds from the vario, a chip here and there, no sink alarm, no dramatic lift, nothing.
In higher winds or ridge lift… figure 8’s is your friend
Crashing a malibu like that requires special talent or lack of instruction! But hey, shit happens. Just get more instruction and experience before thermaling close to terrain.
... or a rotor
@@davidmintun In the front side of the mountain? Looks like a thermal lifted the left wing and the pilot couldn't counter that, or tighten even further to the right, accelerate and go forward after a 360. Looks like lack of speed was a major factor, plus the hangloop is quite short which makes hard to control and dive in.
@@ericoschmitt All really good observations, but notice he was in lee of the front peak, notice the wind was strong and switchy, i've seen it b4 uneven ridges are the worst for it, he flew into the side of the rotor, that's exactly how it looks, he had momentum but no glide, no control, pushed down from above. Rotor..., i don't mean to be like a dog with a bone here, but ya'll gotta know what, and where rotors are because once you fly into one, i don't care who you are or what you are flying, you're goin' for a ride that you will be blessed to survive.
O quê salvou ele foi a árvore.
My suggestion, get more training, you were lucky,next time you will not. Fly out, dont mess close to the moutains. Fly save
To get out of a spiral, PULL and lean other side (out of spiral). You instead PUSHed. Very bad.
I'd say he hit a tree not a mountainside
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You flew too far behind the ridge. You flew into the rotor from the front ridge. Never go low behind the ridge in high wind. Remember your basic micro-meteorology. You were blessed, seems you were on the edge of the rotor, i watched a hang4 pilot pancaked onto the top of the ridge by a rotor, he forgot too. Control bar, both down tubes, punched a hole in the wing, and needed the hospital. If you learned this lesson, you were lucky, if you haven't, or if you forget, it will happen again.
jesus christ man, you almost killed yourself in this crash, or else you were paraplegic, it was luck that you hit the tree. but tell me, what did you want to do? spiral? get well, be carefull
To next time be care full
Flying isnt dangerous. What is dangerous is crashing.
if humans were ment to fly you would have wings.
Then go back to the tree or in the cave..we are not born with the keyboard aswell..this is just pilot mistake and the sport is beautifull
Hahahahaha yeee haaa!! Moyes Gliders are crap
what are you doing flying hang gliders?