I'm on my 4th season with my diy. I used a panel that is easily twice as big from harbor freight. Mine floats on a piece of foam sheet just in the pool, no bucket. I still need to use some chlorine tabs but once everything is on point it drastically reduces the need for chems. Oh and fuck pools don't ever get one they are fun to visit but suck to own.
Great video! Question...I can't get a solar charger at the moment but what if I connect a battery trickle charger to it....or a car battery. And does the length of the copper tubes matter?
That is a pretty "back yard garage" ionizer.....it could use a fixed holder and put it into the skimmer box..! I wonder if the separation will render good performance. I built mine using PVC pipe copper bars and a steel spring to surround the copper bar with a 3/8" gap.. Used a 3" tee and 6" long bars, in line with the filter discharge. I used a 12V 500mA transformer. I actually read the patents on these devices to determine the construction guidelines.
you should post a few Images to help us figure out more efficient designs...I'm trying to figure a DIY for my pond...but not solar powered...a 12v version
I built this and put it it in my pool after it turned green 1st I put pool shock in next day was cloudy built this and water turned clear! Only thing I did different was I used actual 3/0 wire not tubing like you did. 3 weeks later its green I tried putting shock in again and its still green according to stuff I seen online is it possible I have too much copper in my pool? Should I use actual tubing?
For anyone reading this in the future, you are supposed to have 2 different metals, i.e. copper and stainless steel. If the voltage from the solar panel is too high, you will end up with green/blue water. This is because it has worked too well, and you have too much copper in the water.
If you sit it outside of the water is it necessary to disconnect it from power?....will it ruin itself in open air. And my other question is, how important is proximity of each copper piece to one another and why? I'm trying to wrap my head around the important parts of your clever system ❤ thank you for the video!
Built one a couple days ago except with a 12v, 2 amp power supply. That night it ate most of a 6 inch long 1/2" pipe but just one of the pipes. It was old pipe so bought new pipe and it did the same thing. Any idea why? Our pool was salt water and built this because our salt water chlorine generator stopped producing enough. Is this only for non salt water and that's why it's just eating my pipes?
like @rob dominguez says, the amperage is too high - the solar panel recommended is about 1.5 watts max output, which is 0.125 amps (1.5W = 12v x 0.125 a) - nearly a twentieth of your charger's output. Plus, recall that salt water is more conductive than fresh water, which means more power is flowing between the pipes, magnifying the effect. On top of that, there is probably some additional chemical reaction going on between the salt water (NaCl + H20) and the copper (Cu) the electrolysis process causes or enhances. That's just an educated guess because I don't remember my chemistry classes :) but do know how "acid like" salt water is - I live blocks away from the Atlantic ocean - everything metal here gets eaten away at an incredibly annoying speed. I'll ask an old chemist friend what he thinks and will report back...
Same. I have the Harbor Freight 1.5Watt solar charger. I clamped the alligator clips - one to each copper pipe and all is well until it hits the water. I did find that if I only dip a couple of centimeters in the blue light fades but seems to work. I can see small bubbles and copper being used, turning blue. But I can't submerge more than a couple of cm into the water or the blue light shuts off. I wonder if there is some circuitry in the unit that senses the short and cuts out.
Could one put the copper pipe and silver wire together , for each piece --- and separate the two things with the zip ties . .... or would you have to do two whole separate systems ? I feel one should be able to wrap the silver wire around each copper pipe , separate them with the zip ties and attach the neg + pos leads from the solar panel ...... yes ?
I came back on here to read the comments because I'm having the same issue. It actually worked a full day, but I took it out when it was raining. Now when I plop the copper in, the flashing blue charging light on the solar panel stops. I've cleaned the copper, resituated the clamps, everything. It works when not in water but the second I place it in the pool, it stops. Someone please advise!
You should give credit to the other guy who did this 11 years ago. ua-cam.com/video/S0fqKJ82sRc/v-deo.html You are building a floating one, but the other guy just drops it into the pool with the panel outside the pool. And if you use a pool cover the other guys method is better.
That’s a mirage. Copper turns blonde hair green. This just keeps algae from growing. You water is likely full of dangerous bacteria. Chlorine is needed to sanitize the water. You aren’t using enough chlorine to keep the water safe. You couldn’t pay me to get in that water.
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I'm on my 4th season with my diy. I used a panel that is easily twice as big from harbor freight. Mine floats on a piece of foam sheet just in the pool, no bucket. I still need to use some chlorine tabs but once everything is on point it drastically reduces the need for chems. Oh and fuck pools don't ever get one they are fun to visit but suck to own.
Great job friend!! Gonna try it.👍🙋🏻♀️💗
Great video! Question...I can't get a solar charger at the moment but what if I connect a battery trickle charger to it....or a car battery. And does the length of the copper tubes matter?
That is a pretty "back yard garage" ionizer.....it could use a fixed holder and put it into the skimmer box..! I wonder if the separation will render good performance. I built mine using PVC pipe copper bars and a steel spring to surround the copper bar with a 3/8" gap.. Used a 3" tee and 6" long bars, in line with the filter discharge. I used a 12V 500mA transformer. I actually read the patents on these devices to determine the construction guidelines.
you should post a few Images to help us figure out more efficient designs...I'm trying to figure a DIY for my pond...but not solar powered...a 12v version
wouldn't the steel spring conduct the charge and basically make the two copper pipes as one tho' ?? Curious about that .
Great video!!! I've decided to do mine in a pool chlorine float. We'll see what happens...
Hi , thanks for your VIDEO, so don’t need silver spring around?
The "spring" you have seen is just a fancy looking electrode, they use it so it looks good, but unlike copper it does not dissolve.
Does the W/watt matter? The link shows 1.5W I have a 6w one. I don't want to by another if I don't need to
If you have a plaster pool I would be careful with copper. It can stain, but staining can also be prevented.
Just built mine lastnight.. hoping for a miracle...lol.
And, what happens?
I don’t see a link to the solar panel for the ionizer. Will a 2.5w work?
you should use a 12watt ....
I use 10 watt and it works good.
I built this and put it it in my pool after it turned green 1st I put pool shock in next day was cloudy built this and water turned clear! Only thing I did different was I used actual 3/0 wire not tubing like you did. 3 weeks later its green I tried putting shock in again and its still green according to stuff I seen online is it possible I have too much copper in my pool? Should I use actual tubing?
The official pool ioniser has solid copper rods, not tube, the idea being the solid rods take longer to disolve.
sounds like you need to flock and vacuum before hand
For anyone reading this in the future, you are supposed to have 2 different metals, i.e. copper and stainless steel. If the voltage from the solar panel is too high, you will end up with green/blue water. This is because it has worked too well, and you have too much copper in the water.
the 2 rods have to be pretty close together for this to work. Doesnt matter if rods or tubes.
If you sit it outside of the water is it necessary to disconnect it from power?....will it ruin itself in open air.
And my other question is, how important is proximity of each copper piece to one another and why? I'm trying to wrap my head around the important parts of your clever system ❤ thank you for the video!
its safe to get in the water with it in the pool, the only danger is strangulation by the cable going to the solar panel.
I use this method but dont use a float. Just hang the tubes off the side still works good. @@tonipeters-looks-at
Thanks good job
Built one a couple days ago except with a 12v, 2 amp power supply. That night it ate most of a 6 inch long 1/2" pipe but just one of the pipes. It was old pipe so bought new pipe and it did the same thing. Any idea why? Our pool was salt water and built this because our salt water chlorine generator stopped producing enough. Is this only for non salt water and that's why it's just eating my pipes?
i'm guessing your amperage is more than you need
like @rob dominguez says, the amperage is too high - the solar panel recommended is about 1.5 watts max output, which is 0.125 amps (1.5W = 12v x 0.125 a) - nearly a twentieth of your charger's output. Plus, recall that salt water is more conductive than fresh water, which means more power is flowing between the pipes, magnifying the effect. On top of that, there is probably some additional chemical reaction going on between the salt water (NaCl + H20) and the copper (Cu) the electrolysis process causes or enhances. That's just an educated guess because I don't remember my chemistry classes :) but do know how "acid like" salt water is - I live blocks away from the Atlantic ocean - everything metal here gets eaten away at an incredibly annoying speed. I'll ask an old chemist friend what he thinks and will report back...
2 amps at 12v is 24watts. Too much amperage. @@ArchetypalCat
When you say no chemicals. Do you mean none at all except a little chlorine tabs?
Will you please comment your link for the solar charger? I am unable to see links in your video.
almost any solar panel will work.
I did this but I just leave the copper tubes in the water...no need to float the whole thing in the pool if you have steps.
And i can reolace the solar panel for?.
9v
6v
3 v
Batteryes??????
It has to be above or below wich one???
The solar panel generates the power.
Use the strongest solar panel you can get your hands on. There is no risk of electrocution don't be a pussy.
I made this exact model but when I put it the the water the blue light stops bleaking...does that mean it isn't working?
I have the same question. Did you figure this out?
Same. I have the Harbor Freight 1.5Watt solar charger. I clamped the alligator clips - one to each copper pipe and all is well until it hits the water. I did find that if I only dip a couple of centimeters in the blue light fades but seems to work. I can see small bubbles and copper being used, turning blue. But I can't submerge more than a couple of cm into the water or the blue light shuts off. I wonder if there is some circuitry in the unit that senses the short and cuts out.
Do another one with 2 silver rods for bacteria
Could one put the copper pipe and silver wire together , for each piece --- and separate the two things with the zip ties . .... or would you have to do two whole separate systems ? I feel one should be able to wrap the silver wire around each copper pipe , separate them with the zip ties and attach the neg + pos leads from the solar panel ...... yes ?
The Solar Panel is 12V but how many Watts should it be?
I use a 10 watt panel, seems to work good for me.
I tried this but the solar panel shuts off when in the water any help
My one does the same thing just turns off as soon as the copper hits the water
I even bought new solor pannles thinking it was broken but when i take the copper out the solore blue light flashes as soon as it hits water off
Mine does the same thing. Hmmm
@@jeramemaupin8945 it worked for like 2 weeks then every time i put it back in the water the solor powerd light would stop blinking
I came back on here to read the comments because I'm having the same issue. It actually worked a full day, but I took it out when it was raining. Now when I plop the copper in, the flashing blue charging light on the solar panel stops. I've cleaned the copper, resituated the clamps, everything. It works when not in water but the second I place it in the pool, it stops. Someone please advise!
That’s one heck of a rattlesnake infestation I hear in the background! -don from Lorain Ohio USA 🇺🇸
Does this add copper to your water?
Yes
should just clamp it horizontally and use some plastic or electrical tape so it's safe during a storm or kids
Sounds like the next uoload will need to be "how to remove rattlesnake venom
How many votes u put to it
You should give credit to the other guy who did this 11 years ago. ua-cam.com/video/S0fqKJ82sRc/v-deo.html You are building a floating one, but the other guy just drops it into the pool with the panel outside the pool. And if you use a pool cover the other guys method is better.
Lol show the after results 6 months
my pool doesn't stay up that long, Just look up copper ionizer and see what other people who have used it have to say about it, proven results
That’s a mirage. Copper turns blonde hair green. This just keeps algae from growing. You water is likely full of dangerous bacteria. Chlorine is needed to sanitize the water. You aren’t using enough chlorine to keep the water safe. You couldn’t pay me to get in that water.