How many hours is on that tractor? When I bought a new holland ts6 and a massey 7616 brand new they both threw poor def quality codes within the first several hours of use... drain it out and put fresh stuff in. Don't think condensation is a thing for that, i keep the def tank on the 7616 at around a 1/3 full all winter long to prevent any bulging issues on teh tank if the def freezes. That's interesting the Maintenance manual doesn't have error codes listed. The catch bottles are great for knowing if an outer oring is bad in the couplers.
A guy I used to work for had a 4710 just like yours and i swear it spent more time being worked on over def issues than it did in the field doing work... Not trying to talk a brand down but so far the New Holland powerstar 100 I have hasn't had any trouble and uses way less def than the Massey Fergusons.
Time will tell on when or if I have anymore issues with it. I found a place in Texas that can make the system go away but I’m not risking voiding my warranty unless it cost me to much downtime
I've got a 4710 its a 2017 I've had def issues for the last 2 years I'm getting ready to head to the dealer about 100 mi away to have some codes cleared I don't know if I'm going to keep this tractor or not but they sure are a pain in the butt.
I have really been wanting a 4707 with dayna 2 can’t find any around me though one dealer close has 20 on order but Massey just told them they were not going to be shipping any of the ones they ordered with the dayna 2 trans. So I talked to another dealer and he said they were having some issues with the dayna 2 trans that’s why they were not shipping them out right now. Wish they would get it figured out because i sure want one. They have a few showing up next mounts without the dayna 2 but I really want the dayna 2.
That’s pretty much how it was around me. I had to drive 2 1/2 hrs away to get this tractor which they only had 2 in stock. I hope they aren’t having issues with that trans because it’s similar to the Dyna 4 and Dyna 6 which has been around awhile now.
The only two I know of is Blackland equipment in Temple and Three Rivers in Granbury. I keep getting the same DEF quality error code every once in a while. I’ll drain the tank and refill but it’s getting old. This last time I flushed the tank with distilled water and blew it out with air before refilling it with fresh DEF. It seems to occur more often with the cooler morning temperatures
I had an issue with the def system on my T5.120 after letting it warm up, too… the dealer told me not to let it idle at lower rpm as it could cause an exhaust build up and it would temporarily derate the engine. Something to consider as well.
@@CenTexAg the engines need to get up to operating temp and pulling until it starts to inject def into the system... if putzing around too much or low engine speed (or plain short periods of run time) will cause codes to pop up saying to run the engine above a certain rpm. I don't think it derates the engine right away, I think it goes on a timer at that point for something like that, but only get like 3 engine restarts if the error reoccurs and will fully derate the engine and that requires a service call.
It's brilliant right? Create emissions to reduce carbon foot print of said machine and the same emission system won't run properly if your not wide open burning tons of unnecessary fuel putting more carbon into the air..... makes so much sense
My workmaster already had the flip open caps which are nice but I never could find an oil catch bottle for them. The premium tractors like T5 or T6 may have one which you could probably make it fit on the Workmaster. Just have to do some research
I haven't had any issues out of the DEF system on mine and hope I never do. For the remote cap kit I ordered kit # ACW051169A It puts the catch can bracket on the stud above the one yours mounted on and really gets it up and out of the way of everything.
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That’s awfully nice of you! It’s mainly coastal in my larger fields (30 to 40acres) and Klein native mix in my smaller ones. I’ll check out Outkast Farms thanks. I think the dealer threw some new pins in it because they dont look worn. I do have a new set of belts I’m going to install soon so we will see how it goes. The manual calls for mini roughtop belts but I bought roughtop hoping it will help the bale formation get started easier. It’s to long to explain on here but when I make the video of the replacement I will explain then. Thanks again
@@CenTexAg This is also another reason older tractor hold there resale value. That and newer tractors are getting harder to repair with all the technology
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How many hours is on that tractor? When I bought a new holland ts6 and a massey 7616 brand new they both threw poor def quality codes within the first several hours of use... drain it out and put fresh stuff in. Don't think condensation is a thing for that, i keep the def tank on the 7616 at around a 1/3 full all winter long to prevent any bulging issues on teh tank if the def freezes.
That's interesting the Maintenance manual doesn't have error codes listed. The catch bottles are great for knowing if an outer oring is bad in the couplers.
It’s got 39 hrs. It seems draining the DEF and adding a fresh bottle has fixed it. Good idea on keeping it 1/3 full.
A guy I used to work for had a 4710 just like yours and i swear it spent more time being worked on over def issues than it did in the field doing work... Not trying to talk a brand down but so far the New Holland powerstar 100 I have hasn't had any trouble and uses way less def than the Massey Fergusons.
Time will tell on when or if I have anymore issues with it. I found a place in Texas that can make the system go away but I’m not risking voiding my warranty unless it cost me to much downtime
I've got a 4710 its a 2017 I've had def issues for the last 2 years I'm getting ready to head to the dealer about 100 mi away to have some codes cleared I don't know if I'm going to keep this tractor or not but they sure are a pain in the butt.
Yeah it sucks getting a warning light out of nowhere.
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They help with the DEF system ;)
Can't you just get a 4707 and tune it?
@ln5747 yes but the 4707 has egr. So it runs dirtier than the 4710 which is scr only. Makes it easier to do the weight reduction and tune
I have really been wanting a 4707 with dayna 2 can’t find any around me though one dealer close has 20 on order but Massey just told them they were not going to be shipping any of the ones they ordered with the dayna 2 trans. So I talked to another dealer and he said they were having some issues with the dayna 2 trans that’s why they were not shipping them out right now. Wish they would get it figured out because i sure want one. They have a few showing up next mounts without the dayna 2 but I really want the dayna 2.
That’s pretty much how it was around me. I had to drive 2 1/2 hrs away to get this tractor which they only had 2 in stock. I hope they aren’t having issues with that trans because it’s similar to the Dyna 4 and Dyna 6 which has been around awhile now.
Having def issues again on our MF. I’m in central Texas also and have not had much luck with dealers. Do you have a good one?
The only two I know of is Blackland equipment in Temple and Three Rivers in Granbury. I keep getting the same DEF quality error code every once in a while. I’ll drain the tank and refill but it’s getting old. This last time I flushed the tank with distilled water and blew it out with air before refilling it with fresh DEF. It seems to occur more often with the cooler morning temperatures
Thanks for the reply! Do you have a way I can contact you direct? I’d love to visit about these issues as ours went into limp mode on me this weekend.
Send me an email to centexag101@gmail.com
I had an issue with the def system on my T5.120 after letting it warm up, too… the dealer told me not to let it idle at lower rpm as it could cause an exhaust build up and it would temporarily derate the engine. Something to consider as well.
That’s pretty much what I did (let it idle to warm up). I have to remember to bump up the rpm’s from now on. Thanks for the info
@@CenTexAg the engines need to get up to operating temp and pulling until it starts to inject def into the system... if putzing around too much or low engine speed (or plain short periods of run time) will cause codes to pop up saying to run the engine above a certain rpm. I don't think it derates the engine right away, I think it goes on a timer at that point for something like that, but only get like 3 engine restarts if the error reoccurs and will fully derate the engine and that requires a service call.
The only way to run these engines with def is wot. No putting around in them.
It's brilliant right? Create emissions to reduce carbon foot print of said machine and the same emission system won't run properly if your not wide open burning tons of unnecessary fuel putting more carbon into the air..... makes so much sense
do you know if there’s anything like those remote caps for new holland?
My workmaster already had the flip open caps which are nice but I never could find an oil catch bottle for them. The premium tractors like T5 or T6 may have one which you could probably make it fit on the Workmaster. Just have to do some research
I haven't had any issues out of the DEF system on mine and hope I never do. For the remote cap kit I ordered kit # ACW051169A It puts the catch can bracket on the stud above the one yours mounted on and really gets it up and out of the way of everything.
That’s good to know. My kit didn’t have any instructions so maybe that’s where it’s suppose to mount. Good info thanks
Appreciate you commenting on my channel...... After Scouting your channel I can say that Hay maybe the only place I am ahead of you.... and that is subject to change....whereas the growth of my channel will not.... But I have accepted that as reality......
You have a nice hay operation and I enjoy your content. Channels like yours is what people like me learn from and strive to work towards. Thanks for stopping by and I look forward to seeing more videos
What is your primary variety of Hay? Any help I can give will be given to you freely.....There is also a little lady in my state that is a wealth of Knowledge.... Outkast Farms.... (Jennifer) She is a smart cookie I watched your vid on the NH baler and was wondering if the belt splice pins have ever been replaced...... If they wear to a point where they get deep grooves.... they could become a bitch to replace..... We traded for a use 459 J D baler and it took us 6 hours to replace the pins....
That’s awfully nice of you! It’s mainly coastal in my larger fields (30 to 40acres) and Klein native mix in my smaller ones.
I’ll check out Outkast Farms thanks.
I think the dealer threw some new pins in it because they dont look worn. I do have a new set of belts I’m going to install soon so we will see how it goes. The manual calls for mini roughtop belts but I bought roughtop hoping it will help the bale formation get started easier. It’s to long to explain on here but when I make the video of the replacement I will explain then. Thanks again
If you want to sell the shop manual for the workmaster, let me know. I bought a 2021 Workmaster 75.
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That's one reason I don't own any new tractors. Not a fan of DEF. Prefer older tractors without the emissions control bs.
Yes sir I completely understand.
@@CenTexAg This is also another reason older tractor hold there resale value. That and newer tractors are getting harder to repair with all the technology