Question: Should I get a Computer Science Degree from University of the People?
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Hi Eli, my name is Silas. I have a question. I wanna ask ur opinion about an online university in US (OOSA as u say it), known as University Of People. I am a Pakistani citizen and I work as a Salesman in Oman, I really wanna get a degree in computer science and the best way for me is to do the online program with UOPeople. So I wanna know if u have any info about this University.
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Eli,
We would like to start by thanking you for the recent video you posted about studying at University of the People. Videos such as yours help to spread the word to students around the world who could really benefit from UoPeople but may not have heard of us yet.
There are two small points which we think people should know:
1. UoPeople is non-profit organization. The $100 exam processing fee is only in order to remain sustainable. For students who cannot afford these nominal fees, the University works very hard to offer many scholarship opportunities.
2. UoPeople is able to provide high quality academic education and keep costs down. By embracing collaborative learning, utilizing open educational resources and open source technology, as well as the assistance of some of its over 3,000 volunteers, many of them professors from world-class universities, UoPeople is able to disrupt the common assumption of “what you pay is what you get”.
Again, thank you very much for profiling the University in your video channel and spreading the word about the opportunity to study online and tuition-free, towards an accredited degree!
Warm regards,
University of the People
www.uopeople.edu
how long it will take to complete the degree
Jimmy a Geek
Students who enroll full-time for all five terms in the year can complete the A.S. degree in two
academic years and the B.S. degree in four years.
Students who enroll full-time, but follow the more universal pattern of postsecondary study
and annually take 1 term out of residence, can complete the A.S. degree in two and a half
academic years and the B.S degree in five years.
Students who pursue their degree on a part-time basis or who take extended leaves will take
longer to graduate.
Jimmy a Geek Degree Seeking Students may choose to be full-time students taking 2-3 courses per term, or part-time
students taking 1 course per term. Students who maintain a cumulative grade point average (GPA) of
≥3.0 may register for up to three courses per term. In contrast, students on Probation Continued may
register for only one course per term.
Jimmy a Geek Source:
www.uopeople.org/files/Pdf/university_catalog.pdf
Will the US Federal Government recognize my degree from your University if I applied on USAjobs?
Due to Covid 19 University of the people went from 20.000 students to 30.000 . I've just watched a video of one of the graduates that went from homeless to work for Amazon. She's got a MBA.
Amazon hires anybody
they now have 44k students
@@michal2135 true
@@DefaultName-qn9qp 55k
@@michal2135 not for tech roles. Amazon tech jobs pay 120-150k right out of college(same as Google). I guess management roles pay pretty high as well.
Just finished my first semester at UoPeople. It takes a lot of motivation to stay engaged, but it is so worth it!
Kristina McLaughlin I have some questions for you, let me know if you have time
@@maricruzvillanueva4544 sure thing! What would you like to know? ☺
How many courses are you doing per 9 week semester? And is there an assignment a week? How many exams you have per semester?
U still online i wanna ask
@Think and grow up 3 courses max, 2 is suggested. You will be required to peer review three other students assignments a week. On both the first assignment and the second assignment. It is a lot of writing in A.P.A. You will also have to take a quiz each week based on the reading, and join a general discussion with at least 3 rated comments. In addition there is a journal assignment with the teacher each week that is graded as well.
When it comes to cost they are true to their word. There is absolutely no cost other than exam fees. Which is a $100 per class, per final exam.
The school is an accredited online University, and mostly taught by Professors from UC Berkeley and NYU as a passion project for affordable education for all. Hope this helps!! 🥰
I think UoPeople is a good option. It is accredited, and the accreditation is recognized by the United States Department of Education.
A Bachelors degree is a good foot in the door. This makes it affordable.
You are correct. Many jobs only have one qualification needed and that is a bachelor's degree in any topic from any accredited school. I worked for such a company though not in a position that required a degree. Many training programs will only accept those with a bachelor's degree.
Not accredited or recognized by United States Department of Education.
The reason why people ask about the decision they "already made" is because you can give them some new information that can change their mind or enforce their position. It does matter what you say about it.
Your correct,in reality, any one should have his own mind about anything even if he or she isn't certain about it. So because someone comes to you for advise doesn't mean, they should be completely blank about the subject, we all have our own personal perception about a thing.
Psychology is a funny thing though. Sometimes we seek confirmation from other people, just to comfort us because we doubt our decision. However; when presented with information that conflicts with what we already "know" we will fend off this information like an attack and become even more convinced of our initial decisions.
That's a large part of why psychologists can't give very direct advice to their patients but need to lead them to figure things out for themselves.
There are hundreds of thousands of people working in the Computer field without any degrees, so how can a Nationally accredited Degree in Computer Science from the University of the people, not be a plus on your resume? Will it open all doors? No, either will a degree from Penn State. So, if a guy with no degree can get in the door, than a degree from UoPeople should get you in that same door. Keep in mind you paid $4000.00 + 4 years of your time, so if after graduation it takes you 6 months to find a $60K salary, you're winning!
@YexaC not if you live in Latam
@@brunocruzadomunoz6732 En Latinoamerica si no tienes un titulo universitario practicamente las empresas no te toman en cuenta
Hello good day everyone! I have a question! I want to know! If a bachelor degree of Uopeople works for migration purposes? Ive been investigating and It have national accreditation and not regional accreditation?; I don't know if it can be valid for traveling in Abroad and getting Visa for working in any country?
$60k? lol. I'd take $20k plus paid healthcare.
Wgy would this take 4 months?
Berkley is accepting top performing Business Admin students with a 3.5 GPA or higher from University of the People Associates degree students into their Business Admin program.... I'd say that its pretty safe to say that this is a great opportunity
I'm going to be a master there I'm enrolling
What about an Associate degree in computer science?
Exactly, that is one of the reasons why Olympian Simone Biles attends the University of the People
I really don't get it, most of college is usually self guided anyway. You go to class, the instructor talks about things, you come home or dorm and study for a couple of hours. You are also expected to do the HW on your own anyway and half the classes never check HW so you're shit out of luck if you don't do Homework (especially for math or science classes).
I was in a community college but I'm transferring and I will be getting my online Computer Science degree from the University of Illinois so I can work and help my family who is struggling financially.
+O Waz My college experience in computer science was not self-guided at all. My professors would teach concepts and then we would put those concepts to work as a class and see if we could write the code for the problem. We would also get homework to do to see if we could even further express that we know the concepts.
I almost never had to look to the class book to see how to do something because the professors explained it so well in class.
+O Waz I agree. I did math as an undergrad & it was nearly entirely self taught in the basement of my dorm, six nights a week until well after midnight. I met my advisor maybe three times during my entire undergraduate career. And I'm sure I paid more than $4K for *that*. I hope more and more places like UoP come about so that vast swathes of students leave traditional institutions that're just milking students into debt. Competition and evolution.
Yeah and don't forget about the extremely overly priced textbooks that you have to pay for with the same information that you can get for free on the internet lol
Most instructor lectures and the exams come from the lecture. With online classes you have to take notes on multiple chapters and you don’t know what the exam will be about so online courses are more challenging to me.
DEAC is an approved and recognized accrediting agency by the US Department of Education. The speaker failed to mention that.
Thank you! That's exactly what I was thinking when I was watching this review. One of the first things I did was check the Department of Education website and I saw that the school was recognized as being accredited, according to their database.
his video is from 2014...I guess the DEAC accreditation is in 2018
@@dagmawidemelashprogrammer
hi bos
did you mean that this DEAC existed in Uopeople before the American education department used it?
Starting in July 2020, there is no distinction between regional and national accreditation according to the U.S department of education. Hopefully this catch up with employers.
@@missdesireindependance5194 We can all thank President Donald Trump for that!!
Thank you man, that's totally true.
NOTHING is FREE IN this WORLD.
It's not entirely free...
$5k vs $30k. it's a no brainer
I completely agree with you with regard to it's what you put into it is what you will get out of it. Very honorable review and I look forward to hearing more about your reviews.
The accreditation is AUTHORIZED by the U.S. Department of Education. The students are taught also by professors from NYU, Princeton, Oxford, etc. Students have been hired by major companies like IBM, and others. This is an excellent opportunity for computer science because coders in other programs like boot camps are making 6 figures. This is a NORMAL accreditation because it is accepted by U.S. Dept. of Education.
yes eli...tell us your top ten online (distance learning) unis...and don't compare apples n pears
Eli, the school is great. I can compare it to another online school I attended and I can tell you these people are serious. Best classes ever. Even when you know that if you want to excel at anything you can not stop at what a school would teach you.
i agree with you the school is amazing but you have to be a self motivated learner. i enjoyed every course i take in this university and the experience is great.
If I get my BS from here, can i make MS from other universities?
Can you finish the program in less than 4 years? Or you have to wait for each lecture and each semester.
please how is the teaching
Would love to hear your opinion now, since the pandemic hit. Dr. Atieh's comment from below is a very true comment. The DOE does accept the University of the People, since it is DEAC accredited. People are, however, very ticklish about and are very unsure of what it is in the hiring departments of the Universities in my area. Very interesting fact....the University where I got my BA last month is now closing...totally regionally accredited. The University of the People is still here. The best comment made on this video is that it really is up to the individual to make what educational system that they can do work for them. I have talked with a person who got their BA and MBA from University of the People and loved the experience and has had no problem with it. Nowhere is perfect, for sure. I have to admit that I do really love the premise of this University!
Currently doing Computer Science at Troy University. It's a traditional brick and mortar state university in Troy, Alabama. They have a good online program for Computer Science. They also have satellite campuses in multiple states, Vietnam, South Korea, Japan and others.
Hi what is the name of the university, and cost of their online program compared to university of the people
I go to UoP, and its definitely not a monologue. We are literally graded by discussions with other students as well as the teachers, with origins based in questions that are in fact 'pulled out of us' . It's literally a mandatory part of the grading for every class.
You mean UoPeople, UoP is a different university :)
+Sarah Vanunu Sara is it real?
Absolutely.
Ask yourself... why the whole system is becoming MOOC? I can see a lot of top universities partnering Coursera and Edx, etc. I think the world of education is changing without many people realizing! Technology is teaching us a lesson, people. I am in my second year now. And I got financial aids from the school. Thank you UoP.
can I double major in Uop?
Thanks Bro. Your video really helped me out. I already have a B.A. from USFCA and was going to sign up for B.A. in Computer Science. Your video helped me a better choice of Major. UOP just changed my major to M.Ed thanks again Bro.
Just an update that the UoPeople have applied for WASC accreditation (which is a regionally accrediting organization) and WASC has found their application eligible. It may take a few more years but soon UoP will be regionally accredited as well (:
This is good to hear. I'm thinking about enrolling in the computer science program
Did they ever become accredited?
@@BH-jy3bc it shows on the website of U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION this :
Accreditor -
WASC Senior College and University Commission
Preaccredited since (06/25/2021) Next Review Date (06/25/2026)
But honestly idk what that means
@@BH-jy3bc Hi, to answer your question The University Of The People is already fully accredited. UoPeople is seeking additional accreditation from WASC. WASC will be visiting UoPeople between 11/30/2022 and 12/05/2022 and a decision may be announced very soon. I'm sure once that happens the fees are going to change, so get in now or be left behind! Nothing better than having that white envelope with the purple logo show up in your mailbox, for those who know what I'm talking about, lol!!
I am a student at UoPeople & it is a great school. The curriculum is good & it is a substantive education. Also, the accrediting agency, the DEAC, is reputable.
It would be great to have an update on this, I'm studying at UOpeople right now and it's entirely based on conversation asking questions and having your thinking challenged. Every week you have to discuss with your course mates and you have questions or challenges for you from the course instructor, as well as an assessment. So I'm not sure the comments about that are true any more.
How is the university is it worth it right now ?
This video is old but I want to say "That's true", If University of People is charging 4000$ for testing it is equal to my whole year salary here in ME , and guess what? my salary is pretty good compared to other jobs here. But it deserve trying, since you pay it along a 4 years-program, and additionally there is no other choice if high tuition-fees Universities are considered.
Brother 4000$ a year or total for 4year program??
subscribed, the only reason I LIKE THIS GUY!
It is $4000 for the ENTIRE degree. I know for sure $4000 is cheap than any in state university's annual tuition. And remember An annual tuition is ONLY good for 9 months. You need to pay extra for the summer. So $4000 for the entire bachelor's degree is unbelievably cheap.
You may not believe it but $4000 is too much in my country it can pay for computer science BSc of 2 student in the best universities of the the country I come from (Uganda )
I like the point you make about the context of learning methods in the classroom as opposed to monologue methodology online. I'm not sure if they make you pay another $100 if you don't pass the exam???
I have an Associate degree and would like to complete my Bachelor's degree and perhaps Masters someday, thereafter. I don't have a lot of time, since I'm sort of close to my retirement. I'm going on 52, still bright and love computers, but no more Financial Aid for me. I see about 7 to 9 more years until I settle and retire. I suppose I can use the College Tax Credit in my Income Tax and use that to pay most of the yearly fees at a Brick and Mortar College. I just don't want to attend an in class environment. I'm older and don't feel confident about being with 20 somethings.
What would you do???
Hi, I am Aleksandar Pavlović and I am proclaimed for the mad man in Serbia and Montenegro, but I am not mad at all. I have no anything to loose. I hope I will manage to complete Computer Science knowledge I need. Thank you for this opportunity. Please, teach me good.
Hey Aleksandar, I am wondering how is it going for you? Best regards!!! :)
I was really hoping he'd go into detail about whether UOP is safe since it's nationally accredited instead of regionally accredited.
I understand you. You are saying well what you are really saying is give someone 4K. To fund their studies. Thankyou man.
well I'm more lost having watched this, so thanks for that
They are offering scholarship for those who cant really afford the $100 test free.
For very few students, yes.
Good luck finding a real student who managed to get one..lol
Yes but only upto 10 free Exams.
Having studied online and on campus I can say confidently that the content covered in both is the same - however what Eli says about context is spot on. I like self study and do really well with it however the amount I learn on campus simply from talking to other students after lectures or during breaks is significant. You don't get that online and that is something to really take into consideration. You'll cover the same topics and earn the same degree but there is a value add in gong to a campus if you can. It really comes down to what your options are.
If you learn the material you're career won't be screwed or anything - most employers don't ask about degrees apart from maybe if you have one or not.
I am a Finance a Major, about to graduate and I wanted to venture into tech.
What I like about UoP is it accommodates everyone. I did a research and unlike the responses, the University is really trying, it's not MIT but it is a good University.It is approved by DEAC and another body, for most people, that is a really affordable option. My advisor replies immediately to my emails and he assisted me to get the $60 registration fee. Hopefully I won't have to use any money during the whole program because of the scholarships. I just have to sacrifice my time for 3-4 years and get it.
Oman is where I am from ... I am also, planing to get involved with the University of People in computer science.
I have some questions for you if your free .
how come this guy doesn't have saliva in his mouth. he talked seamlessly for 13 mins.
Cotton mouth...
though I totally dislike the way you were relaying your thoughts and got a strong sarcastic and mocking taste in your words, yet what you said is sadly right straight to the point.
Agreed. His opening remark about how the person seeking advice "already has an answer" is narrow-minded of him. What if the person seeking advice has no background knowledge on American education and they need a Westerner to guide them through. Not everyone is living with the same dilemmas or thinking with the same mindset. Sometimes people need another's opinion to see their problem with fresh-eyes.
Hi Eli
I do agree with some of your comments, however, if HP and Microsoft support this idea even with interships, plus they have people from top universities teaching and helping, plus some other things, I think uopeople is a good option. Besides, I also think that to give a better opinion it is necessary to go thru the process of taking at least a class and see what the quality is, so if none else says something else before, I´ll come back in two months and let you guys know...
How's going with your course in UoPeople? How about the instructor?
Mengxuan Lu It is going great.I really enjoy the program. I have met many wonderful people, and I am learning a lot. It was one of the best decisions I have made. I would whole-heartedly recommend it to others.
Oz I am a student at University of the People, and so far I can tell you that it has been wonderful. I would strongly recommend it. If I can answer any questions for you feel free to message me and I will try my best.
Latonia Smith Thank you very much for your reply. I am still considering this program, and you are the only person attending the courses that I can reach at. My big concern is the instructors and the course materials. Where are the instructors normally from? I heard they are all volunteers, so I am concerned whether they teach well. And you know, IT industry is changing fast, I don't want to learn something out-of-date.
Mengxuan Lu You are very welcome. The instructors do volunteer their time and expertise, however we are lucky to have someone of their caliber teaching us. Many of the instructors come from schools like NYU, Yale etc. These are top notch professionals, who on top of their workload with their institutions take time to help us as well. As for the curriculum, I am only in my first term. So all that I know I got from the course catalog. But in reviewing it, it seems to be very up to date. I would think that it would have had to be up to date in order to qualify for the accreditation, which they recently obtained. Also they partnered with HP and Microsoft. I can't imagine them partnering with a school that was offering out of date material. But again, in the end, you have to decide what is a good fit for you. It was the right choice for me.
well let me tell you something in my country which is in Europe 99% of the universities are teaching philosophy history, psychology and academic writing on CS course. UOP is yet one of the best choice and even better than 99% of the universities with physical class rooms.
I just moved to Europe (Portugal) and there aren't really good options for english bachelors programs here...do you think UOP is still a good option? or are there European equivalent online universities?
I think its possible to capture context in an online program if it's well done. I think udacity does a great job of capturing context!
When I first heard about University of the People, I thought it was a dynamic idea. However, there is a problem: It only has national accreditation (as seen in the video), and not regional accreditation. Regional accreditation is the gold standard with universities and credits earned at UoP may not transfer to say, University of Iowa, UCLA or MIT (NYU will take the credits though because they are one of the sponsors of UoP). The founder and all of the companies and schools involved mean well, but it cannot be taken seriously until they get that gold standard, and that may not happen since they would have to charge tuition.
So it’s not a real degree???
I am honestly very scared in deciding which major I want to be in. Originally I wanted to become a nurse because it is a decent pay, I get to interact with people and help out. However I am also really interested in computers and learning how to code. I would like to be capable of making games such as WoW and Guild Wars 2, maybe even console games. I'd also be interested in working for google (who isn't?) however I really don't know if I'd like to do programming my whole like, whereas I don't think I'd want to clean up a old mans shit all the time too. I'd like to hear some of your opinions/comments on this, want to get as much insight and opinions as possible.
So my question was
But a company will take you seriously on your interview once you show that your degree comes from university of the people? And pretty much you answer it
Now i understand the world is indeed changing and many places are now taking serious this new ways of degrees, preparation etc
And yes compare different great universities is not the meaning of your knowledge is the persons choice to really be prepared and focus on their future than a person who pretty much dont give a damn during time in college.
But lets say that we have 2 candidates who are prepared “equally” meaning
That both have the potential to example run a business from that same business degree and both are equally talented and focus to really work in their future. But that moment when you apply to that job whos gonna be taken seriously?
The person with the best personality and most friendly. As a former hiring manager when it gets that close, you ask yourself who do I want to work with? Also, do I think they could do my job better than me? 😊
It's not just Pakistan or other countries, there are many people in the US, Canada, and UK, who struggle with $4000...how I wish I could call that a drop in the ocean.
Self education = Getting a job withing well, it depends from you but id say 4-8months = learning the context and not wasting any time in universities or college since they are bs. plus ur gonna actaully have knowledge and jsut ..
I am getting a degree in Classical Singing at a European conservatory but I really want to add another degree (CS) so I have a more reliable skill to rely on (it’s also because I am very interested in tech etc since basically my whole family is in CS). I recently found the UoPeople programs and they kind of seem ideal especially since all the online degrees in Europe are still very restrictive. I want to give it a shot and hope that it leads me somewhere.
Good common sense response. The end part is so true. Whatever you put in to your education, is what you will get out of it.
I'm looking at their transfer credit history, and it looks like they've accepted transfer courses from Harvard and MIT. Those schools tend to have very, VERY low dropout rates, so my guess is it's not Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates enrolling but graduating alumni. Excellent sign for who will be your classmates.
Thank you sir for giving us a full details.
Thanks dude. The video was really informative.
the associates degree is 20 courses... = $2000 bachelors degree is 20 more courses $2000.....masters degree 9 courses x 200.00 per course (business admin)
It's not 100 per credit hour - it's 100 per class. The CompSci Bachelor's degree has 24 classes - total $2400
+Mark Belanger The fees are for examination processing. A Bachelor's degree has 40 courses - i.e. 40 exams - total $4,000; the Associate's degree has 20 courses - i.e. 20 exams - total $2,000. A range of scholarships are available too.
$4,000 in testing fees is still a good deal. My 4-year private university charged me roughly $6,000 per credit class per semester and I ended up borrowing $50,000 in loans. I did the math on their non-AACSB MBA and it's a little over $2,000 in fees. Try finding an MBA anywhere in the world that costs less than that. You are right. It's not for everyone. But for the right kind of person, it's a good deal. Most state governments will accept these degrees, as they are nationally accredited by DEAC and recognized by the U.S. Department of Education. But, when it comes to private employers, well, private employers can choose to recognize or refuse to recognize any kind of education of their choosing. There are even some famous people in Silicon Valley who have openly said that they will refuse to hire anyone with an MBA, that they train their own business people and don't like people coming in with schooled ideas.
Can we start using developing countries rather than 3rd world countries ?? Thank you :)
why? every country is developing. So it would be confusing to call them so
And now everything is online because of Covid 19🙂
I had a sales teacher that said if you are not the customer, you are the product. (Think facebook to further understand this)
I'm willing to move into USA or Canada as skilled worker and I'm just wondering if these degrees would qualify me enough for that.
Wondering the same thing
The same thing, ii want to find the graduates, fu¿ound an articule about 15 students in 2013, found nothing more
I don't know about the immigration process, but any accredited computer science program will be enough education to get a job, generally. When it comes to coding, they are mostly concerned with how much you know, rather than what degrees and certificates you have (although those still help a lot). If you can do the job, you can get the job. This program should be enough education to get a job.
Is it not possible that your questioner wants reaffirmation of his decision? Also, this from the UoPeople site, just to balance what you are saying...and yes, I am about to start volunteering for them in a short while: "...UoPeople asks students to cover the cost of processing exams at $100 per end-of course exam. This fee is a non-refundable Exam Processing Fee for each exam taken. For students who are unable to pay this amount, UoPeople has created a variety of scholarship funds dedicated to meeting the unique needs of our students. Students may apply for a UoPeople scholarship to cover up to the full cost of the Exam Processing Fees."
Genius!! Thanks!
Baltimore?! If I run into you I’ll be so happy :D
3:52 it’s actually true because in India $1= 70 Indian rupees and according to google India’s average annual income is 125,000 inr= 1785 USD which is way above one year salary you can say 4 years salary easily
no not
The Distance Education Accrediting Commission (DEAC),is a U.S. Department of Education authorized accrediting agency. Where else can you get a 4 year degree from an accredited university for $4000?
And the quality is as nothing I have seen before, I can guarantee you that.
are you making a positive statement or are you saying it is poor quality. this is confusing
There are scholarships for those who cannot afford the $4K
thanks for the advice.
You're so resourceful :)
The only accreditation that matters is regional accreditation by one of the six regional accrediting agencies that are recognized by the U.S. Department of Education, by other established universities and colleges that are regionally accredited, and most importantly, by prospective employers. If you're willing to spend $4,000, you'd be much better off considering alternatives like Udacity Nanodegrees that are built around practical, hands-on projects that you can show to a prospective employer and that can be completed in as little as 6 months. Also, there are regionally accredited universities that have online computer science degree programs that are affordable and that offer the same flexibility as University of the People. One of those is Fort Hays University, for example... They have a CS program with a minor in Business Administration that you could get for just a little more than $4,000 if you transfer credit in. They're located here: www.fhsu.edu/virtualcollege/degrees/bachelors/computer-science/
armyveteran101st Really? But isn’t it technically still a state college? How could it be so cheap?
Mr Eli , University of the People might not be on the top of your university list but its definitely one of the top American accredited online university in the world that is accessible to the less privilege cut across national boundaries.
is this video still holding any weight? Im interested to know honestly... I've got brick and mortar education, plus online accreditation... honestly... my online accredited certificates benefit me more.... but i dont have a masters or phd, so i guess that makes things different? Brick and mortar is impressive depending on audience, as much as what university...
4000$ is my yearly income. How do you know that? :)
Enkey, If you think knowledge is expensive try ignorance. You pay 4000 for an entire bachelor course? I think that is too free to even be called fair
@@davidtoglo6491 4k usd and you say it is too free i am watching this on novermber 14 2019 and i live in ethiopia and my yearly income is 936 USD only, have you read well, it is not my salary it is my entire year income and it is 936 dollars , yes nine hundred and thirty six dollars which is 78 dollars a month , do i live the same world with you
Only cheap for Americans.
@@Jiilkamaantaa you could get a scholarship from the uopeople.. Just apply
This is my third year at UoPeople and I have been studying on scholarship since I began studying
I am with IBM and they have computer programing training as well as help desk
It is an interesting business model. University of the people appears to be a MOOC company like Coursera or Edx. The difference is that instead of selling completion certificates using content derived from various universities, they are selling nationally accredited bachelors degrees using class content they are creating themselves or purchasing.
National accreditation isn't as respected as regional accreditation. That's not to say it's meaningless, but the standards are not as strict as those of regional accreditation bodies. There's always going to be an asterisk next to any degree you get, and transferring credits from a nationally accredited school to a regionally accredited school will likely be difficult or even impossible. These schools are seen as a grey area between a normal institution and a diploma mill.
So how are they making money? Cause at the end of the day they have to make money. There is no such thing as a "non profit organization." That's just a designation for tax purposes, not a description of what the people who run it are trying to do. They may be making money to accomplish some purpose beyond money, such as cancer research, but the money always comes first.
Online instruction is a fixed cost, provided that they are able to completely automate the grading of homework and quizzes. It costs money to create the content and automation. It also costs money to create web servers that can scale to large numbers of students. But once these are paid for, the mathematical limit for the marginal cost per student is zero. If you have the content and the servers set up, the cost for serving up an online class to 100 students vs 100,000 students is essentially the same. It's like making a movie. It costs many millions to produce one, but the cost of pressing a DVD copy is, in comparison, virtually nothing.
So they're giving away access to the things where their marginal costs are zero, and selling access to the thing, testing in this case, where there are marginal costs.
As long as the net they get from testing fees is greater than their fixed costs, they're making money. The more students they have participating in a class, the more students they will have wanting to take the proctored test for a fee.
Is the content they're selling tests for worth a plug nickel? No idea.
I think one kind of customer that these degrees would appeal to is someone who has a lot of job experience as a developer or IT professional, but who never finished a bachelors degree. They have "some college" or maybe an associate's degree and while they are gainfully employed, they are being blocked from many job opportunities by HR departments. If you already know how to do your job, but need a passport to get past customs, then $4,000 to get one isn't such a bad deal provided that the passport will actually be recognized. Like he says, talk to HR people and hiring managers. Don't spend time and money on something that no one will recognize it as a legitimate degree. If it is recognized, then fine. Someone with 10 or 15 years experience and a degree from a strange, but recognized school will have opportunities that someone who only has the experience will lack.
But if you're someone who is fresh out of high school or the military and looking for a degree program, look elsewhere. Go to community college for 2 years and then transfer to a 4 year state school.
I have an electrical and electronics degree, I want to get in to computer science, should I go for the master? Is that a good idea to change courses like that?
thanks for the advice. right about the last part the harvard part
who has gotten a job in the US with this degree? i am new student at uopeople Cs????
Well, today they have a lot more now. Some of the lecturer that might have actually taught you at your preferred school actually teaches at their school too. Don't be biased and judgemental simply because you are old fashioned. As for the factual parts, they send you to do internship for it and come on. This is 20th century.
Hey Eli, how do you feel about ITT Tech? I've heard good things and bad things. Would you as an employer, hold their degrees in high standard? If someone presented a degree to you from there, would you feel they know what they need to for the particular field you are hiring them for?
Thank you very much!
How can someone talk so much without saying anything
Great video, what are your top 3 reading materials for learning contexts of the computer science field?
What is your top computer science list (top 10?)
Good info thanks man
i am watching this on novermber 14 2019 and i live in ethiopia and my yearly income is 936 USD only, have you read well, it is not my salary it is my entire year income and it is 936 dollars , yes nine hundred and thirty six dollars which is 78 dollars a month , do i live the same world with you
30000 I could have a wife
What schools are at the top of your lost for a online bachelors in CS?
I am currently considering Auburn, Oregon state, or snhu.
I've reached out to UoP several times via their website contact page, requesting a counselor or officer please contact me to clarify a few questions. I never ever got a reply back. I realize they're limited in man-power-hours, but potential students should be able to speak with university/program representatives before making the significant time (and still, financial) investments...
... 60 application fee and test $120 test fee is nothing compared to other schools. $4000 dollars is 1 term at the cheapest universities. This is great. Plus, people donate money to them to pay for the fees for other people who are not as fortunate.
120 bucks for a test is pretty expensive if that's your monthly wage. Good for you if it's nothing, "nothing compared to other schools", could say the same about other universities. In Argentina, they pay you to attend university, so i could say "getting paid to study is nothing compared to $4000 dollars". Of course, it would be stupid to point that out as it's pretty obvious, just like your statement. What i'm saying is: There are plenty of cheaper and at the same time, better universities that dont involve being alone in your basement. For example, im enrolling at one of the most prestigious universities in Italy at the price of around 1500 euros per year, and the duration for a full degree is 3 years. UotP isnt even on the top 1000 in the world. So might as well waste that money on something else.
thank's a lot, eli, from a german single father
How important is a masters in CS if you're a software engineer at a big company? Should you get a masters in CS, software engineering, or none?
:) In the advertising seen by me the main person is saying that if you can't pay those &100 you'll not pay and you'll do it for free.
Hows it Sir Eli. Being that this was published 2yrs ago I'm guessing UOP has picked up more traffic and is more widely accepted as an institution to make degree goals happen. Also hoping that you'r even replying to late inquires on this thread. As you stated, my goal and dilemma is simple and specific to the UOP's supposed offering niche. I need a Bachelors to become a Commissioned Officer Candidate for Aviation in the Armed Forces and I need this to happen like 2yrs ago. Will a UOP degree be recognized by the service? The Obvious or not so obvious is, lacking funds and time. Any suggestions?
still, are you thinking about your decision that took place 6 years ago? if you changed your mind review about University of people, plz update me. thank you in advice.
Hello ELI, Fist thank you for all of the great advice. I only have one question I will soon Graduate with a Masters of Science in Managenet Information Systems from an (Acbsp) accredited school, I am interested teaching computer science and not certain on a realistic path within my budget.
You have a great presence!
Great answer Eli! I always enjoy your videos. I think what it boils down to for most people is 'will this lead to a job?' . The answer for UofP appears to be a definite 'maybe'. I see that they do have an internship program as well. I would be interested to hear from some grads of Uof P.
Thank you, you just open my eyes.
Charm city? I didnt know you were from Baltimore
I DON`T HAVE MONEY TO PURSUE THE COURSE
I do some tutoring on the side and have tutored students who are going through online programs. I am highly skeptical of the quality of the education they are getting. One student I had the teacher doesn't really lecture or demonstrate how to solve any problems, and then they are assigned homework and group projects and basically have to teach themselves. For $4K and the time it would take to complete such a degree, someone could work a job, get paid, get experience, or start their own business, and they would be better off.
+Ken L I agree completely. I've heard of friends and friends of friends doing online degrees and in my mind I'm just thinking, "you're wasting your time, no one is going to hire you because your education sucks and you won't learn anything."
+Ken L You mean if someone in this economy could get a tech job without the requisite degrees and experience. Or if someone had the cash and other resources to start her/his own business. Your complaint is applicable to very many online degree programs, and not too few traditional brick-and-mortar programs.
Heyyy Eli , i graduated from Business Admin , and i wanna shift my career to IT career , so , Will my graduation certificate prevent me to get a career path in IT ? should i graduate from computer science to get a career path in IT ? please help me out with this ..thank you
+ahmed fawzy No , it will not
hey!
can i have bachelor degree in information technology at uopeople:?