Forced Performance On How To Pick The Right Turbo, Journal Vs Ball Bearing, and Compressor Maps

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  • @forcedperformance768
    @forcedperformance768 4 місяці тому +74

    Thanks for coming out, we had a great time 🥰🥰🥰

    • @bash5552
      @bash5552 4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you Sir Robert!!

    • @lanewimberly8451
      @lanewimberly8451 4 місяці тому +2

      Robert seems like a great educator and teacher would love learn under him for a couple years

    • @jerusmith7350
      @jerusmith7350 4 місяці тому

      Great interview! Keep up the good work! Very good information 💯👊🏾🔥

  • @BDauto86
    @BDauto86 4 місяці тому +87

    For anyone that don't know Robert is a cool dude that loves talking Turbos and making power. He will answer calls and help anyone. FP are good turbos that he stands behind.

    • @7cafeify
      @7cafeify 4 місяці тому

      Do have his @ Robert's plz

    • @PATuners
      @PATuners Місяць тому +1

      I bought my 1st FP for my 1g DSm its a FP black can’t wait to put it use

    • @BDauto86
      @BDauto86 Місяць тому +1

      @@PATuners that's awesome dude it will rip. My DSM days are long gone lol I loved those cars but I couldn't handle the breakdowns. I moved on to GM v6sc, then V8 stuff and now V8 turbo stuff.
      I've watched your stuff before, I'm pretty sure your not very far from me.

    • @PATuners
      @PATuners Місяць тому

      @ I been stuck building dsm and Hyundai Tiburons last 26 years 😂 I built one v8 in my 43 years

  • @samuelbailie9718
    @samuelbailie9718 4 місяці тому +35

    Your going in the right direction with these podcasts, more knowledgeable people instead of the people that just pay money to get there car built and know what the shop tells them.

  • @knowbull5hit590
    @knowbull5hit590 4 місяці тому +69

    Robert’s a real down to earth dude could listen to him all day

    • @joshwilson5671
      @joshwilson5671 4 місяці тому +4

      I agree, he’s an OG and when he talks I listen.

    • @jahraizer250
      @jahraizer250 4 місяці тому +2

      I wish this guy was my dad.

  • @Magnus_Motorsports
    @Magnus_Motorsports 4 місяці тому +47

    This man is The original, the number one, a true brother. We can talk for hours about anything. 🤝

  • @cg873
    @cg873 4 місяці тому +32

    Men like this are bastions of knowledge. They can't be replaced. We can only be humbled by their willingness to educate the next generation. Thanks for everything you bring to the industry we all love.

  • @StreetDreamzTT
    @StreetDreamzTT 2 місяці тому +3

    Dude, not gonna lie, gonna have to rewatch this with a pen and notepad. The amount of knowledge this guy is sharing is unbelievable. My mind ain't advanced enough to take it in on the first go.

  • @morrisonfabrications
    @morrisonfabrications 4 місяці тому +18

    A highlight of every shootout is listening to Robert talk turbos. So happy for him to enjoy himself and race the Talon this year!

  • @BigThumpr1
    @BigThumpr1 4 місяці тому +21

    Robert is amazing. I will continue to support Xona for all my builds. Hands down one of the best turbo companies out there. Thank you for having him on your channel, the knowledge this man has shows, he loves what he does and the willingness to help says everything about him and his company.

  • @nevinbontrager8828
    @nevinbontrager8828 4 місяці тому +10

    Right around the 37 minute mark, my already high respect level went up. Realizing that turbos and cars are just "things" and that people matter more. Good stuff!

  • @the4g63talon8
    @the4g63talon8 3 місяці тому +2

    I’ve run a couple different FP turbos on my DSM and had my issues and gotten the pleasure to talk to Robert on the phone and he’s an awesome dude. He really does try to help the customer as much as you are willing to let him.

  • @papapetad
    @papapetad 4 місяці тому +18

    I like this guy. He speaks the language of someone you can trust; always a good thing when it comes to spending a fair stack of money on something. Thanks for the podcast.

  • @kjewer1
    @kjewer1 4 місяці тому +9

    This was awesome. Always learn something new every time Robert does some talking! I've got about a dozen Forced Peformance/Xona Rotor turbos and love them all. Great products and always great support.

    • @308racing.
      @308racing. 4 місяці тому

      Are the freaking guy going mid 7s on a 62mm xona?!

  • @WonCrazyMPPK
    @WonCrazyMPPK 4 місяці тому +10

    It’s like I got a 4 year degree on turbos in 2 hours, bless you all.

  • @apeeric
    @apeeric 4 місяці тому +6

    Rob is one BIG MASS of knowledge! Loved this podcast especially being so technical, great questions!
    “OK!?” Hahah

  • @test-vl2bd
    @test-vl2bd 4 місяці тому +8

    The podcast guests keep getting better and better

  • @pirrofab4403
    @pirrofab4403 3 місяці тому +1

    Robert young is a legend ! He cares about his customers and believes in the grassroots racer/backyard mechanic. If something goes wrong or you have a question you can actually talk to the man. That’s not something that’s necessarily found at other companies anymore.
    I love my hta68 on my 4g63 swapped 74 Vega wagon.
    Thanks Robert and the team at FP!

  • @Rabbit91101
    @Rabbit91101 4 місяці тому +5

    Robert is the absolute best in the industry. Been working with him a few years.

  • @DNightNinja
    @DNightNinja 4 місяці тому +7

    THIS is the best collab you’ve done so far. Xona rotor is ahead of the game. Good to see them on here. Next turbo is going to be a xona rotor as opposed to a Garrett.

  • @sabbath4130ify
    @sabbath4130ify 4 місяці тому +3

    Robert is such a nice guy. He's a character and loves to talk. He talks me into buying something everytime i see him at the shootout.

  • @FNR
    @FNR 4 місяці тому +4

    I’ve known Robert since the Club DSM days, and he sponsored our championship-winning ProSolo Street Modified Talon building turbos for us.
    He has always been a solid cat and I cannot say enough good things about him.
    Big 28 FTW! (Literally!)

  • @Not-Sure-Viralade-ftw
    @Not-Sure-Viralade-ftw 3 місяці тому +1

    Absolutely one of the best technical podz I've seen to date🤌 absolute pressures man...we live in absolute..
    This guy could be a teacher.. 👏

  • @frankensteincreations4740
    @frankensteincreations4740 3 місяці тому +1

    This guys personality and attitude, and the fact one of his salesmen was willing to talk to me on the phone for 40 minutes, it’s the exact and primary reason I just bought two HD8088’s.
    I don’t think I will ever buy a turbo from anyone else from now on.
    Guy is spot on with my personality, and knowledge. I’m all ears!

  • @souldoubtcustoms
    @souldoubtcustoms 4 місяці тому +4

    Robert is one of the smartest minds in motorsport. His podcast, with Matt Happel on the Sloppy Mechanics Radio Show, made me a believer in his company, and mission. Good job Tukes.

  • @308racing.
    @308racing. 4 місяці тому +4

    Robert is seriously the man and his turbos are top notch

  • @bmwe-op4jx
    @bmwe-op4jx 4 місяці тому +4

    Those are the type of guys that we want to hear ..2 hours past like nothing
    GREAT video

  • @masterofmachines
    @masterofmachines 4 місяці тому +2

    This is exactly what it’s like to hang out with Robert irl. He’s a real treasure to the industry. 💯

  • @erikmexico11
    @erikmexico11 4 місяці тому +2

    I’ve bought FP parts for my Evo 9. Great to see the face behind that! Looks like a solid knowledgeable guy! Thanks for what you have done for the platform!

  • @canoPR
    @canoPR 4 місяці тому +5

    The man knows his turbos for sure, I met him and spoke to him about my 9569 at TX2k

  • @paulk6888
    @paulk6888 4 місяці тому +1

    Awesome guest and major kudos to the host for great interview... good questions and no interrupting just to hear oneself speak like others do.

  • @DirtyPSI_Evo
    @DirtyPSI_Evo 4 місяці тому +1

    Those Xona Rotor turbos are a work of art. Currently have a 9569s on standby ready to put in. Opening the box and just looking at it you can see every little detail was well thought out and designed to put in work.

  • @gapyrodawg5181
    @gapyrodawg5181 4 місяці тому +2

    I could've listened to a 6+ hour episode with this Guy, so much Turbo knowledge 🐌🐌

  • @Keystar-h8x
    @Keystar-h8x 4 місяці тому +2

    This video literally blessed me u have know idea I’ve been struggling with my turbo build not knowing or having a good direction.

  • @CWARZ23
    @CWARZ23 4 місяці тому +4

    I work for Greg "TiAl" in Michigan and Greg is the same way his passion for turbos is like no other. I could pick his brain every day and still not hold a light to his expertise and knowledge!!

  • @Jason_Bacon
    @Jason_Bacon 4 місяці тому +2

    I spent a ton of time talking to Rob back in the days I went to the shootout, mostly just bullshitting but in that, he dropped a ton of gems.

  • @sohctony
    @sohctony 4 місяці тому +2

    My first turbo on my 2.5i impreza was a FP71hta and i absolutely loved it. Its on to another car and im sure itll make him just as happy!

  • @philboostdemon5444
    @philboostdemon5444 4 місяці тому +4

    Robert is awesome! He talked to me about my next evo turbo for about 5-10minutes back in the day (ended up being a FPRed) and I was so surprised to be talking to the owner, but he's just cool like that. He's so awesome, Mitsubishi consulted him on making a special turbo for the (JDM) EvoX FE (that's a cool story too). Bottom line, the man puts 10 pounds of sh@t in a 5 pound bag, his turbos are no joke and your car should have one! (If ya don't know, just give him a call).

  • @gordata2nice
    @gordata2nice 4 місяці тому +3

    I run a XONA and I love it a little more with all the tech!

  • @jdmimportlogistics
    @jdmimportlogistics 3 місяці тому +1

    Another great podcast! Definitely plan on supporting Robert and Xona turbos on my Audi 20V AAN 5- cyl. build. If it costs a bit more so be it this guy will take the time to talk to you.

  • @reubenmorris487
    @reubenmorris487 3 місяці тому +1

    My next "bigger" turbo will be an FP. This podcast helps make it an easy decision.

  • @SloppyMechanics
    @SloppyMechanics 4 місяці тому +3

    love robert!

  • @MrMk4jetta
    @MrMk4jetta 4 місяці тому +5

    Great vid. The “oil on the balls “ explanation had me weak 😂

  • @umakemerandy3669
    @umakemerandy3669 4 місяці тому +1

    35:35 thank you! The stage 1 compressor map info was great! The editing really helped too.

  • @seanmckinney8172
    @seanmckinney8172 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m a big fan of the automotive/performance podcasts and this guy questions alway are spot on 📈✅

  • @TheMrhoneycutt
    @TheMrhoneycutt 4 місяці тому +3

    Robert is the freaking man! Precision who?!

  • @adam6383
    @adam6383 3 місяці тому

    Robert is such a cool and nice dude. Been around forever and has always been a pleasure to communicate with.

  • @EvoKnievelRh
    @EvoKnievelRh 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m a retired army ranger trying to build a evo8 thanks for all the help fp Robert

    • @viperford6840
      @viperford6840 4 місяці тому

      Dude, ur building a car made by the company that built the planes to bomb Pearl Harbor

  • @Dirtfloorfab
    @Dirtfloorfab 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm really glad for this one. I feel bad about asking robert questions. Man this is great info

  • @rix911
    @rix911 4 місяці тому +2

    Robert's the best.

  • @frograna2
    @frograna2 3 місяці тому +1

    This is awesome been following y'all and trying to decide what turbo to get once I'm ready I'm definitely gonna be getting a xona

  • @yolofullsend
    @yolofullsend 4 місяці тому +1

    I've seen a few videos with this guy and he def knows his stuff.. very interesting to watch.. id buy his product based on this alone.

  • @Reaper_f30
    @Reaper_f30 4 місяці тому +1

    This has helped me so much for planning my future full frame kit for my forged b48 next year, thank you

  • @joshuaquilliam2887
    @joshuaquilliam2887 4 місяці тому +3

    Sounds like Robert needs to jump into Diesel truck turbos! We need some of his ideas on our 6.7 Cummins and 6.6 Duramax platforms. We love high pressure ratios and need them to make power. The S400s are great but they don't live long enough when pushed into 4.5 bar and beyond territory. FP was killing it back in my DSM days with the FP Black, and Red. Good to see them still blazing the way.

    • @308racing.
      @308racing. 4 місяці тому +1

      Call him up and talk! They have been doing some diesel testing

  • @whiskeyactual.
    @whiskeyactual. 4 місяці тому +3

    44:30 - The methane bubble example was pretty brilliant. I remember that being one of the theories about the Bermuda triangle.

  • @AnthonyCorsini-bf3mb
    @AnthonyCorsini-bf3mb 2 місяці тому +1

    What a legend.

  • @vargasturbochargertechnolo6371
    @vargasturbochargertechnolo6371 4 місяці тому +1

    Were putting the new 8082 Mid-Frame on our G80 very soon looking for 1500WHP. Excited to see how it does

  • @lamazver
    @lamazver 4 місяці тому +1

    I really wanted to listen this.
    There is so much "easter egg's" that details thst made my mind go :A-ha!
    Thank you!

  • @Fk8td
    @Fk8td 4 місяці тому +1

    I love how he was realistic saying that most four-cylinder making 800 wheel horsepower operate about 40 pounds of boost. I made 849 on 42 pounds but I’m definitely looking into switching to xona. I just have some concerns about spending large amounts of money to switch and maybe not get what I’m after. It be extremely difficult to make more power and still keep the same spool.

  • @christianbrennan1806
    @christianbrennan1806 4 місяці тому +2

    Love Robert. I've have all fp turbos on my dsm. I'm still waiting to installed my jb fb black. Hopefully soon. It's been way too long

  • @DjCBlaq
    @DjCBlaq 4 місяці тому +3

    He’s like a cool ass uncle.

  • @sstevocamaro
    @sstevocamaro 4 місяці тому +2

    Rob reminds me of my tuner. Same personality and almost look the same if Rob cuts his hair. Very into their craft lol.

  • @Elbeerad
    @Elbeerad 4 місяці тому +1

    Tukes you don't miss! keep it going man

  • @IanF-FPV
    @IanF-FPV 4 місяці тому

    Loved loved loved my FP 68HTA turbo in my old 05 Legacy GT. Very good power band with good top end.

  • @bigbrizzle7964
    @bigbrizzle7964 4 місяці тому +2

    Awesome interview!

  • @chaseautry7753
    @chaseautry7753 4 місяці тому +2

    I absolutely love this dude! I might just call and talk with him.

  • @nesmio7378
    @nesmio7378 4 місяці тому +7

    Take a shot every time Robert says "OK"

  • @skullhart
    @skullhart 4 місяці тому +1

    1:37:00 I can't agree. I noticed a much improved turbo response with a turbo blanket.

  • @BrillianceAutoSpa
    @BrillianceAutoSpa 4 місяці тому +3

    I had an FP3065 on my 2G Eagle Talon back in 2007. FP started with DSM's, I believe.

  • @BrokeMahWallet
    @BrokeMahWallet 18 днів тому

    Great insightful podcast!!! I learned so much more about turbos from this!! Thank you guys ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

  • @gregmay2155
    @gregmay2155 3 місяці тому +1

    This is a solid dude!

  • @Realtime1501
    @Realtime1501 4 місяці тому +1

    absolutely best small to mid frame turbos currently on earth no vendor comes close to them up to 76mm

  • @ChrisGuthrie
    @ChrisGuthrie 4 місяці тому +3

    I'd really really like to see him and all motor homie from skunk2 together in the same podcast

  • @ryanmattson1735
    @ryanmattson1735 4 місяці тому +1

    Patiently waiting on the debut of the xona rotor s58 turbos

  • @darrenlivas9814
    @darrenlivas9814 4 місяці тому

    2012-2015 1g dsm got the car with precision 50 trim,balance shafts went that fall winter 2g piston 1g rods fresh head 272,s fp black 33 psi e85 2900lb awd and it ran with 750gsxr and hurt a lot of v8 feelings ..few years after me and car part ways picked up a galant fp green made 510 mustang 30 psi ..loved ever minute of my Forced performance experience

  • @blaqjac21
    @blaqjac21 4 місяці тому +2

    Xona 6564s on my evo x and its phenomenal in vband configuration

  • @chadbenjamin8118
    @chadbenjamin8118 4 місяці тому +1

    Solid podcast. Good info shared.

  • @itspapafrench5182
    @itspapafrench5182 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m by far from a car guy but I love cars and just from watching all these street alpha podcast I feel like I can build a a whole motor but in reality I can barely change a tire 🙃😂🤣😂

  • @MrFord1947
    @MrFord1947 2 місяці тому +1

    Way more tech pod casts the info in this is amazing. Do more vender companys

  • @Otownliving
    @Otownliving 4 місяці тому +1

    🎉 love this podcast

  • @doubletee4391
    @doubletee4391 4 місяці тому +6

    i wonder if Garret would have had the problem with Chinese knock offs if they didn't send their production over there. Seems like Honeywell had it coming.

    • @juddzulch1710
      @juddzulch1710 4 місяці тому

      Well so are there copy pte turbos.

  • @gregw515151
    @gregw515151 4 місяці тому +1

    Great podcast

  • @umakemerandy3669
    @umakemerandy3669 4 місяці тому +1

    The Paul Stamets of compressors lol

  • @PAG11105
    @PAG11105 4 місяці тому

    Great insightful interview but 2 things: 1) there were plenty of oil cooled only OEM turbos. Saab 99/900 / Merkur XRT4, Nissan/Datsun 280ZX are some examples. 2) you'll prob not get any tight/no shaft play turbos with debris packing it together as it would have started to disintegrate the bearings or shaft in short order. If its binding from coking together, then sure.

  • @swollen4ever
    @swollen4ever 4 місяці тому +4

    Xona ftw !

  • @gilliam355
    @gilliam355 4 місяці тому +1

    That talk about the balls was getting intense

  • @lilspicytuna
    @lilspicytuna 4 місяці тому +3

    Even bros sippin lean. Texas different.

  • @jmmyhittle2686
    @jmmyhittle2686 4 місяці тому +1

    Great interview! Would love for you to have Richard Holdener on the podcast……..

  • @Slowcarfastbeans
    @Slowcarfastbeans 4 місяці тому

    Patiently waiting for ZCON episode.

  • @4familyman
    @4familyman 4 місяці тому +2

    Professor Boost! Class is in session

  • @boyflexnv
    @boyflexnv 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video, okayy

  • @MrTDM09
    @MrTDM09 4 місяці тому +1

    Turbo expert in the making lol

  • @luvhcchris
    @luvhcchris 4 місяці тому +2

    BANGER 🔥

  • @BOOT
    @BOOT 2 місяці тому

    Owosso Mi, never thought I'd hear that in a podcast bout turbos

  • @ap1986
    @ap1986 4 місяці тому +5

    *pauses podcast. Goes on a ADHD induced yt rabbit hole on methane bubbles sinking ship. Comes back next day to finish podcast.

  • @EvoKnievelRh
    @EvoKnievelRh 4 місяці тому +1

    I ❤ this guy

  • @rustyshackleford81
    @rustyshackleford81 4 місяці тому +1

    God, why didn't this come out 2 years ago when I built my 06STi. +2mm rods/ ferrea valve train/ tomei poncams/aem340pump, ID1300/ and FP Blue... Wanted to rev out to 8k @ autox, but still spool early for off power corners. Flexfuel didn't pan out(piss on Cobb) and the blue is a turd with cams and pump gas. Still made 400 on dynodynamics even staying conservative with timing.
    The tuner recommended the x500r/ second fuel pump/ and/ Haltech standalone.
    Translation for non Subaru people: spend an extra 8-10k for +150whp. But that includes flex fuel, and a sweet digital dash.

    • @aquapisces24
      @aquapisces24 17 днів тому

      400 WHP on only pump gas?

    • @rustyshackleford81
      @rustyshackleford81 17 днів тому

      @@aquapisces24 yea, ID1300s and parallel fuel lines/ there's plenty of 93octane on tap to make power. Didn't even tweak base fuel pressure. Still waiting on ethanol, might just get multiple tunes for when I can get the 🌽 juice from a few towns over.

  • @basiliootero5883
    @basiliootero5883 4 місяці тому +1

    Okay okay okay 😂😂 great info

  • @boosted2.4_sky
    @boosted2.4_sky 3 місяці тому +1

    3:38...Ecotec ☝️
    28:10... he's not wrong..it's how EVERYONE already says it so it just aligns...

  • @321ror
    @321ror Місяць тому

    On the statement referring to the Chinese turbos.
    I read that the US patent law is limited so after a few years the patents are publicly available, a similar example will be on older Glock pistols whereby there is a flood of copies with no legal consequences.
    When I stand back and look at the situation, are we moving into an era where long established companies will need to pull a rabbit out of the hat from a R&D perspective as the Chinese copies are priced so competitve to gain market share, the support is not bad, repair kits are available and i honestly think that their strategy might actually work.
    Food for thought especially when you are competing for price and the new kid on the block is 40% cheaper 😮

    • @chippyjohn1
      @chippyjohn1 27 днів тому

      Just think of all the laws against war crimes that the US ignores. Big powers play by their own rules.

  • @bigjdm5460
    @bigjdm5460 4 місяці тому

    Great episode , learned a few things as well. Glad I saw this before ordering a Garrett G35-900……..now I’m dead set on a Garrett G35-900 .83A/R

    • @4familyman
      @4familyman 4 місяці тому

      Or get a Xona ;). If you have a small displacement motor, the g series aero isn’t ideal for the PR needed to make power.

    • @bigjdm5460
      @bigjdm5460 4 місяці тому

      @@4familyman 9.6:1 compression forged 2jz VVTI built head GSC s1 cams. E85