Idk if you are still using it but don't sit your gpu on a anti static bag if it doesn't have a back plate because Anita static bags are conduct electricity and can short out your gpu . Your gpu can't get damaged from static if it's already grounded by the psu.
I only did this set up as experimental so i havent done this since i posted the video here. Also thanks for pointing that out about the anti static bag. I didnt think much of it other than thinking it would serve as an insulator.
I gotta give you props. This is bad brilliant. I would have never thought about using an M.2 ssd enclosure to run a pcie riser. Reminds me of way back in the day at radioshack looking for several different adapters to make somthing work lol.
this is awesome, ive been looking for a budget egpu setup. idk why i thought of this sooner. might end up making a follow up video to this video on my channel.
@@cmactech yeah thanks, what would you recommend for a budget gpu I was thinking the and rx 560 4gb. And also can you plug in the Egpu into a thunder bolt 2 dock and just have it connect with one cable or does it not work like that?
@@edward-jk4ol that’ll be a good card for TB2 if you can find an adapter. Bottom line is you need speeds of at least 20 gbps and you need to have a separate psu for the card like in the video.
Cool video, but what constitutes the enclosure, the room it's sitting in? I would love to see this done DIY in some type of box for all the components.
Yoo I Have. A Question. I have a Mid 2014 Macbook Pri i7 Quad Core with thunderbolt 2. Since Thunderbolt 2 Is Capped At 20 Gbps Can i buy a 20 Gbps M.2 Enclosure to save my money instead of expensive 40 Gbps will it work?
Thunderbolt 2 should work if you can find the adapter. But I am unsure of any m.2 to thunderbolt 2 adapters. I’m unsure how well a gpu will do on it thought If it’s newer than 2017.
If we joint the wire to power on the smps does it damages the life span of smps ? and while joining the two wire does the smps runs in full wattage like 450w, 650w, 750w or only takes the needed watts ? (like RTX 3060 on idle only takes 12w when rendering 170w) Btw i got the Riser from Amazon...! Thanks for the Video..
@@cmactech thank you. should usb-4 work too or does it need to be thunderbolt? there are a lot of fast usb-4 versions that mention thunderbol compatible.
@@cmactech It's not the only requirement though, the issue I had with one is that the OS would only see a storage device. I'm afraid to buy the wrong thing and it's hard to see if the device supports things like GPU
@@cmactech sorry one more question! The Thunderbolt 3 Enclosure you shared supports 15gb/s. There’s other ones supports 40gb/s for 140$ (so expensive). Do you think 15gb works well for rtx 2060super ?
No such thing as too Many questions! Tb3 is 30 gbs. Anything less than 30 gbs is not tb3. The pcb of the ssd enclosure must have a tb3 connector on it! Rated 30 gbs or higher.
Does the thunderbolt to nvme adapter use a pcie x2 or x4 connection? Because i could only find it to be sn x2. Wouldn't that limit the gpu significantly?
Mine uses pcie 3 speeds because mine is thunderbolt 3. Overall, you won’t get full performance. But from what I remember I didn’t notice any huge drops in performance because the card you see in the video is pcie 3. But yes using any interface (the thunderbolt adapter) that is slower than the gpu such as using thunderbolt 3 with a pcie 4 card will be a good drop in performance.
I don't want 2 power cables running to the wall (1 for the psu to power the gpu and the other for the laptop) so is there anything I can do to get a 1 cable solution?
Unfortunately you have to use your laptop charger. Because, the M.2 enclosure is a passive. I wish i didnt have to use my laptop charger too but you get used to it and it barely takes much space anyway. (Surface Pro 8).
@@gigahertzmedia in theory if its active, then yes. But i doubt there are any. Almost all ssd enclosures are passive. Unless you go with maybe somesort of hub that has a m.2 slot. But those are expensive.
Have you had any trouble with the jumper connected to the 24pin? Does your gpu startup with powering on your laptop or does it power on while u turn on the power supply?
Ahhh man its been a while since I used this set up. But I never ran into any issues. GPU needs to be powered on externally with the external PSU to work.
what if the display port from exp gdc is directly connected to thunderbold, using display port to thunderbold? Please replay my question , thanks so much
Maybe it might work for the display but it still needs to be powered by an external PSU and that needs at least transfer speeds of 30gbs to work (thunderbolt 3 or higher).
This is really just experimental. But if enough traction gets on this video maybe i will design a case and upload the stl file to download so anyone can 3d print it!
If I want to only connect to my laptop without setting up an external monitor, do I need software settings or BIOS settings, or can I use it directly connect to my laptop?
There is something called a headless gs. Its an adapter with a hdmi connector you plug into your laptop. This will be needed to Emulate a second monitor to your internal display to activate the egpu.
Could i make my pc'motherboard as an eGPU: connect the motherboard to electricity (disconnect all other cables: hdd...) And connect the graphics card to my laptop hdmi and to sata slot on laptop'motherboard?
You can’t do that with 2 motherboards. Each motherboard works on their own. If your laptop doesn’t have thunderbolt 3 or higher, you can still get the adapter I have in the video and instead of using the external nvme enclosure, you can just use the nvme to pcie adapter and plug the nvme end to your laptop’s nvme slot.
@@cmactech so the graphics card dock on desktop motherboard will not be function if i removed every other part from it (cpu, ram, hdd/ssd) of course let the power supply plugged in?
Nice. The purpose of this video is just another way to use a gpu and cheapest possible solution. At least from what i came up with. I figured id share it to the world! Definitely a real eGPU would work better.
Hey! I want to do something exactly like this but would the setup work without the m.2? Is there another "adapter" that only uses the gpu and a tb3 output?
@@cmactech Honestly it would be kinda cool to see you make a case/enclosure. Update the name of this video "- Part 1" and then have a "Part 2" video making an enclosure.
Idk if you are still using it but don't sit your gpu on a anti static bag if it doesn't have a back plate because Anita static bags are conduct electricity and can short out your gpu . Your gpu can't get damaged from static if it's already grounded by the psu.
I only did this set up as experimental so i havent done this since i posted the video here. Also thanks for pointing that out about the anti static bag. I didnt think much of it other than thinking it would serve as an insulator.
@@cmactech Is there a Thunderbolt to PCIe available without buying the enclosure?
there is on ADT -Link website but they are expensive and a bit bulky@@suzesiviter6083
Wow, interesting..!
Thanks for showing and testing this 'frankenstein' setup.
I am happy you enjoyed it! Thanks! I’ll be uploading more soon!
I gotta give you props. This is bad brilliant. I would have never thought about using an M.2 ssd enclosure to run a pcie riser. Reminds me of way back in the day at radioshack looking for several different adapters to make somthing work lol.
Thanks ! I just find different ways to make things work are pretty interesting lol.
this is awesome, ive been looking for a budget egpu setup. idk why i thought of this sooner. might end up making a follow up video to this video on my channel.
Glad this helped!
@@cmactech yeah thanks, what would you recommend for a budget gpu I was thinking the and rx 560 4gb. And also can you plug in the Egpu into a thunder bolt 2 dock and just have it connect with one cable or does it not work like that?
@@edward-jk4ol that’ll be a good card for TB2 if you can find an adapter. Bottom line is you need speeds of at least 20 gbps and you need to have a separate psu for the card like in the video.
can you hotplug the egpu or do i have to plug the egpu first before turning on laptop then shutting down laptop before unplugging the egpu?
can I use an enclosure with a speed of 10gps or must the minimum be 20gpbs?
Must be at least thunderbolt 2. But nowadays, you should het thunderbolt 3 or 4
Cool video, but what constitutes the enclosure, the room it's sitting in? I would love to see this done DIY in some type of box for all the components.
Definetily on my radar to 3D print an enclosure!
Yoo I Have. A Question.
I have a Mid 2014 Macbook Pri i7 Quad Core with thunderbolt 2.
Since Thunderbolt 2 Is Capped At 20 Gbps
Can i buy a 20 Gbps M.2 Enclosure to save my money instead of expensive 40 Gbps will it work?
Thunderbolt 2 should work if you can find the adapter. But I am unsure of any m.2 to thunderbolt 2 adapters. I’m unsure how well a gpu will do on it thought If it’s newer than 2017.
If we joint the wire to power on the smps does it damages the life span of smps ? and while joining the two wire does the smps runs in full wattage like 450w, 650w, 750w or only takes the needed watts ? (like RTX 3060 on idle only takes 12w when rendering 170w) Btw i got the Riser from Amazon...!
Thanks for the Video..
Thanks for stopping by! No it shouldnt impact the lifespan. Also, itll still only take the amount needed from your gpu
Thank you..
the tb3 thing is over 100 bucks by itself. You know which types work? my cheap usb-c to NVMe only shows as storage , thanks
@VincentTubed needs to be tb3 or faster. Tb2 MIGHT work but not as well. Speeds have to be at least 20gbs or more
@@cmactech thank you. should usb-4 work too or does it need to be thunderbolt? there are a lot of fast usb-4 versions that mention thunderbol compatible.
@VincentTubed USB 4 is good. As long as speeds are at least 20 gbs.... USB 4 is faster so it'll work
@@cmactech It's not the only requirement though, the issue I had with one is that the OS would only see a storage device. I'm afraid to buy the wrong thing and it's hard to see if the device supports things like GPU
Is there any cheaper option ? I found some other m.2 to pcie for 40$ 10gb/s but not sure if they will work for this
The m.2 must be at least 30 gbs for this to work. 10gbs is to slow. Must be TB3 or higher.
@@cmactech ok thx brother
No problem! Thanks for checking out my videos!
@@cmactech sorry one more question!
The Thunderbolt 3 Enclosure you shared supports 15gb/s. There’s other ones supports 40gb/s for 140$ (so expensive). Do you think 15gb works well for rtx 2060super ?
No such thing as too
Many questions! Tb3 is 30 gbs. Anything less than 30 gbs is not tb3. The pcb of the ssd enclosure must have a tb3 connector on it! Rated 30 gbs or higher.
Does the thunderbolt to nvme adapter use a pcie x2 or x4 connection? Because i could only find it to be sn x2. Wouldn't that limit the gpu significantly?
Mine uses pcie 3 speeds because mine is thunderbolt 3. Overall, you won’t get full performance. But from what I remember I didn’t notice any huge drops in performance because the card you see in the video is pcie 3. But yes using any interface (the thunderbolt adapter) that is slower than the gpu such as using thunderbolt 3 with a pcie 4 card will be a good drop in performance.
I don't want 2 power cables running to the wall (1 for the psu to power the gpu and the other for the laptop) so is there anything I can do to get a 1 cable solution?
Unfortunately you have to use your laptop charger. Because, the M.2 enclosure is a passive. I wish i didnt have to use my laptop charger too but you get used to it and it barely takes much space anyway. (Surface Pro 8).
@@cmactech If I manage to find an active one, do you think it would work?
@@gigahertzmedia in theory if its active, then yes. But i doubt there are any. Almost all ssd enclosures are passive. Unless you go with maybe somesort of hub that has a m.2 slot. But those are expensive.
@@cmactech Okay I will check it out! Thanks!
@@gigahertzmedia np! I am happy to help the best i can!
Have you had any trouble with the jumper connected to the 24pin? Does your gpu startup with powering on your laptop or does it power on while u turn on the power supply?
Ahhh man its been a while since I used this set up. But I never ran into any issues. GPU needs to be powered on externally with the external PSU to work.
Looking good need to have the tools to build the enclosure and screw it into it
Will definitely do that lol
what if the display port from exp gdc is directly connected to thunderbold, using display port to thunderbold?
Please replay my question , thanks so much
Maybe it might work for the display but it still needs to be powered by an external PSU and that needs at least transfer speeds of 30gbs to work (thunderbolt 3 or higher).
@@cmactech thanks bro for your reply me
How many cables will I need for this?
A couple
A couple
Hi, can you take everything apart then remake the video of you putting it together while explaining?
Would love too. But i dont gave that gpu anymore or have a spare gpu to try. But when i do, i will make one!
What kind of mini itx case would you put this in
This is really just experimental. But if enough traction gets on this video maybe i will design a case and upload the stl file to download so anyone can 3d print it!
Can u do some benchmark
Good idea. Maybe i will. I thought about it but just wanted to share this concept i came up with. Ill see what i can do!
If I want to only connect to my laptop without setting up an external monitor, do I need software settings or BIOS settings, or can I use it directly connect to my laptop?
There is something called a headless gs. Its an adapter with a hdmi connector you plug into your laptop. This will be needed to
Emulate a second monitor to your internal display to activate the egpu.
What kind of external m.2 enclosure guts did you use?
Link is in description
How much of a performance cut was the GPU having??
Actually from what I remember, not too much
The problem is in India the 30 gbps m.2 to thunderbolt dock is atleast 200$@@cmactech
Where the "ENCLOSURE" is? I did not see it
Don't see much of an "ENCLOSURE" here, but still cool that it works 😄
Haha you’re right! If this video gets more views I know I’ll hear more of comments like yours hahaha. Maybe I should take “enclosure” out of my title
Could i make my pc'motherboard as an eGPU: connect the motherboard to electricity (disconnect all other cables: hdd...) And connect the graphics card to my laptop hdmi and to sata slot on laptop'motherboard?
You can’t do that with 2 motherboards. Each motherboard works on their own. If your laptop doesn’t have thunderbolt 3 or higher, you can still get the adapter I have in the video and instead of using the external nvme enclosure, you can just use the nvme to pcie adapter and plug the nvme end to your laptop’s nvme slot.
@@cmactech so the graphics card dock on desktop motherboard will not be function if i removed every other part from it (cpu, ram, hdd/ssd) of course let the power supply plugged in?
@@LawatheMEid no. motherboard architecture does not work like that. Just get the adapter and use it in your laptops nvme slot. It’s only $20.
@@cmactech thanks for your respond.
@@LawatheMEidno problem! I’m happy to help!
Hey, do you need an ssd on the pcb board? Isn't it possible to connect the nvme of the riser to the nvme slot on the pcb board?
Hi! Thats what is happening. Where the nvme card would usually go, you are putting the pcie to nvme adapter in there instead.
Does it utilize full thunderbolt 3 speeds or just USB 3.2 (type c)?
Yes. Its needs to be at Thunderbolt 3 speeds (at least 30gbs) or higher for this to work.
@@cmactech can this VGA running using SSD enclosure with Thunderbolt 3/4 port? help me, or must buy 1 package with VGA Riser...
@@agungafandicom doesnt matter what you use for display. Just make sure you are using at least thunderbolt 3 or higher for the External PSU.
@@cmactech Thanks dude
Will it work for Mac to?
Yup. As long as it has a supported gpu for mac
Nice DIY. I gotta find a good case for mine otherwise the cats will get to it
Yup definitely not the most practical way but maybe the cheapest way to use a GPU haha! Thanks for watching!
would this work on a 2016 mac pro?
No
Only if it has Thunderbolt 3 or higher. I am not sure macbook 2016 has Thunderbolt 3
do the power of the external graphic card get combined with the internal card? or will it only use the external card?
Good question. Since i am using an external monitor directly to the egpu, it only uses the egpu.
I dont think you SLI integrated and dedicated graphics
@@cmactechis this m.2 to thunderbolt fast enough?
Smart
this simply makes the cost of eGPU's justifiable. I mean, I got an open box Booststation for £120 last month.
Nice. The purpose of this video is just another way to use a gpu and cheapest possible solution. At least from what i came up with. I figured id share it to the world! Definitely a real eGPU would work better.
ahhhhm... the nvme TB adapter alone costs 90$ at least for me here in europe...
will this work with any m.2 to thunderbolt?
Yes
Hey! I want to do something exactly like this but would the setup work without the m.2? Is there another "adapter" that only uses the gpu and a tb3 output?
good question. Not that I know of. Ive only ran into the pcie 16x slot to m.2 and havent seen any others. But if I do I will be sure to update you!
i guess they are not clear on the definition of "enclosure"
Enclosure would be recommended for sure if using a homemade egpu like this. But this is just experiential.
this uses a tablet pc what's the name ?
In the video i am using a surface pro 8
Cool, man!
Thanks man!
Kinda missed the whole "enclosure" part of the equation here.
You’re right. Not an enclosure. Any suggestions on what I can rename the title to ?
@@cmactech Honestly it would be kinda cool to see you make a case/enclosure. Update the name of this video "- Part 1" and then have a "Part 2" video making an enclosure.
That’s a good idea. I do have a 3D printer. It crossed my mind before but since you mentioned it… I think I’ll do this! Thanks for suggesting this!
dont know how to tell you, but none of that is "enclosed"
Hmmm. I never thought of it that way. Literally, you are correct. No case = no enclosure.
@@cmactech yeah its just all layed out on a table man
@@gotem370 loll
you're the man now dog!
I'm surprised that didn't blow up... The GPU was sitting on that antistatic bag, I was waiting for it to short out. But otherwise, cool.
The bottleneck on this thing must be insane. 4 lanes of PCIE 3.0 on a 16x pcie 4 designed card
I definitely recommend a pcie 4.0 slot for newer cards.
Looks dangerous...
Nope completely safe!