my GOODNESS.. I am so happy I found your channel through Jon the INTJ lol..To hear women speak about topics and life interpretations SO SIMILAR to me..:: Happy Tears :: it really makes me feel not alone.. Having the invisible antenna that picks things up a little further out..in ANY direction when you haven't learned to ground...which causes so much internal turbulence and literal ailments. Anyway... just nice to see you all able to become aware and find ways to manage your energy better and better..and in turn find roles in your life that seem to fit your desired outcomes.
OMG. Rena's comment about feeling she was an introvert is sooooo validating for me. Im an ENFJ who needs a lot of alone time. I recently learned of the HSP designation, and it is 100% me. Add to that 2 of my top 5 Clifton Strengths are Intellectual and Learner (which also require a lot of processing time), and it's easy to see why I doubted and fought that Extrovert designation for me.
Hearing about the different ways our mental/emotional states effect our physical bodies has always fascinated me- thank you for such a great conversation with such warm people!
Yeah, the mind-body connection still amazes me! Thanks for watching, Robyn. Since you liked this episode, I thought I would let you know that part two of this series will be coming out soon. We will be discussing the science behind HSP in that one. Stay tuned. 🙂
@@JoyceMeng22I find it intriguing how this might be related to the connectional properties of the vagus nerve to the limbic system.( bandwith and receptive sensitivity) And how altering the gut microbiome might adjust the sensitivity. Ok it is already mentioned just got to that part of the video where she mentions it.
@@JoyceMeng22 I hope the other side of the coin with thinker dominant HSP, will also be covered. Because I think the feeler dominants will be much more aware and ready to accept the realisations that can help them.
You guys might want to look in to an all meat diet. Had all the same problems and experiences shared here. Most probably linked to histamine intolerance but not totally alligning with that. Went on an all fresh unprocessed meat diet and all my problems vanished.
This really resonates with me, the fact you all went so strongly in to developing your thinking in early years to counteract the perceived oversensitivity by your surroundings, but always feeling the strong resistance from deviating from your intended path.
💥This panel really hit home!!!! I definitely have NF in my code, was diagnosed with autoimmunity and at some point in life had to retrain my limbic brain and autonomic nervous system through a self-directed neuroplasticity program in order to overcome a bunch of disabling central sensitization syndromes and hypersensitivities with which I suddenly had to cope and later found out that had been accumulating over time and that were rooted in unresolved trauma. So thank you all for showing up, sharing your stories and perspectives, and raising awareness about this topic 💖💖💖💖
24:00 ♡ Carol, so sorry you had to go through that. My ❤ hearth. You deserved to be understood, taken care of and embraced. Empathy here, listening and a few huge tears rolling of my face. Thank you so much for sharing these meaningful stories, tales and experiences so we highlight why several experiences are important to "get". 😊
Anne, like you, i have to be more intentional about the things I watch. I had to stop watching the Marvel movies because they were too stimulating. I spend most of my viewing on UA-cam now.
This is a very interesting and helpful discussion. I appreciate the way you have engaged positively with various challenges. Also your willingness to share your experience.😊
I don't know how to 'human'. I might as well be an alien from another planet. I observe and take everything in and can't ignore the input. I get overwhelmed with it all. I found as a kid that my intense emotions made me feel physically sick, so I decided to ignore and suppress my emotions so that they wouldn't make me sick, but it didn't work if the emotions were too intense. Worry, stress, panic, etc. genuinely made me sick and I was ill frequently when I had to deal with things that drove me crazy like swim lessons I 'had' to take even though I was afraid of water, school classes where some classmates were cruel to me, jobs later on that required me to interact with angry people, etc. All of those things stressed me out to the point of being physically sick. I've often had to become almost a hermit for periods of time in order to recover from the outside world. I enjoy being alone though so each time I retreat, it gets harder to reemerge. I remember watching shows like Mork and Mindy and ALF when I was a kid and thinking that I was more like the alien than the human characters. I wished I had an egg pod to recharge in like Mork. We really are spirits having a human experience. One thing that helps me relax and destress is to remember that the physical world is temporary but the soul is eternal. No matter how bad things seem at the time, they are only temporary. Yes, being hypersensitive is tough. It's like I can't mute everything around me. I can tell when something is wrong or is about to go wrong. It's exhausting being so sensitive to everything. I've heard a good analogy that people like us are like a microphone turned all the way up that picks up every noise while some other people seem to have their microphones turned almost off and are oblivious. I do try to find positive ways to channel this ability. One of them is to do jobs where I'm an inspector or troubleshooter because I can come into a situation or examine a problem and see, hear, feel, smell, sense etc. everything about it so that I can find the solution to the problem, flaw in the object, typos in the text, missed opportunity, etc. Then, I report that to the client and help them. That's rewarding when it happens.
Very interesting discussion. I was the odd duck, and I still am, and I know my mom is HSP as well. I'd like to check out that book Carol mentioned. Thanks, Joyce and the panel. 😊
It would be great to also acknowledge that HSPs are NOT necessarily NF types. Any type really can be highly sensitive. If you’re a highly sensitive thinker you just value logic over emotions but it doesn’t say anything about your level of sensitivity. Personally I’m a highly sensitive ENTJ and I know fellow ENTJs who also are HSPs.
Yes, good point! It would be a good disclaimer to say at the beginning of the episode. We do end up acknowledging that all types can be HSPs, and your type may alter how your HSP characteristics manifest. It would be nice to interview a panel of personality types that are HSPs and not NFs one day to see the comparison.
@@JoyceMeng22 No, Joyce, I didnt take it that way. I was just adding my 2 worthless cents. Lol... The percentages are interesting. So many enjoyed the topic... I need to learn to keep my 2 cents to myself sometimes. Sorry 'bout that.
There is special software I saw people use to improve quality. Maybe a written audio improving guide could help wirh distance to microphones, microphone hardware used, good internet (cable other wifi). Experiment with fun 😊
my GOODNESS.. I am so happy I found your channel through Jon the INTJ lol..To hear women speak about topics and life interpretations SO SIMILAR to me..:: Happy Tears :: it really makes me feel not alone.. Having the invisible antenna that picks things up a little further out..in ANY direction when you haven't learned to ground...which causes so much internal turbulence and literal ailments. Anyway... just nice to see you all able to become aware and find ways to manage your energy better and better..and in turn find roles in your life that seem to fit your desired outcomes.
You found your people! 💗 Happy to hear you were able to feel a sense of relief and validation from listening to these NFs speak.
OMG. Rena's comment about feeling she was an introvert is sooooo validating for me. Im an ENFJ who needs a lot of alone time. I recently learned of the HSP designation, and it is 100% me. Add to that 2 of my top 5 Clifton Strengths are Intellectual and Learner (which also require a lot of processing time), and it's easy to see why I doubted and fought that Extrovert designation for me.
Hearing about the different ways our mental/emotional states effect our physical bodies has always fascinated me- thank you for such a great conversation with such warm people!
Yeah, the mind-body connection still amazes me! Thanks for watching, Robyn. Since you liked this episode, I thought I would let you know that part two of this series will be coming out soon. We will be discussing the science behind HSP in that one. Stay tuned. 🙂
@@JoyceMeng22I find it intriguing how this might be related to the connectional properties of the vagus nerve to the limbic system.( bandwith and receptive sensitivity) And how altering the gut microbiome might adjust the sensitivity. Ok it is already mentioned just got to that part of the video where she mentions it.
@@JoyceMeng22 I hope the other side of the coin with thinker dominant HSP, will also be covered. Because I think the feeler dominants will be much more aware and ready to accept the realisations that can help them.
@@JoyceMeng22 Cool, I'll be watching!
You guys might want to look in to an all meat diet. Had all the same problems and experiences shared here. Most probably linked to histamine intolerance but not totally alligning with that. Went on an all fresh unprocessed meat diet and all my problems vanished.
This really resonates with me, the fact you all went so strongly in to developing your thinking in early years to counteract the perceived oversensitivity by your surroundings, but always feeling the strong resistance from deviating from your intended path.
💥This panel really hit home!!!! I definitely have NF in my code, was diagnosed with autoimmunity and at some point in life had to retrain my limbic brain and autonomic nervous system through a self-directed neuroplasticity program in order to overcome a bunch of disabling central sensitization syndromes and hypersensitivities with which I suddenly had to cope and later found out that had been accumulating over time and that were rooted in unresolved trauma. So thank you all for showing up, sharing your stories and perspectives, and raising awareness about this topic 💖💖💖💖
Glad to finally see these types coming together once more. - enfp-a 4w5
I always thought they were the exact same thing. Looking forward to the premiere :)
I appreciate the eager anticipation :) Thank you for giving the video a listen!
24:00 ♡ Carol, so sorry you had to go through that. My ❤ hearth. You deserved to be understood, taken care of and embraced. Empathy here, listening and a few huge tears rolling of my face. Thank you so much for sharing these meaningful stories, tales and experiences so we highlight why several experiences are important to "get". 😊
Please remind me to bring this up during our session this Thursday 🙏
Anne, like you, i have to be more intentional about the things I watch. I had to stop watching the Marvel movies because they were too stimulating. I spend most of my viewing on UA-cam now.
This is a very interesting and helpful discussion. I appreciate the way you have engaged positively with various challenges. Also your willingness to share your experience.😊
yall are helping me so much right now
I don't know how to 'human'. I might as well be an alien from another planet. I observe and take everything in and can't ignore the input. I get overwhelmed with it all. I found as a kid that my intense emotions made me feel physically sick, so I decided to ignore and suppress my emotions so that they wouldn't make me sick, but it didn't work if the emotions were too intense.
Worry, stress, panic, etc. genuinely made me sick and I was ill frequently when I had to deal with things that drove me crazy like swim lessons I 'had' to take even though I was afraid of water, school classes where some classmates were cruel to me, jobs later on that required me to interact with angry people, etc. All of those things stressed me out to the point of being physically sick.
I've often had to become almost a hermit for periods of time in order to recover from the outside world. I enjoy being alone though so each time I retreat, it gets harder to reemerge.
I remember watching shows like Mork and Mindy and ALF when I was a kid and thinking that I was more like the alien than the human characters. I wished I had an egg pod to recharge in like Mork.
We really are spirits having a human experience. One thing that helps me relax and destress is to remember that the physical world is temporary but the soul is eternal. No matter how bad things seem at the time, they are only temporary.
Yes, being hypersensitive is tough. It's like I can't mute everything around me. I can tell when something is wrong or is about to go wrong. It's exhausting being so sensitive to everything.
I've heard a good analogy that people like us are like a microphone turned all the way up that picks up every noise while some other people seem to have their microphones turned almost off and are oblivious.
I do try to find positive ways to channel this ability. One of them is to do jobs where I'm an inspector or troubleshooter because I can come into a situation or examine a problem and see, hear, feel, smell, sense etc. everything about it so that I can find the solution to the problem, flaw in the object, typos in the text, missed opportunity, etc. Then, I report that to the client and help them. That's rewarding when it happens.
This is awesome, thank you!
You're very welcome! Glad it was helpful. :)
Ahhhhh as this - I feel this 👏👏👌👌
Thank You
You get it on an experiential level! I'm happy it was emotionally moving for you to listen to, Dani. 🙂
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Very interesting discussion. I was the odd duck, and I still am, and I know my mom is HSP as well. I'd like to check out that book Carol mentioned. Thanks, Joyce and the panel. 😊
Nice to know other odd ducks exist out there! You are quite the swan to us, Stephanie.
@@JoyceMeng22 Thank you! 😌💜
Thanks everyone really interesting to learn as an ENFJ-T 😊
It would be great to also acknowledge that HSPs are NOT necessarily NF types. Any type really can be highly sensitive. If you’re a highly sensitive thinker you just value logic over emotions but it doesn’t say anything about your level of sensitivity. Personally I’m a highly sensitive ENTJ and I know fellow ENTJs who also are HSPs.
Yes, good point! It would be a good disclaimer to say at the beginning of the episode. We do end up acknowledging that all types can be HSPs, and your type may alter how your HSP characteristics manifest.
It would be nice to interview a panel of personality types that are HSPs and not NFs one day to see the comparison.
@@JoyceMeng22 oh ok, my bad, I didn’t finish the video👍. Looking forward to those future panels!😀
I agree. I am not HSP.
To be clear, Highly Sensitive People make up 15%-20% of the population. So not all NFs are HSPs. My apologies if I may have implied that
@@JoyceMeng22 No, Joyce, I didnt take it that way. I was just adding my 2 worthless cents. Lol...
The percentages are interesting. So many enjoyed the topic... I need to learn to keep my 2 cents to myself sometimes. Sorry 'bout that.
Im also Reiki and do tai chi 😊
The sound quality in this video could really be better
If someone could teach me how to improve the sound quality I would be grateful!
No it can’t it’s perfectly fine that’s just how video calls work.
There is special software I saw people use to improve quality. Maybe a written audio improving guide could help wirh distance to microphones, microphone hardware used, good internet (cable other wifi). Experiment with fun 😊
Oh and I mean video call software for presentation.
And these little foam thingies that suck in echo help also
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