ngl, the adaptative armor was the perfect excuse as to why the characters look different from year to year, without making them being transformed, mutated or powered up by some 3rd party every single time.
Had they continued the gimmick, they could've had another run of collectible mask or even armor. I'd imagine it'd be like; Desert Miru, underwater miru, *insert terrain/condition* Hau etc. I thinky they thinkered with this idea back then, and it's apparent with Stars "collectible" armor.
One additional thing to mention is the Dark Hunter "Savage", who is also a Tia Hordika, but he never was healed and the power of the venom overtook him completely.
While I love the Toa Mahri overall, I did find the Toa Hordika (just like the Toa Metru) explored their characters the most, because those story arcs had the most breathing room, where events took places over weeks or months, as opposed to several days in the Ignition arc. I do miss the slower pacing of those Metru years...
Mmm, yeah, honestly the character aspect is the best part of the Hordika. It really pushed them to their limits and the subtle differences in how each of them responded to it are pretty revealing. And yeah the shift in pacing from the Metru arc to the Ignition arc is pretty wild, Ignition moves at a lightning fast pace. I think its partially due to there being more named characters, as those were the first years the canister set villains were fully sentient characters
I think it would be interesting to discuss story/visual inaccuracies in the physical sets. Things like how in the comics Gali’s mask isn’t transparent except for the visor, how Nuparu Mahri’s set doesn’t have his sword, how the Rahkshi have lower arms and proper hands in most of their non-set appearances, all the times characters have been given proper hands, and whatever the heck is going on with Shadow Titan Takanuva
The Toa Inika will always stay my favourite because of the Voya Nui arc. Let me explain : -Toa Nuva basically come in "almost-hell-island" -Toa Nuva got 100% kicked by Piraka -Our six new Toa arrive on Voya Nui -Sweet taste of justice when the Inika get the upper hand on Piraka (more or less I admit they didn't simply go and crush them)
Weird coincidence, but I was just thinking about the Nuva Symbols (how much of an inconvenience they were for our heroes, how weird it is that they only existed for this one Toa team and no others, and how they only showed up as a plot convenience for this one arc and then never came up again) for the millionth time in my life the same day you came out with this video. But hey, great video, HeroraNuva. Even when it’s stuff that I already know, I do still like videos that list and explain stuff like this from any franchise I’m into. By the way, here’s a theory I’ve been pondering on for a while, and you’re more than welcome to use it in a future video. If you look at all the Toa sets that have ever come out, you’ll notice that the Toa Metru, Lhikan, and the Toa Hagah all have the same armor design. Given their positions in the timeline, and that they come from various places in the Matoran universe, my theory is that this is the default build of any Toa; the Toa at its most basic. Just hear me out before you criticize. With the exceptions of the Hagah’s extra armor and their new weapons, as far as we know, none of the nine aforementioned heroes ever went through any drastic physical changes in their lives as Toa (until they became Hordika, Turaga, or Rahaga, that is). When the Matoran of Metru Nui became Toa Metru, this was what they looked like. So let’s assume that the same applied to the Toa Hagah, Lhikan, and probably the rest of the Toa Mangai. (By extension to this theory, I guess the Metru Nui Matoran design would be the default Matoran design of their universe.) Now let’s look at the other Toa we know of, who have different armor designs. The Toa Mata? Well, not only were they never Matoran, but they were some of the earliest Toa, and ones built for a very specific purpose. That their armor design is different from the default - which may not even have existed when they were first made - doesn’t surprise me. And as you just pointed out, their Nuva forms are just improvements on their Mata ones. (I know it’s harder to apply the theory to their Phantoka and Mistika forms, but I say that’s just Lego lazily repeating the Inika build because it was successful.) The Toa Inika? Well, before they were Toa, they were Matoran of Metru Nui whose bodies had been diminished by the Matoran spheres, and then upgraded in the Rebuilding. Not exactly the “normal” build to begin with. And when they did become Toa, it wasn’t from a Toa Stone like most other Toa, but from the power of the Red Star. Given the lightning powers, laser weapons, and organic masks, an unusual armor design can kind of be expected. And given that all this, plus the Mask of Life in the waters of the Pit, lead up to their Mahri forms, no shock that their armor designs were off the beaten path as well. Helryx? Not only was she never a Matoran, but she’s the first Toa. You can make the argument that she’s kind of a prototype, so of course she wouldn’t look the same at all. Krakua? Okay, this one having a different armor design is a little harder to explain, but here are my best theories. One, we’ve never seen a De-Matoran, so maybe their armor is vastly different from any other Matoran’s we’ve ever seen - resulting in Toa armor that looks vastly different from any other Toa’s we’ve ever seen. Two, we don’t know for sure that he got his powers the “natural” way, via a Toa Stone. BioSector just says that he got the “assistance” of the Order of Mata Nui. That doesn’t necessarily mean that there was no Toa Stone involved, but it also doesn’t necessarily mean there was. And if the source of the Toa Inika’s transformation is any indication, becoming a Toa through any means other than a Toa Stone could result in a wildly different look. And third, Krakua is a bit of an odd Toa who works for the Order. It could just be that whoever handles the forges on Daxia did something special for his armor. Nikila? Call me crazy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she actually does just have the basic Metru build. It’s just hidden under a bunch of extra plates and decor like the Toa Hagah. But yeah, I admit this one’s a bit of a stretch. And finally, Lesovikk. The only version of him we’ve ever seen is his form after being mutated by the Pit waters (though he does look a lot like the Toa Mahri, which is odd). Maybe it’s just because I built a MOC of him pre-mutation using the Metru build, but I honestly believe he did have the Metru/Lhikan/Hagah design armor when he first started out. If there are any other Toa we’ve ever seen that I didn’t mention, let me know. Maybe they’ll fit into my theory, or maybe they’ll burn it down. In closing, I’d like to go on record and say that I didn’t just concoct this theory because I love the Toa Metru build so much (though I do - I’m actually working on a short story starring an original Toa I built (who has the Metru build), and am hoping to get it canonized), or because I’m a control freak who’s trying to make everything the way I want it to be. I’m just trying to connect some dots and make some order out of the chaos in the lore. If I ever meet Greg Farshtey, I hope to run this theory by him and get it confirmed. Anyway, this has been my theory on Toa armor designs. Like it, hate it, do what you want with it. Ciao. PS: Hey, HeroraNuva. I’m surprised you didn’t mention any of the “powered-up” Toa in the Dark Hunters - especially Savage when you went into the Hordika analysis.
6:30 "Artakha did it" to explain anything remotely confusing about a story's plot has meme potential Wild headcanon here. Savage is meant to be a Toa Hordika as well, but if you look at his build/setform he's way more muscular and nearly twice as tall as the other six Hordika. I believe that this is what would happen if the mutation took full effect, with the Hordika growing in size as they became more beastal and unhinged. The added muscle mass could also explain how Vakama could so easily wipe the floor with Matau during their final confrontation. Another headcanon. I think the reason the Phantoka have brighter colors than the Mata/Nuva (Lime vs Bright Green, Orange vs Brown) and the Mistaka have darker (Dark Red vs Bright Red, Dark Blue vs Bright Blue) is because of their adaptive armor. I suppose this is slightly contradicted by the comics not bothering to change designs and Takanuva still describing Pohatu as "you're orange!" in the final Legends book, but I still think it'd be cool. Tahu and Gali's sky armor would make them Pink and Light Blue, while Pohatu and Lewa's swamp armor would make them Dark Brown and Dark Green. I think that'd be fun!
The more I think of it, I'm really happy with how the Bionicle fanbase is. If you look at many other fanbases, you'll see they're overrunning with toxic gaslighters. Let's not even get started with fanbases that have those people who "like" kids, or even the ones who use the characters to express their fetishes. The Bionicle fanbase, truly is one of the best fanbases out there.
The Toa Hordika transformation was the best! I really liked the exploration of the ideas of loss of control and inhibition in the Toa Metru. I remember reading those comics when they came out and being disturbed in a way by the change, it was really interesting direction for the story to go. The Inika are still my favorites, (Matoro is and always will be the best Toa, obviously), but if I had to pick between the two it's the Hordika every time.
oooh imagine if a Toa got the Nuva upgrade, was exposed to the lightning from the Red Star, gained adaptive armor and _then_ was mutated into a Hordika... You know what? I'll be right back, I suddenly have a strong urge to go dig into my bucket of Bionicle pieces...
IMO the Golden Armor should have been for Takanuva. It would be thematically appropriate for a Toa of Light to wipe out Makuta's Rahkshi and contribute to Teridax's ultimate demise. He also wouldn't have had to be devolved in order to don the Golden Armor since he wasn't strictly speaking a Nuva transformation. It would also mirror his arc in Karda Nui of having to deal with a dark side, except this time with all 42 Kraata powers. At any rate, even if you kept Tahu as the recipient of the armor, he shouldn't have to be devolved from his Nuva form first. You would think his adaptive armor would, you know, adapt to the golden armor set. I think LEGO just needed a justification to not make yet another version of the Kanohi Hau.
as someone who was a huge Dragon Ball fan during Bionicle's run, i really liked a lot of the transformations. As a kid (even now) i see the original gold masks as some kind of super power up like Super Saiyan, something that unlocked more elemental power and mask power. With the Nuva form transferring that essentially into their base power + much more, much like how Super Saiyan was mastered during the Cell Arc. and for the Nuva symbols, i've always saw it as Artahka made the Toa Mata around the Nuva power level initially but being in the canisters for so long made them much weaker. Explaining how he wasn't surprised to see his creations becoming more powerful, and why the Nuva symbols appeared.
Stick around and your wish may come true! I'm actually planning on doing some VS style comparison later on down the road. Probably going to start with Toa vs Benders from Avatar the Last Airbender, probably in either late summer or early fall
@@arielriquelme913 a) Its legitimately debatable in some cases who would win b) Korra was a badass, a powerhouse, an incredibly interesting character, and by the culmination of her arc a brilliant tactician in battle
So basically, the Toa can transform most commonly through the Energized Protodermist? How have I not realized that before. That's so useful for my fan story.
I think the Bionicle community is getting stronger every year it pass. Lego cannot ignore that Bionicle fans even older ones like me or you still cares and loves Bionicle. In these days im going to make a Bionicle T-Shirt in the shopping center of Lewa Nuva in the front and in the back. I had done a few years ago already a T-Shirt of Tahu Nuva. Enjoy alot this uploading. Great work!
I freaking loved the theme of the Toa Hordika. As you can guess with my pic. And I love how the Inika's masks were organic and alive. Makes me wonder what would happen if an organic kanohi become mutated with Hordika Venom. Would the mask powers still be accessible due to their organic nature? Cause imagine a Hordika with a active Calix, that'll be OP.
Ooo that’s a fascinating idea! Maybe if they were organic, they would be able to access some of it, compensating for the lack of mental focus. Like, what if they couldn’t consciously access the whole mask power, but unconsciously the mask could be on at a low level
A thought regarding the Nuva symbols: each symbol was kept in the respective Toa Nuva's village, specifically the suva, but those villages got destroyed. Ta-Koro and (I think) Onu-Koro got destroyed while the Rahkshi went around causing trouble, and the rest got destroyed when the Mata Nui robot woke up. When Ta-Koro went down in flames, how did Tahu retain his elemental power? How did any of the Toa Nuva retain their powers when the robot's waking up made sure the suvas got destroyed beyond reparation? I'm guessing the Matoran or Turaga retrieved the symbols from the suvas ahead of time.
Well with the destruction of the villages, I think its that Tahu's was recovered from the lava and Onua's was dug from the rubble. Some early promotional material about the symbols actually states that they were drawn from the elements, like Tahu's was stated to be forged in the heart of the volcano, so it might've been able to survive the lava. And as far as when the robot woke up, I'm pretty certain that the Matoran brought the symbols with them to Metru Nui after they returned home, and built new Suva's for the Toa in the city
@@heroranuva8295 Did the Toa Nuva eventually lost their dependancy on the symbol? Where the symbols teleported with them to Karda Nui? And why didn't Makuta stole/destroy them, prior to revealing himself as the new Great Spirit, like sending teleporting Rahkshi to Metru Nui Suva? Or more generally speaking why didn't he order the destruction of all Suva? Did they serve any vital functions?
What about Rodaka's Rhotuka Victims like the Toa Hagah and Toa Nidhiki? Was Nidhiki actually more powerful afterwards? Could Roodaka therefore be considered a better Protodermis alternative? - like could she have recreated Tahu Nuva or turned Kraata into Rahkshi armor?
Well, I guess I didn't include those because after they were transformed they were no longer really Toa. I'm actually not sure what the limits of Roodaka's powers are, and if she even has control over how they are transformed. Personally I doubt she'd be as powerful as Energized Protodermis, just because I think its fitting if that's the most powerful given how cosmic it is, but she's clearly very powerful
@@heroranuva8295 Thanks for the reply. For Roodaka I assume it's atleast safe to say that: - she can choose the appearance of her victims ( as seen with the uniform Rahaga), - block elemental and Kanohi power but also restore them, atleast I think she didn't just bestow elemental power onto the Rahaga from nothing or else she could have broken Makuta Protodermis seal herself. -The individuals Rothuka power remain unaltered (perhaps diminished) as they are a result of a sapient beings psyche, am I correct with this statement? Is there a reason, as for why Nidhiki and the Rahaga no longer wore Kanohi, as they did retain their mental discipline?
honestly i feel there isnt anything wrong with the fact tahu hat to be devolved with the golden armor. but i feel the adaptive armor could have possobly shifted to get the golden armor
Hmm, well I guess I didn't group that one in there because it was such a unique combo of several mutations rather than a distinct new type of Toa. Cause like, he was half drained by a Shadow Leech, exposed to a Makuta virus that gave him flight, and then grew an extra foot of height because Karda Nui has that effect on Av-Matoran. At that point he was kind of his own thing
I wouldn't exactly call mata a "Regular form". It is not that much stronger than Metru or average toa version, and it's unclear whenever it's due to inherent abilities of Mata team, or their trening, But Mata are one of a kind and can't really be considered Average. Just one small nitpick. Also, i wonder if other toa teams are capable of Nuva transformation. It would be cool to see other teams become Nuva
I'm kinda curious as to just WHY Tahu absolutely HAD to he devolved for thr Golden Armor. Like why couldn't his Mistika form have just reverted back to Nuva (as should have happened as his Mistika form was due to the Adaptive Armor while in the Swamp of Secrets) in order to use it?
Well, the true, out of universe reason is that they wanted to make a Tahu Mata Bionicle Stars set. The Stars were meant to be a homage to all of Bionicle's era's, and Tahu Mata was perhaps the most iconic set of all time, so they had to include that version. In story, I guess what we could say is that the Golden Armor was made specifically with that form in mind, and they didn't anticipate him becoming a Nuva. Its a rushed and clunky explanation, though yeah. But I don't blame them. The series was cancelled very abruptly, and the story team had to beg and scramble to at least get that last wave and last story arc, so while it wasn't the neatest ending, they did the absolute best that could be done with the time and resources they had at their disposal
Well, this video is mainly on "alternate forms" Toa have been shown to have. Yes it was a transformation, but they were transformed into what I would call standard Toa, since they don't have any different or unique abilities compared to other regular Toa like the Mata or the Mangai. I have another video where I specifically describe the powers and abilities of standard Toa, and they would fit into that
Dosnt realy need much of a plot reason fore Tahu too get ride of the Armor. He simply dosnt wanna HAVE acess too all these Rakshi powers and he locked the armor away only too be yoused fore extreme emergencys
Yeah, from a pure story perspective its not great, but since the Bionicle Stars line was meant to be a homage send off to some of the most iconic sets, thte obviously wanted to go with Tahu Mata since he is pretty much the most iconic Bionicle set of all time. They had a lot to juggle with that send off in a very short time, so I don't blame them too much for a few weird choices
So transformations, huh? Let's just say, there is less of them than I previusly thought! I am not sure if that is a bad thing or the opossite... But adaptive armour seems kind of weird to me. Like, should not toa of each element must be specialised to the enviroments they live in with the help of their masks already?... Oh crap, they are not. Well, then there is nothing disbalancing or anything like that, good! Still seems a bit off... but it is just personal preferences, nothing crazy, ha-ha!
What do you mean? I mean, yeah the substances they control are very similar, but that's the least important part. The main distinctions between stone and earth are the natural environments (cliffs and deserts vs caves and tunnels), the cultures of their villages, and most of all the differences in their characters and personalities! They each add something unique to the team dynamic and to the story beyond the specifics of what element they control
They were actually around the level of all other normal Toa, it's that they were among the most exceptionally skilled due to being trained by Hydraxon from the Order of Mata Nui.
ngl, the adaptative armor was the perfect excuse as to why the characters look different from year to year, without making them being transformed, mutated or powered up by some 3rd party every single time.
Yeah, if we got a few more years, having different modes of adaptive armor for each new setting would've been really cool!
If a makata has the armor well that will be a game changer
@@jennieesaltzgiver2925makuta can already shapeshift
Had they continued the gimmick, they could've had another run of collectible mask or even armor. I'd imagine it'd be like; Desert Miru, underwater miru, *insert terrain/condition* Hau etc. I thinky they thinkered with this idea back then, and it's apparent with Stars "collectible" armor.
One additional thing to mention is the Dark Hunter "Savage", who is also a Tia Hordika, but he never was healed and the power of the venom overtook him completely.
True yeah! He's what the end result of a Hordika transformation would look like
While I love the Toa Mahri overall, I did find the Toa Hordika (just like the Toa Metru) explored their characters the most, because those story arcs had the most breathing room, where events took places over weeks or months, as opposed to several days in the Ignition arc. I do miss the slower pacing of those Metru years...
Mmm, yeah, honestly the character aspect is the best part of the Hordika. It really pushed them to their limits and the subtle differences in how each of them responded to it are pretty revealing. And yeah the shift in pacing from the Metru arc to the Ignition arc is pretty wild, Ignition moves at a lightning fast pace. I think its partially due to there being more named characters, as those were the first years the canister set villains were fully sentient characters
@@heroranuva8295 Could be! Thank you for the fun discussion!
I think it would be interesting to discuss story/visual inaccuracies in the physical sets. Things like how in the comics Gali’s mask isn’t transparent except for the visor, how Nuparu Mahri’s set doesn’t have his sword, how the Rahkshi have lower arms and proper hands in most of their non-set appearances, all the times characters have been given proper hands, and whatever the heck is going on with Shadow Titan Takanuva
Also the Vahki head same face syndrome on the titan sets
That's right, he forgot to mention Takanuva's transformation
Takanuva was enhanced by the energies of Karda Nui, that's why he got so big.
The Toa Inika will always stay my favourite because of the Voya Nui arc.
Let me explain :
-Toa Nuva basically come in "almost-hell-island"
-Toa Nuva got 100% kicked by Piraka
-Our six new Toa arrive on Voya Nui
-Sweet taste of justice when the Inika get the upper hand on Piraka (more or less I admit they didn't simply go and crush them)
Weird coincidence, but I was just thinking about the Nuva Symbols (how much of an inconvenience they were for our heroes, how weird it is that they only existed for this one Toa team and no others, and how they only showed up as a plot convenience for this one arc and then never came up again) for the millionth time in my life the same day you came out with this video.
But hey, great video, HeroraNuva. Even when it’s stuff that I already know, I do still like videos that list and explain stuff like this from any franchise I’m into.
By the way, here’s a theory I’ve been pondering on for a while, and you’re more than welcome to use it in a future video. If you look at all the Toa sets that have ever come out, you’ll notice that the Toa Metru, Lhikan, and the Toa Hagah all have the same armor design. Given their positions in the timeline, and that they come from various places in the Matoran universe, my theory is that this is the default build of any Toa; the Toa at its most basic. Just hear me out before you criticize.
With the exceptions of the Hagah’s extra armor and their new weapons, as far as we know, none of the nine aforementioned heroes ever went through any drastic physical changes in their lives as Toa (until they became Hordika, Turaga, or Rahaga, that is). When the Matoran of Metru Nui became Toa Metru, this was what they looked like. So let’s assume that the same applied to the Toa Hagah, Lhikan, and probably the rest of the Toa Mangai. (By extension to this theory, I guess the Metru Nui Matoran design would be the default Matoran design of their universe.)
Now let’s look at the other Toa we know of, who have different armor designs.
The Toa Mata? Well, not only were they never Matoran, but they were some of the earliest Toa, and ones built for a very specific purpose. That their armor design is different from the default - which may not even have existed when they were first made - doesn’t surprise me. And as you just pointed out, their Nuva forms are just improvements on their Mata ones. (I know it’s harder to apply the theory to their Phantoka and Mistika forms, but I say that’s just Lego lazily repeating the Inika build because it was successful.)
The Toa Inika? Well, before they were Toa, they were Matoran of Metru Nui whose bodies had been diminished by the Matoran spheres, and then upgraded in the Rebuilding. Not exactly the “normal” build to begin with. And when they did become Toa, it wasn’t from a Toa Stone like most other Toa, but from the power of the Red Star. Given the lightning powers, laser weapons, and organic masks, an unusual armor design can kind of be expected. And given that all this, plus the Mask of Life in the waters of the Pit, lead up to their Mahri forms, no shock that their armor designs were off the beaten path as well.
Helryx? Not only was she never a Matoran, but she’s the first Toa. You can make the argument that she’s kind of a prototype, so of course she wouldn’t look the same at all.
Krakua? Okay, this one having a different armor design is a little harder to explain, but here are my best theories. One, we’ve never seen a De-Matoran, so maybe their armor is vastly different from any other Matoran’s we’ve ever seen - resulting in Toa armor that looks vastly different from any other Toa’s we’ve ever seen. Two, we don’t know for sure that he got his powers the “natural” way, via a Toa Stone. BioSector just says that he got the “assistance” of the Order of Mata Nui. That doesn’t necessarily mean that there was no Toa Stone involved, but it also doesn’t necessarily mean there was. And if the source of the Toa Inika’s transformation is any indication, becoming a Toa through any means other than a Toa Stone could result in a wildly different look. And third, Krakua is a bit of an odd Toa who works for the Order. It could just be that whoever handles the forges on Daxia did something special for his armor.
Nikila? Call me crazy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she actually does just have the basic Metru build. It’s just hidden under a bunch of extra plates and decor like the Toa Hagah. But yeah, I admit this one’s a bit of a stretch.
And finally, Lesovikk. The only version of him we’ve ever seen is his form after being mutated by the Pit waters (though he does look a lot like the Toa Mahri, which is odd). Maybe it’s just because I built a MOC of him pre-mutation using the Metru build, but I honestly believe he did have the Metru/Lhikan/Hagah design armor when he first started out.
If there are any other Toa we’ve ever seen that I didn’t mention, let me know. Maybe they’ll fit into my theory, or maybe they’ll burn it down.
In closing, I’d like to go on record and say that I didn’t just concoct this theory because I love the Toa Metru build so much (though I do - I’m actually working on a short story starring an original Toa I built (who has the Metru build), and am hoping to get it canonized), or because I’m a control freak who’s trying to make everything the way I want it to be. I’m just trying to connect some dots and make some order out of the chaos in the lore. If I ever meet Greg Farshtey, I hope to run this theory by him and get it confirmed.
Anyway, this has been my theory on Toa armor designs. Like it, hate it, do what you want with it. Ciao.
PS: Hey, HeroraNuva. I’m surprised you didn’t mention any of the “powered-up” Toa in the Dark Hunters - especially Savage when you went into the Hordika analysis.
6:30 "Artakha did it" to explain anything remotely confusing about a story's plot has meme potential
Wild headcanon here. Savage is meant to be a Toa Hordika as well, but if you look at his build/setform he's way more muscular and nearly twice as tall as the other six Hordika. I believe that this is what would happen if the mutation took full effect, with the Hordika growing in size as they became more beastal and unhinged. The added muscle mass could also explain how Vakama could so easily wipe the floor with Matau during their final confrontation.
Another headcanon. I think the reason the Phantoka have brighter colors than the Mata/Nuva (Lime vs Bright Green, Orange vs Brown) and the Mistaka have darker (Dark Red vs Bright Red, Dark Blue vs Bright Blue) is because of their adaptive armor. I suppose this is slightly contradicted by the comics not bothering to change designs and Takanuva still describing Pohatu as "you're orange!" in the final Legends book, but I still think it'd be cool. Tahu and Gali's sky armor would make them Pink and Light Blue, while Pohatu and Lewa's swamp armor would make them Dark Brown and Dark Green. I think that'd be fun!
Pink Tahu is not a thought I ever thought I would have, but now I have. I'm not sure what to think of it.
The more I think of it, I'm really happy with how the Bionicle fanbase is. If you look at many other fanbases, you'll see they're overrunning with toxic gaslighters. Let's not even get started with fanbases that have those people who "like" kids, or even the ones who use the characters to express their fetishes.
The Bionicle fanbase, truly is one of the best fanbases out there.
So true. It's been 22 years, and we've still remained safe from Gali R34. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@MeanBeanComedy Thank God.
@@MeanBeanComedyOh that existed for a long time now.
My headcanon is that the golden armor absorbing the rakshi powers, also absorbed a bit of Terri. Not all of him, but enough to be a backdoor return.
The Toa Hordika transformation was the best! I really liked the exploration of the ideas of loss of control and inhibition in the Toa Metru. I remember reading those comics when they came out and being disturbed in a way by the change, it was really interesting direction for the story to go.
The Inika are still my favorites, (Matoro is and always will be the best Toa, obviously), but if I had to pick between the two it's the Hordika every time.
Oh yeah, the character exploration of that arc was really great!
I like to think that the Metru form is the "default" form that the Matoran take when they are powered up.
Can you review the theme of “For Science!” that’s rampant throughout the story?
oooh imagine if a Toa got the Nuva upgrade, was exposed to the lightning from the Red Star, gained adaptive armor and _then_ was mutated into a Hordika...
You know what? I'll be right back, I suddenly have a strong urge to go dig into my bucket of Bionicle pieces...
Super Lightning Adaptable Beast Toa!
@@heroranuva8295 ...and Knuckles!
Whoa now that makes op look weak
Personally, I feel like something like Gravity or Plasma would be a more dangerous combination instead of Lightning
@@MatiNuva1724 Perhaps but that's not the power the Red Star granted to the Inika.
IMO the Golden Armor should have been for Takanuva. It would be thematically appropriate for a Toa of Light to wipe out Makuta's Rahkshi and contribute to Teridax's ultimate demise. He also wouldn't have had to be devolved in order to don the Golden Armor since he wasn't strictly speaking a Nuva transformation. It would also mirror his arc in Karda Nui of having to deal with a dark side, except this time with all 42 Kraata powers.
At any rate, even if you kept Tahu as the recipient of the armor, he shouldn't have to be devolved from his Nuva form first. You would think his adaptive armor would, you know, adapt to the golden armor set. I think LEGO just needed a justification to not make yet another version of the Kanohi Hau.
as someone who was a huge Dragon Ball fan during Bionicle's run, i really liked a lot of the transformations. As a kid (even now) i see the original gold masks as some kind of super power up like Super Saiyan, something that unlocked more elemental power and mask power. With the Nuva form transferring that essentially into their base power + much more, much like how Super Saiyan was mastered during the Cell Arc.
and for the Nuva symbols, i've always saw it as Artahka made the Toa Mata around the Nuva power level initially but being in the canisters for so long made them much weaker. Explaining how he wasn't surprised to see his creations becoming more powerful, and why the Nuva symbols appeared.
I would love, if someone does a video on the toa vs characters from other fictional universes.
Stick around and your wish may come true! I'm actually planning on doing some VS style comparison later on down the road. Probably going to start with Toa vs Benders from Avatar the Last Airbender, probably in either late summer or early fall
@@heroranuva8295 Tahu claps em all, especially that nitwit, Korra.
@@arielriquelme913 a) Its legitimately debatable in some cases who would win
b) Korra was a badass, a powerhouse, an incredibly interesting character, and by the culmination of her arc a brilliant tactician in battle
@@heroranuva8295 If you do put her against a character from Bionicle, please show us who would win against her.
So basically, the Toa can transform most commonly through the Energized Protodermist?
How have I not realized that before. That's so useful for my fan story.
I think the Bionicle community is getting stronger every year it pass.
Lego cannot ignore that Bionicle fans even older ones like me or you still cares and loves Bionicle.
In these days im going to make a Bionicle T-Shirt in the shopping center of Lewa Nuva in the front and in the back. I had done a few years ago already a T-Shirt of Tahu Nuva.
Enjoy alot this uploading. Great work!
My favorite piece of Bionicle trivia is that Toa Nuva could theoretically share Kaukau Nuva's power to suffocate enemies
I freaking loved the theme of the Toa Hordika. As you can guess with my pic. And I love how the Inika's masks were organic and alive. Makes me wonder what would happen if an organic kanohi become mutated with Hordika Venom. Would the mask powers still be accessible due to their organic nature? Cause imagine a Hordika with a active Calix, that'll be OP.
Ooo that’s a fascinating idea! Maybe if they were organic, they would be able to access some of it, compensating for the lack of mental focus. Like, what if they couldn’t consciously access the whole mask power, but unconsciously the mask could be on at a low level
Very interesting video. Tahu become more powerful than I thought.
Oh yeah Tahu got REAL op
A thought regarding the Nuva symbols: each symbol was kept in the respective Toa Nuva's village, specifically the suva, but those villages got destroyed. Ta-Koro and (I think) Onu-Koro got destroyed while the Rahkshi went around causing trouble, and the rest got destroyed when the Mata Nui robot woke up. When Ta-Koro went down in flames, how did Tahu retain his elemental power? How did any of the Toa Nuva retain their powers when the robot's waking up made sure the suvas got destroyed beyond reparation? I'm guessing the Matoran or Turaga retrieved the symbols from the suvas ahead of time.
Well with the destruction of the villages, I think its that Tahu's was recovered from the lava and Onua's was dug from the rubble. Some early promotional material about the symbols actually states that they were drawn from the elements, like Tahu's was stated to be forged in the heart of the volcano, so it might've been able to survive the lava. And as far as when the robot woke up, I'm pretty certain that the Matoran brought the symbols with them to Metru Nui after they returned home, and built new Suva's for the Toa in the city
@@heroranuva8295 Did the Toa Nuva eventually lost their dependancy on the symbol? Where the symbols teleported with them to Karda Nui? And why didn't Makuta stole/destroy them, prior to revealing himself as the new Great Spirit, like sending teleporting Rahkshi to Metru Nui Suva? Or more generally speaking why didn't he order the destruction of all Suva? Did they serve any vital functions?
What about Rodaka's Rhotuka Victims like the Toa Hagah and Toa Nidhiki?
Was Nidhiki actually more powerful afterwards? Could Roodaka therefore be considered a better Protodermis alternative? - like could she have recreated Tahu Nuva or turned Kraata into Rahkshi armor?
Well, I guess I didn't include those because after they were transformed they were no longer really Toa. I'm actually not sure what the limits of Roodaka's powers are, and if she even has control over how they are transformed. Personally I doubt she'd be as powerful as Energized Protodermis, just because I think its fitting if that's the most powerful given how cosmic it is, but she's clearly very powerful
@@heroranuva8295 Thanks for the reply. For Roodaka I assume it's atleast safe to say that:
- she can choose the appearance of her victims ( as seen with the uniform Rahaga),
- block elemental and Kanohi power but also restore them, atleast I think she didn't just bestow elemental power onto the Rahaga from nothing or else she could have broken Makuta Protodermis seal herself.
-The individuals Rothuka power remain unaltered (perhaps diminished) as they are a result of a sapient beings psyche, am I correct with this statement?
Is there a reason, as for why Nidhiki and the Rahaga no longer wore Kanohi, as they did retain their mental discipline?
And Roodaka is completely insane
background music would really improve your content. "old fusa path" is a nice one.
Yeah, probably. The next big step in my improvement on youtube is definitley focusing on audio/speaking quality, editing, and things of that nature.
honestly i feel there isnt anything wrong with the fact tahu hat to be devolved with the golden armor. but i feel the adaptive armor could have possobly shifted to get the golden armor
Toa Inika without their masks: "Be not afraid."
My favourite is Inika, because 2006 was the best year for Bionicle after Mahri.
2006 was epic
You also forgot Toa Nidhiki's Mutation
What about Takanuva’s mutation in 2008?
Hmm, well I guess I didn't group that one in there because it was such a unique combo of several mutations rather than a distinct new type of Toa. Cause like, he was half drained by a Shadow Leech, exposed to a Makuta virus that gave him flight, and then grew an extra foot of height because Karda Nui has that effect on Av-Matoran. At that point he was kind of his own thing
I did not know about the whole nest-making urge of the Toa Hordika. That felt kinda fanficcy lol
I never knew I needes this until I saw it
Inika are my favorite
The Inika are great!
@@heroranuva8295 Move along move along like you know you should!!!
I thought the Toa Mata were canonically the strongest Toa team due to them being literal incarnations of their elements created by Artahka
No, they only became stronger once they transformed into Toa Nuva, as Toa Mata they weren’t any more powerful than average.
I thought I read somewhere that the nuva symbols were created by artahka.
I wouldn't exactly call mata a "Regular form". It is not that much stronger than Metru or average toa version, and it's unclear whenever it's due to inherent abilities of Mata team, or their trening, But Mata are one of a kind and can't really be considered Average.
Just one small nitpick.
Also, i wonder if other toa teams are capable of Nuva transformation. It would be cool to see other teams become Nuva
I'm kinda curious as to just WHY Tahu absolutely HAD to he devolved for thr Golden Armor. Like why couldn't his Mistika form have just reverted back to Nuva (as should have happened as his Mistika form was due to the Adaptive Armor while in the Swamp of Secrets) in order to use it?
Well, the true, out of universe reason is that they wanted to make a Tahu Mata Bionicle Stars set. The Stars were meant to be a homage to all of Bionicle's era's, and Tahu Mata was perhaps the most iconic set of all time, so they had to include that version. In story, I guess what we could say is that the Golden Armor was made specifically with that form in mind, and they didn't anticipate him becoming a Nuva. Its a rushed and clunky explanation, though yeah. But I don't blame them. The series was cancelled very abruptly, and the story team had to beg and scramble to at least get that last wave and last story arc, so while it wasn't the neatest ending, they did the absolute best that could be done with the time and resources they had at their disposal
And I thought Mario had crazy powerups, dauymn
what ever happened to the toa hagah that where transformed into the rahaga?
A theory I'd like to see is what is the basic toa body the inika build or the metru build
But hear me out.... do any of them come close to Orange Piccolo?? Huh nerd HUH!?!?!?
Uhhh, well Pohatu Phantoka is CLEARLY orange soooo
@@heroranuva8295 Fuck you're right! Solos Orange Piccolo
With the Toa Hordika, doesn’t the Toa metru also count as a transformation? I mean, they do turn into toa From being a matoran…
Well, this video is mainly on "alternate forms" Toa have been shown to have. Yes it was a transformation, but they were transformed into what I would call standard Toa, since they don't have any different or unique abilities compared to other regular Toa like the Mata or the Mangai. I have another video where I specifically describe the powers and abilities of standard Toa, and they would fit into that
Dosnt realy need much of a plot reason fore Tahu too get ride of the Armor. He simply dosnt wanna HAVE acess too all these Rakshi powers and he locked the armor away only too be yoused fore extreme emergencys
True! And many people see the real world/universe like that. As a large machine or organism that we are just a part of that we don't fully understand
I still think the evolving Tahu is really stupid. "Fellow Matoran I present to you The Toa Nuva and Toa Mata Tahu...sigh"(facepalm)
Yeah, from a pure story perspective its not great, but since the Bionicle Stars line was meant to be a homage send off to some of the most iconic sets, thte obviously wanted to go with Tahu Mata since he is pretty much the most iconic Bionicle set of all time. They had a lot to juggle with that send off in a very short time, so I don't blame them too much for a few weird choices
So transformations, huh? Let's just say, there is less of them than I previusly thought! I am not sure if that is a bad thing or the opossite... But adaptive armour seems kind of weird to me. Like, should not toa of each element must be specialised to the enviroments they live in with the help of their masks already?...
Oh crap, they are not. Well, then there is nothing disbalancing or anything like that, good! Still seems a bit off... but it is just personal preferences, nothing crazy, ha-ha!
Wouldnt it be super Matoran power
The brown toah is kinda pointless next to the black one...
What do you mean? I mean, yeah the substances they control are very similar, but that's the least important part. The main distinctions between stone and earth are the natural environments (cliffs and deserts vs caves and tunnels), the cultures of their villages, and most of all the differences in their characters and personalities! They each add something unique to the team dynamic and to the story beyond the specifics of what element they control
Kaita?
I definitely am going to cover the Toa Kaita more, probably not too long actually. There’s a lot of cool stuff about them
I thought the Toa Mata were canonically the strongest Toa team due to them being literal incarnations of their elements created by Artahka
They were actually around the level of all other normal Toa, it's that they were among the most exceptionally skilled due to being trained by Hydraxon from the Order of Mata Nui.