top.gg isn’t the discord police. They don’t need to boot mee6 off the platform because that’s Discord’s job. Top.gg is just getting the bag and that’s pretty gamer. I just found Mee6’s ad spending interesting. And raised the point that it’s more likely that top.gg would not comment on Mee6’s actions to maintain that business relationship. Oh yeah I should make it clear. I don’t hate music bots. I just hate every other music bot being punished and Mee6 getting away with it. Moreover, music bots break UA-cam's API TOS, not Discord's directly. If I recall correctly there is a term in Discord's Dev TOS that says you shouldn't be breaking the TOS of other platforms. From what I speculate, it seems like it's up to youtube to tell Discord that a bot is breaking the tos.
@@YT7mc ....What? No. it doesn't. Well, the only thing you'd pay for to make a Discord bot is a server to keep the bot running 24/7, But other than that. hosting a bot isn't paid and a server for it is optional
wrong. Discord TOS requires bots to follow the TOS of other websites. Since mee6 is very much against the youtube TOS discord could (and should!) force them to remove it. Actually they should ban it already because of a large number of offenses but for this one forced removal is the ideal option.
Do not show this to MEE6 but... Fun fact: I enabled XP level roles on my server on MEE6's server BEFORE they made this service paid. And now since it's already enabled, It's kind of bugged. My server STILL has level roles TO THIS DAY without me paying a single dollar.
That's with any bot though, I had the free premium trial for 24 hours for ticket bot and still have all my custom forms up, only thing that doesn't work is the form that pops up with the button, it doesn't actually send the details anymore but it still pops up.
@@niczvr Considering how most of the company works, they're VERY LIKELY to keep user asset that violates their own rules the company sets just because it makes a lot of money for them. If in Roblox, Pet Simulator X violated Roblox ToS about 4 times and yet no serious action was taken, just beacuse it makes a lot of money for Roblox, I can tell the same thing may happen to Discord except it's Mee6, because Mee6 might be making lots of money for Discord either.
As long as it is making them bills they‘ll be the favorite child. And if UA-cam sends a cease and desist they‘ll just re-add the music feature in a month
I just want to drop my experience with mee6: i was a very early supporter, back when you did a single donation and got access to music and the "cool features," when they switched to a subscription model they claimed they would uphold their promise to original donators. for me at least? they have not. i tried for months, they refused to uphold it with so many different issues. I gave up and haven't used it for years now. but i thought it would be interesting to mention to folk
Calling out discord for not banning MEE6 for having a music bot makes ZERO sense since Discord was always on the side of the music bots, but it was UA-cam that took legal action to force the popular music bots to shutdown. Do I think it's fair that MEE6 can get away with it when others haven't? No of course not. But don't blame Discord when it's not their fault.
It’s because MEE6 uses lavaplayer which doesn’t require API keys. All the other bots you mentioned used API keys. You might be wondering why they didn’t just switch? It’s because they needed to use many proxies or else it they would get rate limited considering the amount of users.
@@hi-kt3qr lavaplayer is just a library handling decoding/encoding process. You still need to fetch the actual content from youtube to pass it to it, so you can still get rate limited
@@Nixahma I'm confused what you're talking about. Discord has basically never banned any bots other than blatant abuse/TOS violations or when they were forced to through legal action (like these music bots, most of which *still* exist btw)
Fredboat is the first bot I ever learnt to use and as such has been the bot I'd use for when I'm in vc with people and wanna listen to music. I noticed they too can no longer run youtube videos due to conflicts so i decided to make some backup playlists on Soundcloud for my regulars. I tend to listen to my music offline since I actually buy it but it felt odd to lose a big chunk of what my tiny server liked to do together. That said I am now getting the hang of that youtube watch party feature in servers now.
Yeah, the YT watch party is pretty cool, but it's pretty limited, some videos can't be played, if you paste a link to a playlist it just lists all the songs and you have to add them one by one. It also has ads that work in a kinda weird way, everyone gets i different ad and has to click skip ad separately, and the video doesn't pase while ads are played, so you miss a bit of it
"If you bought a lifetime subscription, use every feature in the bot" same way of saying, if you bought a 100 bullets to kill 1 person, use every single other to kill more
It would have been so much easier for you to use the Discord API to return all the messages from a specific channel and use that information to create a spreadsheet.
@@Axodus This has literally nothing to do with automating your account. Find the rule that says you can't use the Discord API to get messages from a channel. If Discord took the time to literally document how to do exactly what I was suggesting, it isn't against the rules.
what's funny about mee6 allowing links is that the two bots i use for music dont like to take links, they require putting the yt title in, so something tells me mee6 is breaking rules more than normal.
My group always used rhythm to play meme audio relevant to whatever we were doing. Sometimes it was music, a la Sea of Thieves and PotC music, but mostly it was meme audio. I really wish there was even a half-decent alternative
I feel the issue is that it's just too late to kick it off the platform, they're in way too many servers and afaik there's no easy way to transfer the settings to other servers, so if you kick them off the platform it essentially breaks a large volume of servers (specially ones that rely on level roles for channels) and leaves them without the automod it has. Unless discord somehow finds a way to transfer mee6's settings somewhere else, it'll probably stay as much as it really shouldn't have
youtube will eventually do smt about mee6, so mee6 will, at the very least, lose some of its functionality, altho i could see mee6 never being banned, despite their fishy practices, not because it will harm a lot of servers (u could spend a single day setting up new bots, albeit putting in a bunch of effort and maybe a bit of teamwork), but rather cuz discord doesnt give a crap
I've got a question that has practically nothing to do with Mee6: As I was watching this video, I was wondering how Soda Bot was doing ? This alternative to Mee6 should be great, but when I checked their site, it was down (is still is as I'm writing this)
(7:00) If they didn't win a bid and didn't pay, they still have the money saved to bid again, and should therefore not count. So if they did win every time, they wouldn't have bit this much, because it wouldn't work for their budget.
You can't blame Discord for UA-cam only not allowing Rythm to do it, that's like being mad that you had a DMCA for music but someone else didn't and blaming UA-cam for not doing it themselves.
some time ago I reported mee6 in app directory for that gambling feature since it’s against the tos two days later discord sent an email that they didn’t break the tos 💀💀💀💀
Its funny how these people commented about the quality of this video directly when it came out, seems to ruin the reason to comment if you originally just want attention and not want to discuss the topics of the video
Mee6 you did it again and you thought I wouldn't notice. Turns out the community has been keeping an eye on Mee6 and recording their stupid mistakes. Mee6 keeps messing up and breaking Discord's rules. And I got breaking news, hardcore calculations that show how much Mee6 spends on ads, and finally some insider knowledge on the corruption of Mee6. This video is a wild ride and if you enjoyed it, please let a brother know 💖
Quick note, as a friend who has a lifetime subscription has pointed out, it's not actually "lifetime", apparently it runs out after about 10 or so years. That's still long as heck but lol, "lifetime".
To be fair, it doesn't necesarily mean that they play youtube videos if they support youtube links and so on. Of course, here it does as that video is only on youtube, but anyway: I had a bot that supported spotify links, but played it from youtube instead. It still did show spotify metadata and if you clicked on it, spotify would open, but it didn't use spotify in a way that breaks spotify's TOS. Yet the bot got banned by discord for breaking TOS of their partners (hit 1.2k servers, way less than other music bots that are fine and thriving ...), and discord refuses to communicate exact reason or reverse the ban. The bot did nothing else that could be breaking TOS of any of their partners.
MEE6 do be scamming teenagers into buying $80 worth of money. You might as well spend it on 3 other better bots. Or buy 5 pizzas. Never buy premium for MEE6.
That's why we always see the same bots in sponsored, because their bets are bigger than other ones and always appear. Poor small bots that can't bet a lot
If I owned Discord I'd actually change the TOS so if the bots make money on premium memberships then the money has to get through Discord. I'd also reserve the right to take the money stored temporarily (withdraws would be monthly let's say) when banning a bot, and then just before withdrawal ban the bots that break TOS. Though from an ordinary user's perspective, if Discord implemented this, it would kinda suck, too...
when i saw at some server that mee6 plays music i was like "oh i dont need special bots for it, mee6 is popular bot so-" and it ended that i needed to add 6 songs to queue t play one bc this shit plays randomly
top.gg isn’t the discord police. They don’t need to boot mee6 off the platform because that’s Discord’s job. Top.gg is just getting the bag and that’s pretty gamer. I just found Mee6’s ad spending interesting. And raised the point that it’s more likely that top.gg would not comment on Mee6’s actions to maintain that business relationship.
Oh yeah I should make it clear. I don’t hate music bots. I just hate every other music bot being punished and Mee6 getting away with it.
Moreover, music bots break UA-cam's API TOS, not Discord's directly. If I recall correctly there is a term in Discord's Dev TOS that says you shouldn't be breaking the TOS of other platforms. From what I speculate, it seems like it's up to youtube to tell Discord that a bot is breaking the tos.
Alright.
I approve it
that makes sense tbh
I still remember me and my friends giving our last goodbyes to groovy.
yep
So let me get this straight, if rythm didn’t charge for premium features we would still have it and not have to use shiddy other bots.
They would have no way of getting money then. It costs money to host a bot.
I think the bigger problem was youtube not receiving money from ads
@@YT7mc ....What? No. it doesn't.
Well, the only thing you'd pay for to make a Discord bot is a server to keep the bot running 24/7, But other than that. hosting a bot isn't paid and a server for it is optional
@@justahobo brands when they can solve something withiut ruining it:
@@arkahv I think they meant the website for the bot and other factors that they need funding for
The thing is, until YT actually *sends* MEE6 a cease and descist, it's fine for them to do whatever the hell they want.
@Acevant lol
wrong. Discord TOS requires bots to follow the TOS of other websites. Since mee6 is very much against the youtube TOS discord could (and should!) force them to remove it. Actually they should ban it already because of a large number of offenses but for this one forced removal is the ideal option.
@Acevant time to spam them about meee6 so we can get that cease and descist
not for all the other music bots though, they still get punished anyways
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mee6 totally ruined mr. meeseeks
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Both UA-cam and Adult swim should just sue Mee6 at this point
Can't sue a bot lmao
@@skidz- yes you can the music bot was sued by UA-cam
Its me66 not meeseeks so adult swim will nothing do
@@BlueStarBRS obviously
Adult swim?
Do not show this to MEE6 but...
Fun fact: I enabled XP level roles on my server on MEE6's server BEFORE they made this service paid. And now since it's already enabled, It's kind of bugged. My server STILL has level roles TO THIS DAY without me paying a single dollar.
MEE6 purposely did that to keep their old customers at the time.
That's with any bot though, I had the free premium trial for 24 hours for ticket bot and still have all my custom forms up, only thing that doesn't work is the form that pops up with the button, it doesn't actually send the details anymore but it still pops up.
@@Lugtastic if the form doesn't work, isn't it pointless?
being an OG of mee6 removes the corruption. cool.
NTTS be like: You can run but you can't hide.
lmao
literally the philosophy of this vid 💀
hi soul
I really won't be surprised if discord's favoritism to MEE6 will play it's role in the future, considering the shady actions MEE6 done.
@@niczvr Considering how most of the company works, they're VERY LIKELY to keep user asset that violates their own rules the company sets just because it makes a lot of money for them.
If in Roblox, Pet Simulator X violated Roblox ToS about 4 times and yet no serious action was taken, just beacuse it makes a lot of money for Roblox, I can tell the same thing may happen to Discord except it's Mee6, because Mee6 might be making lots of money for Discord either.
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You know it’s bad when a dev of ACG is commenting
@@Hexixels You know they are disgusting because they are a furry
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No text to speech? Nah, you're a discord news reporter to me.
Am glad I found your channel when I did 💕
I approve it
Cant wait for you to cover the eventual mee6 shutdown aswell.
As long as it is making them bills they‘ll be the favorite child.
And if UA-cam sends a cease and desist they‘ll just re-add the music feature in a month
@@GurkenbauerTim Which is why they need to sue MEE6 into OBLIVION. Sue the creators for everything they've got.
Being completely honest, I’d definitely not turn down $100k for advertisements from *one bot*
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Being completely honest, I’d definitely not turn down $100k for advertisements from one bot
@@EllaMaster why are you copying comment and replying to that same comment
I ditched MEE6 ages ago when I learned of their investment in NFTs
Hearing this… no surprise… glad I dipped out
I ditched MEE6 ages ago when I learned of their investment in NFTs Hearing this... no surprise… glad I dipped out
@@EllaMastergross, don’t copy and paste comments
Thanks for your video, especially for the last part. People needs to know what happened to the previous volunteers team and how that thing was handled
I just want to drop my experience with mee6: i was a very early supporter, back when you did a single donation and got access to music and the "cool features," when they switched to a subscription model they claimed they would uphold their promise to original donators. for me at least? they have not. i tried for months, they refused to uphold it with so many different issues. I gave up and haven't used it for years now. but i thought it would be interesting to mention to folk
Every time you think mee6 has hit rock bottom…. They manage to find a drill to keep going deeper
The fact that this MEE6 series is becoming a saga shows much much MEE6 sucks lol
Thanks to your videos I've removed Mee6 from my personal and community discord servers! Keep spreading good information :)
Keep doing what you do it's amazing
uhhhh the uhhhhhh uhhh uhhhhh whar uhhhh NO.
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Calling out discord for not banning MEE6 for having a music bot makes ZERO sense since Discord was always on the side of the music bots, but it was UA-cam that took legal action to force the popular music bots to shutdown. Do I think it's fair that MEE6 can get away with it when others haven't? No of course not. But don't blame Discord when it's not their fault.
It’s because MEE6 uses lavaplayer which doesn’t require API keys. All the other bots you mentioned used API keys. You might be wondering why they didn’t just switch? It’s because they needed to use many proxies or else it they would get rate limited considering the amount of users.
@@hi-kt3qr lavaplayer is just a library handling decoding/encoding process. You still need to fetch the actual content from youtube to pass it to it, so you can still get rate limited
Cool, it wasn't their fault one out of fifty times, they're still biased as fuck
@@Nixahma yeh, but not this time
@@Nixahma I'm confused what you're talking about. Discord has basically never banned any bots other than blatant abuse/TOS violations or when they were forced to through legal action (like these music bots, most of which *still* exist btw)
Fredboat is the first bot I ever learnt to use and as such has been the bot I'd use for when I'm in vc with people and wanna listen to music. I noticed they too can no longer run youtube videos due to conflicts so i decided to make some backup playlists on Soundcloud for my regulars. I tend to listen to my music offline since I actually buy it but it felt odd to lose a big chunk of what my tiny server liked to do together. That said I am now getting the hang of that youtube watch party feature in servers now.
Yeah, the YT watch party is pretty cool, but it's pretty limited, some videos can't be played, if you paste a link to a playlist it just lists all the songs and you have to add them one by one. It also has ads that work in a kinda weird way, everyone gets i different ad and has to click skip ad separately, and the video doesn't pase while ads are played, so you miss a bit of it
i just use vexera
"If you bought a lifetime subscription, use every feature in the bot"
same way of saying, if you bought a 100 bullets to kill 1 person, use every single other to kill more
Waste not, want not.
Smegma male grindset 101, man.
bro ain't letting mee6 slide
Love the dedication
Hope you get to a mil followers next year!
Another episode of NTTS roasting MEE6
It would have been so much easier for you to use the Discord API to return all the messages from a specific channel and use that information to create a spreadsheet.
Account botting is against the rules?
@@Axodus This has literally nothing to do with automating your account. Find the rule that says you can't use the Discord API to get messages from a channel. If Discord took the time to literally document how to do exactly what I was suggesting, it isn't against the rules.
@Sopitive pretty sure you're required to use a bot account when using the api, I could be wrong, if I am, great.
what's funny about mee6 allowing links is that the two bots i use for music dont like to take links, they require putting the yt title in, so something tells me mee6 is breaking rules more than normal.
NTTS complaining about MEE6 never gets old. ❤️
Bro this guy need to get hired and got raised already.
this series is amazing ngl
Well if Discord isn't gonna do anything about it, UA-cam certainly will, UA-cam LOVES to shut down things!
They'll just readd the music feature in a month anyway.
@@Autokendo17 so sue the bot into oblivion
Hosting my own Red Bot for multiple servers and still love it, despite it being a bit complicated at times. Haven't found a proper replacement for it.
I'm writing my own bots on nodejs, efficient, fast and easy.
Slowly NTTS is becomeing a true discord mod
Dude. You're CRAZY.... i LOVED your content. Subscribed! Keep it up!
My group always used rhythm to play meme audio relevant to whatever we were doing. Sometimes it was music, a la Sea of Thieves and PotC music, but mostly it was meme audio. I really wish there was even a half-decent alternative
Back when I entered discord, MEE6 already felt annoying so I blocked him. To be honest there should be justice for all bots
I feel the issue is that it's just too late to kick it off the platform, they're in way too many servers and afaik there's no easy way to transfer the settings to other servers, so if you kick them off the platform it essentially breaks a large volume of servers (specially ones that rely on level roles for channels) and leaves them without the automod it has. Unless discord somehow finds a way to transfer mee6's settings somewhere else, it'll probably stay as much as it really shouldn't have
discord is already slowly implementing equivalent features at a snail's pace
youtube will eventually do smt about mee6, so mee6 will, at the very least, lose some of its functionality, altho i could see mee6 never being banned, despite their fishy practices, not because it will harm a lot of servers (u could spend a single day setting up new bots, albeit putting in a bunch of effort and maybe a bit of teamwork), but rather cuz discord doesnt give a crap
That's sounds like those servers' issue, Better learn to familiarize themselves with other (better) bots in the off chance
Who else kisses their phone screen back every time he kisses goodbye at the end of the video?
I think it's only you 😐
Only you bro
I've got a question that has practically nothing to do with Mee6: As I was watching this video, I was wondering how Soda Bot was doing ? This alternative to Mee6 should be great, but when I checked their site, it was down (is still is as I'm writing this)
I knew that this was coming, in fact, I made your brain cells work.
(7:00) If they didn't win a bid and didn't pay, they still have the money saved to bid again, and should therefore not count. So if they did win every time, they wouldn't have bit this much, because it wouldn't work for their budget.
I am 99% sure that Mee6 agreed to use Discord's integrated subscription feature once it comes out.
The rivalry against MEE6 is insane and funny
This guy has so much hatred against MEE6. keep it up! love!
As someone who had to deal with mee6 all the time I hate that bot with a passion I'd rather burn in hell than use that bot ever again
nadeko is my favorite alternative, and has my favorite economy out of any bot i've ever used - just putting it out there
this guy needs to become discord mod.
You can't blame Discord for UA-cam only not allowing Rythm to do it, that's like being mad that you had a DMCA for music but someone else didn't and blaming UA-cam for not doing it themselves.
My grandma thanks you for zooming in!!!
the mee6 larping is ETERNAL
5:02
"and i have a severe amount of brain damage"
Ok Commander, I will still use Mee6.
some time ago I reported mee6 in app directory for that gambling feature since it’s against the tos
two days later discord sent an email that they didn’t break the tos 💀💀💀💀
LOL THE HIGH PITCH VOICE AT THE END
Dang discord really should hire you
You could save discord
We should stop using MEE6 and replace it with a better, free bot
nice to see that this video exists
So UA-cam stepped in to crush competition against Discords proprietary bot software of choice.
Looks Like Mee6 and Discord Are Best Friends. How Cute 😳
femaie genitals
Ayo A Fellow Phone Contact Typer! C'mon Bro We Gotta Play Minecraft Ripoff Together
youtube title speakers be like
Its funny how these people commented about the quality of this video directly when it came out, seems to ruin the reason to comment if you originally just want attention and not want to discuss the topics of the video
Hydra still works as a music bot, it uses Spotify links which is cool
When you have a lifetime supply of stale bread, make french toast and meatballs
wait for google to get onto this and to send a cease and desist
3:29 I am a proud supporter of anime bot "Mundae".
and to think i bought a lifetime pass YEARS ago
*turns on all the settings and informs community members to have their way*
I can't really get mad at top gg, if I was in their shoes I would never deny the 100k
i was having a bad day and that mwa at the end somehow cheered me up
thank you, ntts
Not trying to be mean but lord it sounds like you don’t have many folk close to you
correct fart gaming 3959 @@2moist2meaty
i haven’t slept in 15 hours
My integrity > 100000
My integrity < World Peace
Oh dang, when I saw the thumbnail I thought this was a playlist 😂😅
Saying that MEE6 is the grinch would imply that it gets a change in heart. I don't think that's gonna happen.
3:17 woah jimmy neutron? Do you remove you make myself sad
Wait, so is there nothing UA-cam can do about this? Couldn't they just sue Mee6?
Mee6 you did it again and you thought I wouldn't notice. Turns out the community has been keeping an eye on Mee6 and recording their stupid mistakes. Mee6 keeps messing up and breaking Discord's rules.
And I got breaking news, hardcore calculations that show how much Mee6 spends on ads, and finally some insider knowledge on the corruption of Mee6. This video is a wild ride and if you enjoyed it, please let a brother know 💖
Bro made a spreadsheet for every bid of mee6 manually I’m dead 💀
Quick note, as a friend who has a lifetime subscription has pointed out, it's not actually "lifetime", apparently it runs out after about 10 or so years. That's still long as heck but lol, "lifetime".
I'm pretty sure thats allowed on some legal point
To be fair, it doesn't necesarily mean that they play youtube videos if they support youtube links and so on. Of course, here it does as that video is only on youtube, but anyway:
I had a bot that supported spotify links, but played it from youtube instead. It still did show spotify metadata and if you clicked on it, spotify would open, but it didn't use spotify in a way that breaks spotify's TOS. Yet the bot got banned by discord for breaking TOS of their partners (hit 1.2k servers, way less than other music bots that are fine and thriving ...), and discord refuses to communicate exact reason or reverse the ban. The bot did nothing else that could be breaking TOS of any of their partners.
And then discord has the balls to pause my Spotify if my mic activity is on for 30 seconds
as a person, yes i would.
as a company, no, we need the fat stacks.
Baffled that nobody has gone full OSS for bots. Time to get started I suppose.
MEE6 do be scamming teenagers into buying $80 worth of money. You might as well spend it on 3 other better bots. Or buy 5 pizzas. Never buy premium for MEE6.
I also have seen and heard people getting different types of ads from bots like mee6 or mee6 itself
like completely different servers
This bot is breaking TOS of discord, UA-cam and probably 10s of other platforms and corrupt this has to get illegal at some point
6:15 love the name of the google sheet
That's why we always see the same bots in sponsored, because their bets are bigger than other ones and always appear. Poor small bots that can't bet a lot
1:19 a man of culture
man calls mudae monday 💀
I got that dm after I watch the video. It took awhile but I got it. I wasn't surprised at all.
the only bot i’ve ever truly loved was Vexera
Glad I use Carl for moderation and Arcane for leveling up
Ditched Mee6 premium today for Dyno, Pepe Manager and Streamcord
The monthly votes in the top left of that website did a tangent and wrapped around infinity to 0
If I owned Discord I'd actually change the TOS so if the bots make money on premium memberships then the money has to get through Discord. I'd also reserve the right to take the money stored temporarily (withdraws would be monthly let's say) when banning a bot, and then just before withdrawal ban the bots that break TOS. Though from an ordinary user's perspective, if Discord implemented this, it would kinda suck, too...
I really wish youtube didn't care what was played through bots. Other services do not have the long mixes and sound effects I want to play on discord😢
hello brother, for 4:00 sadly topgg doesn't really pay you money. The credits they give are only for advertisements to be ran in their own website
but mee6 wants to use the money for advertising so it doesn’t really matter for them anyway right?
@@mrtbts yeah, id imagine they want to not spend a cent extra on there and still get ad slots because they want them to pay for themselves
Arcane is a great alternative to MEE6
My man has 27 TB folder filled with stock videos
MEE6 though you wouldn't notice!!!
when i saw at some server that mee6 plays music i was like "oh i dont need special bots for it, mee6 is popular bot so-" and it ended that i needed to add 6 songs to queue t play one bc this shit plays randomly
You said munday 😭😭😭😭3:26
mee6 gonna be able to buy half of their groceries with all that topgg money