WINDOWS 12 Is Coming!
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- Currently, there are a number of reports, rumors, and even leaks suggesting that Windows 12 is in the works.
In this video I go into why a Windows 12 release would make total sense for Microsoft, especially when we take into consideration all the circumstances surrounding Windows 11.
VIDEO CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
0:35 Leaks and Rumors
2:03 Why Win12 Makes Sense
2:30 Reason #1
4:15 Reason #2
5:53 Reason #3
7:25 Reason #4
#Windows12 - Наука та технологія
Windows 12 - AI powered Microsoft Telemetry 🤔🤔
Ai powered bugs 💀💀💀
Gpt4+powershell 🔝
Moco$oft AI spyware.
@@Sinke_100 Jajaja.
Windows Users: Oh hell nah.
Remember that time Microsoft said Windows 10 is gonna be the last and latest version of Windows
😂😂😂 fxcking scammers
Just like everyother fast & furious movie
yall repetitive af its irritating to hear every single time
@@andronut Go and take a nap...or go outside, you're cranky
@@dbsirius you the guy that would constantly tell people that it was said by a single ms employee and not getting tired from it
It's year 2100, my grandkids are upgrading to newly released Windows 60.
Windows classic with the look of 3.11.
Windows 2000 literally
And they STILL haven't fixed all the bugs
I get the feeling that Windows 12 will just be polishing the turd of Windows 11. It would be nice if the people at Microsoft would listen to what people really want in their O.S. instead of just making the system harder and harder to navigate and control.
Thats why I use Linux, O.S. made by people for people.
At this point, if you're still using Windows, maybe the polished turd is exactly what you want.
Shiny turd fun
yup 12 will be like 7, 8.1 have to go in and FIX everything. like 8.1 putting START back in
That is NOT all: Microsoft Windows need to bring back their smart phones plus+ their tablets as well. Back then, Windows phones + tablets were just as great + perfection as Android tablet + phones.💻🖥📱🖱⌨
• Having started with Windows *_3.1_* (on floppies!), I'm convinced that the good/bad cycle is real.
• I think people might be confused about the early versions if they forget that *_98_* had a second edition.
• *_95_* was an incredible advance on *_3.1_* but then *_98_* failed to live up to expectation. However, *_98SE_* was the fix that gave us a hugely popular and able OS.
• *_Me_* (which I always thought was pronounced "em-ee") was dire, but then the hallowed *_XP_* came along, and seemed like the last OS we'd ever need; indeed, according to Statista, as of January 2023, approximately 4.5 million computers in the world are still running it.
• As mentioned in the video, *_Vista_* got the same reception as *_Me_* and you know the rest.
The good/bad cycle all depends on how you count the releases.
1985 - Windows 1.0
1987 - Windows 2.0
1990 - Windows 3.0
1990 - (OS/2 was joined work between Microsoft and IBM that Microsoft left to work more on Windows, taking parts of OS/2 3.0 and making it Windows NT)
1992 - Windows 3.1
1993 - Windows NT 3.1
1993 - Windows 3.11 Windows for Workgroup
1994 - Windows NT 3.5x
1995 - Windows 95 (with some more releases to OEMs with full FAT32support, Internet Explorer 3.0 and USB support Windows 95r2 and 95r2,1 and 95r2.5)
1996 - Windows NT 4.0
1998 - Windows 98
1999 - Windows 98 SE
2000 - Windows 2000 (February 2000)
2000 - Windows Me (September 2000) The first non Windows NT codebase version that actually could be called a new OS as it didn't need DOS to run.
2001 - Windows XP (6 different releases during 2001-2005 counting 64 bit release and Media Center Edition but still counting them as Windows XP)
2007 - Windows Vista
2009 - Windows 7
2012 - Windows 8
2013 - Windows 8.1 (yes, it's counted as it's own release as it was a major change on Windows 8 and got the same increase in build number as between Windows 7 and Windows 8 and a new major codename change)
2015 - Windows 10 (1507, 1511, 1607, 1703, 1709, 1802, 1809, 1903, 1909, 2004, 20H2, 21H1, 21H2 and 22H2) One can argue that each new release should be counted as a new version, or at least count 1507-1511 as one, 1607-1809 as one 1903 as one and 1909-22H2 as one because Microsoft gave them completely new major Codenames and they took forever to update to (basically installing a new OS).
2021 - Windows 11 (21H2, 22H2) Both releases have the same major Codename.
And all these are consumer/professional versions and not counting server versions.
Except it's been "bad" since version 8. That's why I use Linux since then. No spyware, no security issues, no malware, no tracking and no aggressive registration/activation. I can also move the taskbar where I want and networking is so easy while Windows became a nightmare, and there is far more. Apple and Chrome OS is no option, just as invasive to our lives. For what, just to sell them to the highest advertising bidder. My life is deMicrosofted, deAppled and deGoogled. And life is good again.
Windows XP was the successor to 2000 and 2000 successor to NT 4, as Windows line ended with Me, NT family of OSs took over and Windows XP is NT design with the home user is n mind and clever marketing to make it sound like a Windows update when it was a Windows NT update why a lot of users discovered some of their old software didn’t work as for one NT don’t allow direct access to IO stuff like out or in to access the parallel port some users found that out the hard way
@@insoft_uk I should have made it clearer that my list was a reflection of the average home user's experience, with versions aimed at business and/or servers omitted. ;-)
What about Windows 2000?
The computer I'm using right now was running very slow with Windows 10 even though it is 4 core, 6gb ram and intel i5. So I loaded it with Linux Mint and it is FLYING. It's a whole, different machine.
Everyone needs to just rip off the bandaid and go to Linux
Just a heads up, Windows stopped being Microsoft's flagship for long time. The team working on Windows might be very tiny. Most of their resources, nowadays, goes to Azure and that's where they get the most money. That also explains the (tried to) change to service-based since it's cheaper and cost-effective.
Linux is eating Windows lunch.
@@Nighterlev isn’t chrome os a Linux distro
Exactly, and now they're using the government to create regulations to force everybody business to use their services.
@@Nighterlev its based on linux lmao
@@qwerte6948 still not linux. the average user never interacts with its linux components. and the linux dev enviroment that can be used on chrome os is just a debian vm
AI in my OS just means more things they take away my control of, and more spying on what I do. I would still be on 7 if my hardware supported it. I will not move off 10 until the same situation arises. Every iteration removes more of the granular control the user used to have. More and more often we are forced into registry edits to change things that used to be easily found in Control Panel. I really wish there were some competition in the OS space. I remember Windows 386, a really long time ago. And I was always a proponent of Windows, until 10. Spying, making it harder to change the look/feel/operation on my own computer. They're out of control, and we have no real viable alternative.
so you would have remained on 7 despite the lack of security patches and potential zero-day vulnerabilities?
@@reignmack You forgot to mention REQUIRED hardware updates, subscription "services", and being on the "cloud". Yes, I am still using Windows 7 and with the way things are looking it will be my last MS product.
@@reignmack windows 98 still to this day recieves security updates.
Same with windows 7. Not everything is backwards compatible, every blue moon I need to boot up 98, and I do it connected to the internet.
There is no reason to be fearful of the lack of security updates from microsoft for your OS. On the contrary, sh*t has a tendancy to break with auto updates of ANY kind.
When you are computer fluent you really don't want "something hidden going on behind your back" which is why the LACK of security updates and turning off driver auto updates is a GOOD thing, not a bad.
Me personally wouldn't have switched to 10 unless Steam is ceasing functionallity for 7 next year.
I don't want a ... how to put it.... "hyper left leaning" AI ( ask any big language model what they think about communism, holodomir, child transitioning, capitalism et.c. et.c.) autocorrect my work documents - a feature they bragged about in windows 11, and now with the manufacture auto-response from Alexa being INTERPRETED as "racist" which led to Amazon shutting down a smart house and had the user blacklisted.
And why would I want to be forced to use cloud storage? How many times of major security breaches i.e. 'the fappening' but on a business side do we really need to suffer before the cloud is finally viewed with no tinted glasses.
Everything new is not good, Nothing good is new.
And one of the first "FEATURES" was a big-brother chip NEEDED to run windows 11, which was quickly silenced and "patched out", will it return in 12?
So the first argument against staying on older OS is rejected "lack of security updates", the second and last argument is "it's free" - which is a non-argument, I can give you a week old sandwich from the gas station and ask you to eat it - for free, why wouldn't you? it's free.
What lol loloolllol
Linux
Most of the real AI performance comes from the server backend, so as much as some hardware manufacturers might try to showcase AI circuitry for the end user, it's silly to be honest. To me increased use of AI points more towards an always internet connected OS with a subscription smodel, which is what MS has been trying to move people towards anyway.
Like Internet portals.
Pure Capitalism. Only the rich benefit in this modern world.
@@leecmh Are you sure you replied to the correct comment?
@@Gramini is he wrong? The only reason there is such an incredible hype around AI, is to accelerate tasks, even fully automate tasks, so the rich can spend less money to make even more than they already have. That inevitably what has set in motion and it will only get worse as AI improves. We don't yet know the limits of this technology and it probably will be a long while until it innovation in this field stagnates.
Companies cater more to the shareholders than the customers, because god forbid the company might not increase their profits year over year to quench the greed of investors. Any money that is saved, or earned by using AI will go straight back to those already fortunate enough to benefit from a company's improved margins, which is never the consumer nor the regular employee.
Running AI models local is useful too in situation like Text to Speech for accessibility menu narration (should work offline too) or simple photo editing capabilities. On cellphone etc where data could be expensive there is a cost benefit to run them local.
Windows 12's development and release sounds like a similar fiasco Miscrosoft had with Windows 8 where it was unpopular and even affected their shares. As a result of that, they quickly pushed out 8.1 and then went full-steam into Windows 10 development reverting back to a lot of the familiarity of Windows 7 (while still making it a mess).
Man, I really appreciate the comment about audio form. I wish more YT creators did that. I consume most of my UA-cam while doing other things and can’t actually watch the screen.
With the potential for AI Powered Telemetry and ChatGPT being integrated into the search bar, I recon now is as good as time as ever to pickup a Linux distro such as Linux Mint or KDE Neon and bail on the Windows ecosystem as a whole.
At this rate Linux already more user-friendly than Windows 11 and that trend doesn't seem to be stopping soon.
Been running ubuntu for a month now as a beginner to linux stuff.
I'm so thankful that Linux exists because with the direction Windows is going in we will need a "dumb" OS even if we're forced to use Windows at work or for some specific software. Honestly if I wasn't a gamer I probably wouldn't even use Windows for the last few years and with how far tools like Proton have come along gaming on Linux can be perfectly doable depending on your game library.
@@electricindigoball1244 Proton literally works better for me for a lot of games on my laptop. Probably because way less overhead from how bloated windows is. I mainly play Resident Evil 5 and 6 and a bunch of indie games.
You won't regret that decision.
Linux sounds more promising with each every day
"Cant's say Windows 11 is a bad OS" The mandatory & aggressive telemetry from 10 & 11 automatically make them bad OS's. Their perks, despite how useful, don't negate that fact. Let's also not forget the silent upgrades that Win10 made to users' machines without their permission upon its debut.
Can I just say, this video being able to be consumed oth only audio is really a life saver! It really allows me to do some other work while 'watching' youtube
Too soon imo. They should first polish win11, like they did with win10. I'm still on 10 since my hardware is not officially supported by 11 (yeah I could circumvent that but I chose not to), I could see myself heavily modifying it to suit my needs.
I agree, windows 12 will be as filled with bugs as 11.
My guess is they want to rush Windows 12 to move on from the Good/Bad mindset that's affecting 11.
Historically, Microsoft publishes its operating system in Beta state and after a few years of use, they release a "new" one (the previous one but finished).
Win. Vista (beta)
Win. 7
Win. 8 (beta)
Win. 10
Win. 11 (beta)
Win. 12
I think you can go to language settings and set Windows 11 to Polish yourself
I wish MS would do something like 5 years between major releases with 3 years of feature updates, and 10 years of security support for each OS.
The feature team could move onto build and debug features for the next OS after feature updates for the previous OS are done.
People never mention Windows 8.1, which was phenomenal, especially with all the updates.
Yes, what's up with that. I used it for years without any problems. The problem I have is all of the major changes in how we have to get around in the operating system. From 3.1 to 8.1 it was relatively the same procedures to get around in them. We could use and make changes simply without relearning the operating system. It's like constantly putting your tools in a different drawer in your tool box and then having to relearn muscle memory all of the time. It's not productive unless there is a real need for it. Another problem is there is no competition. All of the programs such as OEM marine engine diagnostics are built for windows only.
My favourite version of windows tbh it was much snappier feeling than windows 7 and once you turned off the live tiles thing so it booted right into the desktop as well as using start menu 8 (I think it was called) to get it to look like win 7 it was GG for me.
I had no major issues that I can remember and it ran flawlessly for years until I upgraded to 10 then later on 11.. Still kinda miss it tbh as everything I had just worked for the most part without there being any major hassles unlike windows 10 which for the first 6 months was broken for me hardware wise (screens turning off and on every few seconds or so) Also game crashing/bluescreening etc on the software side.
I remember optimizing a customers computer ultilizing win8.1. Just as a throw away service after I had repaired their laptop. It was normal speed at first. Then I disabled all the useless process etc and I was shocked. It was butter smooth. It was so smooth and fast infact, I had to research why it was like that compared to win10 etc. I saw a lot of comparisons with boot times and was amazed to learn it was the fastest. The thing damn near blinked on from shutdown when I was done with it.
People never mention it maybe because it messes with the good/bad cycle model. But if you just make it fit then win10 becomes the bad release, which I'm fine with. 8.1 was the last of windows as a product, and not a service.
W8.1 was a service pack for W8. Remains the fact that W7 was imo the last good Windows.
AI controlled OS brings just makes me think it is going to be another version of Clippy, but worse. Clippy was annoying because it was trying to be smarter than its user, but ended up getting in the way more often than helping. I have a feeling that the AI for Windows 12 is going to be allot of the same, but is going to be more taxing on your machine because the AI is constantly running in the background watching everything you do and sending it back to Microsoft. Only occasionally popping out of the shadows to tell you that you're using Windows wrong.
This honestly sounds scary and dystopian.
not "Controlled", AI will be seperate.
If you'll not be able to turn it off in regedit, then I'm switching to Linux permanently, fuck Microsoft.
AI inevitably translates to less privacy as AI 'recommendations' is based on collecting data. Imagine your PC recommending you cold medicine and a doctor cause it 'heard' you sneezing. Yes, not all AI is bad, but all AI does need data to work.
windows 11 is excellent at tracking and monitoring everything you do😊
It literally takes days to go through and turn off the tracking settings.
I think that Microsoft should have tried hard to make windows 11 run on low end hardware.
I have a laptop from 2016 which does have a TPM chip it was just disabled in the bios by default and for some reason Microsoft still was not letting me install windows 11.
I had to do the registry changes to make it work.
Another thing is that they tried making windows 11 look like and smartphone OS
like the notification panel, the animations, the Microsoft app store all just make it look like a smartphone OS not an OS which operates on a PC.
I have a Dell 2018 with a badass Intel CPU that didn't had TPM and barely used it until 2 years ago, and I refuse to buy another Laptop just for Win 11. If we're to buy one with the same specs as the one I currently have it would be 900 bucks or close to it, ridik
Like windose 8.
If you have low end hardware you should be installing Linux anyway
@@objectobject9099 That's not the main reason. Obviously you don't know anything.
@@objectobject9099 I could but I have used windows for my whole life now and gaming on linux is not good enough.
If they add AI, while they literally fired their ethic team, then that's a nope.
i thought the idea to just have windows and then releasing updates would be way better than a full release
one OS that keeps getting better over time is better then releasing new version and abandoning the previous release
You got it in one..Windows are not calling it windows 12
But they need to resell licences to people who have already paid which is rubbish but still sadly the way things are
Arch(btw)?
They need to tell the user what version of Windows they are on, so they can learn it. If it's just Windows without a version number, and it's always changing with multiple updates, how do I learn it? Those version numbers are good defining points.
@@ww1flyingace263 no. Win 10 at the start of it's life is very different from win 10 now, version numbering doesn't need to be on the box.
AI powered windows should have a file transfer bar that is accurate, taking into account every file process that has run, and having separate predictions for "lots of small files" vs "some large files".
Edit: Fixed mall to small. And, yay, 58 likes so far!
Amazing idea. However I have concerns? Like how does it train this? If it sort of collects data and sends it back to Microsoft I don't like that. Probably means it can identify what files your using due to name, file size, dates etc. Things that would likely be used to train such a feature. So as long as all the training is done on microsofts end. And the AI that runs on windows 12 is not collecting and sending or leaking data back. That is fine. But I would not want an AI working as a secret agent on my PC. lol
It will be AI that also tells MS about everything you do
@@MrArrmageddon It could be trained based on filesize and amount of files. No file names or contents would be shared. Also, it could take windows processes into account, since microsoft knows how they would be scheduled
My opinion of W11 based on use since release is: I continue to be underwhelmed by W11. There is in my opinion, nothing bad about it. But there is nothing about it that stands out for me..
Start menu became worse
What is the minimum CPU you will need for Windows 12 , or are they ditching that stupid CPU requirement that Windows 11 had but did not need.
They need to drum up hardware sales for their partners, especially since most customers already have more than enough power to run their programs without requiring an upgrade every 4 years.
@@hermanwooster8944 bingo
At this point the only people upgrading to the latest windows versions are the tech UA-camrs covering it
No, boomers who don't know how to stop it are also getting upgraded.
Sometimes I think that they’re trying to become like macOS where you get a new version every year but if they’re just gonna keep releasing versions like this are they gonna continue with activation and all that because it would be annoying to have to keep buying a new key whenever you build a system.
I feel like there is a sector of the community that doesnt want their computer locked to windows only or even want to have access to the information sent abroad. If you look at the difference in internet traffic sent to third parties in comparison to say, XP? there is a vast difference. The AI integration honestly scares me as a consumer as much as the company is already mining me for information without any warning on when and how aside from, "they might".
I can imagine a future when there are underground groups that pay ridiculous amounts of money for AI-free operating systems and processors made by random companies.
It's called Linux and it is 100% free now and for the foreseeable future.
@@PeterHonig. Ah yeah except you have to find a nice distro that does everything you need and is not broken at the same time. Or you're stuck with things like ubuntu which are really not all that trustworthy according to Richard Stallman. And what do you think about the processors that come with embedded AI? Tech is moving forward at a really fast phase and 10 years fast forward, our best current hardware will probably be practically junk. And I feel concerned about this AI inside every chip these companies make. Like phone chips all them have embedded AI. And even Intel and AMD are starting to do the same thing. Since we never really know what they actually do on the background because they're all closed source. I know it kinda sounds paranoid but that's how ideas form. I think all AI must be open source or else it should be illegal.
let satan in so here comes Ai
@@fatihyener7589 The TPM thing already hands over your PC ownership to Microsoft, remotely. Your next computer will take part in Microsoft's botnet, functionality of which will be masked as "Antimalware Service Executable".
@@rtyzxc True, but we can still at least play with group policy settings and disable things in windows 10 so microsoft can't execute any commands even if they can still practically send your kernel orders thru the TPM, essentially you are breaking the software by doing that so it throws an error rather than following microsoft's command whether it's scanning for malware or giving up on your details or handing over remote access. Does it make your desktop experience bad? Yes. Does it also make your pc vulnerable? Yes. But if you're on a processor with embedded AI, good luck because AI can actually identify the problem and fix those settings you messed up without even telling you. And in that case it doesn't even matter what operating system you are on. It's concerning to have embedded software that can do things if they are told to, without the user's permission nor knowledge.
I never moved to Windows 11 because I don't think it's finished, and they're already making a new 'OS' - Is Microsoft just not capable of finishing their products any more?
No operating system is finished nowadays, why do you think that any other OS like macOS, Android, Linux distro constantly gets a newer version. Windows 12 will be improved version of Windows 11 and then Windows 13 will be an improved version of 12
@@TheTytan007 they get feature updates and it takes more than 4 years before current config gets dropped outside the smartphone market.
@@Dave102693 On the fundamental level feature updates and new versions of Windows, Android, some Linux distros, macOS, iOS and ChromeOS are the same thing and require entire os to be reinstalled or swapped.
Just wait until they move Windows to the cloud and you're running it OSaaS style (Operating System as a Service) with a small monthly fee.
(tries to open Task Manager)
Windows 12: I can't let you do that, David.
Was Windows 11 that bad that they need the next one?
Yup
Yeah
as a Win 11 user, yes 100%
It's terrible I am so glad I kept 10 on my home pc
Personally i like windows 11, even though I do see it is rushed, still inconsistent, but 10 was too, it's just windows 10 but with a new look, and the new look imo looks great
when ever i think of windows 11 i came up with a name for it "the windows 10.1 circle update" i call it that because everything now is just rounded corners and some ui changes fundamentally at its core to my knowledge its mostly windows 10 so i treat it akin to that of windows 8 vs 8.1 in terms of what changes happened
I don't even feel Windows 11 is finished lol
They will treat Windows 11 like Windows 8
@@annoyingguyoninternet1631 Windows 8 at least was fast and bloatware-free
@@unknown_codec_404 its just downhill from 8.1 It was the last okay operating system. 7 still the goat.
@@Vipce I thought 7 was looking back with nostalgic glasses but i found window 10 to be the better system.
It never will
You make many great points. Two things I hate are:1) having to get new software and hardware to work on a new system; 2) learning how to work the new system when I am already acclimated to and comfortable with the old system........ Remember that "New and Improved" does not necessarily beat "Tried and True"
Better than saying "Stay Strong", instead say "Stay Happy". ........P.S. I loved XP.
The user experience for me was honestly quite OK despite being on the Dev channel. I believe that Windows 11's release statement mentioned mostly graphical changes, otherwise it is still nearly identical to Windows 10. Performance-wise, one of my machines is doing OK, while the other made me drop the F-bomb on even Windows 10, urging me to downgrade to Windows 7.
I have Windows 11 on my new laptop. I think it's one of the best versions of Windows. However, it's still Windows. I've gotten random blue screens and autoreboots that I only found out about after I got up.
I use Linux primarily. The above are two reasons why.
I wasn't really impressed by windows 11, I still sticked to 10. Hope they make it better this time.
I wish i also sticked to Win 10. 11 is so slow and bulky, harder to navigate and overall worse than 10 even though it brings nothing new to the table.
it’s visa 2.0 - that’s why
I upgraded to Windows 11 almost a year ago, and I've seen better performance compared to Windows 10 (at least on my home laptop, it sometimes felt like an MS-DOS computer). But I still stick with Windows 10 in other places.
Can't wait until windows finally releasing windows 69 and I'm waiting for it.
Been on Windows since 3.11 and have installed and ran every OS they put out including NT. My favorites are 98SE, XP, VISTA, 8 and 11 thus far. These are the OS's I ran on my own rig. The best one so far was VISTA, I could play older games and newer ones on the same OS!! Those days are now gone...so sad.
Man, you have so good speaking skills. I can listen to you for hours.
I miss windows 10 touch features on 11. Therefore, I'm still on 10 since I have a 2-in-1. It just doesn't feel at all designed for touch, like using Windows 7 on an old Surface. Also, my computer can technically run it, but with 8GB soldered RAM, it's slow as molasses. It uses 6GB RAM with a fresh install on idle. Windows 10 in comparison is typically around 1.3GB. I don't know why 11 uses so much RAM, but that's one issue. It doesn't support most computers anyway without installing freshly. The other issue is that the desktop lacks features and customizability...you can't change anything. I'd like widgets on the desktop, and a desktop that actually does something. Perhaps, integrating an optional Bing AI feature, news, or scrollable widgets. It should be similar, and in-sync with Microsoft launcher (that too could use Bing AI)...that launcher is nice, but seems stagnant. Though above all, it just needs to be more optimized.
Idk but I don't got your video in notifications/Subscriptions and recieved it as a recommendation 2 days later
They shouldn't worry about get this out too soon, they should take their time and get us a better product
I hope all the AI "features" in 12 can be turned off. I, for one, do not want AI assistance unless I ask for it. If we think the telemetry is bad now, can you imagine what it will be like in 12?
I can't move to Linux, but I just want a lightweight Windows OS that focuses on stability, reliability and not continually adding eye candy tweaks in order to convince the masses that something "new" has occurred in an update.
I used to be part of the Windows Insider program. As a visually impaired user, I kept sending bug reports about their Narrator accessibility tool.
They never listened and completely ignored the comprehensive list of issues. In fact, it got worse, losing a key feature that never returned. I gave up with the Insider program when I'd receive notifications about how there was a new colour on the Windows Explorer bar now and other such trivial UI tweaks.
I'm looking very much forward to it I think would be a great thing to help out lunches and I'll be thrilled
Honestly hard to predict anything at this ponit, there are so many ways they could take this, I am imagining GPT4 in Windows 12 itself, that programs can access through various APIs, devs would go wild with the thing.
It would be way powerful than GPT4. Probably a sentient language model
@@Ash97345 😂😂😂😂
@@DanskeCrimeRiderTV oh you can laugh for now
Sounds like "Winter is coming" 😬
My main issue with Windows 11 is that so many PCs that are still pretty new are not supported. It's not an issue of hardware strength even, but of presence or absence of certain security components.
wait, there's a Windows 12? But I haven't even finished ignoring Windows 11 yet.
If I remember well, when windows 10 was launched, Microsoft said that version would be the last.
Windows 12 wish-list:
• Fix Search. It's still painfully slow. Third party apps prove that it can be done much better.
• Reduce the collected telemetry data, and provide a unified opt-out in settings, in one single page with easy to understand descriptions of what each setting does. It may even be helpful for them to create videos on each privacy setting, explaining it's function, why it's needed, and by what apps. What the user might lose if they disable it, and a complete sample of the data collected.
• Context-aware shortcuts. The virtual desktop feature is cumbersome at best. I suggest scrapping it for a revamped version of "Focus Assist". Instead of just silencing notifications, it could hide icons for games when "Focus" mode is on, and replace them with user-customizable utilities. A similar "Games Mode", by contrast would swap the icons to your games library and suspend, non-essential background processes. A "Streaming Mode" that sets the video contrast to a customizable cinematic preset, puts you in Dolby Atmos mode, silences notifications, etc. You could set different wallpapers and themes for different modes. The significant part is it's context-aware. When you're opening a spreadsheet during work hours, it knows you're working and can change modes automatically. Open up Netflix and it switches to Cinema mode.
• They need a product comparable to HomeAssistant for smart home control. It could be bundled with a home-user version of PowerAutomate. If you set yourself into streaming mode, for example, it can dim the lights, draw the curtains, etc.
• We need a new Media player. Windows Media Player has sucked for 2 decades now. VLC works, but is behind the times in terms of features. MediaPlayer Black is likewise lagging behind the current tech, like AI up-scaling. What we need is a small, fast program, with a minimalist interface, but a high degree of control over the video/audio output, that ISN"T bogged down with DRM checks and constant library updating. It could even serve as a portal for various streaming services, for those using it in an HTPC, similar to Kodi or Plex, but for online content.
• Better VPN integration. There are many great VPN services, but most of them use clunky interfaces that are unintuitive and look like they were designed in 2002. A single, uniform icon in the task tray that you can add your VPN account and standard settings to would be helpful. It could be combined with the standard network icon.
• An integrated alternative to things like Docker for running virtual images on WSL. A lot of self-hosted apps could then be listed in the Microsoft Store. One-click installation for things like Pi-Hole, for example.
• Edge needs containerized tabs, integrated ad-blocking, local CDN alternatives, etc. The privacy settings there need a real boost. It also needs a much better download manager integrated. It should be able to handle torrents natively, do MD5 hash checks, resume interrupted downloads, etc.
• Nostalgic Easter-eggs. Maybe resurrect "Clippy" as an optional front-end for their AI chat-bot. Bring back the Hot Dog Stand theme from 3.11. Honestly, a little amusing acknowledgement of past blunders would make their critics chuckle a bit and maybe appreciate the advances they've made since those times.
• Bring back some incarnation of Windows 98's "Active Desktop", in which a local HTML document can be used as your background wallpaper. That actually had remarkable utility, and the security concerns now are not what they were back when they scrapped it. Enable real customization of the Operating System.
• Better, emotive TTS voices. They exist now, there's no shortage of them. It would be nice to have a system voice that sounded more human.
• Merge the authenticator app with a self-hosted password manager (local-only by default, unless hosting is enabled and configured). Move it to the tasktray or the notification center buttons. If hosting is enabled, create a one-time-use share password. If I want to share a password with Dave, I can send an obfuscated password directly to his device, which when used by him (on supported sites and services) will grant him access, without divulging my actual password, and can have an expiration I set.
• A "Tone" and "Fact" checking layer for text on the screen. Similar to Spelling and Grammer checking, toggling the view on would use AI to highlight phrases and sentences which may be too passive, too unprofessional, too aggressive, etc. It could also warn users if they are about to post something that is factually incorrect. If you were to type "90% of Argentineans are blonde", that's easily refuted. The AI could easily see that you are asserting something as a verifiable fact and prompt you (only when you enable the feature), that the actual number is less than 1% of it's nearly 46 million person population, and then cite the source of that information. This could help stop the spread of misinformation by alerting people to when they're repeating something that is factually incorrect. They still need to turn that mode on to even have their statements evaluated, and they can ultimately decide to post anyway, without accepting the changes, but at least they are aware of potential issues.
• Invisible to AI partitions. The contents of these partitions cannot be indexed, accessed by AI, there is zero collected telemetry on the contents of the partition, and any application accessing resources from the partition are exempted from any data collection. We can do this with virtual machines, but frankly that's a bit overkill for that purpose. These partitions would be inaccessible to remote connections. If you have sensitive client data, financial records, etc you don't want accessed by anything.
• A warning for some of the older folks. If you are about to allow any type of remote connection to your PC, through any service, the user is prompted with a reminder that their technicians will NEVER call you first, and if someone claims otherwise, they should not allow the connection. AI could also be leveraged to identify potential scam emails by verifying links for the user, etc.
There are so many 3rd party applications that working much better than Microsoft could possibly do such as NotePad++. Agree about Media Player though, don't understand why Microsoft dropped it, enjoyed it a lot.
I want control over my hardware. I don't want to be interpreted - I want to be obeyed by my software. My system shall be empty, technically flawless and efficient (no preventable runtime errors, crashes or wasted CPU load), and it shall be visually/usabilitywise customizable - capable of installing, configuring and executing things I tell it to. For the masses with an optional software bundle for a quick start. I want to know and control everything that goes in and out and how it's processed/sent/received. I want to be indepentend from clouds/edges/remote-intrusion/telemetry and I don't want to be compelled to state everything I don't want (blacklist), but rather I only want, what I state I want (whitelist).
In short: An empty offline-first platform that is compatible with as much software as possible; That does as little as possible behind the scenes to make it work.
You want Linux!
is ryzen 5 7520u has ai core streams and supports Win12
At some point I will switch to Linux due to all the "bullshit" ms adds to windows.
You should do it and I promise you that you won't regret it. Linux or Mac OS is the way to go.
Now is a pretty good time. I set up a Linux Mint dual boot a few weeks ago on my personal PC (mostly for browsing and gaming) and haven't touched 10 since then.
Will it support intel core i3 11th gen processors?
the one i have is 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-1115G4 ( the official speed is 3.00Ghz but i overclocked it so its about 4.07Ghz)
This is speculation based on the current tech situation and previous precedent. He doesn't have any inside info on whether specific chips will be able to handle it.
I don't have a good view of the upcoming "Windows 12" it will probably just be windows 11 but more polished. I prefer to stay on one windows version and then get feature updates instead.
the part of it now speaking to you when you type in a question into the search bar is kind of cool but i wish i had more control over the voice used. I have 80 AI voices for another TTS program connected to another program etc. with connected programs until you get to Blender output audio channels. So knowing how to use some or all of those voices i have trained already would be nice but so far is not a thing in the windows OS. It is a thing you can add to it but not built into the system. Quality of Life improvement that few if any will use and i really hope whoever made the voice for all those years ago got paid well as it is the default for everything in all versions of windows since added if you want TTS and now to talk with cortana. ... kind of it has a selection of voices if you dig for it.
Windows 12 with AI chips and AI software sounds like hell.
@4:46 - Windows 2000 isn't listed! I used it for my home PC. It did work pretty good!
In my opinion, I like Windows 10 over Windows 11. It generally looks more professional, and it set the standard for operating systems. Like when Windows 7 was discontinued, many people stayed behind with it since it got the job done, I believe the same thing will occur to Windows 10.
Does anyone remember what was the NT in New Technology? Boxes ran two versions of itself at the same time, and any changes you made since power on would be made permanent in the second, saved version. (The first, backup version was there to recover from the constant Boxes 95-style blue-screen crashes.) 32-bit Boxes XP could address only 4GB of RAM. If you had that much installed, only half would be available for you to use. After NT's demands, only a few hundred MB would be available for your programs. Boxes XP would take 45 minutes to open one of my large Excel spreadsheets due to low available memory and constant swapping to the page file on the spinning hard drive. It didn't matter that I had a new Prescott Pentium 4. Memory hogging by Boxes for its own use made the computer useless for actual computational tasks. The computer would freeze and have to be restarted if I asked Excel to Calculate Now.
Nowadays, the industry is in a tizzy to get us to buy more and more cores, memory, and storage space. Why? Because Boxes runs so many background tasks spying on you, it needs the equivalent of several perfectly good stand-alone computers to process your activity -- while your activity needs only a couple cores and a gig or two of RAM. Even then, your mouse stutters. It's like having an old-fashioned keylogger dogging you.
Please notice that for a decade, Intel was in no hurry to move beyond its scheme of one-, two-, or four-core chips for budget, midrange, or high-end devices. Even games using DirectX 11 showed no benefit from more than four CPU cores.
The saving grace is that the majority are being priced out of the market, and henceforth will rely solely upon the spyware in their less-capable phones.
Windows 12 already??
I don't even have Windows 11 yet
Your not missing out on anything
Windows 11 is worse than 10 and I wouldn't recommend updating to it until the ui and home page doesn't look like an ipad
@@darkcastle85 it's just my windows 10 runs really slow
@@quinnarx basically, remove all win10 apps, also stop the pointless "updates" that don't protect you from anything, and win10 runs quicker !!!
@@h-dawg6462 can you send a video?
the final reason: its namesake is what it is like with any "unsupported" modifications. broken like a window... though I think that's a feature to them.
Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!
4:58
Windows ME - You forgot me!
8.1 - I'm good!
lol my IT still struggles delivering Win11 on all the machines, one coworker got win11 update a month ago while most of us did not. So rip IT I guess
I moved up to 10 before WIn7 EOL because of DX12 in gaming. What does 11 and 12 give me that makes it worth upgrading besides 10 being EOL?
There are a few reasons:
"DirectStorage
DirectStorage can bring faster storage speed. It bypasses the CPU to speed up game and texture loading, thus reducing game loading time and improving game performance. At the same time, it can reduce the CPU load.
To use this feature, you need to meet specific hardware: an NVMe SSD and a compatible GPU (e.g., any AMD RDNA2 card). With NVMe SSDs, it is possible to achieve amazing data transfer speeds. In addition, the DirectX 12 GPU should support Shader Model 6.0."
"P+E cores from Intel CPU's 12th Gen or higher boosts gaming too because:
Every operating system runs what is called a scheduler - a low-level program that dictates where workloads should be on the processor depending on factors like performance, thermals, and priority. A naïve scheduler that only has to deal with a single core or a homogenous design has it pretty easy, managing only power and thermals. Since those single core days though, schedulers have grown more complex.
Alder Lake has two sets of cores (P-cores and E-cores), but it actually has three levels of performance and efficiency: P-cores, E-Cores, and hyperthreads on P-cores. In order to ensure that the cores are used to their maximum, Intel had to work with Microsoft to implement a new hybrid-aware scheduler, and this one interacts with an on-board microcontroller on the CPU for more information about what is actually going on."
The issues come that every game that we have today can't make a huge use of the new systems because their code does not know to use this new features but in new games can be adopted and working in parallel for a few more years until W10 EOL. We can stay on W10 but with some new gaming titles we gonna have a hit in performance impact on W10.
From my perspective just lunch a linux distro ready for current gaming and update it accordingly for future gaming and everyone will be happy.
I tried linux mint still a disaster, is still missing a crazy amount of stuff to make any game working like charm from steam.
11 is bad because reg backup is disabled and if you install from scratch half the time system restore isn't turned on by default.
I subbed i never met a channel that allowed me to just listen than watch, very unique.
I wonder if there is going to be a Windows 13 as well as Windows 12 & Windows 12.1 platforms.
I believe one small way ai could effect the experience is if you have eye tracking, it would render more intensely in your line of focus and less so in your peripheral vision the same way vr is starting to do, but it could also be very valuable information to advertisers or even spyware to know exactly where your eye is looking
so that they know not only what you do, but also precisely what you look at. Wonderful...
Yeah, no. I don't keep my camera plugged into my machine because I know how easy it is for someone to hack them and watch you without you knowing. I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to design the OS to automatically record from any plugged in device so that they can note what brand underwear you wear so that they can sell that information to third parties.
That's awesome man. Anyway have you heard of Fedora GNU/LInux,
Yeah and the debian based Mint distro is a far better alternative to Windows than anything else. I'd rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the phone book than by all the politicians in the UK houses of parliament in the same way that I'd rather use an operating system developed by thousands of individuals committing code to a central thing than use an OS made by a large, corporate OEM like Microsoft or Apple.
If that's the case, looks like I'll be skipping Win 11 for Win 12, if it proves to be a worthy successor for Win 10 I'm currently running. And yeah, Win 7 is still the best version for me. Though judging from current Win 11 condition, I don't think Win 12 will amuse anyone.
Biggest issue with Windows 11 is system requirements which I doubt will be improved by 12
They probably will further increase them
@@FriedrichII1712 I think the main thing that will change is the supported CPUs start from even newer generations, lol
Me watching it as 12 days passed: nice
This video is talking about windows 12 and I am seeing this 12 days after it is created noice
when win 12 comes out, will we need processors with tpm 2.0?
Of course. Microsoft isn't going to just walk that back now that they've gotten everyone used the idea of needing it.
From Intel Skylake (2016, 6th generation) and AMD Ryzen (2017 1st gen), most Motherboards have an integrated TPM module. You only need to go to the BIOS and enable it.
The bigger problem is that Windows 11 supports only CPU's that are 2018 and newer (from 8th generation of Intel CPU's, i8xx, and 2nd generation of AMD Ryzen CPU's, 2xxx). Millions of computers with modern hardware are left out of Microsoft's upgrade cycle. 🤦♂
How will windows dye:
1. Terminating support for OpenGL and DirectX 8/9/10.
2. Terminating support for win32 apps in Windows 12.
3. Terminating support of MsStore and updates in Windows 10 and 11 right after the release of Windows 12.
4. Including anti-piracy software on hardware level.
5. Terminating support for normal games and apps in favor of UWP and .appx sht.
Except all of this is dogpile of trashy talk without any source or with a "source" of "I've just made it the hecc up..."
6:48 win 8.1??? It's the best.
IMO 11 is like Vista and 8, not actually that bad but not good, 12 will be like 7 and 8.1 "fixing the problems" really there weren't really that many problems after launch, people just need a new number to realize that.
That's not to say that 11 or 12 is/was/will ever be, perfect or even good because at the end of the day it's still windows.
AI should be a feature that you can opt in, but knowing how microsoft pushes their features on their users, it probably will be very hard to disable without modifying the registry. Just like the annoying bing search in the start menu. Maybe the Pro version will have a gui option to disable it.
The telemetry, ads and data collection have become so invasive in Windows. it really sucks. I still use Windows 11 for games, and because it's user friendly, and I like the UI, but I don't like the direction microsoft is heading. I tried to disable all of the bloat and telemetry with tronscript a while ago, but i'm still not sure how effective it was. If this trend continues I'm going to consider switching to something like MX Linux or manjaro.
What happened to Windows 10 being the last update?
Having AI be the main driving force of your OS is a LEGITIMATELY BAD idea. God forbid the AI gets confused, and believes that to best help and serve you, it must send all of the information about you to Russia or China, you’re screwed and there’s no way to predict when the AI will get confused. Imagine getting a copy of Windows 12, and then suddenly, you get weird messages in other languages that when you translate them, say something like “We will be visiting you to negotiate your possibility of life going forward. Your social credit score is very poor, and we believe you are in need of a punishment.” That’s why you DON’T make an AI powered OS. This is going to cause hundreds of thousands of people to get hurt. Offices can be shut down if the AI sees a game that you are developing as “problematic” in accordance to what it sees on Twitter, causing all computers in the studio to lock down because “shotguns are too violent according to Twitter”.
Microsoft: Win 11 is still beta
Also Microsoft: win 12 is coming soon
So from my perspective, I think Windows could definitely benefit from some AI built in. The thing is tho, I don't think they will use it in the same way I would want it to be used. For example, I would love for the start menu to by default load with AI suggestions that are based on what I was last doing, what apps I use a lot, what apps I use at this time of day, etc. In fact, my Android phone has this feature, and I use it practically as my normal way of opening apps on my phone. Another way I would like AI to be used is that if I open up an "Open" dialog, it has an option to go to the last place I navigated in Windows Explorer, the folder for that application, frequent places I open files from, and other suggestions like that. I feel like right now Open dialogs and the start menu are both pretty dumb. File Explorer itself is pretty smart, but weirdly that intelligence doesn't translate to Open dialogs. Or even if Windows could do what Chromebooks do, where it's like, hey, I noticed you are doing this a lot, want to enable a feature that makes this easier? It's like, yeah, thanks dude! They could do that instead of trying to push their in house ways of doing stuff when clearly I am using a different application that works just fine. Oh, and the last way Windows could utilize AI to be better is with search. I would love to be able to search "dog" on windows and all the dog pictures on my computer come up, or all my files that have the word "dog" in their contents and not just the title. I get that that is pretty ambitious but there are technically search tools that literally already do it, and windows search is already slow enough that it's not like performance would take a hit to execute such an algorithm. All of these possibilities being said, I doubt any of them is how Windows will incorporate AI. I think it's going to be focused on advertising, pushing their shit over whatever I want to use, and other useless features that they have been increasingly pushing as the operating systems go on
it would probably improvements to the os with a different name like android 13 and would not have any major ui changes
Like it was with Windows Vista and 7
Windows 10 is so much better than Windows 11
@@itsshafayat6378 yall prolly biased 💀Clearly, Windows 11 is BETTER even if not design-wise, it is if we consider the Security and the Speed. Now before either of you jump on and backfire my Speed point it's just cuz you upgraded to 11 on UNSUPPORTED Hardware... This is the reason many people have speed problems or prolly they have a low-budget pc to even run W-11 properly.
So, considering weaknesses too W-11 has made tasks a LITTLE bit harder as you can't get access to more options when you right-click the taskbar or a file, and the W-11 Start UI is worse than 10 but you wanna change it back to the original using third-party software (not recommended) Not cuz of "Virus" or "Spyware" but even the legit ones can drastically slow up your pc. So recollecting em up -
* Issues
---> Ease
---> Minor bugs (Switching to different interfaces in the Task Manager)
---> Design (Like the Start menu)
Still, with all this, Microsoft will definitely fix em up until the next 23H1 update rolls out! And with an end to this, W-12 will be EVEN MORE advanced than W-11 and W-10 especially if they are gonna add some AI-stuff features.
not visually
1st question for AI in Win12: How do I stop Windows from rebooting itself and trashing all my unsaved work?
I was listening while doing dishes and booping the "next video" button with my nose.
As far as I know, when Windows 7 was about to go out of support, you had 2 choices. Windows 8 and Vista (tell me if I'm wrong!), but now, you have Windows 10, and only one choice: Win 11.
What? Even after releasing windows 12, will Microsoft never change the nt version?
I seen this in Windows 11 where the nt version is 10 and tbh, few apps would end up recognising as windows 10 instead of windows 11...
XP and 7 were excellent, and the 10 is... not bad: it's stable, but the multi-language keyboard support really sucks... Hope that the 12 will improve this issue...
Windows 10 was the last version of Windows but... we are seeing W12😅
It more feels better to have 2 sperate CPU's for the future windows releases. since the other one is just for AI stuff. but the other one is just for regular usage like all times.
I wish windows would bring back the original windows logo with color windows.
i don't think AI would improve anything other than replacing the google search bar so you get an answer without clicking away 10 popups telling you to accept cookies and to turn off your adblocker.
Systems like large language models lack the ability to comprehend, they just give you a combination of words that matches the patterns of whatever source they where trained on.
The only place where AI is actually useful in it's current state, is graphics calculations and upscaling tech like DLSS.
What i imagine Microsoft will want to do is use AI to track user activity even more. AI is just the new buzzword companys throw araound to impress shareholders.
One missed reason: More data fishing
Great video, do more.
Also on MacOS and Linux.
Not sure how good a reception will be if it requires a Microsoft account to interact with the Windows Desktop AI. If they make interaction anonymous, that is probably most preferred. They should also do better job cleaning up residues of temp files which is notorious slowing down the desktop.
W11 should be the first yellow on the good/bad cycle, it should be in the middle because its good and bad, half people hate its new simplifcation, design, and features, while the other half loves the design, features, and how clean, smooth, and simple it is.
My big questions is why? Who needs it ? its like putting an extra wheel on a bicycle and saying you've improved it.