@@stevetheduck1425It's not that it "means nothing" (especially if you can back it up!) But if your boss can't afford to promote you or give you a raise (you can probably get a promotion, not a raise) then you have to look somewhere else.
When there's a problem on the ship, it never occurs to boimler to just press some buttons on a control panel to solve it. Probably due to the number of times he hits his head.
Rutherford turns down promotions, while Mariner does crazy stuff to get bumped back down. Boimler is a great nerd, and Tendi is the Mistress of the Winter Constellations. Those four alone are enough to be a bridge crew of their own!
So Mariner is like the Sergeant Major on Starship Troopers II who intentionally got demoted just so he could get the right to fight on the front lines?
@@perfectsplit5515 Recent revelation has shown that Mariner does it because her idol, Ensign Sit Jaxa, died at that rank serving on the Enterprise-D. Because of this, Mariner feels that she will never deserve to be more than an ensign because the person she looked up to never made it past that rank. It's also why she's extra protective of everyone, and is heavily bothered by the fact that anyone of them could die not from the risk of exploring unknown space, but from combat with hostile nations.
I really hope when this series concludes, it concludes with them becoming the bridge crew. Boiler gets his Captains chair, Mariner his number one, Rutherford chief of engineering and Rendi as chief medical officer. Be such a cool way to end the series, from lowly ensigns to thier own ship.
@@Spinikarthat would be the ideal ending, but that is going to be let’s say about 10+ seasons before they can do that. I mean for crying out loud our crew is not even in mid tier officer rank yet.
@@gg-eo6ezjudging from the look and the output being measured in cochrane, I'd assume it's some form of power distribution system using subspace manifolds.
I mean, if there's anything that Voyager taught us, it's that rank doesn't matter at all when it comes to friendship, considering how much the Ensigns are chummy with the senior officers
@@jhart6764 Well, in Lower Decks 2x08, the ensigns of the Cerritos did get access to a better replicator, however it wasnt implemented for all ships in the fleet.
Same. With Tendi being friends with T'Lyn, it's the perfect time for the writers to promote their relationship to the rank of boyfriend and girlfriend :3
I love how into their roles the different teams are and how supportive of each other they are. Dream work environment, even if the odds of you being blown out into space are high.
at some point they need to do some episodes paiding boimloir and tendi while also rutherford and mariner closest we got was when boimler unscorpionized tendi
@@pbdye1607 and that genuinely messed up the chain of command- those posts aren't really supposed to BE long term positions- you can pause your career at captain, or department head, but he was on a promotion track other people would likely also want to use.
@@HelloHuman1 for rutherford that's certainly the case, but not for Riker. This is a minor plothole, but Riker's decision to not leave the enterprise makes a significant difference. Second in command on the flagship of the fleet is a position where you'd be expected to serve a short tenure in order to GET the experience needed for command, particularly for any ambitious officers coming up through the ranks. At best, his refusal to leave caused a significant speedbump in the careers of the best and brighttest in star fleet, who'd wouldn't have the chance for a high profile posting, at worst it caused a necessary posting (replacing a dead or retiring captain on an in-service vessel) to be filled by someone without the requisite experience, or trained by a less competent captain than Picard. Because he was effectively just parked in a classroom doorway, blocking anyone else from seeing in.
Well Tendie, I hear officers visit each others quarters overnight all the time, if you know what I mean... You can listen to him mutter whenever you need it!
honestly I think its because they have never even thought about it and most likely wont till someone mistakes them for a couple implanting the idea into there heads.
@@OoileiI think it’s also due to circumstance. Rutherford looked to be super into her at first (around the time of Badgey). He appears to lose this after his implant gets ripped out (obviously because he forgets her). Tendi then seems to be into him (“don’t date Barnes”) but after the scare where Rutherford is almost taken over by his past self and there was a chance she’d lose him again, she seems content with being friends/enjoying the moments as they come. Which leads us to now where there’s hints of… something, but never something huge (excluding the recent episode where they pretended to be a couple).
Maybe they just prefer being friends? It would be nice to see more female-male friendships especially in sci-fi where this concept seems to be completely alien to most writers. I mean they would be cute together don't get me wrong but them just being friends is a possibility. We will just have to see what happens in the next season ig
@@existentialcrisis10 Mariner and Boimler seem to fit the "friends who happen to be different genders, but aren't dating" category more. Rutherford and Tendi definitely seem to have quite a bit of chemistry
@@Ooilei Perhaps one day the plot will demand that they *DO SOMETHING!!* They don't seem to be associated with the Warp Engines, The Transporters, Communications, Life Support.......
“Wait, I can just ask for stuff I deserve?”
I love science fiction.
same
Real talk: yes, you can ask, means nothing, though.
The player character in Star Trek Online: "Ho, boy! Wait 'till you hear how I got promoted!"
Union strong!
@@stevetheduck1425It's not that it "means nothing" (especially if you can back it up!)
But if your boss can't afford to promote you or give you a raise (you can probably get a promotion, not a raise) then you have to look somewhere else.
I was always wondering why Rutherford was never promoted. I meant the guy exudes it practically head of engineering energy.
He turned it down in the past to say with his friends.
@bthsr7113 I'd love to have a friend like that.
He also saved the entire California-class from being replaced by the automated Texas line.
He definitely exudes lieutenant junior grade energy
@@micheljavert5923 The line he invented...?
I love how boimler completely ignored the fact that you could polarize the glass.
It's the ensign mindset you "deal with what you get" i wouldn't be surprised if the room was set up the way it is to subtly teach critical thinking.
Or put up some curtains.
@@schwarzerritter5724neelix the void vibes 😅
He didn't read the manual.
When there's a problem on the ship, it never occurs to boimler to just press some buttons on a control panel to solve it. Probably due to the number of times he hits his head.
Anyone else think this lead to a merge of Rutherford's two personalities: the ambitions and hotheaded side and his goofy and cheery side?
Oooooo, spicy Rutherford.
I hope so!
He was starting to show a bit of his hotheaded pilot side here. Minus the misogyny, which is great.
Rutherford turns down promotions, while Mariner does crazy stuff to get bumped back down. Boimler is a great nerd, and Tendi is the Mistress of the Winter Constellations. Those four alone are enough to be a bridge crew of their own!
So Mariner is like the Sergeant Major on Starship Troopers II who intentionally got demoted just so he could get the right to fight on the front lines?
@@perfectsplit5515 Recent revelation has shown that Mariner does it because her idol, Ensign Sit Jaxa, died at that rank serving on the Enterprise-D. Because of this, Mariner feels that she will never deserve to be more than an ensign because the person she looked up to never made it past that rank. It's also why she's extra protective of everyone, and is heavily bothered by the fact that anyone of them could die not from the risk of exploring unknown space, but from combat with hostile nations.
I really hope when this series concludes, it concludes with them becoming the bridge crew. Boiler gets his Captains chair, Mariner his number one, Rutherford chief of engineering and Rendi as chief medical officer. Be such a cool way to end the series, from lowly ensigns to thier own ship.
@@Spinikarthat would be the ideal ending, but that is going to be let’s say about 10+ seasons before they can do that. I mean for crying out loud our crew is not even in mid tier officer rank yet.
@@Spinikar I think Mariner desirves to be captain too. She has the potential
1:18. "Dinkelberge."
I love that Tendy pulled rank to dismiss their ranks.
4:02
Rutherford!......And also Tendi!
That casual flick of the pip by Billups across the room is under appreciated. With a nice ping sound effect too!
I love that The Device finally got a name! Tucker tubes!
After Trip how did I just notice That now?
"I don't know what we do with these things but I love it"
@@gg-eo6ezjudging from the look and the output being measured in cochrane, I'd assume it's some form of power distribution system using subspace manifolds.
I mean, if there's anything that Voyager taught us, it's that rank doesn't matter at all when it comes to friendship, considering how much the Ensigns are chummy with the senior officers
WELL.. to be honest what instinctive is there to get promoted? Its not like they get a pay raze.
@@buttAttack The prestige.
@@buttAttack a step closer to getting your own ship
no holodeck waste removal duty
better quarters
@@convergentradiusaccess to more food options when using the replicator.
@@jhart6764 Well, in Lower Decks 2x08, the ensigns of the Cerritos did get access to a better replicator, however it wasnt implemented for all ships in the fleet.
I like how Rutherford has a sonic screwdriver.
It's a Dr Who reference, but you probably knew that.😊
3:11 She actually got a kick out of giving him an order.
3:20 yeah cause I was about to say… there is no WAY this guy has not earned a promotion yet after all he’s done.
Rutherford deserves the promotion as much as he deserved his own archenemy. 😂 4:00
And also Tendi!
Rutherford is so head over heels for Tendi, I hope they become official soon
Sorry, but he's married to the Jeffery's Tubes.
Same. With Tendi being friends with T'Lyn, it's the perfect time for the writers to promote their relationship to the rank of boyfriend and girlfriend :3
the newest episode.. accomplished the "official" part of this! technically.
@@piesuu2386 What's the bet Migleemo gets them officially registered?
@@stalhein62 It's on! I bet you three bars of gold-pressed latinum.
4:22 Rutherford's project is Wesley Crusher's tractor beam emitter from "The Naked Now."
I love how into their roles the different teams are and how supportive of each other they are. Dream work environment, even if the odds of you being blown out into space are high.
shame rutherford hasn't meet scotty those two would get on like a house on fire
And probably catch something on fire too testing wild theories that will somehow still work😂
at some point they need to do some episodes paiding boimloir and tendi while also rutherford and mariner
closest we got was when boimler unscorpionized tendi
That would be cool to see, like their dynamics mixed up
Livick is Lower Decks’ version of Dinkleberg
More like Newman from Seinfeld. The subplot about Boimler and the red light from the nacelles is very reminiscent of the Kenny Rogers episode too.
@@Jokie155 Seinfeld: Hello Newman….
Its hard to even think of a TV series (including other Star Trek) that Ive had more genuine fun watching than Lower Decks.
4:24 - nice try, Trek, but I know the Sonic Screwdriver sound when I hear it...
Wow you can just accept the promotion at your own time.
Star fleet is rather accomidating
Think of how long Riker *voluntarily* stayed a Commander.
@@pbdye1607 and that genuinely messed up the chain of command- those posts aren't really supposed to BE long term positions- you can pause your career at captain, or department head, but he was on a promotion track other people would likely also want to use.
I think a lot of it is just Billups being super-laid back as a boss.
@@reganator5000Other people did use it. Him staying back allowed the next most qualified person to get promoted.
@@HelloHuman1 for rutherford that's certainly the case, but not for Riker. This is a minor plothole, but Riker's decision to not leave the enterprise makes a significant difference. Second in command on the flagship of the fleet is a position where you'd be expected to serve a short tenure in order to GET the experience needed for command, particularly for any ambitious officers coming up through the ranks. At best, his refusal to leave caused a significant speedbump in the careers of the best and brighttest in star fleet, who'd wouldn't have the chance for a high profile posting, at worst it caused a necessary posting (replacing a dead or retiring captain on an in-service vessel) to be filled by someone without the requisite experience, or trained by a less competent captain than Picard. Because he was effectively just parked in a classroom doorway, blocking anyone else from seeing in.
Livik, Rutherford life long nemisis. Lol
It's strange that Livik has that Badgey smile... might be a coincidence.
@@julianmarco4185 *among us noises*
@@dragonrider1736 The Cerritos is a perfect setup for an Among us game. I just don't think they have the "freedom" to do it.
@@julianmarco4185 Oh crud, he does have that smile!
_"Dinkleberg."_
Well Tendie, I hear officers visit each others quarters overnight all the time, if you know what I mean...
You can listen to him mutter whenever you need it!
Kind of hard with Boimler around though 😕 It's okay, Rutherford can just go sleepover at Tendi's
I just got the Tucker tubes reference.
I gotta wonder if Boimler is the first person to set up a bedroom in the Jeffrey's tubes.
I've watched this scene a bunch, and just now noticed that Rutherford's tinkering tool makes the sonic screwdriver sound from Doctor Who.
Why does Livik look like Badgey
Love the Doctor Who Sonic Screwdriver sound fx.
She really complement hem
How are they not a couple yet??!!!!
Because they're too afraid if they date and break up they won't be able to be friends anymore
honestly I think its because they have never even thought about it and most likely wont till someone mistakes them for a couple implanting the idea into there heads.
@@OoileiI think it’s also due to circumstance. Rutherford looked to be super into her at first (around the time of Badgey). He appears to lose this after his implant gets ripped out (obviously because he forgets her). Tendi then seems to be into him (“don’t date Barnes”) but after the scare where Rutherford is almost taken over by his past self and there was a chance she’d lose him again, she seems content with being friends/enjoying the moments as they come.
Which leads us to now where there’s hints of… something, but never something huge (excluding the recent episode where they pretended to be a couple).
Maybe they just prefer being friends? It would be nice to see more female-male friendships especially in sci-fi where this concept seems to be completely alien to most writers. I mean they would be cute together don't get me wrong but them just being friends is a possibility. We will just have to see what happens in the next season ig
@@existentialcrisis10 Mariner and Boimler seem to fit the "friends who happen to be different genders, but aren't dating" category more. Rutherford and Tendi definitely seem to have quite a bit of chemistry
What do the Tucker/Billups tubes do exactly?
Emit a cool looking red light
@@Ooilei Perhaps one day the plot will demand that they *DO SOMETHING!!*
They don't seem to be associated with the Warp Engines, The Transporters, Communications, Life Support.......
@@jsl151850b Weapons circuit fuse box?
They… ugh…
They regulate the GNDN conduits! This is Engineering 101 people... ;) I love that they named them though... hilarious!
Whoever wrote this was definitely rewatching Seinfeld.
3:51
Anxiety in a nutshell
1:56 was that an Airplane 2 reference?
4:00 Liviks villain origin...
“Wernstrom!” LOL
Realistically I feel like Rutherford should be outranking everyone else at this point
I prefer the idea that stuff like detaching the hull is just something any lieutenant would be capable of doing
How could they have canceled this show!?
That hig was so warm and sweet. Can't they just get together already?
I can just ask for stuff I deserve?
I guess
Im bothered that there's no ladder in the final cabin
Getting promoted because you deserve it?
Most idealistic Trek moment in history.
Seems odd that 'Livik' kept on doing the same things that Rutherford kept on working on.
So Boimler sleeps in bed in uniform
...part of me wonders why they didn't loft that room
i think cyborgs are hot
LIVIC!!!
Dinkleberg….
Going for tiny incremental improvements to show that you are a good engineer doesn't make any sense.