Just another coincidence or is there a real connection?
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Up to 10 thousand of these towers were built. Could it be just a coincidence?
Or there are some hidden connections in pre-historic Old Europe.
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Broch in Scotland and Nuraghe in Sardinia:
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Outstanding video exceptional narration and script. A real eyeopener. thanks.
You are too kind. I wish the narration was proper, but I do suffer doing those, fighting my ineptitude.
Still, I'm happy with the script and edit and happier that you liked it.
Hey, that's my guy! Waking me up to a world of wonders! You brighten my day ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thank you!
So happy you liked.
Fascinating subject. Believe you're correct. The towers put me in mind of ancient ruins found in some African countries. Waterways pre-empt overland routes. Sea tides and rivers were our highways for countless millennia before the first cobble was laid. Trading & trafficking are very human endeavours. The whole western Atlantic seaboard might once have been one vast culture. A cattle culture.
Great video. Love the drone work.
Thank you.
Have to say, it's not mine, I just found some great sources for the drone work, then screened and edited it. But the overall results seems nice.
Thank you for this very interesting video.
Thank you!
Hope to see you around.
This is absolutely brilliant, it even goes so far as to suggest a ritual centered society that was essentially the antithesis of the later invaders, with the word for fairies being tied to the homes even further suggesting this deep link where their living spaces and their sacred communing spaces became one in the same, amazing work
Thank you so much. I believe you are right in your observation. The spread of towers, one per village, suggests a society that was not centralized nor militarized. Unfortunately, it looks like they couldn't resist the Celtic imperialistic drive.
The internal stairs seem to be quite a unique feature. As does the stone work. Very enigmatic. Thank you.
Thank you. Hope to see you around in more videos.
I like to think that a Nuraghic tribe when confronted with the arrival of the Celts/Italics decided to venture into new lands and ended up in Scotland. It's a Strech but...
@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall im really pleased to have had the channel recommended to me. The videos are great and I’m working my way through now. I don’t think your idea is crazy at. Check out the stone art in the baltics with the phalluses and some with horned heads. Cheers.
@@auld_boy Thank you. Happy that you liked. There is another youtube video that I loved, about the horned helmets I even used some footage on the other video about the Nurage/Broch.
I have about 30 videos published so far, will keep you entertained :)
There are also really strong similarities between the Sardinia's Domus de Janas and one found in Orkney Islands, Scotland: Dwarfie Stane. Puzzling and amazing in the same time, since both sites are supposed to be very old (neolithic age).
Thanks. Wasn't aware of Dwarfie Stane. It sure does look everything like a Janas.
Wikipedia even agrees, saying:
Quote - the Dwarfie Stane as representing "the imported idea of the rock-cut tomb" that was "tried once and found to be unsatisfactory".
Being "Imported" makes the Picts not an isolated people but an active part of the Old-European culture.
Great Video, I would say that there is the possibility that these were made so in order to use the full beam of the circular shape for acoustic properties. The towers I know with this feature are not round, but the stairway is also within the walls. The ancient City of Gor has one of these Towers.🙏
Thanks. Could you help me find the Gor tower? what I found online looked different.
such classy vids my man, love the music and ,,,, maybe the knowledge a ha ha ha!
thank you! You have excellent taste in music and I spend way too much time looking for proper filling song.
The sardinian nuraghi or the irish-scottish brochs are pre-celtic. They are also found in Oman, Egypt, Israel in El Ahwat (the biblical Aroset Goim in Galilee, the fortified citadel of the shardana general Sisera killed by Jael), Iraq, Rapa Nui, Great Zimbabwe in Southern Africa (the so-called Solomon's mines), Perù and North America. I believe that they were very ancient astronomical observatories linked to the cult of the Sun and the Moon, very often built on water sources. The Pelasgians were formidable navigators thanks to their great astronomical knowledge. Greetings ❤
I agree with you. I am not so certain about the extra-european links. But am pretty convinced that Old-Europe was one civilization.
Thanks
Single Tower family/clan based blood feud culture. Tower designs changed over time, but the clan based blood feuding remained. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. Most of these examples are blood feud traditions in Europe that required the wiping out the entire opposing clan, even if the feud lasted for hundreds of years.
Greece and Crete: Maniot tower culture + Gdikiomos
Albania: Albanian tower culture + Gjakmarrja
Sardinia: Sardinian Nuraghe + Disamistade?
Spain: Oinaz and Gamboa Blood Feuds + Tall Towers
Georgia: Svan clan tower culture + Clan Blood feuds
Scotland: Tower Houses/Brochs + Clan Blood feuds
The next part is Europe’s Carnival tradition in more rural traditional areas. This is really eye opening. All of these can be viewed on youtube. Links not added due to youtube comments with links usually deleted by youtube.
Ituren Carnaval tradition
Galician Entroido tradition
Portuguese Careto tradition
Sardinian Boes e Merdules tradition
Swiss Tschäggättä tradition
Hungarian Busójárás tradition
Bulgarian Kukeri tradition
Traditions change with the time and place, each with their own unique flavor, but at their core the examples I provided seem to have a really ancient common thread.
Amazing. This deserves more than just a comment on my nearly invisible youtube channel.
I was checking each line and impressed with the pattern.
And occurred me one extra, probably more famous than the ones you listed.
- "Vendetta" and the Italian medieval towers in Italy.
Great comment!
@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall Thank you for the kind words! I believe all knowledge should be free, so if any of this helps you in any way, please feel free to do so! I have little desire to create content at this time in my life, but it is important for me to share what I’ve observed.
@@DataBeingCollected I copied your list and pasted in my "hope I'm able to make something out of this" file
A single culture across Europe with shared language, buildings techniques and technologies, perhaps even ideologies? Perhaps there's something in that biblical story of the Tower of Babel.
Yes, most likely.
I think ideologies are much easier to carry than building techniques are.
I can explain my ideas and you'll understand them.
On the other hand, you can try and explain to me some technical know-how, but I will remain as clueless as ever.
Like, there are a lot of people going around proselytizing about religion with success, but it's much hard to explain how to make computer chips, or staircases embedded inside the walls.
I have a crazy idea why they build it: To keep the ice age megafauna out of their pantry.
that's something my mother would say to me. I even remember being called megafauna :)
Thanks for this video. I have wondered about the Scotland/ Sardinia connection for a couple of decades. Your explanation fit well with some biological phenomena that lead to isolated populations of the same species,then on to speciation. In this case it leads to cultural differentiation. Stone is often scavenged from disused buildings, so the remaining buildings may have resulted from the lack of scavenging?
Thanks.
The lack of buildings in South France / Italy / England that are as-old-as the Nuragic towers in Sardinia is not easy to explain.
I can't come up with a complete explanation for that. But my inclination is that there was a mixture of destruction by the Celts/Italics/Indo-Europeans, plus a lack of further developments also as a result of those invasions.
@ 5:40 you show the ruins of a round fort with many stairs inside. The stairs look a whole lot like the stairs in an Indian temple Chand Baori. Where the number of stairs are significant pointing to celestial knowledge.
I also noticed that.
But if staircases built inside the walls in hundreds of multi-storied tall dry-stone towers is called just a coincidence.
Then the steps to celestial knowledge are better not even to be considered :)
Same stairs as indian water cisterns as well that I've seen on videos
@@missourimongoose8858 yes. Quite similar and those stairs are not needed for climbing, not all of them at least.
Thank you for the video and the view of Sardinian as well as Scottish structures. There is no reason why these should not be linked by a common culture since they can be easily reached by sea.
What archaeologists have not examined are the signalling arrangements.
On the west coast of Scotland, I have discovered evidence for precise and covert signal communications that explain adjacent broch and fort building sequences and positions. Some of these findings are described in a 2010 article "Messages from the past: Iron Age signalling in Argyll". These findings imply that the purpose of the towers was to temporarily protect the inhabitants until reinforcements arrived. The objective of the attackers was to capture as many people as possible. The only date I have is that of a 22 km signal line, one end of which was dated to have been destroyed in 200 AD. Most people make the mistake of assuming communications were by signal from hilltop to hilltop. This could not be more wrong! The precision of the signal arrangements makes it possible, in complex topography, to predict the exact position of signal relay sites. This raises the intriguing possibility that such relay positions could provide dates for the linked structures. Sardinia definitely looks to be a place to visit! Thanks again.
Thank you. Interesting the signaling bit. I'm one of those people that would imagine hill-to-hill as being the only way to build visual communication (due to ignorance).
Could you elaborate or point out to info? That's something I'd like to understand better.
This signaling system is very interesting to me in regards to my own observation that the towers could be connected to clan based blood feuding common from the Caucasus mountains, the Balkans, Italy, Sicily, Sardinia, Spain, and into Scotland.
Being able to quickly rally your clan/tribe/extended family traditions to the exact location where the threat is seems to have quite a bit of synergy with what you describe.
Also comes to mind is the slightly humorous story behind the Wainhouse Tower Folly. Built for the sole purpose that Wainhouse’s neighbor, Sir Edwards regularly boasted that he had the most private estate in all of Halifax because no one was able to see into his land due to the local geography. Wainhouse was tired of it, so he built the ridiculously tall Wainhouse tower folly with viewing platforms so that anyone could look into Edward’s land.
Hill top to Hill top signals are great, but are limited by the geography just like the Wainhouse tower example. Tower to tower signaling (especially if these defensive structures already exist due to clan based feuding) would provide that additional height even to the highest hill in the area, but more importantly give you an “artificial hill” in a signal system where you would have a blind spot. (Probably assigned to a family member in the clan who was younger or more expendable due to the less defensible location)
The towers would allow for more reliable and clear information transfer across the area in question, bringing the reinforcements faster when the neighboring clan came seeking their blood money, or whatever it is that made them rally in the first place.
@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall The kind of signalling links I have found are precise to the order of plus or minus a centimetre or two per kilometre, meaning that sight lines would have been kept clear at the constriction points (usually ridges). Hilltop signal relay positions would be easy to spot for attackers and their signals would also be broadcast in nature, available to many observers. In addition, hilltops require a number of defenders which is not efficient for relay positions when considering relatively small communities. This is probably the common feature of Sardinia with west Scotland - poor land and therefore a low density population. Local to me (in Scotland) the cloud base can be as low as 150 metres elevation and the sea mists as high as 50 metres, so those two boundaries dictate the relay position elevations. Sardinia conditions will be different but the investigative approach would be to assume communication between adjacent nuraghe and find two that are not intervisible and if they were in communication there will be an intermediate relay(s). Roman army signalling of this period was by semaphore which is limited to about 1.5 km. Another example is heliograph which I am told can operate up to 70 km. My article is available online. I have a science background and am not an archaeologist.
@@peterlamont1533 that was a great explanation. Thank you!!
I'm mind blown with the idea that communication is not best hill to hill. Had never occurred to me and it now makes so much sense.
These towers favor quick refuge. Smash and grab raiders don't have time to conduct a siege. They need quick and easy victims, not ones that could possibly raise a concerted opposition against a group of bandits given a few days. And, to me the spread of these towers once being all over the continent does not make sense to me, given the lack of evidence for this. There are thousand s in Sardinia and N. Scotland, but not even a stump of one to be found elsewhere? Perhaps any remains have not been found yet. No evidence- then it's an assumption; a calculated guess. I have some interest in the subject and enjoyed the video
I also can't explain the absence of towers in mainland Europe. But the fact is that there aren't buildings, circular or in any other nor any shape.
The Nuraghe are older than anything to be found in mainland Italy or the south of France (internal staircase or not). And that is not easy to understand.
Ritengo che i nuraghi sardi siano più antichi. Riutilizzati probabilmente in epoche più vicine a noi...ingranditi, ristrutturati. Intorno sono nate intere città, come a Barumini. Ma si nota facilmente come le costruzioni si differenziano anche nella scelta delle dimensioni delle pietre.
Yes, the Nuraghi are Bronze Age, >10 century BC
and the Broch in Scotland are Iron Age,
@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall È difficile rispondere a questo, sia nel caso della Sardegna che in quello della Scozia o altri casi. In ogni caso è comune in tutto il mondo un picco di capacità costruttive con la pietra, poi gradualmente persa. In Sardegna esistono diversi tipi di Nuraghi, costruiti con tecniche differenti. È comune pensare che questo sia dovuto a diverse etnie provenienti da luoghi diversi e con tradizioni diverse. E che per "selezione naturale" i più resistenti e meglio costruiti, sono anche quelli in maggior numero. Ciò che però non si vuole ammettere è che sia a dir poco inverosimile che etnie diverse facciano tutte confluire le loro diverse traduzioni in un unica forma e tipologia di costruzione: il nuraghe. Nuraghi che tra l'altro non sono presenti in Corsica o in Italia, Spagna, Francia...tutti luoghi geograficamente vicini e sicuramente visitati più di una volta.
Esisteva una popolazione in Sardegna, che abitava l'isola e navigava in tutto il mediterraneo. Erano gli Shardana e se ne trova menzione in tantissimi documenti antichi. Addirittura il faraone Ramses II ne parla come di guerrieri imbattibili. Tanto che circa 200 di loro divennero la sua guardia personale.
@@simoneorru7171 I agree. There was a commercial network from the mediterranean to the baltic, so I tend to the idea that there was a single origin for the Nuraghe and the Scottish Brochs, but cannot go beyond that.
@@simoneorru7171 Yes. But then there is Scotland with the Brochs that are so similar. Could be a coincidence, but I believe not.
The first tower you show that is in ruin and is only a foundation reminds me very much of the circular foundation on top of sacsayhuaman.
mmm, not sure, the interior staircase is quite distinctive, and I don't remember seeing it elsewhere.
@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall look on satellite image of sacsayhuaman. Not the walls. But the structure on top. There is only a foundation now. But it looks like that tower. Even looks like it could have had interior stairs also.
@@JohnnyRedpilled just checked, did saw some exterior circles that could hold it. Like everything in Peru way more sophisticated.
" ...why can't we find similar prehistoric circular towers anywhere between Scotland and Sardinia..." Perhaps they are below sea level. The North Sea is thought to be a low lying area ( now called 'Doggerland') So, perhaps there are more of these towers, but not above sea level now ?
Yes. I'd say some are. But these these towers tend to be found on top of hills or other high places, some would have been also in the mainland.
The portuguese church, in Janas, sits on top of a circular wall and that is for me the most likely scenario:
On one and the Celts destroyed whatever they found, whilst on the other, the tower tradition only lived in the more remote places that the Celts wouldn't reach.
That is my bet. could be wrong as always.
Maybe they only survived in the less populated areas because the rest were canibalised for the stones ie most of Hadrian wall is in English houses now.
The towers in my personal opinion were most likely defensive structures, I suspect used for clan based blood feuding. Outside of the family tower house, you would have had more structures used for day to day living. You can see this with some of the more complex Nuraghe, which really was more like a castle, a central tower, and a complex of smaller towers surrounding the central tower. I also think the people of Europe in the more rural forgotten parts of Europe not in daily contact with the Romanized cities probably stuck with this style of living well after the Roman era and into the early feudal era (with the “tower” of the more influential local clan leaders in the heavily trafficked area becoming more complex over time, turning into Castles, then palaces as the chief became a knight, then a noble, etc.)
The type of architecture used, corbel dry-stone masonry, is what needs to be looked at, especially for more mundane structures that are more common than the towers. These traditions are very ancient, and quite widespread by rural peoples of Europe even today who have not given up these traditions to maintain them. I think the cultures that specifically practice cattle and sheep transhumance customs are the only living link to this past. The more “civilized” urban parts of Europe advanced with the times.
See the following: (Also compare the similarity in the names for this structure)
Greek and Crete Mitato
Apulian Trullo
North Italian Crotto
Croatian/Istrian Kažun
Irish Clochán
Maltese Girna
Balkan Bunje/Bunja
French Borie
Scottish Cleit on the Island of “Boreray”
Also the Castro Culture is worth looking at along the Atlantic Portuguese coast. Noteworthy town is the town called Apulia. This name was given to the area by the Romans when they arrived. According to local Portuguese sources, it was given the name Apulia because the huts in the area reminded the Romans of the dry stone huts (Trullo) in Apulia Italy.
@@nigelliam153 that for sure. The nuraghic buildings are older than anything to be found in mainland Italy.
Likewise the tallayot in Menorca are older than whatever is in Catallonia. Or tiny Malta having the biggest and oldest temples of all.
The only explanation for this is survival bias. Islands were protected, thus it's where we can now see the buildings that were lost to time in the mainland.
@@DataBeingCollected yes yes and yes.
However the huts suffer from the academic prejudice similar to the dolmens. Whereas they are said to be independently developed. Which is BS I think. Academics can prove connections with an easily copied pottery shed, but not with polygonal masonry.
Anyways. The Broch and the Nuraghe have one joker card, the internal staircase. That's so unique, and distinctive, and complex. That I can't see how it's overlooked.
Ireland has loads of towers Belfast ireland
Mmmm, I saw some online and even included one in the video. But none with staircases inside the walls. Did I miss anything?
@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall i will check, many have been knocked down from i was a child, 52 now , love ur work
@@waggieoreilly5714 good hunt!
Mr chieftain the mamoth hit the second tower
:) second counting from the left or the right?
Any thoughts on the Ammonite Watchtower in Amman Jordan? Rujm al-Malfouf. I was trying to see if I could find any pictures or videos to see if there was an internal staircase like in your video, but there is not a lot on this tower right now. It is pretty old. Might have to get out to Amman to see it better unless we have someone local to the area check it out.
Was in Amman two years ago and, well hadn't heard of anything like it. So, missed it.
There is a lack of everything online about the Towers, but as you mentioned, they do seem to be similar in concept/usage, with some spread of round towers in villages, but without the building technique traces, did not look like dry-stone, nor being several stories tall, and no sign of stairs. All this as far I got to see, which is not much.
My feeling in this case goes to them being a coincidence.
Thanks for the info!
@@One-eyedgiantbuildingwall
So I mostly agree with you that it should be treated as coincidence for now.
Just a bit more data for more context. The word Rujm is the Semetic word for cairn, and specifically refers back to the concept of “piled or heaped stone.” The modern word is an Arabic word, but with deeper syriac connections related to the word “stone” and “stoning”, but also “to expel, repudiate, banish, oust, exile, drive away”. Either way, I think the etymological clues show that the Syriac rəḡam and Aramaic Ragam suggest a replacement of an older culture in the region.
This sounds a lot like both the biblical story about the conquest of the region against the Canaanites, and also the Celtic migration myths like Mil Espaine and the Milesians.
When you look at other “Rujm” sites, like Rujm el-hiri, it is clear that there was a culture in the area that was using a lot of dry stone architecture, and el-hiri coincidentally seems a lot like a Nuraghe castle in a lot of ways. (Case of Sea People from Europe settling in the region, such as Pelasgian?)
Like you said, it should be treated as coincidence without additional evidence. There is a Wikipedia page that compiles all of these “Rujm” sites, and there are quite a few, and it appears that in almost each case it is the Arabs re-naming these much older “cairn” type sites.
@@DataBeingCollected for prudence one has to admit that most of these dry stone constructions are purely coincidence.
However my gut feeling tells me all that was the workings of one single culture or interlinked cultures, spreading from Scotland to Dubai: ua-cam.com/video/ed5Vx7SrfPA/v-deo.html
Funny you called it twin towers and it's two ruins. Americans will lose their shit
don't tell them about the plane.
Thats pretty tasteless and Im not even American.