That's an important question, its a shame people are so busy demonstrating their own stupidity to focus on an actual answer. Was it an inability to operate the engine, focusing on permanent water supply instead of using tank water to make the initial attack, some other mechanical issue?
@@RLTtizME says the guy that's made a point to hurl an insult at better than half the commenters. I don't believe the YT comment section is the appropriate venue for it but in any case people are going to ask questions and in any operation there is value in reflecting on what did and didn't work. To show the level of disrespect at people asking reasonable questions is to ignore reality and create animosity.
First engine in holy cow charge the dam line, sorry to criticize but man this was making me crazy, I know it’s crazy and excitable but that first line should have water as soon as it comes off.
Oh god another one of these I can hardly stomach.. blazing sirens, stretching 1 and 3/4 for a fully involved, taking an eternity to charge the line, finishing a tank of air in the front yard.. the Jersey shore debacles ensue.
I don't think this will change unless/until building owners and insurance companies start addressing these problems in a court of law and start winning significant financial judgments. I'm not a fan of attorneys, but they do have a proper place in the overall scheme of things.
@@Eddiecurrent2000 you've obviously never have been in the fire service. Hate to tell u this, but FDs anywhere ain't doing 30 seconds or less lmao. 2 min and 20 sec is VERY reasonable
@@michaelpatanellalol your are the problem. With me you have 30 seconds regardless of you being ready or not. Defending 3 minutes?!? Stay home and save a life
I questioned the logic with that as well… glad I’m not the only one. It seems to me this department needs a bit of work in the initial attack phase imho
These are extremely painful to watch!! Simply put BIG FIRE BIG WATER!!! The incompetence here is unfathomable. I could say a whole lot more but everyone else is doing a great job.
@davidbott9401 I didn't watch the whole thing. The first 3 minutes did it for me. As a former firefighter both paid and volunteer it pains me to see this. It gives those of us who bust our butts on a fire scene a bad image.
@@bobby_D Well, yeah, that house was gone. But I think maybe the car burned and I wonder if the neighboring house took more damage in those last minutes.
Today's class is : when the GPMS =BTMS the fire goes out. Why not use ur deck gun on the AB corner to darken down the main body of fire and treat? Use ur booster tank to punch that fire in the face! The B exposure is the priority now. Several cars with fuel tanks will add to the already heavy fire load. First hand line must be ur 2.5! No one is going in until the main body of fire is knocked down. All ur personally walking around could assist with a supply line too.. Two 1.3/4 handlines on exposure buildings., then once cooled advance on fire building. Remember fire goes out when the GPMS =BTMS. stay positive.
No. How about competently stretching and charginga 1 3/4 in a timely manner and doing your job? A2.5 on a 1 story ranch is a joke. The bulk of this fire on arrival was siding. Stop making excuses for mediocre hobbyists
Wow. I feel bad for the people of Brick New Jersey. Over two minutes, four guys standing around in the front yard looking around, waiting for someone else to do a job. Don’t they have deck guns in brick New Jersey? This is absolutely pathetic. This entire department should just be shut down. ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC You guys need to do a way better job! Way better
I noticed them getting the roof laddered with a hand ladder, one question, WHY???? you are not going to send anyone on the roof to vent. Sort of a waste of time and effort.
@@RLTtizME What is hard to understand? The fireman is standing there holding a flaccid hose. There is no water coming out of the hose. There is NO WATER coming out of the hose. Thus, hose-in-hand. NO WATER. Hope that helps.
Two points; Big fire = Big water. They need a 2 1/2" precon and use it. Second; It should never take that long to get your people water unless their is a mechanical problem. The chauffeur's first job on scene is to get the pump "Pumping" then worry about the rest. I had to stop at 3 minutes bc it was to painful to watch.
I love when commenters use words and phrases to try and come off as knowledgeable... But only mange to prove that they have no clue what they are rambling about
That car sat there when they had every opportunity to cool it down and save it. Even if the other car didn't burst into flames, I am sure lots of it was melted and destroyed@@davidbott9401
I was thinking the same thing. And the way that thing is burning it looks like an accelerant was used. Looking at the house on Google Maps it appears to be a well maintained property as opposed to a rundown, dry-wooded old dump that would generally go like a bonfire.
These are our neighbors. I can confirm the fire started inside and not outside because I called 911 and saw the fire inside before it came out of the windows.
@@denisek292 They luckily got out of the house before I called 911. It was them yelling outside that caught my attention that made me look out of my window to see the house ablaze. The fire fighters are the true heroes here.
They absolutely positively refuse to lay in even though they have hydrants and 6in. hose. Never use the deck gun though the pumpers are equipped. It's difficult to understand.
personally i do believe you were either smoking weed or smoking crack or some shit because you either had to be high as hell or drunker than hell because of the fact i've been in the fire service and there's ABSOLUTELY NO WAY IN LIVING HELL THAT THEIR GOING TO USE HAND LINES FEEDING FROM THE PUMPER'S TANK ONLY ON A STRUCTURE FIRE OF THAT SIZE FURTHER MORE YOU NEED YOU'RE DAMN EYE'S CHECKED BY A DAMN DR. ESPEICALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT RIGHT AROUND THE 8 MINUTE MARK I SEEN THEM LAYING A SUPPLY LINE FOR THE HYDRANT SO NEXT TIME GET AND HAVE YOU'RE SHIT STRAIGHT BEFORE RUNNING THAT MOUTH OF YOURS AND BASHING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHEN YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TO BEGIN WITH GO TO FIRE SCHOOL AND LEARN THEN SAY SOMETHING THAT YOU DAMN WELL KNOW FOR SURE
So sorry for the loss of this family's home but thank heavens everyone is safe and accounted for. Seems like the name "Burnt Tavern Rd" is a bad omen. Great video coverage.
Since you are being reasonable (unlike most YT commenters) I'll explain. First, given the situation it really didn't take an unreasonable amount of time, especially considering these are volunteers. Next, there was no rescue profile (per PD and visual indicators) as this was a heavily involved house, so trying to do a quick-attack with tank water on such a fuel load is going to be relatively pointless. They instead chose to do a reverse-lay to the hydrant with an attack line and drop a LDH supply line as well, this takes time and means the Engine cannot pump until it is parked. Doing so means they can start to work the fire while tapping the hydrant to feed the Truck and next in Engine, which will now have better access due to the first Engine moving to the hydrant. A reverse-lay will add a bit of time to first water (meaningless as it was already non-survivable and a loss) but it will allow for a better overall fight in that it provides access to more volume faster. Look at it this way... If the first in had went for a quick attack they would have emptied their tank before making significant progress on such an advanced fire load, then have to wait to either hand-jack a supply line or have another Engine arrive and then lay in. This was a perfectly reasonable job, especially considering these are volunteers.
@@virgilhilts3924No it wasn't. If establishing a water supply was so important, there were two guys there watching the fire who could have helped. They obviously didn't consider it important.
Maybe I’m wrong but firefighters should be accountable as to how long it takes them to get to a fire and ESPECIALLY how long it takes them to get water onto the fire. They are used to fires so it’s no big deal for them, meanwhile somebody’s whole life’s belongings is going up in smoke.
@@mgratk good answer. How long did it take you to think of that. I don’t need to volunteer, I pay my taxes in Naples, Florida and our fire department is on the ball and probably the best in the nation.
@@Naplesfrank154 Well NJ is a sh*thole run by democrats, and you are right it is a most excellent answer. Also the volunteers don't need to volunteer either. They choose to help.
Never seen so many standing round LOOKING ladder lying down trip hazard one ladder getting heat tested Car going up in flames LOOKS like just one hose for all--- looks like retraining for the top brass they give the orders ---TRAINING Boys at the bottom work their ass of One thing i have NOTICED that CHEIF what ever you call them in the USA are 90% over weight The boys at the bottom[ FIRE FIGHTERS ]cop all the flack with out them you have no TEAM
Tell me who would leave a ladder up to heat up like that every one looking on Only in the USA go watch fire fighters from other countrys then you will see ACTION
I am watching from Elmira NY we have big structure fires like that up here but Elmira fire department gets them under control quickly with help from the West Elmira volunteer fire department
Why does it take so long to turn on the engine tank pressure to the hose? They could have at least saved the car in front. The structure was basically a total loss before they arrived IMHO. I've seen many FF videos and long delays in charging the hoses seems to be a common issue. Some departments do it in less than a minute, others seem to take forever. Why? Three minutes into the video before there is water on the fire. Also why not deploy the deck gun for a quick 20 second blast? If they don't have a deck gun, why not? Seems like a great tool for certain situations. My intent is not to be disrespectful of firefighters, I respect and appreciate them. But all of us in life can learn from critique, reflection and self improvement. I think after each fire call, departments should (if not doing this), have a short meeting to discuss what went well and what can be improved.
First, given the situation it really didn't take an unreasonable amount of time, especially considering these are volunteers. Next, there was no rescue profile (per PD and visual indicators) as this was a heavily involved house, so trying to do a quick-attack with tank water on such a fuel load is going to be relatively pointless. They instead chose to do a reverse-lay to the hydrant with an attack line and drop a LDH supply line as well, this takes time and means the Engine cannot pump until it is parked. Doing so means they can start to work the fire while tapping the hydrant to feed the Truck and next in Engine, which will now have better access due to the first Engine moving to the hydrant. A reverse-lay will add a bit of time to first water (meaningless as it was already non-survivable and a loss) but it will allow for a better overall fight in that it provides access to more volume faster. Look at it this way... If the first in had went for a quick attack they would have emptied their tank before making significant progress on such an advanced fire load, then have to wait to either hand-jack a supply line or have another Engine arrive and then lay in. That applies to using a Deck Gun as well, in fact DG's are less effective in that they cannot be maneuvered the way hand-lines can, thus they are less effective for most situations. People who shout "Deck Gun!" are people who have never used one, but they think it makes them sound cool because they heard someone on YouBoob say it. This was a perfectly reasonable job, especially considering these are volunteers.
Oooffff so many people complaining and bitching, but aren’t the ones dedicating and risking their lives to fight fire. Please 🥴🥴🥴🥴 they did a phenomenal job as always.
Great job great team work and great sweet catches as usual still going strong they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's stop and honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks stay safe and warm out there very impressed let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right wonder what the couse is that started the fire ?!!!! Joe
The fire depts at the jersey shore need more professional Training, or just make one big paid department , NJ has the highest taxes on the planet, they can afford it.
Not all but some definitely. Brick has three fire districts. Two are relatively competent. This is the same company who had a firefighter catch fire a few videos back and no charged line.
@@thomasbolcar8019 I believe that was because of a leaking fuel cap on a saw. Hard to say if that was because someone failed to tighten it properly, or it was cracked. That's a pretty rare occurrence.
My neighbor told me a story as a volunteer firefighter. House burned up child in attic couldn't get to her because ladder truck out for repairs or this poorer town didn't have the revenue to immediately repair. The wealthier township that surrounded didn't respond in time to save the girl. Tragedy. We need county wide FD and as far as I am concerned county police and schools like Virginia. Volunteer firefighters will still have a role though. To much government
Ahhhh water,more pressure, another line, 2 1/2 anything. Why is this town always on fire? Why in alot of these videos does the fire get worse when the fire department show up?
yet again a 3 whole minuites after arrival before the first drop of water is put on that fire why are they so slow surely water in the engine could be used whilst connecting the hoses up to the hydrent
@@virgilhilts3924 1. what are you even blabbering about? 2. Not only am I career, I work in a real city, as an officer, for over 13 years.. I strongly support fire unions and suggest you just quit while you’re ahead.
The first minute of this hurt to watch… it doesn’t matter that it’s already a loss, our job is to get there and out it out as fast and safe as possible, especially when you have an exposure right there on the b side…. Where is the fucking water? 1 3/4?! Sheesh
A little hustle with the h2o, damn. This is another perfect reason why I have 2x 250gallon water storage containers and a mk3 pump with hoses. I'm not gonna risk a slow response.
Glad that everyone was able to get out in time, and that there were no injuries to anyone related to this incident. Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
Great video and good job firefighters! Thank goodness no one was injured. Y’all catch a lot of heat, literally and figuratively, and much of it is unwarranted. The wood house was fully engulfed, plus it kept flaring-up. Ignore the cruel comments: Only y’all are there, know the area and conditions you face. One question: Were y’all able to save the Challenger? Special place in my heart for muscle cars….Mustang owner here, too. Y’all keep safe out-there.
That makes sense as I was listening to the firefighter a day or two after and he was upset. It was a walk up attic Victorian she was at the window and the house was ablaze. He quit
Deck gun would have been good to start. Woukdbt you want that first 1 3/4 line to the left of the driveway to protect the exposures over there? I mean the house is already a total loss and they can prevent loss of the vehicles and the next doir structure.
Oh yes why I do… look at my many pre arrival videos here on UA-cam:) maybe you’ll understand and see that I was there before them. If you’re seeing them drive into the scene while I’m filming that means I was there before them.. glad you understand what it means!
Is it just me, or are these guys really incompetent rank amateurs? An extraordinary example of lots of hurry up and no effective action. Glad I don't live in that area.
@@RLTtizME I suspect I am an incompetent rank amateur when it comes to fighting structure fires, but I don't get all dressed up and run around pretending to be competent like these guys.
I’ll say it… thanks to the Volunteer firemen who leave their warm beds to come to the distress of a complete stranger only to be criticized by morons watching the video of your efforts and bashing what you do.
As it was fully involved and have a tower ladder as first due truck company why deploy it during overhaul and not during fire attack? Now notice i didn't say initial attack but as soon as a positive water supply was established why not use it? I vas a vol for 2 years & everyone lived like within a mile or 2 from the fire house so our response time from time of dispatch to first unit responding was 5 min (for us that was good, but that was back in 2000 things have changed since i left)
BIG FIRE BIG WATER, use the BIG gun on top of the Eng, that turret would have knock 90% of that red stuff down, and not a 1.75 ether, you need 2.5 for that kind of fire.. Oh, and yes tank to pump. 33+ in the fire service and I still don't know why some Dept. don't even think about the deck gun, it just boggles my mind, if there was ever a time to use it, it was on this one!
you can hear the one guy at the 2 minute mark yelling wheres the water, 1st line charged at 2:33 i mean once he had water he did a bang up job of getting a knock down on the front, and in reference to the hand ladders one of the 23's LT told Bobby start throwing ladders, start working no other direction lol, I mean the fire was self venting pretty well at that point and guranteed that roof was soft so pointless to work the roof safely, i mean for this department i have seen much worse in the past, they had a good initial knockdown on the exterior in 7 minutes, so are they actually having the first or second due engine actually lay a supply from the hydrant besides hand jacking one after the fact?
Big fire needs big water. Not people standing around with no hose in hand. If you you can't simply put water on the red & orange thing stay home work at burgér king Do your job!!!!!!
You need ladders on this house for the... Conditions not compatible with life... To vent the fire that has already vented.... To burn up a perfectly good ladder. Tank to pump Frank, goes without saying
Brick Township sucks ass. They are horribly trained and can't perform BASIC firefighting tasks. It takes them WELL over 2 1/2 minutes to get water on the fire, you should be able to do that in less than a minute.
@@ffjsb So says the 🤡 who claims decades of firefighting experience yet doesn't know the difference between a *roof hook* and *drywall hook* Or that GPM's are a measurement of volume 😆😅😂🤣
@@virgilhilts3924 yes I have friends that are members down the shore Brick Township Toms River and Point Pleasant Beach all served as officers or chiefs of departments
Every time a police officer or even the lay public, for that matter, sees flames, it’s always “fully involved “. You could have a room & contents fire with no extension and it’s “Fully involved “. However in this case, the initial update was correct. I would call that fully involved. 🔥
@@ffjsb after reading all your comments to everyone since you seem to be the big shot fire fighter who seems to know everything about this department and what needs to be done why don't you go do something about it. Go train them and pay them instead of being so nasty about volunteers who risk their lives to at least help a town that doesn't have paid fire fighters. As I said since you seem to know it all and can be so nasty and anger about it go do something and fix it!
@@pamhofmeister2531 It's not my job to fix their problem. They've got a bunch of Chiefs, that's THEIR JOB!! FYI I'm on a VFD as well, (not to mention 30+ years full time) and I (and others) can say for a FACT that these guys are poorly trained. It's up to the politicians and citizens to demand and pay for a full time fire dept. They clearly have the tax base to do that. I notice you can't disprove anything I've said, all you can do is whine about it.
Not 100% true. I’ve seen some paid departments that are horrible and some volunteer fire companies that are superior. It’s all about trading and running qualified competent members.
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Tank to pump Frank!! Tank to pump!!
Lol. Literally just saw that yesterday.
Stop talking dirty.
That's funny as f..k
@@stuby2014 As what?
Why does it take so long to charge the line and get water on the fire?
Because they suck
@@willlock3644 You are a jerk.
Cause they suck
That's an important question, its a shame people are so busy demonstrating their own stupidity to focus on an actual answer. Was it an inability to operate the engine, focusing on permanent water supply instead of using tank water to make the initial attack, some other mechanical issue?
@@RLTtizME says the guy that's made a point to hurl an insult at better than half the commenters. I don't believe the YT comment section is the appropriate venue for it but in any case people are going to ask questions and in any operation there is value in reflecting on what did and didn't work. To show the level of disrespect at people asking reasonable questions is to ignore reality and create animosity.
First engine in holy cow charge the dam line, sorry to criticize but man this was making me crazy, I know it’s crazy and excitable but that first line should have water as soon as it comes off.
DECK GUN !
@@mandyomally4896 at least something
Oh god another one of these I can hardly stomach.. blazing sirens, stretching 1 and 3/4 for a fully involved, taking an eternity to charge the line, finishing a tank of air in the front yard.. the Jersey shore debacles ensue.
I don't think this will change unless/until building owners and insurance companies start addressing these problems in a court of law and start winning significant financial judgments. I'm not a fan of attorneys, but they do have a proper place in the overall scheme of things.
Go write a book then.
@@evanstauffer4470
🤣🤣🤣🤣
A court...?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Who are you going to sue and what is the legal basis...?
Great and accurate post. WHERE IS THE WATER??
@@leightongalleries6057 You guys love to have the best looking debris as possible. What the hell difference does it make in this instance?
Unbelievable how long it took to get water flowing out of the hoses.
2min 31 seconds… not bad. If it took 10 minutes, the way that was burning when they arrived it didn’t make a difference.
it took under 3 minutes genius
@@michaelpatanella And that's acceptable? Jesus.
@@Eddiecurrent2000 you've obviously never have been in the fire service. Hate to tell u this, but FDs anywhere ain't doing 30 seconds or less lmao. 2 min and 20 sec is VERY reasonable
@@michaelpatanellalol your are the problem. With me you have 30 seconds regardless of you being ready or not. Defending 3 minutes?!? Stay home and save a life
Websters definition of a Deck Gun. The most underused appliance in the fire service. Big fire, big water.
Why would you ladder that?
Who would consider putting anyone on that roof? The fire is as self ventilated as it gets.
I questioned the logic with that as well… glad I’m not the only one. It seems to me this department needs a bit of work in the initial attack phase imho
These are extremely painful to watch!! Simply put BIG FIRE BIG WATER!!! The incompetence here is unfathomable. I could say a whole lot more but everyone else is doing a great job.
Then why do you waste your time watching? Just so you can spew hatred?
@davidbott9401 I didn't watch the whole thing. The first 3 minutes did it for me. As a former firefighter both paid and volunteer it pains me to see this. It gives those of us who bust our butts on a fire scene a bad image.
@gregsatterly9412 then hopefully they get a copy of this video, watch it, and learn what could have been done better
What would’ve changed if they got massive amounts of water on THAT fire, say 3 minutes faster?? What changes? That thing was literally engulfed!!
@@bobby_D Well, yeah, that house was gone. But I think maybe the car burned and I wonder if the neighboring house took more damage in those last minutes.
Today's class is : when the GPMS =BTMS the fire goes out.
Why not use ur deck gun on the AB corner to darken down the main body of fire and treat? Use ur booster tank to punch that fire in the face! The B exposure is the priority now. Several cars with fuel tanks will add to the already heavy fire load.
First hand line must be ur 2.5! No one is going in until the main body of fire is knocked down.
All ur personally walking around could assist with a supply line too..
Two 1.3/4 handlines on exposure buildings., then once cooled advance on fire building.
Remember fire goes out when the GPMS =BTMS.
stay positive.
No. How about competently stretching and charginga 1 3/4 in a timely manner and doing your job? A2.5 on a 1 story ranch is a joke. The bulk of this fire on arrival was siding. Stop making excuses for mediocre hobbyists
Wow.
I feel bad for the people of Brick New Jersey.
Over two minutes, four guys standing around in the front yard looking around, waiting for someone else to do a job.
Don’t they have deck guns in brick New Jersey?
This is absolutely pathetic. This entire department should just be shut down.
ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC
You guys need to do a way better job! Way better
I feel bad for the entire Jersey shore area. Lotta money down there and you get these jokers showing up
I noticed them getting the roof laddered with a hand ladder, one question, WHY???? you are not going to send anyone on the roof to vent. Sort of a waste of time and effort.
2 minutes to place one handline....
And?
And your point is if you're not a first responder you don't know I said what i said
@@RLTtizME its slow, here in Brazil, we place 2 hand lines in 30 seconds. But they did a good job
@@AstroVacuo I bet you have the best looking debris ever.
@@RLTtizME what do you mean? (English is not my native lang)
Again, standing there hose-in-hand. NO WATER.
How so? Why water in all caps? Hose in hand...what exactly do you mean?
@@RLTtizME What is hard to understand? The fireman is standing there holding a flaccid hose. There is no water coming out of the hose. There is NO WATER coming out of the hose. Thus, hose-in-hand. NO WATER. Hope that helps.
@@leightongalleries6057 Never mind the troll...
@@leightongalleries6057 Sounds like you after a night of drinking beer, a hot date and an unfortunate potty accident in your pickle green Saturn.
Two points; Big fire = Big water. They need a 2 1/2" precon and use it. Second; It should never take that long to get your people water unless their is a mechanical problem. The chauffeur's first job on scene is to get the pump "Pumping" then worry about the rest.
I had to stop at 3 minutes bc it was to painful to watch.
I love when commenters use words and phrases to try and come off as knowledgeable...
But only mange to prove that they have no clue what they are rambling about
Excellent footage. Its a shame that the family lost their home in the fire. Have a great day my friend, and stay safe ❤️🙂⚘️🚒.
Definitely not them boys from the Houston Fire department or jacksonville fire-rescue. A lil hustle!
Definitely not 90% of the other FD's in the US...
U got a point
Jfrd station 20 here. This definitely would be a sh*tty vid for us to post on our UA-cam page. Definitely a prime example of what not to do
I'm 2 minutes away from this. I heard all the firetrucks at 4:30am and knew something was bad. But WOW.... 😢
Im sorry you have such mediocre fire “protection”. You should move
They let those cars burst into flames.
It was 1 car, and they didn't "let it"
That car sat there when they had every opportunity to cool it down and save it. Even if the other car didn't burst into flames, I am sure lots of it was melted and destroyed@@davidbott9401
Almost looks like someone started that fire from the outside!! Hopefully everyone is safe
I was thinking the same thing. And the way that thing is burning it looks like an accelerant was used. Looking at the house on Google Maps it appears to be a well maintained property as opposed to a rundown, dry-wooded old dump that would generally go like a bonfire.
These are our neighbors. I can confirm the fire started inside and not outside because I called 911 and saw the fire inside before it came out of the windows.
@@JTFormula I hope your neighbours are ok and can rebuild!
@@JTFormula You’re a hero! Thank you for saving your neighbors. God bless you and your’s.
@@denisek292 They luckily got out of the house before I called 911. It was them yelling outside that caught my attention that made me look out of my window to see the house ablaze. The fire fighters are the true heroes here.
They absolutely positively refuse to lay in even though they have hydrants and 6in. hose. Never use the deck gun though the pumpers are equipped. It's difficult to understand.
Says the 🤡 who has never done the job 🤣
personally i do believe you were either smoking weed
or
smoking crack or some shit
because you either had to be high as hell
or
drunker than hell
because of the fact i've been in the fire service
and there's ABSOLUTELY NO WAY IN LIVING HELL
THAT THEIR GOING TO USE HAND LINES FEEDING FROM THE PUMPER'S TANK ONLY
ON A STRUCTURE FIRE OF THAT SIZE
FURTHER MORE
YOU NEED YOU'RE DAMN EYE'S CHECKED BY A DAMN DR.
ESPEICALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT RIGHT AROUND THE 8 MINUTE MARK
I SEEN THEM LAYING A SUPPLY LINE FOR THE HYDRANT
SO NEXT TIME GET AND HAVE YOU'RE SHIT STRAIGHT
BEFORE RUNNING THAT MOUTH OF YOURS AND BASHING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
WHEN YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TO BEGIN WITH
GO TO FIRE SCHOOL AND LEARN THEN SAY SOMETHING THAT YOU DAMN WELL KNOW FOR SURE
Boy that 1 3/4 sure knocked that down well 🙄
A head scratcher that with that many firemen and equipment that one hose is being used.
When they said fully involved they weren’t kidding. Damn.
This isnt fully involved. That’s mainly siding on Side A
Blitz with the deck gun while establishing water supply.
Oh gee look another YouToob DeckGun Warrior
You’re assuming everyone HAS a deck gun.
LOL no.
I think your recliner just ignited.
@@maggi3320 They should invest in them unless its a rural cost constrained department IMHO.
36 bunkered out Firefighters in the yard, 13 trucks and only 2 guys with 1 hose on the fire 😮
So sorry for the loss of this family's home but thank heavens everyone is safe and accounted for. Seems like the name "Burnt Tavern Rd" is a bad omen.
Great video coverage.
'It's 2024", time for a career fire department.
Great video as always!
Just don’t understand the length of time to put water on fire, is there no water on truck while hooking to hydrants
Since you are being reasonable (unlike most YT commenters) I'll explain.
First, given the situation it really didn't take an unreasonable amount of time, especially considering these are volunteers.
Next, there was no rescue profile (per PD and visual indicators) as this was a heavily involved house, so trying to do a quick-attack with tank water on such a fuel load is going to be relatively pointless.
They instead chose to do a reverse-lay to the hydrant with an attack line and drop a LDH supply line as well, this takes time and means the Engine cannot pump until it is parked. Doing so means they can start to work the fire while tapping the hydrant to feed the Truck and next in Engine, which will now have better access due to the first Engine moving to the hydrant. A reverse-lay will add a bit of time to first water (meaningless as it was already non-survivable and a loss) but it will allow for a better overall fight in that it provides access to more volume faster.
Look at it this way... If the first in had went for a quick attack they would have emptied their tank before making significant progress on such an advanced fire load, then have to wait to either hand-jack a supply line or have another Engine arrive and then lay in. This was a perfectly reasonable job, especially considering these are volunteers.
@@virgilhilts3924No it wasn't. If establishing a water supply was so important, there were two guys there watching the fire who could have helped. They obviously didn't consider it important.
@@shawnc1016
WTH are you even talking about?
Maybe I’m wrong but firefighters should be accountable as to how long it takes them to get to a fire and ESPECIALLY how long it takes them to get water onto the fire.
They are used to fires so it’s no big deal for them, meanwhile somebody’s whole life’s belongings is going up in smoke.
NO BECAUSE I LIVE UP THE STREET AND THEY TOOK TWENTY MINUTES TO ARRIVE. THEY ARE FIVE MINUTES AWAY.
@@Kurzvordemende that’s so sad. Same thing happened in the last video, a lady lost everything but at least her two dogs got out ok.
You should volunteer then and be at the dept ready to go.
@@mgratk good answer. How long did it take you to think of that. I don’t need to volunteer, I pay my taxes in Naples, Florida and our fire department is on the ball and probably the best in the nation.
@@Naplesfrank154 Well NJ is a sh*thole run by democrats, and you are right it is a most excellent answer. Also the volunteers don't need to volunteer either. They choose to help.
Dang JSFR, do you ever sleep?!
Deck. Gun.
Come on man. The fuck!
Oh gee look another YouToob DeckGun Warrior
OK...now you REALLY are a jerk. Quit stinking up the joint.
Great video
Thanks for the visit
Never seen so many standing round LOOKING ladder lying down trip hazard one ladder getting heat tested Car going up in flames LOOKS like just one hose for all--- looks like retraining for the top brass they give the orders ---TRAINING Boys at the bottom work their ass of One thing i have NOTICED that CHEIF what ever you call them in the USA are 90% over weight
The boys at the bottom[ FIRE FIGHTERS ]cop all the flack with out them you have no TEAM
Keyboard commanders rule these clips
Dude these a loser volunteers, what do you expect?
Tell me who would leave a ladder up to heat up like that every one looking on Only in the USA go watch fire fighters from other countrys then you will see ACTION
@@glyn1 dude big city firefighters in the US are better than anywhere else in the world. Don’t bundle these clowns in with best of us
@@glyn1 Other countries with their undersize garden hoses.
Not a particularly impressive performance.
Like your honeymoon.
I think fully involved might be a bit of an understatement here boys
In Europe water would have flowed within 20 seconds of arrival from initial 2 lines, then further 2 lines before the US could put water on with one.
I am watching from Elmira NY we have big structure fires like that up here but Elmira fire department gets them under control quickly with help from the West Elmira volunteer fire department
Why does it take so long to turn on the engine tank pressure to the hose? They could have at least saved the car in front. The structure was basically a total loss before they arrived IMHO. I've seen many FF videos and long delays in charging the hoses seems to be a common issue. Some departments do it in less than a minute, others seem to take forever. Why? Three minutes into the video before there is water on the fire. Also why not deploy the deck gun for a quick 20 second blast? If they don't have a deck gun, why not? Seems like a great tool for certain situations.
My intent is not to be disrespectful of firefighters, I respect and appreciate them. But all of us in life can learn from critique, reflection and self improvement. I think after each fire call, departments should (if not doing this), have a short meeting to discuss what went well and what can be improved.
All very good questions… biggest questions. When time after time these vollies screw up, why do the towns not do anything about it?
POOR training and leadership. On a normal fire, it shouldn't take more than a minute to charge a line.
First, given the situation it really didn't take an unreasonable amount of time, especially considering these are volunteers.
Next, there was no rescue profile (per PD and visual indicators) as this was a heavily involved house, so trying to do a quick-attack with tank water on such a fuel load is going to be relatively pointless.
They instead chose to do a reverse-lay to the hydrant with an attack line and drop a LDH supply line as well, this takes time and means the Engine cannot pump until it is parked. Doing so means they can start to work the fire while tapping the hydrant to feed the Truck and next in Engine, which will now have better access due to the first Engine moving to the hydrant. A reverse-lay will add a bit of time to first water (meaningless as it was already non-survivable and a loss) but it will allow for a better overall fight in that it provides access to more volume faster.
Look at it this way... If the first in had went for a quick attack they would have emptied their tank before making significant progress on such an advanced fire load, then have to wait to either hand-jack a supply line or have another Engine arrive and then lay in. That applies to using a Deck Gun as well, in fact DG's are less effective in that they cannot be maneuvered the way hand-lines can, thus they are less effective for most situations. People who shout "Deck Gun!" are people who have never used one, but they think it makes them sound cool because they heard someone on YouBoob say it.
This was a perfectly reasonable job, especially considering these are volunteers.
@@ffjsb
Says the 🤡 who claims firefighting experience but doesn't know the difference between a *roof hook* and *drywall hook*
@@bobbys1984
What *specifically* was "screwed up" in this instance
Oooffff so many people complaining and bitching, but aren’t the ones dedicating and risking their lives to fight fire. Please 🥴🥴🥴🥴 they did a phenomenal job as always.
Great job great team work and great sweet catches as usual still going strong they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's stop and honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks stay safe and warm out there very impressed let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right wonder what the couse is that started the fire ?!!!! Joe
Oh shut up you dork these guys suck at there job
The fire depts at the jersey shore need more professional Training, or just make one big paid department , NJ has the highest taxes on the planet, they can afford it.
EXACTLY!!!
Not all but some definitely. Brick has three fire districts. Two are relatively competent. This is the same company who had a firefighter catch fire a few videos back and no charged line.
@@thomasbolcar8019 I believe that was because of a leaking fuel cap on a saw. Hard to say if that was because someone failed to tighten it properly, or it was cracked. That's a pretty rare occurrence.
agreed -Monmouth county had more than 50 aerials at one time -yet few paid departments
My neighbor told me a story as a volunteer firefighter. House burned up child in attic couldn't get to her because ladder truck out for repairs or this poorer town didn't have the revenue to immediately repair. The wealthier township that surrounded didn't respond in time to save the girl. Tragedy. We need county wide FD and as far as I am concerned county police and schools like Virginia. Volunteer firefighters will still have a role though. To much government
Ahhhh water,more pressure, another line, 2 1/2 anything. Why is this town always on fire? Why in alot of these videos does the fire get worse when the fire department show up?
yet again a 3 whole minuites after arrival before the first drop of water is put on that fire why are they so slow surely water in the engine could be used whilst connecting the hoses up to the hydrent
Thanks for confirming that you have no clue what you are rambling about... Ignorance can be entertaining
Except that he is EXACTLY right!@@virgilhilts3924
@@virgilhilts3924 what about what he said indicates he has no idea what he’s talking about?
@@bobbys1984
If you were an actual firefighter as you claim you would know as it is incredibly obvious.
Oops 🤣
@@virgilhilts3924 1. what are you even blabbering about? 2. Not only am I career, I work in a real city, as an officer, for over 13 years.. I strongly support fire unions and suggest you just quit while you’re ahead.
What's up with the water delay ? Pull the lever already !!! Other than that not bad Brick and company.
Arrival, pull attack line, tank to pump, water should be out in less then 2 min
The first minute of this hurt to watch… it doesn’t matter that it’s already a loss, our job is to get there and out it out as fast and safe as possible, especially when you have an exposure right there on the b side…. Where is the fucking water? 1 3/4?! Sheesh
A little hustle with the h2o, damn. This is another perfect reason why I have 2x 250gallon water storage containers and a mk3 pump with hoses. I'm not gonna risk a slow response.
This is a good one!!
Glad that everyone was able to get out in time, and that there were no injuries to anyone related to this incident.
Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
Great video and good job firefighters! Thank goodness no one was injured. Y’all catch a lot of heat, literally and figuratively, and much of it is unwarranted. The wood house was fully engulfed, plus it kept flaring-up. Ignore the cruel comments: Only y’all are there, know the area and conditions you face. One question: Were y’all able to save the Challenger? Special place in my heart for muscle cars….Mustang owner here, too. Y’all keep safe out-there.
Alot of house fires in brick 😮
Holy 💩 that whole house is covered in fire i don't think there is much left to even try to get it out
Fully involved, and they're F'n around with their packs, WOW
That makes sense as I was listening to the firefighter a day or two after and he was upset. It was a walk up attic Victorian she was at the window and the house was ablaze. He quit
Deck gun would have been good to start. Woukdbt you want that first 1 3/4 line to the left of the driveway to protect the exposures over there? I mean the house is already a total loss and they can prevent loss of the vehicles and the next doir structure.
Oh gee look yet another YouToob FD wannabe deck gun warrior
You understand that pre arrival means before the fire department arrives?
Oh yes why I do… look at my many pre arrival videos here on UA-cam:) maybe you’ll understand and see that I was there before them. If you’re seeing them drive into the scene while I’m filming that means I was there before them.. glad you understand what it means!
What's wrong with you guys you got to have your lines out
Bad job Ocean County Fire Dept. You took to long to put water on that fire. Back to training yall go!
we have heavy fy-er ....
Perfect a guy walking around with a pike pole!!!! Grab a second line and move in!
Is it just me, or are these guys really incompetent rank amateurs? An extraordinary example of lots of hurry up and no effective action. Glad I don't live in that area.
You have been really an incompetent rank amateur for quite awhile...but it is unlikely that it is only you. Hope this makes you feel better.
Never mind the troll, you're 100% right.
It's not you.
@@ffjsb You kinda sound like a troll yourself ffff.
@@RLTtizME I suspect I am an incompetent rank amateur when it comes to fighting structure fires, but I don't get all dressed up and run around pretending to be competent like these guys.
I’ll say it… thanks to the Volunteer firemen who leave their warm beds to come to the distress of a complete stranger only to be criticized by morons watching the video of your efforts and bashing what you do.
Next time stay in your warm bed. People and property thank you
As it was fully involved and have a tower ladder as first due truck company why deploy it during overhaul and not during fire attack? Now notice i didn't say initial attack but as soon as a positive water supply was established why not use it? I vas a vol for 2 years & everyone lived like within a mile or 2 from the fire house so our response time from time of dispatch to first unit responding was 5 min (for us that was good, but that was back in 2000 things have changed since i left)
You are clueless and part of the problem
Put water go to the dead of the fire not the flames. And bottom up. Maximize the use of steam.
BIG FIRE BIG WATER, use the BIG gun on top of the Eng, that turret would have knock 90% of that red stuff down, and not a 1.75 ether, you need 2.5 for that kind of fire.. Oh, and yes tank to pump. 33+ in the fire service and I still don't know why some Dept. don't even think about the deck gun, it just boggles my mind, if there was ever a time to use it, it was on this one!
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How did that spread so quickly unbelievable
Guess all the critics on here missed that quick knockdown of the exterior by the single line.
😂😂😂
As an incident commander, pulling up to this, first words is O SHIT
you can hear the one guy at the 2 minute mark yelling wheres the water, 1st line charged at 2:33 i mean once he had water he did a bang up job of getting a knock down on the front, and in reference to the hand ladders one of the 23's LT told Bobby start throwing ladders, start working no other direction lol, I mean the fire was self venting pretty well at that point and guranteed that roof was soft so pointless to work the roof safely, i mean for this department i have seen much worse in the past, they had a good initial knockdown on the exterior in 7 minutes, so are they actually having the first or second due engine actually lay a supply from the hydrant besides hand jacking one after the fact?
Wow, why waste time pulling a hand line? This can only be fought with master streams.
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Big fire needs big water. Not people standing around with no hose in hand. If you you can't simply put water on the red & orange thing stay home work at burgér king Do your job!!!!!!
That sucks that a family lost their home. Glad nobody was injured.
You need ladders on this house for the... Conditions not compatible with life... To vent the fire that has already vented.... To burn up a perfectly good ladder. Tank to pump Frank, goes without saying
Great job on the clip Brick Township puts in a lot of work
It's a volunteer FD as well
Brick Township sucks ass. They are horribly trained and can't perform BASIC firefighting tasks. It takes them WELL over 2 1/2 minutes to get water on the fire, you should be able to do that in less than a minute.
@@virgilhilts3924 It should be a full time PAID FD.
@@ffjsb
So says the 🤡 who claims decades of firefighting experience yet doesn't know the difference between a *roof hook* and *drywall hook* Or that GPM's are a measurement of volume 😆😅😂🤣
@@virgilhilts3924 yes I have friends that are members down the shore Brick Township Toms River and Point Pleasant Beach all served as officers or chiefs of departments
Deck Gun,Blitz Fire,Tower or Elevated Master Stream ? ITS GONE Protect Exposures
Great video of the fire ground brother, excellent job. Great response and quick action by the fire department and all other first responders 👏👏👏👍👍👍
Thank you!!
Everyone make it out tho
Yes!
Great job by these men. Good bless every one of them
May need to concentrate on exposure side B and the vehicles first.
Dang I think that was set my lord
how did the 🔥 star, what cause the 🔥, was there any body home at the time of the 🔥 & is everyone okay or 🚫????🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨
you are so unlucky with these fireclowns. Why is their training lacking so much basic stuff?
What specifically was done wrong?
A shame the owners can’t save their cars.
It's wonderful to read all humans ere out but were all fur 'babies' out as well (if any)?
Every time a police officer or even the lay public, for that matter, sees flames, it’s always “fully involved “. You could have a room & contents fire with no extension and it’s “Fully involved “.
However in this case, the initial update was correct. I would call that fully involved. 🔥
You would be wrong
Very true, police in brick always claim fully involved but yes this time it was
The roof ladder is toast. Why would you place a ladder on a house that has fire out of every opening. I'm not putting anyone on that roof.
Was fire out every opening? Or just side A?
Also through the roof
House is a loss, save surrounding structures and the vehicles
No water supply. No water on the fire and the chief is worried about caution tape. WTF.
Thanks for confirming that you have no clue what you are even looking at in this video
They had a water supply established as soon as the line was charged that’s what took the extra couple mins.
10 guys on front lawn, one small fire hose with zero pressure, kinda pathetic
What’s with the chief on the nozzle?
No urgency by fire dept. if you listen they don't even know how to get water
Awesome coverage. Great job to all responders...🤗🤗
No, they were horrible. They're poorly trained and poorly led. They should also be a full time paid FD.
@@ffjsb after reading all your comments to everyone since you seem to be the big shot fire fighter who seems to know everything about this department and what needs to be done why don't you go do something about it. Go train them and pay them instead of being so nasty about volunteers who risk their lives to at least help a town that doesn't have paid fire fighters. As I said since you seem to know it all and can be so nasty and anger about it go do something and fix it!
@@pamhofmeister2531 It's not my job to fix their problem. They've got a bunch of Chiefs, that's THEIR JOB!! FYI I'm on a VFD as well, (not to mention 30+ years full time) and I (and others) can say for a FACT that these guys are poorly trained.
It's up to the politicians and citizens to demand and pay for a full time fire dept. They clearly have the tax base to do that.
I notice you can't disprove anything I've said, all you can do is whine about it.
A complete loss. I feel bad for the owners of that home.
Very advanced fire conditions on arrival
@@jerseyshorefireresponse Saw that.
Paid vs volunteer. Water 30 sec..an they r useing 1 1/2 in..that a 2 1/2 ,or deck gun fire..or atleast..thats how we would do it..
Not 100% true. I’ve seen some paid departments that are horrible and some volunteer fire companies that are superior.
It’s all about trading and running qualified competent members.
"We"...? 🤣
You have never worked a fire in your life
Go get it boys on fire code 1032 secint alarm
The laddering of the roof at 5:25 makes zero sense to me. Ain't nobody going on that roof after the amount of fire in that buildling.
Glad thats not my FD