Who is the Premier League's best ever team? | BBC Sport
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
- Sir Alex Ferguson's treble winners? Jose Mourinho's first Chelsea team? or Arsene Wenger's 'Invincibles'?
Gabby Logan is joined by Ian Wright, Wes Brown, Chris Sutton and Miguel Delaney debate to find out the Premier League's best ever team.
Which team will win?
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I think so, talented players and probably harder to beat than the invincibles when things aren't going their way. Plus their football was also fun to watch unlike Chelsea's. Man City I don't count because the ridiculous amount they spend without almost any player from their academy
@@goodfella1401 harder to beat than a team that didnt get beat???
They were very lucky to beat at the final to Chelsea 2008 by penalty ...
@@kbphtgy2039 They were invincible in the league. They were beaten 6 times across all competitive fixtures that season. Utd 98/99 lost 4 times. 2 Great teams but over the courses of both seasons I don't think saying utd 98/99 were harder to beat is controversial.
@@WMartinNI right. I think if Arsenal had lost in the Champions League to a foreign team, the loss wouldn't be as important to their reputation
Wes Brown sitting there thinking... i have 2 CL anf 5 PL titles.. what are we even discussing about...
mertesacker and giroud have world cups...
NINJAGOONER giroud is Frances third top scorer of all time. Mertesacker won the world cup for a reason. He was slow but he could defend so well
@@8SHINIGAMIN1NJA8 this is literally the most irrelevant point I have read...
And he wouldn't lace Wrights boots
@@Comingforfootballfans because the point went over your head
Derby 07/08 by far the best prem team
The fact that Darren Moore didn't win the Ballon d'Or that season is a travesty
No one ever looked at Derby the same way again after 07/08
Truly we were lucky to see them play
kieran mccabe they had Robbie Savage in that squad. They had to go down in style of course. What did you expect? 😂😂😂😂
Why
As fan of Arsenal, I would love to say that invicibles were the best. But above all by far is still ManUTD team from 98/99 for me. Premier League title, FA Cup winners, Champions League winners, Intercontinental Cup winners and 3 PL title in a row (99;00;01). That 99's CL final is just classic and one of the most inspiring games ever in history of sports.
respect for the honest opinion
99 was just luck and 08 was luck too. I think man united were at their peak during the 2006-07 and 2008-09 season
Sbm... Even by what you say then united are the only team to win it 3 times in a row and the done that twice so the best team has to united from 98-01 or united 06-09.
Saying that if this city side can surpass them but as of right now they haven't so it has to be one of those united teams.
@SBM Yeah and ManUtd were still obviously better because that 99 team still retained their PL title...and again the following year... and that's not even including most players were also involved in the 96 PL & FAcup double and 97 PL win so they won 5 PL's in 6 seasons from 96 to 01 when Arsenal can't ever even get 2 in a row (the 1 ManUtd didn't win RoyKeane was injured all season 97/98 and ManUtd still only lost by 1 point because Arsenal took maximum points off ManUtd with 1 game being controversial the 3-2 Arsenal win at Highbury ManUtd had at least 1 stone wall pen turned down at 2-2 in a must win game for Arsenal), ManUtd won 8 PL's in 11 seasons from 93 to 03. It's obviously ManUtd. If it was just judged only on number of PL losses in a season it would be 03/04 Arsenal but that would be a fucking stupid waste of time having a discussion because you just look at the losses amount and no point in having the programme but it shouldn't be judged like that anyway, there's more luck involved in winning the odd title here and there with 1 being like that, how many you win says a lot more...and let's be honest Arsenal were lucky to go unbeaten that PL season and they weren't as free flowing as people say they were, how many team's have won the PL with more than 73 goals, quite a few, quite a few have lost the title with way more than 73 PL goals and they never retained a PL title and didn't even come close to winning the champions league that season and still haven't won the competition fullstop, only once a finalist they've been shite in the competition to be fair and even forgetting ManUtd's high standards, Arsenal themselves managed to get to a cup final every season from 1999/00 to 2006/07....apart from 03/04 funnily enough.
07/08 was better than the treble united team, yes the treble was something that'll always be there but the fact 07/08 won 3 leagues in a row and got to back to back champions league finals takes it for me.
GameBros :- You are right, but why the need to be abusive? It's a tough call between many of these teams especially United.
@@ColinUTD and somehow John Terry was the player who won it for United
Bri10 nope, it was Van Der Sar
Nope, it was Terry.
He's a United legend
@@MegaTamer111 Yes, but still, that United team of 07-08 was scary. It had Ronaldo. Enough said.
To me Chelsea's 2004/05 team was one of the best teams ever from a defensive standpoint, only 15 goals conceded in 38 games and just one defeat is just staggering
I love Ian Wright always humble and such an amazing person absolute legend!🙌🙌🙌
As good as Man City were last season, the lack of competition they had from the top 6 needs to come into question. Arsenal were awful, Chelsea weren't much better, Liverpool were only good in Europe, Spurs were lackluster and Man Utd, despite coming second, were still really poor. Man City had no competition. If that Man City team had played 10-15 years ago, would they have accumulated 100 points? I highly doubt it.
These ifs and buts don't make your case .But for your sake footballers are better physically and technically due to advances in technology and training methodologies ...so we can't compare different eras teams with hypothetical matches rather we should gauge them using the points they got playing the teams of the same era.
It's not that Mancity had no competition..Man City destroyed all competition. City were miles ahead of the rest and there wasn't a lot of points between the rest..
Alex George , you’re a big fool for saying this
Exactly, the City team destroyed everyone else, when the league has teams all earning £100m+ a year.
The top 6 clubs last season were pathetic. Yes City were amazing, but their competition were useless. They finished 19 points above United. The title was pretty much won by December. Man Utd were terrible last season too. Look at the runners up of all the great teams to win the premier league, they were far better.
Reality: Man Utd 99 & 08 teams won multiple trophies in one year including European cup and the EPL & they also won the EPL three years on the trot. We've witnessed in the past few years how difficult that is to do.
No team has EVER done it and it’s the hardest thing to do especially w such a young side
Honest think that Chelsea 04/05 team should have just been talked about more? And just scrap the 09/10, I mean they didn’t even mention the 15 goals conceded in a whole season? A record that is ridiculous. Also fighting against the best united and arsenal sides as well along with Liverpool who were also right up there, for aslong as they spoke about the invincible’s this Chelsea team should have been spoken about more.
I would say that Chelsea team is the best but they not consistent enough like Man United.
Manchester Utd are the all time best fact
@@SirLynxz. Lost 1 game?
As a united fan, that chelsea team was probably the only one which had a hex over us. Not sure where it went wrong but I do think Roman trying to influence transfers too much disrupted Mourinho's flow....I mean that chelsea literally had everything. The Shevchenko signing was probably one too much (also shouldn't have let tiago go)
Chelsea 04/05 One of the best Prem teams ever, easy top 3, best defence in Prem ever, Conceded only 15 goals and almost went unbeaten, only losing 1 game and had the highest points total for winning the title until City beat it.
They technically didn't almost go unbeaten. Barca almost went unbeaten in 2017/18.
Chelsea had already lost a game with 3 quarters of the season to play. In fact the timing of their loss was when they were quite concerned with their season so far, because they'd dropped 7 points and weren't top and had only scored 8 goals in 9 games which included own goals/penalties/goals from corners etc...They had many narrow wins so the fact they lost 1 game narrowly isn't unlucky either.
@@cddb5408 We technically almost did go undefeated dfkm
@@hamz6197 No, as I said their loss was very early in the season.
@@cddb5408 So?
@@hamz6197 So they didn't almost go the season unbeaten.
Was it the 36th game they lost? 37th? 38th? No, nowhere near so you can't say they were nearly unbeaten.
If you lose a game 2-1 when you were 2-0 down & getting battered for most of it but score a consolation goal last kick of the game 96th minute to lose 2-1 it's not a close game but judging by how you think you'd say that was a close game.
Invincibles is the best by so far, yes they drew twelve games but to not lose a game even when u are levels above the rest is so hard, we saw with Liverpool 19/20 they were miles ahead of everyone but lost to Watford, the mental and physical toughness it takes to not lose a game is incredible that’s why Invincibles are No. 1
No mate
I’m
An arsenal fan
Man Utd Treble is
Come on
As a United fan the Arsenal invisibles was a massive kick in the stones for us. That’s why the 50th was massive at old Trafford. They were a great side, had it all. Loved that rivalry
Big reasons why 98/99 is still considered the best ever team in the league:
1) Context, competition and thrill
2) They had a great squad outside their starting XI that no other team did. They won the UCL without Scholes and Keane in midfield because they had Butt and Blomqvist. They had 2 of the best back up strikers in the league in Sheringham and Ole who would get into any top 6 side today (little context for why Man City is not considered as much tho they're def top 3)
3) The best ever team in the EPL should be a team that has represented the league in Europe and been successful doing so. For English football, nothing will come close to it except another treble. Maybe if this Man City team wins the treble they would get the edge because of their sophisticated and eye-catching style.
I get all those points, but surely for this argument excellence should be placed over entertainment so its 07/08 for just pure consistency. And if a team HAD to represent in europe as a qualifier, Leicester would automatically have been disqualified
Yep excellence should be placed over entertainment but the greatest ever have something in addition to excellence - nerve and grit. The greatest teams imo have to overcome the biggest odds and have the "clutch" mentality. Also Leicester should not even be considered for this discussion. Ian Wright summed it up perfectly - great achievement, not a great team (which was proven the next season).
Neil Malu
And the way they won the champions league. It was harder to qualify for because there were 24 team's not 32... and it was harder to reach the knockouts because you had to win your group or be 1 of the 2 best runners up out of all the 6 group's. Nowadays if team's get both Bayern and Barca in their group people would say that's a tough group to try and finish 2nd in. But in 1997/98 & 1998/99 you couldn't even play for 2nd in a group like that because only 2 out of the 6 2nd place team's advanced.
If we're talking just the premier league, the treble winning United team is not the best.
@@alexgeorge1028 true, utd 07/08 is. But 98/99 in if you consider everything that happened that's eason
As a tottenham I don't understand the hate the invincible team gets at all. It's an incredible achievement
Ronaldo and scholes alone give utd more ability than any other premier league team, let alone giggs, Rooney, nani, tevez and those two at the back.
Henry?Pires?Robben?Bergkamp?
@@up-qp7jb How Many Titles did they win? How many UCL? :D
Nerviniex Not the team: I would agree that Man U in that era were the best team but for me Henry and Robben are both better than scholes
@@up-qp7jb I would Understand Thierry Henry in that category :D BIt Robben? U crazy? He scored a maximum of what 7 goals a season for Chelsea? :D With C.Ronaldo Man United won 3 premier league titles in a row, and went to 2 ucl finals winning one, also going to an Fa Cup Final which they lost, and would have won another FA CUP if not for some Portsmouth black magic :D
Nerviniex fair but Robben was ridiculous for Chelsea. He changed them from being defensive and dour to being a great team to watch. For me he is symbolic.
United 99
United 08
Chelsea 05
City 18
Arsenal 04
United 94
Chelsea 10
Arsenal 98
(If you win a champions league, you are the best team in Europe that season which is more impressive than just being the best in England. None of these other teams were ever the best in the world. The two United teams were.
The Mourinho Chelsea team were very, very impressive and could easily have been in Istanbul that season if it wasn't for terrible refereeing officials against Liverpool. They talk about the points record on this programme, but I still think Chelsea's 95 is more impressive than City's 100. The teams Chelsea had to face to win the league (Arsenal invincibles, Ferguson United, Liverpool-the european Champions) were all much better than the teams City had to face last season. Also the defensive record of only conceding 15 is almost inconceivable looking back. They're ahead of the invincibles for me because they literally bested them the next season-the exact team, they proved they were better. Also they won another trophy too and went on to retain the title the following season.
City's team last season were exceptional at times. How De Bruyne didn't win POTY I'll never know. 100 points its an amazing achievement and will only be achieved again the next time somebody comes into the premier league and revolutionises English football again. The fact that they're goalkeeper was better with his feet than a massive percentage of outfield players really says it all. Additionally they won another competition and broke the record for the most goals showing how entertaining and dominant they were. The reason they are only fourth in my list is because they had no competition. They're closest challengers were a terrible United team and the fact that they managed to get over 80 points kind of shows that the league was actually very poor last season. Still though, I reckon they'd give the other teams in this list a run for their money.
The invincibles were obviously an outstanding team, but I do agree the fact that they seemingly sacrificed the champions league all in search of the record was a bit of an oversight. Henry once again proved himself to be the best striker in the leagues history and absolutely terrorised defences. They played good football as well. They were also a very intimidating side with lots of big players and would best anyone if they wanted to have a physical battle. Despite this they didn't do well in other competitions and couldn't retain the league the following season as soon as a worthy challenger emerged.
You really worked hard for that comment.
the title of the video is PREMIER LEAGUE best team not European best team so CL cant really be taken to account now
100% agree
Alvin Lam, I think it is relevant because regardless of what competition they are in it is the same premier league side. It also shows how good they were that they were the best in Europe. It also takes a great team compete on so many levels and play such high importance games every three days in the latter part of the season.
Joesph Cole, I'm not saying it isn't, I'm saying this is a video about premier league success, not European success. It's not about being the best in Europe, this video is about the best of the Premier League. Best of Europe is for another video. For the sake of this video, the CL isn't relevant so you can't really count it as an achievement (even though of course it is outside the PL). You can't let winning the CL distract you from Premier League success. And what AFC did in the Premier league is worthy of at least being top 3 in the list.
21:18 Leicester's win was the greatest EPL achievement in history! I wholeheartedly agree with you!
it was the most boring season in history
@@mcfcok1683 Why? because Man City were crap?
@@jaypatel4722 yeah 😂😂 and it was just a dead season all round, the champions had 81 points, think that says it all
@@mcfcok1683 Nah mate thats a bit much. we lost three games in the whole season. just because none of the 'big 6' did well, doesn't make it a bad season. it makes it one of the best of all time.81 points is a solid tally. sorry that, for once, city had to step back and admit they were worse than us that year. it will always be the greatest premier league season.
@@jaypatel4722 don’t get big thinking your club is massive, you won 1 league title in 130 years, while the rest of the league was shit, u also drew 12 games, that’s ridiculously high for a title winning team, City got 198 points in two seasons, that’s a far better achievement
I would say Man United 2007-2008... Every position was solid and great... From a Liverpool fan.
Damn, as u can see I’m a united fan but personally it’s the treble side
@@benallen9796 Gary Neville thinks 08 is stronger, thought that’s worth mentioning
Chelsea 2004-05 had the best defence in premier league history. Chris Sutton saying they didn’t have the best defence just shows how delusional he is.
15 goals conceded. Insane
@@jdcloudflare yes with carvalho and terry at cb
It's because he's only have one epl he was never good what does he know
@Madmanrollin
He was referring to Arsenal's defence in the 90's. Not necessarily their 97/98 defensive record although they still had a fair amount of clean sheets but for example the following season they only conceded 17 in the PL.
He played against that defence, he didn't play against Chelsea's defence.
The top 2 players i would pick over everyone would be Roy Keane as Captain and Dennis Bergkamp. Then you can pick the rest. They were instrumental in the two biggest sides.
Utd 2007/2008 Ronaldo tevez Rooney.... Best team I've ever seen outside of Barça..
Well you watched way to few football games then....
@@Katrimanius Pep has said United 09’ were one of the best squads he’d ever faced in his career so this guy’s watched enough football.
@@Katrimanius pep is in agreement with me that's good enough for me . But for a bullshit decision against Portsmouth we'd be talking treble winners again .
Utd 99
Invincibles
Chelsea
City
Utd 94
Consolation prize goes to Spurs for putting the pressure on that one time.
Joe Mills Utd 7/8 over all
I think you mean Liverpool? They were the ones constantly battling to get back to that top 3.
Would be really interesting to see this discussion now that City and Liverpool now have teams that could arguably be seen as top three. City could win treble this season, and Liverpool with their 99 points season. Liverpool also got 97 points and got second which is insane considering their record was 30 W, 7 D, and 1 L, all the while they won the CL that season. Great discussion
All great teams but it's obviously either United 99 or 08.
The treble Man United for sure. I would add that Giggs, Beckham and Scholes at their prime were incredible.
Funny no one said spice girls
chelsea 04/05 was a brilliant season
More of these types of videos please :)
Depends. On PL performance alone it must be the team who achieved the most points, Chelsea or City now. Over a season it has to be the treble winners, United. The invincibles were a great side but, evidently, not as good as City chelsea or United (you can go down without losing). Also, the United treble winners went on to win the PL at a canter for two more seasons so, overall, it's a no brainer. United 1999-2001.
In terms of a Premier League level, easily United 07/08. In terms of on a bigger stage, United 98/99.
Keep up with these sorts of videos BBC! Really enjoyed the one regarding 'The Best Premier League Team of all Time' and I've only already watched about 4 mins of this video and its fantastic! Keep it up team!
It's so hard to choose between the 98/99 and 07/08 United team. My heart says 98/99 but my brain says 07/08. Tbh I don't think you can wrong with either one.
Both great team's but it's got to be the team who won more trophies which was 98/99. Because even if you say ManUtd battered Portsmouth in FAcup 08 and were unlucky, ManUtd dealt with a lot of bad luck and adversity during many games in 98/99 but found something from someone to get through it and still win all 3 trophies.
Also it was harder to win the champions league in 1998/99 because there were only 24 team's in the group stages instead of 32 (and a lot more "champions" to compete against) and only the teams who topped their group or the best 2 runners up reached the knockouts. Most team's who finished 2nd in the group didn't advance so ManUtd did well to manage that alone considering they had both Bayern and Barca in their group when it wasn't just a case of trying to finish top2 but top or 1 of the 2 best runners up out of all the groups.
I'm not saying ManUtd didn't top their group in 07/08, they did and very comfortably (although it was a lot weaker teams) I'm just saying the tasks for the 98/99 team I feel were harder from the start but they still won the perfect treble.
United class of 99❤️.
Who a lot of them were from class of 92
I bet 50% of the people commenting can't even remember half the teams being spoken about.
Sorry that I'm young
@@alexpickford5726 I forgive you child.
@@Jayoshay11 but I promise to tell the generation after me the same thing
I bet you are part of that 50%
I only started watching the Prem League in 2003. Imo it's ManUtd 07/08 when they won the UCL. Amazing GK+CB duo at the back, and that trident of CR7, Rooney, and Tevez was just unstoppable.
How can you not love Ian Wright?
1. MU
2. ARSENAL
3. CHELSEA
4. CITY
#RESPECT
Al Mazdabovsky Respect to you my friend.
#respe
As a United fan, I was so impressed by City's team last season that I think should they have beaten Liverpool in the CL, they would've won the entire thing. So because they didn't I have to go United 07-08.
YOUR a United fan?
Three greats and a winnable good journalist
Conte's Chelsea 16/17 should have gotten a shout. 10th to champions, and the way that team influenced all of English football. All of a sudden everyone was playing 3 at the back, including the national team. Chelsea's 2016/17 was a revolutionary season.
Why is the question the best Premier league team as if football didn’t exist before 1992. If you are talking truthfully it’s about how successful a team has been and the best ever teams are
1, United
2, Liverpool
3, Arsenal
Arsenal fan.
Shane McDonald they specifically called it the pl and the pl started in 1992
What a dumb fuck
I would agree 100 percent. Growing up as a united fan in the late 70' and 80' Liverpool were by far the greatest team on the planet. United took that mantel over and arsenal were great for a period of 5-6 consistent so for me I know Liverpool didn't win the PL but I'd agree with that top 3
1/ United 99
2/ Arsenal invincibles
3/ united 7/8
4/ Man City 17/18
5/ chelsea 4/5
Willian Borges da Silva Chelsea r shit
No. Chelsea 05 was the best and this is coming from a Liverpool fan. Conceded like 16 goals all season. Best defensive partnership in the premier league era
Chelsea 04/05 ahead of Pep's season, they actually got to the Champions League semi finals, although they also lost to a Liverpool side
Bri10 hmm maybe I’m only putting them higher coz they broke our records
Against who though? Chelsea beat off the Champions league winners and the Invincibles. City's closest challengers were a terrible united team
13:03 love wrighty
That Chelsea team in 04/05 is the best. Conceded only 15 goals and just 1 defeat. Even that 1 defeat was a penalty in a 1-0 loss against Man City. They were the hardest to beat and had an incredible attack with Drogba, Robben and Duff.
No where near as good as utd treble winning side.
@@JayloT93 they'd have wiped the floor with that 99 team
@@evanwilliams3211 I highly doubt it
@@evanwilliams3211 🤣🤣🤣
You should include poll for viewers so instead of commenting we can see result what majority thinks.
AND SOLSKJAER HAS WON IT!
Enjoyed that
Arsenal fan here. Chelsea 05/06 were the best of the best. That team could have played in the 90s and could play now and still win things. They just seem not to have any weakness at all. Mentally they we're a rock , tactically they would adapt to almost all things
You can hate it all you like but United 98/99 team was the greatest. Dominated the Prem, FA Cup and Champions league. That team went on to win 3 consecutive league titles too. You're taking the piss if you think otherwise. The only teams i feel could have really caused that team problems was Arsenals 99 squad, Chelseas 2005/6 squad and City's current squad. If you remove emotion and think logically its an easy pick. That team had Becks, Giggs, Scholes and Keane in midfield....FUCKING RIP LOL
LFC fan here, but United cane everyone in just about all categories, bar the Invincibles. Moreover, they bought in a lot of British and Irish talent. Arsenal, used to be pretty good with locals, but they became shite later on. Chelski, and City, what a joke their player development is. Thus, I hate to say it, but United all the way.
I would say Arsenal's invincibles, because nobody could achieve that in PL and that team was fantastic. United's treble winners comes close. City's last season team (Pep) & Mourinho's first Chelsea team worth a mention too.
As a Utd fan ....I gotta say I've always loved WRIGHTY ...he is just MR TRUTH....A MAN of straight forward words ...love him
Ian Wright: "Manchester City blew everyone away."
"But nobody pushed back against them."
Yeah they did. Liverpool beat Manchester City. Manchester United beat Baldy at the Etihad. A Guardiola team better than a Sir Alex Ferguson side? You've got to be joking.
Rishav Paul he beat us in the final in 2011
llyas if son beat his father one time that doesn't mean son is better than father so just up I think you are city fan. I can understand your feelings but just talk sensible. Current man City players are no were near man utd players ok 99. I think man City got defeated by Norwich in 2019 I think you watched the game 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Yeah pep Guardiola is best manager in your dream 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Guardiola's Barcelona gave Ferguson's ManU side a hiding in 2 separate CL finals. This was even admitted by Fergie himself. End of discussion.
Arsene wengers invincibles🍾
D best
Haha good one
Overrated
May I just say that the Man U then, everyone in the club was dependable. You just knew when a player plays a ball, whether passers or receivers, they are just dependable to create something. Even as a fan, you expected it to happen. Almost like I could predict the outcome.
Out of those options I can't decide between the treble winning United or the 07/08 United. On the one hand that 90's United had that fantastic achievement of being the first and only ones to do the treble, and had many great season defining moments. On the other hand the 07/08 United had a higher level of quality and the competition around them was a lot better. It was back when our top 4 were dominating Europe.
I think Man United r the best(Everton Fan)
Deluded Liverpool fans now commenting they r😂👇👇
Adam Carpenter I do support Liverpool but city are the best
Na Liverpool r really deluded thinking they r gonna win the league
But yea City r the best English team r now but I thought they was talking about the best English team with the best history but they r doing shit right now😂😂
Also just checked on ur channel
Umm I think u need to private ur playlists😂😂 'TITS' horny kid or what😂😂
As a liverpool fan, i do hope someone buys richarlison from you guys cus he is too good to be in that shit squad
@@zisolo4283 we don't have a shit squard we have a decent squard
I don't think any time soon Richarlision is going😂😂
I kinda feel sorry for the United side of 1993/94 because we were restricted to only playing a maximum of 3 non English players in Europe due to a ban on English teams thanks to the Scousers actions in the 80’s. our starting eleven then:
Schmeichel
Parker Bruce Pallister Irwin
Kanchelskis Keane Ince Giggs
Cantona Hughes
We could only play 3 foreign players in Europe out of: Schmeichel Irwin Kanchelskis Keane Giggs Cantona and Hughes. If we didn’t have that restriction I genuinely believe that side would’ve been the 1st treble winners.
I'm a United fan and as much as I would like to agree with you I'm not sure we would have beaten AC Milan in 1994 in Europe.
Bernard Jay Yh tbh the Milan side from 87-95 are maybe the greatest club side ever but they were coming to an end around 92/93 so idk but just watching how beautiful we’d play in 1993/94. Wow
Would be a great game no doubt. The way Milan destroyed Barcelona in the 94 champions league final was sensational.
Man UTD 4Life
What year did that law finish?
Because ManUtd went out in the group stage in 1994/95 and their squad was very similar to the previous season.
@@bernardjay379 and if you got past AC Milan there was still Cruyff's dream team Barcelona to contend with - Romario, Stoitchkov, Laudrup, Hagi, Koeman, Guardiola, Bakero...
I feel like its best to look at a few year time spans, however you could break it down into best single domestic season, best season overall, and best three year span. I will try to come at this unbiasedly as a RM fan.
Important metrics for multiyear: More PL titles the better. Ideally at least 1 UCL. Dominant style (perhaps backed up with records). Toughness of competition domestically and in europe. Performance against rivals (doesn't look great to lose in Europe to domestic rival).
Ranking based on different metrics:
Best domestic performance 1 year:
1. Man City: ridiculous records broken, during highest level of competition without a truly great rival
2. Chelsea: record breaking with tough opposition, unfortunately records have since been broken
3. Arsenal: invincibles, perhaps in a time of transition for rivals
4. Man United 07/08: Great domestic campaign if a bit short of truly legendary
5. Man United 98/99: Lots of draws and losses domestically, but showed great resolve and character
Best 1 year performance:
1A. Man United 1998/1999: treble and really tough european opposition. Not great domestically and not great competition
1B. Man United 2007/2008: double over tough domestic competition, fairly easy UCL draw and beat a domestic rival in final
3. Man City 2017/2018: Two trophies, tons of records, 100 points, but went out in QF to a domestic rival, records may have been broken even with continued presence in UCL but it certainly helped them reach loftier totals
4. Chelsea: Two trophies, tons of record, went out in SF to a domestic rival
5. Arsenal: Undefeated, but lost to to domestic rival in QF and lost in other cups so the undefeated feels like yeah but...
Best multiyear:
1A. United 98-01: Treble, three premier leagues, 1 UCL, one record setting domestic season, not too much domestic competition outside of Arsenal
1B. United 06-09: UCL, three premier leagues with great but not legendary seasons, no records, two UCL finals, lots of domestic competion (official era of top 4),
Chelsea 04-07: Two premier leagues, one record setting season followed by another truly great domestic season, no european wins
Arsenal: Two premier leagues, one truly legendary season undefeated (49 total games), however never quite did it in Europe and didn't have the toughest domestic competion.
Man City: truly legendary single season domestic campaign, but we will have to wait and see if they go on to win more PL's and perhaps a UCL.
1. ManUtd 98/99 is the best team... they didn't score the most goals, they didn't win the most games... but they won the treble and were consistent for a few seasons after.
2. ManUtd 07/08 is the next beat team... that team could beat any team out there. Any team that wins premier league and champions league is impressive.
3. Man City 17/18 this team COULD BE the best team... they're the most impressive... the points, the record, the way they played, 1-2 more titles they would be the best.
4. Chelsea 04/05 they played great football and were super impressive.
5. Arsenal 03/04 "invincibles" close battle with chelsea for 4th... it's an amazing achievement not to lose a game but 12 draws just means they were hard to beat but didn't beat everyone.
den525
I agree with almost all of that. Although I'll say something that won't be agreed with by too many people. As well as Chelsea 04/05 like you've done I'd also put ManUtd 93/94 just above Arsenal 03/04. Arsenal 03/04 didn't win anything other than the PL and didn't even get to a cup final which they managed to do every other season from 1999/00 to 2006/07. ManUtd won a 42 game PL season with only 4 losses, won the shield, won the FAcup winning 4-0 in the final and got to the final of the LeagueCup and they had a dream team in my opinion. They also didn't resort to Arsenal's 03/04 thuggery and had a lot more honest players than the many cheats Arsenal had around the so called invincible era.
How is no one talking about the Leicester team, we are talking about the greatest PL winning team has to be them. The Bond they had, the Vardy storey and having rejects in the squad, my god nothing will top that side.
Uncle Bruce kante and mahrez scouted from french league 2
u taking the piss? This is about greatest ever team not greatest ever achievement
Thomas Achiampong Yh greatest team to win the PL, ur telling me Leicester team 15/16 wasn’t the greatest team an old 4-4-2 formation wining 1-0 most games, all those other team had great superstars.
Danny Simpson at right back, and they only lost three games.
@@AA_lcfc I think you're confusing 'Greatest Ever Achievement' (which I wholeheartedly agree with Wright as Leicester 15/16) and 'Best Ever PL Team' which is what has been debated here. The notion that a 'Best Ever' should be considered remarkable over others because of the lack of superstars is illogical.
For example: when asked about the Best Ever NBA championship winning team, the Bulls, Lakers, Heat's, Celtics of the modern era come to mind because of the superstars incorporated into those teams and how they came together to form an incredibly formidable group no other teams could match. People would be less likely to mention the one-off winners who achieved greatness over a season with fewer 'superstars' because they wouldn't be considered the Best.
I hope you get my point..
I don't know how you can't mention Conte's first season at Chelsea...
Didn't play in Europe when their title rivals did which benefited them.
@@cddb5408 but tbf it was off the back of a 10th placed season. I wouldn't put it near 98/99 + 07/08 United, 03/04 Invincibles, 04/05 Chelsea or 17/18 Centurions. But since they discussed other teams in this list that don't deserve to be in discussion Chelsea 16/17 should've been given a mention in the video. But like I said those first 5 are the only real contenders.
I don't understand the question. Is it asking which is the best teams in terms of overall quality, which team achieved the most or were the best relative to their era?
1. Man City- 2017-18, while the competing teams faltered a bit to allow them in, that doesn't take away from how consistently utterly dominant they were, not just the best points tally ever, but the best goal difference ever and by extension the most goals scored. too dominant to discount
2. Arsenal -2003-04, Invincibles, nothing can take away from this achievement, the consistency needed to maintain a feat like this is remarkable.
3. Chelsea 2004-05, up until recently, the record points total, and they remain the best defensive side in PL history by a country mile.
deluded
Nice details 'mega' Daryl care to tell me why i'm wrong? or is that level of intelligence above your paygrade?
ARSENAL
If City wins UCL this season and retains the Premier League, then there's no doubt about it
I think City can do it and will do it
So after the 19/20 season , i think City will be the best team England has ever had
hahahaha
As an Arsenal fan i will always love 97-98 and the invincibles but Leicester is the epitomy of the greatest premier league achievement
It's too hard to chose. Sooooo many variables to consider.
Anyway, I'm basing my vote on what was most pleasing on the eye (style of play, excitement, tactics, stand-out individuals, etc) and relative competition at the time.
ALL of them, let's be honest. Much more entertaining league than La Liga :P
Chelsea 04/05, no question. They could play any type of football, and they had quality from the starting XI all the way to the bench.
nope
@OnRockIT
Yet couldn't beat a team who finished joint 5th with Bolton over 2 legs in the champions league lol
Chelsea played Liverpool at home first leg, if that Chelsea team were so good the tie would've been won for Chelsea before the 2nd leg kicked off, or at least almost won. But instead they only drew 0-0 and also failed to score away....Chelsea fans go on about Liverpool's goal not being a goal (rich coming from Chelsea but anyway....) you can't expect to go through without scoring any goals over 2 legs. The LuisGarcia goal should've given Chelski extra incentive to get a goal they would've needed anyway to avoid unnecessary extra time and lottery shootout, they would've still progressed with a 1-1 but they failed and you say they could play any way??
The following season with almost the exact same squad but actually some improvement signings Chelsea also didn't impress in the champions league.
I do think they were much better than for example the 09/10 team which shouldn't even be on here but let's be honest Chelsea 2004-2006 still weren't as amazing as you make out. They did enough to win the PL but failed in Europe. Their defensive record looks good on paper but they were very defence minded so it's not surprising and they didn't blow many teams away despite spending shit loads.
So unless you are a very biased Chelsea fan it's strange to say Chelsea 04/05 and even add "no question"??
In reality they won the league & a mickey mouse cup. They have 1 record that still stands, 15 PL goals conceded but that's not enough to beat some of ManUtd's team's & ManCity 2018.
@@cddb5408 true bt even the invisibles were the same in the Ucl.. They couldn't beat Chelsea who didn't buy the players yet
@@DS-dw3pz They had bought a lot of expensive players actually. Abramovic came 2003 not 2004.
@@DS-dw3pz Besides, I never said the invincibles are as good as some say anyway. They definitely don't make the top4 and I don't even think they were better than ManUtd 93/94 who'd be lucky to get in the top5.
Sorry, but Chelsea was still overlooked far too much here, I think. You can’t miss a team that at one point had Terry, Lamps, Drogba, A.Cole, an inform Luiz, Eden hazard, Oscar, Cech and a handful of other world class players coming in and out of the club like Eto’o, And fillipe luiz and not be considered closer top the top. I’d say Man City right now.. the the only better squad.
Jesse Hitchcock
You've just listed players mostly played in different team's and the only time they a brief period of domination was 2004/05&2005/06 and most of those players you named were not in that team apart from Terry, Lampard & Drogba.
CD DB the only period of domination?? Are you blind. Look at the last 10 years alone. Admittedly. Not all played together in a single team. But the spine won us the champions league. I don’t see any of you guys getting anywhere close in many many years,, beside Liverpool, with the 1 hit wonder salah, came close.
People still forget that brilliant 16/17 season or even 14/15
@@shadeofquran lol probably because both seasons they followed them up with poor seasons failing to even qualify for the champions league (including 10th place in 15/16 and winning nothing).
When you look at how many other team's on this list won back-to-back PL title's and in ManUtd's case 3 in a row twice and 4 out of 5 on 3 separate occasions (93,94,96&97...99,00,01&03...07,08,09&2011)....and Chelsea couldn't even come close to retaining it those seasons (05/06 The only time they have retained a PL was actually the only time they ever looked like doing so) so they were weren't that great and I actually thought Spurs were the best team in 2016/17, scored more, conceded less, there were just a couple of turnarounds in games that swung points in Chelsea's favour, the 1-3 Chelsea win at the Etihad was a freak turnaround after DeBruyne missed from 3yards would've been 2-0. A head-to-head match with Spurs where Spurs were winning etc...Spurs won more games more comfortably than Chelsea but what it came down to was Chelsea had many more lucky results.
Also 14/15 was only Chelsea's 2nd PL title in 9 seasons and the only reason it wasn't their only 1 since 2005/06 was because they cheated to nick 2009/10. But they hadn't won many so you can't put them on there just because they concentrated on that competition more in 14/15 because it had been so long for a big spending team like Chelsea to not win the PL....but in 14/15 they were eliminated at home in the champions league to a team with a numerical disadvantage which is pretty poor in all honesty and its not the first time that's happened in the Chelski era....Many of ManUtd's champions league exits were unlucky and included them getting the red card and some harsh ones but not the other way round and still losing....at home.
Oscar.....hahahahahahahahahahaha
Now these guys are talking down about Arsenal's unbeaten 2003-04 season because they lost some games in the FA Cup and the Champions League. But the reason was none other than Fixture congestion, too small a squad, and Wenger wasn't good enough to choose wich games to throw away, and probably should have throw the Fa Cup.
20/03 Bolton-------------------------Nr 8------Premier League
24/03 Chelsea----------------------NR 2-----Champions League Quarter-finals
28/03 Manchester United----NR 3------Premier League
03/04 Manchester United-- NR 3------Fa Cup Semifinal
06/04 Chelsea---------------------NR 2------Champions League Quarter-finals
09/04 Liverpool--------------------NR 4------Premier League
11/04 - Newcastle-------------- NR 5------Premier League
16/04 Leeds-----------------------..NR 19----Premier League
Invincibles!!! Omg they were unreal
Arsenal invincible Henry berkamp pires viera lumberg Campbell and everyone else
invincibles
Lol no
Helll no, majority were draws
but we did not lose that entire season we went 42 matches unbeaten
Should've seen the delusion coming...
Invincibles easily the best,Chelsea were negative,United played fergy long ball and city just closed down.
That 1997-98 Arsenal team was incredible to win the double at that time awesome Wright is spot on Anelka and Bergkamp just out of this world the French boy at 17 was quite simply the best with Vieria,Parlour,Petit and Platt and famous back 5
They were about 6th at Christmas lol
banares hussain
And Anelka was 18/19 in the 1997/98 season not 17.
I've heard many say that with Cristiano in his first season at ManUtd that he was 17 lol when again he was 18/19.
id love to see united 08 team play citys 18 team that would be an awesome close game
Chelsea 04/05 >>> City 2017/18 all day... United fan
Wow so unexpected from a utd fan.
facts
That explains it.
Miles Chan don't forget 05/06
You're not a United Fan lol don't talk shit
The young reporter guy made this enjoyable . Very knowledgeable lad :)
He was a muppet
Fishko Vaysi a muppet they knew his shit :)
Henry and berkamp 😍
1. *Manchester United 2006-09*
The culmination of Alex Ferguson’s career at Manchester United. The manager drew on many of the disparate strands of his time at the club to arguably produce his greatest team.
First of all, Ferguson summoned his famed resolve to respond to Jose Mourinho’s raising of the bar. United unexpectedly dislodged Chelsea from the top of the Premier League with points hauls around the 90 mark.
To do that, his inherent sense of adventure had created the most prolific attacking trio Old Trafford had ever seen. The manner in which Wayne Rooney, Cristiano Ronaldo and Louis Saha/Carlos Tevez interchanged and exchanged positions also placed Ferguson as a tactical pioneer for the first time in his career.
But, by then, the acumen he had tortuously acquired over so many seasons in Europe helped set one of England’s meanest defences.
It all added up to a finely balanced team and - with three consecutive league titles, a Champions League as well another final - the most concentrated period of success in United’s history.
Ultimately, their span was ended by Spain. Real Madrid lured Cristiano Ronaldo away while Pep Guardiola’s Barcelona lifted continental football to another level with the 2-0 win in Rome.
Trophies won: Champions League 2008; Premier League 2007, 2008, 2009; League Cup 2009; Champions League runners-up 2009
Manager: Alex Ferguson
Best XI: Van der Sar; Brown, Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand; Hargreaves, Carrick, Giggs; Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo
2. *Manchester United 1998-01*
Whatever about the performance in the 1999 Champions League final itself, the injury-time crescendo was actually a fitting way for Manchester United to end that scarcely believable season. Over the 59 games of the three competitions they won, Alex Ferguson’s team scored 13 late winners - five of them in stoppage time. They also came from losing positions to win on 15 separate occasions. Both are records.
Evidently, this was a side with an awful lot of character. As assistant manager Steve McLaren said, “I don’t think this team ever loses. It just runs out of time.” It was a quality personified by Roy Keane and the core of youth graduates such as Paul Scholes, as well as complemented by a glorious sense of adventure. Ultimately, those attributes brought a unique treble, 97 league goals the following season, a then record points haul and only the English league’s fourth three-in-a-row.
But United were also offset by an inherent haphazardness that ensured reclaiming the Champions League was always hostage to fortune. They may have outfought all-comers but they also had the eternal capacity to be out-thought. Vicente Del Bosque said he was shocked by the side’s “tactical anarchy” as Real Madrid put them out at the quarter-finals in 1999-2000. Ferguson wouldn’t lift the Champions League again until he had learned and agonised over his lesson. In the meantime, a magnificent team blazed a trail all too briefly.
Trophies won: Champions League 1999; Premier League 1999, 2000, 2001; FA Cup 1999
Manager: Alex Ferguson
Best XI: Schmeichel; Neville, Irwin, Stam, Johnsen; Keane, Scholes, Beckham, Giggs, Yorke, Cole
3. *Chelsea 2004-07*
The best team never to win the Champions League? Chelsea’s points totals in 2004-05 and 2005-06 constitute the highest points-per-game averages in the history of the English game. The biggest compliment that can be paid to Mourinho is that, essentially, he ensured you dare not make more than one error if you had any notions of winning the league.
At times, Chelsea were utterly relentless. But, crucially, not invincible. For all of the highly personal battles that Mourinho won, he ultimately lost three times to his Bete Noirs in the competition he wanted most: twice in the Champions League semi-finals to Rafa Benitez, once in the last 16 to Barcelona. All in acrimonious circumstances.
That, of course, is exactly how you could describe Mourinho’s departure. It may have provided some vindication that they got to the final later that season. But Chelsea’s failure to win the Champions League still stands against an otherwise intimidating team.
Trophies won: Premier League 2005, 2006; FA Cup 2007; English league cup 2005, 2007
Manager: Jose Mourinho
Best XI: Cech; Ferreira, Gallas, Carvalho, Terry; Makelele, Lampard, Essien; Robben, Duff, Drogba
4. *Arsenal 2001-05*
Always irresistible, sometimes incisive and - for a season - invincible. Arsenal’s unbeaten 2003-04 campaign ensures their place in history, with the difficulty of that feat a perfect complement to the occasionally unbelievable angles of their passing. It was also Arsene Wenger’s undoubted career high-point. Appropriately though, it emphasised his extremes as a manager too. For a start, the team’s cycle was bookended by two very contrasting summers. In 2001, Wenger embarked on an untypical spending spree. In 2005, Patrick Vieira departed while complaining of a dearth of world-class signings.
In between, Arsenal’s exquisite football regularly reached that status - most of all Thierry Henry. They were particularly brilliant in the 2001-02 run-in that secured a double as well as the start of the 2002-03 campaign, with the team’s own climax coming in the 5-1 win at Inter Milan in the 2003-04 Champions League. That should have signalled a successful assault on the Champions League. Instead, it only highlights the greatest mark against them: that nucleus of players never got beyond the quarter-finals.
What’s worse, they were eliminated by a team they had routinely dismissed at home. Throughout the 2003-04 campaign, Arsenal had beaten Chelsea 2-1 three times across the league and FA Cup. At Highbury and in the competition that has always eluded Wenger, however, they were undone by that same score. And that failure to beat an English team again spoke of another major flaw: they never retained the title.
A divine team, but never a truly dominant one.
Trophies won: Premier League 2002, 2004; FA Cup 2002, 2003, 2005
Manager: Arsene Wenger
Best XI: Lehmann; Lauren, Cole, Campbell, Toure; Gilberto, Vieira, Ljungberg, Pires; Bergkamp, Henry
When did West Ham sign Gabby?
Jesus you just know Miguel sat in his bed memorising facts and practicing what to say
I wouldn't expect anything different...GGMU❤
What I would give to see United and Arsenal to come back to dominant forms...the rivalry was on another level...
They are acting like Arsenal were invincible in 2003/04 by having 70 odd points, they had 90 points at the end of the campaign
Did we lose a game? No that’s the important thing, nobody till date has gone unbeaten
@@Noname-kq6jm okay.
@@Noname-kq6jm He wasn't belittling it, he was saying Miguel was, the guy in the video.
I do also think they were overrated though.
CD DB maybe they are overrated, i heard that we could have won the cl that season but wenger put all energy into the unbeaten streak which is sad because i want a ucl
@@Noname-kq6jm
To be honest you can't even give him the excuse of focussing more in other competitions for 2 main reasons
(1) Wenger had such a poor Champions league record in general (Just 2 semi-finals he reached with Arsenal in 19 Champions league seasons, 2005/06 & 2008/09, the latter they clearly shouldn't have been there and were completely humiliated).
(2) Arsenal didn't play weakened team's in those ChampionsLeague games they took the games seriously they just failed.
Also they were lucky to even make it through the group stage in 2003/04. They were just 2 minutes away from being eliminated in group game 4 of 6. It's not like they lit the tournament up and were just extremely unlucky not to win it or they were eliminated controversially. The first ChampionsLeague game they played that season they got thrashed at home 0-3.
Trust me ManUtd are the team who should be the most annoyed about not winning Champions league 2003/04, they were robbed vs the eventual winners and the route they would've had from QF to final was as winnable as you're likely to get in the competition. Hence why Porto went on to win it. If Arsenal were that great they would've at least played Porto in the final and Chelsea didn't even get to the final after eliminating Arsenal they lost to Monaco.
End this debate right now!.Its Utd's Treble Winning team of 98/99.
its the invincibles
@@kumarchandresh4044 lol you think it's a team who not only never won the champions league but had lost the PL the previous season (2002/03) then won it with 90points but then lost the title the next season again and in actual fact never won it since.
Rather than a team who won the PL, FAcup & Champions league in 1999, then got 91 points the following season and RETAINED it in 2000 winning it by a record PL points margin which stood for 18 years and an amount Arsenal have never won by (18pts) then won a 3rd PL in a row in 2001, also at a canter. Not to mention most of those players had also won back to back PL's in 1995/96 & 1996/97 including the FAcup in 96...And some were also involved in the 1992/93 PL title win and 1993/94 PL & FAcup win.
20 TIMES Nah man city 17/18
@@kumarchandresh4044 There is a VERY strong case for them. But when you have a hardened die-hard Gunner like Wright who played against and watched first-hand what the United treble winners did - and readily admits to their prowess - you have to admit he's one of the few who knows what he's talking about.
Have to agree with Miguel here Man Utd 07-08 for me. With all things put into perspective like stats, strength of the compitetion faced (Domestically & in Europe). They won 3 PL titles back to back, back to back CL finals (winning one). The league was also tough at the time cause some would argue that that was the beginning of the emergence of a top 6 rather than a top 4. In the end the 99 team's weaknesses were there greatest strength, they put themselves in those situations. However like he said though they weren't as polished and good overall as the 08 team. From best to worst for me it goes;
1) Man Utd 07-08
2) Man City 17-18
3) Man Utd 98-99
4) Chelsea 04-05
5) Arsenal 03-04
6) Arsenal 97-98
7) Man Utd 94-95
8) Chelsea 09-10
I disagree on the first 2 spots. I think that City 17/18 should be at the top, not just for having achieved 100 points, but for the flawless football they played. They made it look a bit too easy.
@@thuo1000 Their flawless football didn't win them CL tho. The untied team got to CL finals back to back and won PL 3 times back to back, look at the teams they played against in Europe those 2 years. Are you kidding me?!? Even their final vs Barca was a close game for the most part. City 17/18 team barely had any competition.
@@perma4702 City will win the CL under Guardiola. Also I appreciate good football and City play beautiful football under Pep. They have won back to back epl titles playing some amazing football. Yes, Pep hasn't yet won the CL with City, but that doesn't mean he won't win it. Like I said, I'm a man that appreciates good entertaining football and Guardiola's teams are just entertaining to watch.
My favourite team to watch team to watch was 2004 invincibles, but I'd have to give it to 1999 Man U team.
Bro man city should not even be discussed about. Are they a team don't compare dem wid man u ND arsenal as well as Liverpool nd Chelsea.
Wanker
JABRA SAID dumbest comment
As if Liverpool won the league😂😂😂😂😂
Yes , 100 pts..end of debate
Liverpool haha they are shit it the prem City are miles and miles ahead of them
United's treble winning season no doubt
Fair enough
Wow, each 3 united side 93/94, 98/99 & 07/08 scored exactly 80 goals
As a Chelsea fan am just here to see these fools discredit my team like they always do
Same
Yep smh
Its because everyone hates Chelsea
Because you’re not as good as united or arsenal in the prem era and are just a milwall that won the lottery with abramovic except you’re more racist
Al O98 so, we whip y’alls ass now
Chelsea 14/15, 16/17 team was just dominant
Chelshit?
goku go to school kid
@@hermonhazard5851 where's your best player? lmao, obviously gone.
@An
What when they came 10th inbetween those seasons?
Also although either of those teams are more worthy to be on the shortlist than 2009/10 which shouldn't be on here, the 2014/15 team had a numerical advantage for NINETY minutes AT HOME vs Psg in the champions league last 16 and still failed to progress!
AND they lost 2-4 in the FAcup AT HOME to 3rd tier Bradford!
@@cddb5408 you do realise you’ve mentioned FA Cup and CL, this team is premier league based only, we shouldn’t factor in outside competition. But I do hear you.
Centurions
I think because when you won so many trophies,break the record,teams who have world class,talent players.Arsenal,Chelsea, Liverpool,Manchester clubs are up there,they’ve showed in the past to creat history,make this happen. I think everybody forgets how Blackburn Rovers,Leicester City who ever fantastic to achieve for something that wouldn’t be possible but they did it.I hope Tottenham,Everton and other teams can win in the premier league in the future which will be an another historic moment.
Hahahaha in the end they all chose the 98/99 side!
Man Utd.... the Treble team
Another interesting point would be to debate which of these title-winning teams would win in a head-to-head match!
Rich Homie
No, that would be guesses, people are making their judgment in this debate based on things that actually happened.
1). Man Utd Treble. 2). Arsenal Invincibles. 3). Man City 100 points