The original EDP Wasp had digital oscillators and noise, but the rest is analog. I bought one IN 1981 and still have most of it 😊 I love how fizzy it sounds. I got the Behringer Wasp and was delighted to find it's a great copy and captures the sound very well.
I recently discovered the original Wasp on an obscure German recording, "Es Herrscht Uhu Im Land", from 1981. The second track has this synth near the beginning, and sounds wonderful. The pianist/sax player is credited. Had to find out more about it, and lo and behold Behringer has made a clone for not a lot of money. One thing that may improve your videos in future is to have a small window on screen showing what your hands are doing. Otherwise, very helpful and entertaining. PS I have trouble saying the word 'digital' as well.
The control envelope takes a bit of figuring out, I had to really mess with it for a couple of hours to get it to do what I wanted. The first knob gives an amount either negative or positive amount on how much the control osc effects the filter envelope shape and the attack and decay choose the time the filter takes to effect the signal. And finally the delay is a LFO of sorts that effects the control envelope speed, and the repeat setting is retrigger.... as best as I could figure out anyway. As you said there's bugger all in the manual.
It is a sweet little synth. It will go out of production in a few years and these things will go for 2-3 times the list price ten years after that . . . The filter is sweet. Thanks for running the clavichord patch through it. I guess I will have to try my Rhodes through mine. The B. Cat is also very cool synth. It is very simple to tweak, but produces harmonically warm, rich sounds. I like it much better than my Roland SE 01 module, which does sounds as warm and is cheaply built, but does allow saving of presets.
I doubt behringer will let this kinda thing happen. If they see that their discontinued product starts to get popular on the used market they re-release it. So at least we may sleep well knowing that it will be available for a long time :D
@@januszbujnowski5870 I have never seen Behringer rerelease a discontinued product. They did a clone of the EH Memory Man pedal 6-7 years ago and it now fetches over double what it cost new on the second hand market but they never re-released it.
Nice overview. Came across a good price on a used one and was looking more into it. One thing on the envelope, if you’re pressing a key and not holding it down, sustain isn’t a thing because the note isn’t sustained before release kicks in. That’s typically the volume level that it drops to when you’re holding a key down after the attack and decay ramp times. The signal attacks to full level and decays to the sustain level based on the speeds you set. So it looks more like the decay controls decay and release, unless I’m misinterpreting how you were using the midi controller.
it's weakness is zero support for pitchbend and mod wheel over midi or cv. It would have helped it. Even just having a cv input for those 2 parameters would have made me happy. It's not bad as it is for the price but those limitations are really annoying. Also the app that comes with the settings lack sysex for setting the pitch bend range which seems stupid because the trigger modes and other sysex instructions are supported there. It should be covering all the bases. The one great feature is it's noise generator, it sounds like a sid chip and I've made some great hi hats and snares with it.
Hate to be a pedant. But it wasn’t available until summer 1979. I remember waiting and waiting for it to be available as it was the only thing I could afford. I must go and through my old copies of Sounds and NME and see when they started advertising it. But yeh, maybe like Behringer today, you couldn’t actually get hold of one before July/August 79.
What you say is not correct. Synths in the 1970-80's weren't cheap. They were quite expensive. For example, an SH-101 cost $495 in 1983 that is equivalent of $1475 now. If you consider that the average income in 1983 was about $1,200 a month.
@@DanBakerMusic I see, but don't forget many synths come with a 4 or 5 octave keyboard. And many synths with just 2 or 3 octaves, or any rackmount synth, can have a midi keyboard plugged into it for a full ranging keyboard. You should never expect anything less than 5 octaves from a synth. Anyway thanks for the review.
1. warm up? this oscillators are DIGITAL and don´t need warm up time at all. And for the rest of the synth you don´t need warm up for a filter or amp. 2. triangle? this is a sawtooth wave. I lost count of how many times you call it triangle. 3. great way to show how the waveforms sounds while you have the cutoff half opened. 4. "chorusy"? this is actually PWM I stopped watching this video around 5:00, terrible...
Oh well. Never mind. I did put a correction in the description saying that I meant sawtooth. I do understand the difference. With respect to warming up, it actually says this in the manual, and I’ve noticed pitch settling (I have perfect pitch). Waveforms sound different regardless of how open the filter is. I also understand Pulse Width Modulation, but said it sounded chorusy as that’s what it sounds like to me. If you made it to 5:00, then it sounds like you’ve nothing better to do than have a pop at a video. Still, I’m a musician who has used it many times since I bought it. That’s the point really...
@@DanBakerMusic Don't bother, that's got to be one of the most ungrateful comments I've seen in a while. I just discovered your channel, and I think you're such a talented teacher. Watched the whole thing on the Quadraverb, loved it! You make it sound so easy to navigate the unit, and you're good company. Keep it up!
Great video Dan, ignore the knob - some people only think they are happy when they are correcting people. It's kinda sad. This is the video that convinced me to get a Wasp, so nice work!
Great synth. Better if you can find some space in a standard rack. These rack ears will do the trick: reverb.com/ca/item/43066930-aluminum-behringer-model-d-wasp-cat-19-rack-ears-70hp-eurorack-chassis
The more I watch this guy the more I like him. Fantastic style and delivery and his voice is so easy to listen to. Kind of medicine for your ears.
literal laugh out-loud moment as you started to play the opening bars of move it... "quite enough of that...": LOL
Great teacher showing a nice Synth, makes it a better Synth ! 🙃✅👍🏻✌🏻
this synth is good without teacher !
@@hansmuller1980 Guess you need to read my message better.
The clav bit settled it for me…buying this synth!
The original EDP Wasp had digital oscillators and noise, but the rest is analog. I bought one IN 1981 and still have most of it 😊
I love how fizzy it sounds. I got the Behringer Wasp and was delighted to find it's a great copy and captures the sound very well.
Always enjoy your offerings Dan, especially as they cross the decades.
(Quiet note, Don’t confuse your sawtooth with triangle)
It was a bit of a slip, that...there’s a definite difference between the two waves...
My own wasp 😀🤘 good info video !
Great video, wasp sounds really good, always enjoyed the the baker bros gigs in bournemouth in the early 00s spesh the Grange Hill theme
Great video for a criminally underated Behringer product. Thank you
I recently discovered the original Wasp on an obscure German recording, "Es Herrscht Uhu Im Land", from 1981. The second track has this synth near the beginning, and sounds wonderful.
The pianist/sax player is credited. Had to find out more about it, and lo and behold Behringer has made a clone for not a lot of money.
One thing that may improve your videos in future is to have a small window on screen showing what your hands are doing.
Otherwise, very helpful and entertaining.
PS I have trouble saying the word 'digital' as well.
Just bought one, but waiting on delivery. Can't wait, so thought I'd check a few vids about it. Very nice overview of the device. Thanks Dan 🙂
Did you like it once you got it?
Great stuff, you talked me into it...
Great video. Great sounds.
The osc section is digital. Only the filter is analog. No warm up needed.
The control envelope takes a bit of figuring out, I had to really mess with it for a couple of hours to get it to do what I wanted. The first knob gives an amount either negative or positive amount on how much the control osc effects the filter envelope shape and the attack and decay choose the time the filter takes to effect the signal. And finally the delay is a LFO of sorts that effects the control envelope speed, and the repeat setting is retrigger.... as best as I could figure out anyway.
As you said there's bugger all in the manual.
It is a sweet little synth. It will go out of production in a few years and these things will go for 2-3 times the list price ten years after that . . . The filter is sweet. Thanks for running the clavichord patch through it. I guess I will have to try my Rhodes through mine.
The B. Cat is also very cool synth. It is very simple to tweak, but produces harmonically warm, rich sounds. I like it much better than my Roland SE 01 module, which does sounds as warm and is cheaply built, but does allow saving of presets.
I work with the Cat and yes its a very good one . I love the unique sound from it .
@@ChromosomeSyndicate I would to see a poly Cat
I doubt behringer will let this kinda thing happen. If they see that their discontinued product starts to get popular on the used market they re-release it. So at least we may sleep well knowing that it will be available for a long time :D
@@januszbujnowski5870 I have never seen Behringer rerelease a discontinued product. They did a clone of the EH Memory Man pedal 6-7 years ago and it now fetches over double what it cost new on the second hand market but they never re-released it.
Another excellent video. Keep up the great work, and hello from Ohio! :o)
Very usefull. 🎉 Tank you 🙏🙏🙏
Guitarists move their mouth, so it is normal =) Thanks fo a awesome session, Love cheers
4:06: I like to move it 😎
Definitely it worth the money 👍
Excellent review, i suscribed! 😃👍
Price of Wasp in 1981: £199. Price of Wasp in 2021: £199 (if you shop around..). Amazing.
2023: £135.00
My favourite review of this. It's so powerful and I love mine. Only thing not mentioned is the double trigger issue. There's an easy fix though
I’ve not had that problem with mine..
Thanks for watching!
How did you fix it Andy?
I also open my mouth when I turn the filter !
Nice overview. Came across a good price on a used one and was looking more into it. One thing on the envelope, if you’re pressing a key and not holding it down, sustain isn’t a thing because the note isn’t sustained before release kicks in. That’s typically the volume level that it drops to when you’re holding a key down after the attack and decay ramp times. The signal attacks to full level and decays to the sustain level based on the speeds you set.
So it looks more like the decay controls decay and release, unless I’m misinterpreting how you were using the midi controller.
Yes the Behringer Wasp envelope controls don’t quite do what one would expect, but what a great sounding machine!
Great review Dan, thanks a million for posting it
it's weakness is zero support for pitchbend and mod wheel over midi or cv. It would have helped it. Even just having a cv input for those 2 parameters would have made me happy. It's not bad as it is for the price but those limitations are really annoying. Also the app that comes with the settings lack sysex for setting the pitch bend range which seems stupid because the trigger modes and other sysex instructions are supported there. It should be covering all the bases. The one great feature is it's noise generator, it sounds like a sid chip and I've made some great hi hats and snares with it.
early 90s goa sound in a sweet package
Hate to be a pedant. But it wasn’t available until summer 1979. I remember waiting and waiting for it to be available as it was the only thing I could afford. I must go and through my old copies of Sounds and NME and see when they started advertising it. But yeh, maybe like Behringer today, you couldn’t actually get hold of one before July/August 79.
Best explanation of this for a NON synth understanding person like myself. T’anx!
Box go bzzzzzz
Thanks for this what keyboard did you use with this
Around 9:15 turn the FREQ knob down to slow it down....
omg I traded mine just yesterday and already regret it :/ it's really one of the best-sounding B clones out there.
Evelope generators...can the repeat function sync to midi?
Robert Rental used the Wasp
The triangle sounds like a sawtooth, is it?
Yes it is: I mistakenly used the wrong term in my video…
Was the resonance partly up throughout the review? Even the triangle wave by itself has a nasal quality
Facts
Poly or mono? Duo phonique ?
4:45 Very Stevie Wonder there :)
What you say is not correct. Synths in the 1970-80's weren't cheap. They were quite expensive. For example, an SH-101 cost $495 in 1983 that is equivalent of $1475 now. If you consider that the average income in 1983 was about $1,200 a month.
The oscillators were in fact digital so they didn’t need 'warming up'.
It’s odd that the instruction manual should mention the warming up procedure!
the Wasp has dual DCO's but a purely analog signal path making it one of the first hybrid synths on the market
Square wave
Saw wave
Triangle wave
Pulse wave
Monophonic
Don't they all sound alike?
this is because he plays all them with the filter half closed
It's sawtooth, not a triangle. :)
Yes totally-my mistake and I very much understand the difference between the two!
Yeah triangle -12dB, sawtooth -6dB/octave 😎
Why did you say 3 octaves is what you'd expect from a synthesizer ? Sorry but that statement just isn't correct.
Playable octaves at once. Of course the octave can be selected by adjusting between 32,16,7,4,2,1 on the oscillator switches...
@@DanBakerMusic I see, but don't forget many synths come with a 4 or 5 octave keyboard. And many synths with just 2 or 3 octaves, or any rackmount synth, can have a midi keyboard plugged into it for a full ranging keyboard. You should never expect anything less than 5 octaves from a synth.
Anyway thanks for the review.
Honestly when I hear someone smacks their mouth I immediately turn the video off.
1. warm up? this oscillators are DIGITAL and don´t need warm up time at all. And for the rest of the synth you don´t need warm up for a filter or amp.
2. triangle? this is a sawtooth wave. I lost count of how many times you call it triangle.
3. great way to show how the waveforms sounds while you have the cutoff half opened.
4. "chorusy"? this is actually PWM
I stopped watching this video around 5:00, terrible...
Oh well. Never mind. I did put a correction in the description saying that I meant sawtooth. I do understand the difference. With respect to warming up, it actually says this in the manual, and I’ve noticed pitch settling (I have perfect pitch). Waveforms sound different regardless of how open the filter is. I also understand Pulse Width Modulation, but said it sounded chorusy as that’s what it sounds like to me. If you made it to 5:00, then it sounds like you’ve nothing better to do than have a pop at a video. Still, I’m a musician who has used it many times since I bought it. That’s the point really...
@@DanBakerMusic Don't bother, that's got to be one of the most ungrateful comments I've seen in a while. I just discovered your channel, and I think you're such a talented teacher. Watched the whole thing on the Quadraverb, loved it! You make it sound so easy to navigate the unit, and you're good company. Keep it up!
Great video Dan, ignore the knob - some people only think they are happy when they are correcting people. It's kinda sad. This is the video that convinced me to get a Wasp, so nice work!
@@arsebiscuitsandwine sad is the fact that you can´t stand reading accurate information but encourage people who spread misinformation
@@djestrella_ oh... yes... let´s talk nicely and let people says stupid things on youtube so other people learn badly. Pathetic
Great synth. Better if you can find some space in a standard rack. These rack ears will do the trick: reverb.com/ca/item/43066930-aluminum-behringer-model-d-wasp-cat-19-rack-ears-70hp-eurorack-chassis