Chocolate-Box Girl - weevildoing ft. Kagamine Rin V4X ENG (鏡音リン)
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
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"you told me i was special, that i was one in a million but i was just one in four, according to the statistics" we are starting off strong.
most traumatic cake baking tutorial I’ve ever watched
yk i think its really interesting how chocolate box girl is on the chubbier side compared to the others, because it made me think of parallels between society’s reaction to fat people and victims of s/a. being told “it’s your fault, if you ate less/didnt dress so revealing/formed better habits you wouldn’t be this way” as if people are always in control of what happens to their bodies
also there aren’t a lot of fatter characters in vocalsynth songs so having her be plus sized is rly nice :-)
I love that someone said this, because I saw it too, and I saw as well a connection to the "early puberty" plus-sized girls go through, how they're weirdly sexualized and yet undesirable at the same time, both of these adding to the ease of exploitation. "Feminine" features are seen to a lot of times just be fat features (fat hips, fat chest, etc.) and yet at the same time, fat feminine people are seen as undesirable by many beauty standards.
I hope you don't mind me adding onto your thought with this one.
@@LilyCelebiFlipnote i don’t mind at all!! i think this insight is valuable and interesting :0
OH YES YES THIS ENTIRELY this is exactly how i felt
also, a lot of people who are victims of sexual assault develop EDs, and some survivors find weight gain to provide a sense of security either physically or as a way to try and become less attractive to potential predators and avoid unwanted attention. (though as we all know, this isn't necessarily effective)
this can all also happen the other way around. but there is a significant link between obesity/weight gain and sexual trauma.
regardless, sexual trauma and body image are inseparable, and i really love that towne clearly puts so much thought into their characters and what they represent for people.
edit: not saying weight gain is necessarily bad of course, just adding to the convo with some interesting but sad statistics. Chocolate-Box Girl is beautiful
Ohhh I thought it was thinking because some men have fat fetishes (or something like that I'm not a huge fan of the fetish side of the internet so I'm not sure if that's what it's called)
Teory for the "dove" symbolism- Dead Dove in fan fiction can be a trigger warning for general messed up shit. It is right before the line "the canary in the coal mine", something miners used to warn them of carbon monoxide levels. Perhaps this abuser first got to know Chocolate Box Girl online, bonding over "dead dove" fan fiction. Note also the use of questeble anime footage in the back and the line "its all fictional right", it makes me think the abuser used pedophilic media in the grooming process. The abuser might have been into "loli" content and dead dove fan fiction, something that Chocolate Box Girl thinks should have been a clear warning sign.
exactly what I was thinking!!
That makes some sense, although I personally considered the dove a representation of innocence.
Just one thing - "Dead dove" is not a trigger warning in itself, nor is it a genre of fanfic. It's a reference to a scene in Arrested Development where Michael looks into a bag labeled "Dead dove do not eat" and says "well, I don't know what I expected". the tag is used in conjunction with other tags as a way to say "this is exactly what it says on the tin, don't read if you don't like the tags, you've been warned". it's not always used for problematic stuff, just things that could make anyone uncomfortable.
Good theory!
i think it might also involve how doves are a symbol of innocence/purity?
Im not seeing many people talk about the way the character is chubby. This isnt anything bad, but id like to explain from both my own perspective and the perspective of other chubby people Ive met.
A lot of chubby people, girls and women especially, who are self concsious have had bad relationships because they feel as though all that matters is that somebody wants them, even if they know that that person is much older or disgusting. A lot of these girls force themselves to carry on the relationship by the thought process that "they should be 'grateful' someone even likes them".
I feel like this is important to the analysis of this song, and im actually a bit surprised nobody was talking about this, because this song is perfect representation for the traumas the fat community of younger girls or women who have experienced this in the past.
Theres A LOT of fat girls who especially at such a young age experienced this exact situation. Im not a girl myself, but i have experienced things similar to this, and also girlhood in general, and ive had a lot of communication with chubby girls i knew.
yeah as a fat trans guy ive had people fetishize me for being very slightly chubby (at the time) AT TWELVE. its so sickening to think about
@@whiteglovian THAT TOO! I was mainly talking abt creeps just being creeps and how a lot of chubby ppl force themselves to stay bc they feel its their only shot, but thats another thing that this song can definitely capture the feeling of.
@@pinesthereposteryeah, i get you. this song definitely hits hard, weevil did a great job
Good point! Also, wish the best to all of ya’ll❤
As a skinny flat chest girl, I hate it when it happens tho, idk what to say.
god this character looks so fucking sweet its gonna be awful seeing her go through terrible shit :[ this is like psychological torture knowing that shes gonna get hurt im so emotionally attached to her already you cant do this to me
anyways!!!! new weevildoing banger!!!!!!! (sobbing shaking crying)
this is so real, i always get attached to their characters :'[ (also talald pfp.... /pos)
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The way it bounces from blaming himself to blaming its abusers.. idk its really relatable
It’s a good thing, in a way
You deserve to recognise it wasn’t any of your fault
its a "her" but ok
@official-IL_ his profile on the post traumatic manifesto carrd has pronouns listed as it/him/she. So dw it's not a mispelling
oh... okay
The use of hachikuji from monogatari and all these other "loli" characters is so disturbing and impactful. The way I used to represent myself online with those characters also makes me very uncomfortable in retrospect. Society's treatment of young women and frankly all children, is disgusting. I wish we could have more adults with good intentions and true care for the young developing minds around them.
And that's just what I'm thinking from visual and sound alone, let me dig into these fucking lyrics and cry hold up.
"The role i was assigned, The hunger in your eyes" I'm crying bruh i can't deal this one is so close to home it's not even funny.
Lovely and heart wrenching work once again weevil. Thank you for seeing us and being yourself.
My thoughts exactly, I was so obsessed with this media as a child, and it never hit me how it was subtley brainwashing me into normalizing sexualization of my underaged self. It's upsetting how deep the rabbit hole of media victimizing women goes.
the one specific character from dragon maid being there is especially fitting because the creator of that actively admitted to being attracted to children.
@cheyannegiles9772 I was absolutely obsessed with that anime when I was younger. The character shown in the mv was my favorite (because of course she had a cutesie design). Processing it as an adult, it was obvious that many scenes were completely inappropriate and showcased the creators... strangeness, to say the least. Not to mention the character designs. Never knew the creator actually admitted to that, but I'm not surprised.
@@cheyannegiles9772 where can I see him admitting it to it?
Take care❤
Something i love about the character design is that despite her being an adult, her outfit very much resembles a child's outfit, just with aspects of maturity.
The boxy look with the poofy dress 100% reminds me of stuff like those unicorn dresses some little kids have sometimes, yet she has boots that i dont think id see a kid wear, the bow-looking part of the bodice feels more like something id see on an adult dress, etc etc.
I think its pretty good symbolism honestly. They don't care how you look. They don't care if you dress your age (a literal child), they will hurt you.
Also experiences like these tend to force you to grow up quicker, so you may be constantly trying to go back to your inner child, which i definitely see in her just based on her outfit
First we get pitter patter, then butchers vanity, then don't lose your head, then language of the lost, then the whole daemon/doll album, now chocolate box girl with a new deer themed girl on the way, we eating good
What's the deer girl thing? Im a fan of vane lily so I've heard the first things, but if the deer girl is from weevil I'll be double exited
@@ramrose4111 Yeah there's a dear girl in development
@@ramrose4111 yeah she's from weevil, her name is apparently Taxidermy girl?
dont forget dont lose your head!!!
@@Charles-qx6yzWOAH. THAT NAME
The symbolism of food for the different nuances of child sexual assault and emotional abuse is just impeccable, I have never experienced these things myself but the chocolate box metaphor just makes me ache for this girl. I am also curious about the bird symbolism, I will have to listen again to decipher it! Thank you for yet another masterpiece!!
“Canary in the coal mine” is something forewarning danger, doves represent love and peace
Mines are dangerous for the fumes they have that can't be picked up by humans, so often miners would bring in canaries because they were hypersensitive to changes in the air. If the canary started acting weird, it was best to get out of there. If the canary was dead in its cage, you probably already have mental damage.
Essentially, the symbolism of a canary being the first to die as a way of warning others of danger was used in a way to say the canary didn't ask to be used as an example. A dove is used often as a symbol of innocence for its white color, but mostly as a sign of new or flourishing life. Basically new life which was snuffed out as a kind of inhuman sacrifice I think.
I also feel like the food symbolism could represent purity culture even tho its not explicitly stated in the song
i should also add, binge eating disorder is most prevalent in people who were csa victims, if memory serves.
i should know, both are true for me
Seeing as there's also a heavy emphasis on the false "fiction doesn't affect reality" narrative abusers/abuse excusers often push (with the obv lines abt fiction + the 'loli' anime in the bg), the dove might also be a reference to "Dead dove, do not eat". Iirc that includes all 'problematic' relationships in fiction and is often used as a tag on pretty nasty stories, which often do not shy away from csa. (Sorry for all the quotations, I'd use diff words personally but those are the most common terms used.)
one thing i noticed around 1:45 is how the song says ''im all you fantasized, desires come to life'' JUST as the character starts lifting up their skirt. Every watch of this video brings chills down my spine.
Edit: ive seen that other visuals in this video also feel kinda intentional, like how in 2:51 it shows a very concerning anime scene (i dont know the context to it so it looks VERY bad to me) and just when it says ''i fucking hate your guts'', it shows the ''man'' or ''monster'' that the girl is approaching. also how in 1:50 it shows a girl rubbing a microphone in a VERY weird way. i love the detail put into this video so much
The scene at 2:51 is from an anime called Wonder Egg Priority! Never finished the anime myself but it goes into a lot of various traumas that young girls face, and the scene itself (if I remember correctly) is from an episode where a girl faces her trauma of being assaulted by a family member- but that’s just what I remember because it’s been a while since I’ve seen WEP!
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as a victim of being groomed at a young age and growing up way faster because of it, but also still being stuck in the same mentality and all from the time too this really hit hard… like a lot of people already said, you really do portray the trauma of all this gals in an extremely tasteful and deep way. I’ve been a huge fan of this project since around Fainéant Girl dropped. Really. Bravo to you! And honestly, the visuals of a lot of anime with. interesting depictions of its kid female characters rlly adds another vibe and layer to the song… In conclusion, this is another certified banger on The Post Traumatic Manifesto
I wish to you a good recovery, and a great support system
1:21 the cake in the background during this specific scene feels weirdly significant. I'm not sure if u or the person making the cake even meant to do this, but after they touch the top part, trying to readjust it, there's a crack in the dough of the cake . and then they cover up the crack with icing. this might be the matpat in me but i feel like it's another metaphor for the abuse the character in this song endured
Oh I didn’t notice! And yes, for suren
I noticed that too and am very curious about whether it was intentional. I felt a sense of dread when I saw it 😢
i haven’t seen any comments on this, so i just wanted to add that the anime clips you put in the background are so haunting in this light… it really puts things into perspective, in my opinion. not bashing anime at all- i love anime, and this doesn’t apply to the medium as a whole- but i’ve found that in many cases, people tend to ignore the oppression and abuse it perpetuates in a general sense in popular culture, maybe because that’s “just the way it is” to them. but i’ve found that it fetishizes girls’ happiness, their sadness, their anger, confusion, injury, love, hate, youth, naïveté, lack of ability to consent… literally every aspect of their existence and experience as humans, and the messages we see in media *don’t* just stay there. they can translate into the way one views and treat women, or even oneself as a woman. it’s powerful stuff, and i absolutely believe it contributes to the endangerment of women and children across cultures to some extent. this isn’t specific to anime of course, but i almost feel like anime gets a pass for this for some reason. it feels like a wicked problem in a way, but i think acknowledging this more often is helpful.
sorry for the rant! tl;dr, i really appreciate that aspect of the video. i love this song, amazing work:) ❤
EXACTLY
YES! :(
i definitely agree!
ouughhh this song is so good so so good...i have so much to say about it so be forewarned bc i'm gonna delve into topics of grooming in this comment ///
the thing that absolutely KILLS me about her story and also the thing i had to learn about my own sexual trauma is that, oftentimes, confusion is the primary response that groomers want to elicit out of a victim...it's easy to act on emotions if they're clear, emotions exist to motivate action in some way, to interact with your environment, but it's more difficult to do that if you're not sure what it is you're feeling or why. groomers and abusers will intentionally blur lines and muddy boundaries, because that makes it easier to take advantage of their victims. they WANT you to be confused, to doubt, to sit and fret and wonder if what they did is or isn't wrong, because you're less likely to draw a conclusion that way, and, more importantly, it makes it more likely that the conclusion you draw won't be motivating enough to get you away from them. They take advantage of preconceived notions of what it means to be a victim, so they can victimize you easier.
things get more complicated when you consider that forgetting or repressing traumatic events is, in itself, a trauma response. these are all things that make trauma survivors an especially vulnerable population. it's such an awful thing to think about, but it's also an important part in the story of people's lives...this song and this story is so beautiful
oh god that makes so much more sense
Hope you’re doing a little better now, I believe in you❤
"Too soon to grow up" THAT, THAT HIT ME TOO HARD IBDNDJDJD I AM GOING TO CRYBDHDHDHDJD
You can vent if you want❤
It’s more then okay crying.
Btw, love the epithet erase Molly pfp!
The aggressive and fast paced instrumental rly captures the feeling of being made to grow up too soon. I love how the lyrics go from self blame to hating the perpetrator. And that “my god who else did you corrupt?!” near the end made me want to sob.. too real… incredible song and mv!!! I love TPTM !!!!
I first listened to this song the day it came out. It was one of the dominoes in a series of events that lead me to realize exactly what was happening to me.
While my situation wasn't exactly the same, the tactics used to get me into it were the same. The use of fiction. Telling me that I was loved.
I probably would've still realized it was unhealthy around this time, but I don't think I would have realized just how severe it was. Thank you.
I hope you’re in a better place now❤❤
Oh my god this is my first listen through of the song and I’m so emotional.
You capture your characters traumas and emotions so accurately and so painfully, the visuals you use are all so good.
Thank you for creating music, I’m excited to see where this album goes from here. Each trauma you choose to speak on is so unique, and you never make the victims seem ‘pitful’, it really means a lot to me.
The “I fucking hate your guts” line means so much to me. Hearing a victim get angry and swear (Because a lot of the times people are chosen for being “naive”/ “innocent”) was so vindictive.
"the canary in the mine, it was a dove this time; a worthy sacrifice" god thats genius
i dont understand that line .. cld u explain it ?
@@sugarcubeswirly canaries were used by miners to warn them of rising carbon monoxide levels in the mines (i.e. if the canary drops dead, they have to get out the mines) and doves are commonly used as symbols for purity. How I interpret the line is that when it comes to children (especially little girls) being SAed, it's treated as "an unfortunate fact about life. So in regards to Chocolate-box girl, I imagine that her abuse was treated as "an unfortunate means" to catch a predator
@sugarcubeswirly canaries were used in mines way back in the day in order to warn the workers about how dangerous the fumes were, and since the canary was replaced by a dove, it essentially means that chocolate box girl sacrificed it's/his innocence when they were with their abuser while also referencing the dead dove fanfiction it's abuser exposed him to.
@@Feline_Philosophy123 o ok ty
I’m kinda just coming to terms with the fact I was groomed by someone who pretended be 13 but was actually 17 when I was 10 in 2020. I always tried to make excuses or explanations for the person (and others) who hurt me in that way. these songs (but especially this and splitter girl) feel like they were pulled straight out of my brain, I don’t think I could start to describe how much these songs mean for me, but still thank you.
I wish to you peace, better health, a great recovery, and just happiness in general. You aren’t alone, you will never be.
The way you tune the voice so you can hear the pain, the anger, the voice cracks, the ironic smiles, beautiful.
ahh… i can’t describe how i feel.. the part about it just being an insignificant moment for the perpetrator but a lifelong struggle for the survivor.. ): . i relate a little too much
I wish peace, happiness, and comfort to you
"did i bring it upon myself, was it my fault for existing?"
"say it's not real, the role i was assigned, the hunger in your eyes" 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
god DAMN this is so. insane i love it so much. i really did Not expect it to hit as hard as it did but man every lyric hits close, even the journal entry feels like something i could've written but could never find the words for, especially the part about feeling like everyone looks at you the same way they did.
the instrumental makes me think of a kids show opening, something that's meant to be reminiscent of the innocence of childhood but it's been corrupted. the sweetness and cuteness of the whole video, but the whole time there's something wrong, something off-putting. in my eyes even the anime clips in the background feel significant, even if this might be me reaching lol. it's pretty common for groomers to show victims inappropriate things to get them desensitized to those subjects, make them think it's normal, and them not knowing any better cause theyre so young and they trust this person so much, so why would they ever do anything to hurt them right?
once again im so grateful for you sharing all these experiences through your music. your lyric writing is just amazing, and you manage to capture these experiences all so well in your songs, not just through lyrics but the music itself and even the videos. you portray everything so well, even the more difficult to talk about subjects, because they still need to be talked about. thank you so much for yet another masterpiece i will be looping this :)
when i read the journal entry for chocolate box girl my stomach flipped. the feeling invalid part is so accurate. thank you for the characters you make and the songs, they mean a lot to me and many others.
i wish someone could save me, but the only person who can save me is myself
Oh, I adore the singing and the instrumental... The chaotic but oddly playful vibe to it all is creepily adorable. There's something very "classic vocaloid" about that.
2:51 THE WONDER EGG PRIORITY GIRL OMG I NEVER SEE HER TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF SA
I just realized that “you told me I was special, I was one in a million” could either refer to being so amazing and unique and standout that one cannot be ignored or being isolated to feel like no one else ever had this kind of thing happen to them, which is so incredibly common it makes me sick
“It’s all fictional right?” Line hits SO close to me. I’m not a victim of sexual abuse, but I was exposed to fetish content and proshipping at a very young age and led to me 1: thinking it was normal, and 2: becoming hypersexual. I was kept in the community when I was young cause the people were nice and they told me it was all fine cause it was fictional. But it caused me to be groomed twice and almost sexually exploited. I am not in that community now, I’m still working on my hypersexuality. But it still is a traumatic experience for me. And that line made me feel better. Also, it reminded me how gross content like proshipping can lead to people actually becoming pedophiles, no matter how “fictional” it is.
I am both, and also hypers#xu@l. You deserve to feel the light, keep fighting for it!!!
@@literallyjustablockofcheese I hope this doesn’t sound offensive, but I sweat therapy helps if you can afford it. Try to talk to people outside these groups.
I believe in you getting out, do not feel ashamed of something you are not to blame for. You deserve love, acceptance, and recovery. I believe in you❤
Of course it isn't!!! I don't engage in that type of content anymore, but I'm trying to seek better in life by myself because my therapist that I do have doesn't help sadly. @@jujuoof174
being a proshipper can very quickly go wrong if you don't yet have a grasp of reality yet. it's not too bad if you're older and know what you're doing, but if you're young and impressionable it can make you feel like it's all normal. i feel so hard for you, even as someone who no longer believes in the antiship mentality. fiction is okay if it stays fiction, but can you really tell if it's fiction if you're just a kid?
I was groomed by multiple pedophiles via the internet (real life too but majority was online) when I was a child/teen around the span of 2009-2018(only one of which got arrested unfortunately) I remembered I learned about the term Loli because of a adult man who would call me one… Now I’m an adult and thank you for making music for someone like me because people don’t talk about this shit enough like you hit it on the nail. Your music speaks to my trauma and the things I’ve been through so well, thank you so much.
I wish to you happiness, genuine joy, good and healthy relationships, and the therapy you need to recover. Take care❤❤
This song makes me sob, and i dont even know why since im not a victim for any kind of SA but i still can feel empathy and the pain this song is transmitting and i think thats a great way to reach other ppl about this kind of topics, great work as always, weevil
I feel you❤
something i realized is that at the start of the song, while she's blaming herself, the anime clips in the background are from media that romanticize this sort of trauma as well as "loli" type characters. once it starts blaming his abusers (as she should) the clips come from media that actually portray it as abuse (such as wonder egg priority)
For a long time I was in denial that I was groomed, but now I know that I was. A scoliosis fetishist got off on the idea of my pain and tried to get me to send videos of the brace I used to wear. At the time I was 15 and they were 17, that's just messed up in many different ways. At the time I thought "this has many red flags" before I decided to cut them off. It sickens me how people could find a sick enjoyment in painful medical conditions that make people's lives worse, and even worse to think that people could live with abusing minors. Now every time someone asks about scoliosis (I actually do have it) I instantly get defensive. The past is the past, but that will never excuse anything. I have hurt and have been hurt by people. I have lived.
AS SOON AS I BEGIN TO WONDER “I wonder when the next Post Traumatic Manifesto Song will come out” THIS IS UPLOADED AND BOOM, IT COVERS MY TRAUMA COMPLETELY! YOUCH!
But switching to being serious: as soon as I read the title I knew what this was about, and the lyrics hit like on coming traffic for me. To all SA and grooming victims out there, we are more than our bodies and what our abusers made us to be. We aren’t just things to be indulged in and then discarded. We are people. Beautiful people despite what happened to us. We deserve to feel love and we deserve to feel comfortable. ❤
Are we all going to ignore the fact that Weevildoing made a cake simply for this video
i need to know how it tasted
@@sillyspider it tasted good!! 😋
This song hits HARD. As someone who was sexually abused and assaulted, I feel a strong connection with this song and it’s undoubtedly one of my favorites. Especially that one line “and now it’s a weight I’ll have to carry my entire life”. Because you just can’t forget something like that. And even if it’s in the past, it still just… idk, it feels awful, and this song really resonates with me.
On a lighter note, though, that cake looks delicious lmao
I wish a good life, genuine lobe and friendship, recovery to the maximum of it’s abilities, joy, and good health. Take care❤
2:51 I recognized the character and scene so fast I had to get up and go “OOOHH MY GOD.” Putting this clip in here is so smart, I love you Weevildoing
im curious! What character is it?
@@kalopseance Miwa from Wonder Egg Priority. Her backstory is that she was m0lested by the same man on the train everyday but when she finally spoke up and screamed for help she was told by her mother that being m0lested “just meant that she was cute”. There’s a bit more but I’ll leave you with that, I hope it makes more sense now :))
@@koi.crossing i thought i recognized her! ive seen wonder egg priority but i dont remember the side characters very well, thank you for the response!
Other people already commented on the "loli" visuals many implications. My own anecdote is that growing up mixed east asian people (men) do make anime comparisons (even today when I present femme), so fiction affects reality in even the most direct way, not only conditioning. Had some guy who touched me in middle school say I looked just like an anime girl while he tried to groom me 💀(got out of it p soon luckily) and bc I like anime ofc I saw it as an equivlant of saying someones cute rather than a red flag for incel male echochamber shit (textbook im telling you. makes the burn of being manipulated even for a tiny time that much worse). Doesn't help either than autistic expressions of happiness are seen as childish, and the childish is sexualized, so then I'm always afraid in the back of my mind when im unmasked in front of men that im "leading them on".
I thought I dont relate to the lyrics in this as much as the other songs (in part bc the "well, im not a *real* victim" effect) but the character profile hit. I've listened to Harmless a ton! And Hole is my current cope music so seeing the profile made me laugh. I also fw chobits even though its problematic ToT .... and baking.. Bingo!! I was familiar with a lot of the trauma processing /expression in this already(?) but when the diary entry mentioned thinking everyone wants you to fall in love with you and feeling self centered for it even as a changed adult... it was something I've been feeling for a long time, and I didn't know that wasn't some inherit/ exclusive part of me. Thanks WeevilDoing, this album and the girls help me with every release
i love TPTM so much i wish women were real....
What's tptm
@@iamlunli3439 the album this song is apart of is called The Post Traumatic Manifesto (TPTM)
@@iamlunli3439 the project that this song is in
It was surreal seeing Iku acme in this, I love seeing her used in art/music that really delves into themes like this, I feel like she’s such an interesting character and utilising her in this music video was really perfect, great song yet again, lots of love 💚🖤❤️🤍
I have so many thoughts theyre frying my brain... I want to iron this song onto my brain... The rhythm and tuning are exquisite and provide the perfect emotional impact for the song. And the way she says "you picked me out and promised me that i was all you need" (as opposed to "promised me you were all i need") and "my god who else did you corrupt?" Idk if those lines are actually connected but the combination makes me feel So Much
this was such a beautiful way to tackle the topic of csa, its genuinely gorgeous. you are such an incredible writer and character creator!!
You may not realise it, but you’re a hero to many. You’re the voice of the most lost, hurt, and miss understood.
I may not be one of them, but I want them to know I feel for them and I believe in them.
They care, ya’ll❤
Fantastic and hard-hitting lyrics as always, devastating yet beautiful. The character design is beautiful and very in-theme, you’re only getting better and drawing and music-making! The editing adds so much.
OMFGGGGG OMFG YALL ITS HAPPENING
YIPIEEEE
the inclusion of the dove theming in reference to "dead dove/do not read" content struck me hard. "if it's not real, it's not a warning sign. it's all fictional, right?" is a pretty accurate summary for what happened to me as a person who went through csa/ramcoa and it's refreshing to finally feel well-represented in that respect. also bonus points for including miwa from wonder egg priority in the editing, i hardly see her talked about anywhere.
this entire album has never failed to make me feel seen, and gives me a healthy way to process my emotions. thank you for making the post traumatic manifesto. it hasn't finished i know, but i'd like to thank you.
the beginning bit of the song vaguely reminds me rugrats background music, and is honestly a bit unsettling!!
it works perfectly
I was just in the premiere!! Another great song in a great series :D
The one in four lyric was the thing that caught me, I didn’t know what it meant so I search it up and dang, it really help brings the feeling in the song closer once you realize what it’s talking about.
NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY IM SO SO EXCITED FOR THIS
wow, this is really relatable and i hate/love it more then anything. the backgrounds were all shows i was introduced to because of my ..circumstances. “it’s all fictional, right?” hit me like a truck. you’re the best at what you do. i’ve always been scared of talking about this cause of discourse about fiction online in general being .. yknow, not the most compassionate despite its nuance. but you can do what i cant do , you can even make a banger song about it. ❤❤❤
the “censoring” of the visuals in the background is super brave too. you censor just enough to show the disgusting , woobified, commercialized cuteness of taboo things like pedophilia , incest and other things. “the canary in the mine, it was a dove this time.” WOW I WONDER WHAT COMMUNITY THIS COULD BE REFERENCING
this song kills me so bad man /pos but another bit i love is that the characters profile shows his pronouns(it/he/she) (also he/it gang rise up) and makes me think of the curse of "im genderfluid with a cishet partner, but they see me!
he's so cool :D as a chubby lady honestly I really love to representation here, and also non cis representation in the mix? It's awesome!
I'm really glad i shared a lot of my feelings on this song with you directly, Seeing Chocolate Box Girl out there now with the world enjoying her in her full glory means that the way you made me feel human through my darkest moments, ONCE AGAIN will happen to other people as well. *shakes fist in air as i look into the beautiful sky with tears streaming down my face* Fie and Fie again Towne...!
Sharing a lot of those feelings Then means I have a little less of what to say here and now, which is nearly bottomless. Knowing the lyrics of this song now, in real time, definitely was a gut punch after listening to it on loop for the past few days and sorta not knowing (bcs its the Infamous Rin V4 English). But I can put that aside because You always know how to get right to the point and the point stabbed me in the heart (In a very good way...!).
I always painted a very wide stroke in the shade of "evil" on what was done to me, Because what was Truly Evil? But I know now what happened took things I will never have back. Despite that, I love how you portrayed what makes you feel whole again here in the PV through the consumption of media. Turning it from something that will Erode boundaries and hurt you irreversibly, Into something that fills the gaps with Love.
"The Canary in the Mine / It was a dove this time / A Worthy Sacrifice."
Though it is never something to ever be fully shaken off, and uncertainty stays, One day, despite everything, you will stand up and be proud of the person you've become. Thank you so much for sharing your art with the world. I'll keep this song nestled dear to my heart.
im so glad i caught this on premiering. i havent cried over a song in a while. great job, thank you for writing this, i dont think ive felt this seen by media about s/a before.
i keep coming back to this song of yours in particular and especially after reading her page on the carrd..... hes just like me fr....... this song captures the actual internal feelings in the aftermath of this kind of thing instead of just the softened logic-driven sort of speech i think a lot of people sometimes find themselves using to describe experiences to other people in a way that makes it more palatable to them (or at the very least less likely to view you in a way you dont like because that kind of control is important to feel like you have) so very well.... love this series very dearly
this is the song in the series to make me cry, it hits close to home, especially her paragraph on the carrd, thank you for making this song, I adore it so much, I love your work so much, been a fan since audit!!! i still blame myself to this day and this song feels like my feelings as a physical thing in this world, thank you again, im sure other victims feel the way too
Listening to Chocolate Box after Taxidermy is so bittersweet because the one connection they really have is rooted in sexual abuse. The ways they contrast is amazing and pretty important for people to see; CB remembers everything that happened to her and is terrified of ever falling in love again and while Taxi doesn't remember her trauma, she's clearly hypersexual as a result of the event. Assuming the ??? page is going where I think it is, I hope the two are able to be friends despite everything.
that was SO GOOD i love the beginning part sm and i feel so bad for her but you ATE SO HARD i love the silly overlays and I LOVE RIN this is one of my favorited cause i love the loudness like the beat drop (idk what its called) is actually so good ahshusjddkkso
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the instrumentation of this song is so smooth during the verses, like elevator music to me almost, i think it really enhances the contrast of how common what the song describes is to how fucking horrible it is- and the chaos sounding more chaotic REALLY enhances THAT
1:47
Man the anime clip playing is uh...
Definitely making it all the more obvious
I am so scared right now.
ALSO the “???” page update?? HUH??? THE GIRLS HAVE NAMES????,? THEY ARE FRIENDS WHO DO MOVIE NIGHTS??,!!? omg
I cant figure out whos name is whos… maybe there will be more clues in the future?
AHH ME NEITHER i hope we can figure out which is whos though. i love tptm to bits
BUT i think since caliber girl is 27-28, that password mentioned "1996XIOMARA" might be caliber girls name. 1996 you'd be 28 or 27 so.. xiomara could be caliber girls real name?
I think faineant girl is freyja.. chocolate box girl is probably nora, considering the art she drew was a piece of cake, and her whole thing is baking.
@@oliverzwatermelongum !!!
i believe it could be the following?
jordyn - disposable girl (her blog fits the aesthetic of disposable girl’s character page + dog pics on jordyns blog when disposable girl refers to herself as a dog girl)
xiomara - caliber girl (caliber girl’s page says she’s 27 and xiomara’s birthday is implied to be 1996 with the password on jordyns blog, which if the story takes place in modern day would suggest xiomara would be turning 28 this year.)
nora - chocolate box girl (honestly just cuz of the cake drawing)
freyja - fainent girl (uses both they/them pronouns and mentions an iv drip)
tahira - splitter girl (jordyns blog mentions tahira choosing the film “the dirties” which is apparently a found footage thriller comedy, which feels fitting for tahira. also mentions tahira for whatever reason wanting xiomara’s password which makes me think of splitter girl as the most associated with tech?
irreverant girl - im not sure if she has been mentioned on the blog
. Sorry if this replies twice my first reply disappeared for me lol
Wait this song is only 3 days old??? It came to me at the perfect time, goodness. I was about to comment wishing it was on spotify, but given how new it is I'll just sit tight and be patient. Thank you for making this song, it helped me conceptualize some ideas and put them into words.
I believe it’ll come on spotify once the rest of the songs on the album come out
*Very* disgusting theory but "you picked me up and ate me up" means that her abuser ate the chocolate (her) up and she turned from a bubbly, optimistic person (ig) into someone falling into depression and grief. Back to the metaphor, the chocolate is going through the abuser's digestive system and turning into "the stuff" in the process and losing parts of what she once was to the digestive system as the intestines absorb her nutrients. That's prolly a metaphor for falling into depression and grief after being abused like that.
I am excited to hear this new girl’s story!! I didn’t expect to get a new girl so soon after caliber girl omg, I gotta prepare myself 🤯
We're going to get a new girl soon after Seems like she's almost finished maybe 2 weeks at least maybe 2 months at best but my say is it's probably gonna happen in another month
@@CaMo-fp6mrmaybe its the deer girl?
@@oliverzwatermelongum yes weevildoing confirmed that in the description and on there tumblr
babe are you okay? you've had chocolate box girl on loop for the past 2 hours
THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER RELATABLE BANGER WEEVILDOING
UGHHHHH THIS TURNED OUT SO GOOD!!!!! the character design for chocolate box girl, the visuals, the lyrics. it's all just MWAH
favorite line from this is the '1 in 4 statistics', thats so brilliant holy shit. also shoutouts to the clip of lain near the end g,kfdg,nfdmhnmdh
NOT ACME IKU IN THE BACKGROUND 😭😭
idk if its just me but this characters design really looks like a deer (the little poofs look like ears and her freckles look like markings) which kinda adds on to the pity everyone feels for her and her helplessness, especially since she was r@ped/SA'd at a young age. baby deers are known to be extremely helpless and gullible 😥
its funny u say that bc the next song is taxidermy girl i think-
1:31 IS THIS ACME IKU... DAMN
Yes it is!!!!
god the bridge is so raw and painful
WE NEED THIS ON SPOTIFY!!!
This song is addicting, I can’t believe I didn’t listen to this song more before now. It has grown on me so much recently. I love your work keep it up!
to call your desires "childish" is an understatement
you told me i was special, that i was one in a million
but i was just one in four according to the statistics
how did it feel to touch a body that fit adolescent clothes
did you know i was scared to tell, that nobody would know
did i bring it upon myself,
was it my fault for existing?
if it's not real, it's not a warning sign
it's all fictional, right...?
you picked me out and ate me up
i thought that it was love
how young and dumb i was.
another victim of your opportunistic lust
hands reaching out to touch
an unspoken disgust
too soon to grow up.
put in a heart-shaped plastic box covered up with a lid,
with people like me who know the horrible shit you did
it couldn't have been love, that's true,
but if it wasn't, what was it?
the way you savoured me got you off in the moment
now here i am, so many years later, heart racing, sleepless
did the means meet the end, was it carefully calculated
an innocence so valuable, you bared your teeth and ate it.
all of the times i wish i said no and all of the times i tried,
left wondering if you'd even stop if i put up a fight
for you, it was just the final course, a brief moment in time,
for me, it's a weight i'll have to carry my entire life
it's all pretend
it's not a problem, right?
that's all it took to bite
i let you reel in the line,
i'm all you fantasized,
desires come to life
you picked me out and ate me up
i thought that it was love
how young and dumb i was.
another victim of your opportunistic lust
hands reaching out to touch
an unspoken disgust
too soon to grow up.
you picked me out and promised me
that i was all you'd need
how stupid and naive
did i have to be?
another night i spend in grief
i see you in my dreams,
i hear the way you breathe
too late to be free
say it's not real,
the role i was assigned
the hunger in your eyes
the canary in the mine,
it was a dove this time;
a worthy sacrifice
you picked me out of everyone
you did it all for what?
some twisted kind of "fun"?
i'll never get you.
my god, who else did you corrupt?
you ruin all you touch,
betray all those you trust
( I FUCKING HATE YOUR GUTS. )
you picked me out and ate me up
i thought that it was love
how young and dumb i was.
another victim of your opportunistic lust
hands reaching out to touch
an unspoken disgust
too soon to grow up.
you made me think that it was love.
LOOK AT THE PERSON I'VE BECOME.
I'm going off the video's lyrics and the warning. Chocolate-Box girl at a young age who was manipulated by a man to believe that she is special and his one. But this wasn't because he did want to be friends but something more sinister. So over time she believed this was normal love until he gained enough trust to touch her and do unspeakable things. After those events, she not only lost her innocence and blamed herself for what happened to her.
Sadly self blaming is common for victims even though it's not her fault but the person who did these things to her. I hope she can get one day to speak up and get help to recover.
Anyways correct me if I said or wrote something incorrectly. Thanks for listening to my gamer explanation.
Every song you make hits so close, holy crap this one’s GOOD
I am so in love with this girl’s design she is SO PRETTY ❤❤ AAAA ANOTHER GREAT WORK
update i’m tweaking it’s so good and so so raw and painful. truly these lyrics are absolutely insane and beautiful, you have a nuance and prose simply like none else that’s perfect for the tone and message of each of your songs
GUYS HOLYYYY SHIT NEW POST TRAUMATIC MANIFESTO DROPPINGGGG
Aw yeah this one is gonna hurt like hell ‼️‼️
Heart wrenching as always, i really love your song writing for the uncomfortable subject matter you often cover, the consequences of abuse, and warning signs often missed, i was scared of giving this one a listen because of the content warnings at first but i trust your writing to make these topics more lucid / to handle them with care. I hope that makes sense, i have felt very seen by your music before, i really appreciate it!
I think this is my favorite song right after Disposable Girl, I've been listening to it on and off since it released and gosh... The music video along with the cleverness of the lyrics just sticks in my head like gum! The feelings come across very well despite them being so complicated, it's nearly impossible to not be empathetic for her. I hope she and everyone else who saw themselves in this song heals 💖
this is so well written? I jsut…. OH my god
This song ate so damn hard, as a grooming victim I unfortunately relate. I hope those who do to a quick recovery ❤
i may have not been groomed - but i have some. experiences that relate to the song.
when i was young, i used to look at fetish content to gawk at. this turned into looking at fucking porn unironically. i was like, 10. i already feel like i grew up way too fast - i once said that i was a "millennial in a gen z's body" - i mixed up which generation is the "cool" one. the internet's depiction of "discord mods" and it's general fatphobic attitudes had been the source of a lot of my body dysmorphia - doesn't help nobody likes me at school. im a victim of sexual harassment. it was a email, according to the school the culprit was NOT the sender but some other person who used his computer without his knowledge. either way, i know it was some sort of sick joke at my expense. while i'll always thank the heavens for making me lucky enough to not be a victim of sexual abuse...i have been physically and verbally abused. but that's another story for another song. the line "you picked me up out of everyone/you did it all for what?/some twisted kind of fun?/i'll never get you" really feels... real. i can't think a world where sexually harassing someone is a funny gag.
I love the person in the back who just took a tiny bit of icing
i love your concept album and i really enjoyed this song. i don’t have anything cool to say about it i just liked it. i hope the cake that i’m assuming you baked was good
This is a wonderful song that I think I will never listen to again. The choices in anime clips felt brutal. Like a gut punch.
REALLY FUCKIN GOOD. you did NOT hold back punches
i came into this video thinking 'oh i wont kin another one of these silly girls!' and then i saw the warning. and then i saw the bio saying shes autistic and oH MY GOD SHE IS SO ME. SHES SO MEEEEE...
Amazing and emotional lyrics 💖
They you string the characters fustrations and sadness to make these great melodies
Thank you so much for all of this
Each song reaches our hearts ❤
Won't get into specifics, but this hits rlly hard as a victim myself. Thank you.
Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but the songs I cherish the most in TPTM (And even your General Discography) have always been ones I see and recognize my friends struggles in, and what make Irreverent, Fanient, and now Chocolate-Box so precious to me. Obviously not my place to go into anyone's individual experiences, but Seeing the rage expressed at the start of each verse that can't help but inevitably get turned inwards on yourself and the confusion it all leaves is something that's incredibly realistic.
Especially a fan of the detail of using a lot of anime that glorifies these deeply traumatic experiences in conjunction with the lyrics presented; I find it works really well to capture disassociation associated with these Experiences and the role that media plays in causing these types of experiences. The angle of disassociation is also why "How stupid and naive, did I have to be?" is the part that gets me the most in the whole song for feeling like it's asking two questions. I'm unsure if this was the intent, but I like the use of Rin English as well; it sounds a lot deeper and more adult than her more typically used Japanese Voicebank, which really makes me think of how a lot of abusers tell their victims "You're really mature for your age".
Really sensitive subject matter that's been handled with an incredible amount of care. Absolutely wonderful job!
God this one is so SAD
Idc, I'm watching the baking the cake background and, i think this music is cool.
I understand the lyrics but, isc thisosng is a bop.
a bop is a bop.
Ive been listening to this song on repeat for at least 7 times now since it just came out and
let me just say the character is so relatable especially with the PTM card and how it all felt when they were in that kind of situation, u really portray these characters SO well
This was amazing!! I loved the lyrics, they were so well thought out!! Keep up the good work, Im looking forward to your next song!! :3