Kangaroo Leather (This was a tough turn)
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2018
- This Kangaroo Leather blank was difficult to turn but once finished, was worth every bit of effort.
Regards,
Bob
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Thanks for not hiding your mistakes, Bob. I learn more from your honest videos than I do anywhere else.
Thank you Dave,
I learn a great deal troubleshooting too.
Regards,
Bob
That looked like an extreme challenge. The pen turned out beautifully. I am once again impressed with your skills and even more with you patience and determination to complete the pen. Honestly, Id have most likely chalked that blank up as a loss.
Thank you Ryan.
Regards,
Bob
Absolutely beautiful pen and a great video on fixing a problem and the importance of not give up😅. Great work
Thank you Henrick.
Love that you saved that pen. It is a beautiful pen.
Thank you.
Regards,
Bob
Great job saving that gorgeous blank Bob.
Thank you.
So many tips and tricks Bob. The last one was a ripper with sanding down on the top bit of the ink refill. As usual you have provided a great presentation with a "never say die" regimen. Thanks again; Buddha, Beachmere Australia
Thank you David,
Regards,
Bob
I think this is most beautiful pen you have made. I love it. Great job on repairing all the problems. Absolutely magnificent.
Thank you Dennis.
Regards,
Bob
Way to stick with it Bob! That turned out awesome.
Thank you John.
Regards,
Bob
Gorgeous pen!!! Definitely worth the time...an hour and a half later:) Your friend is very lucky.
Thank you, sometimes the tough turns really pay off.
Regards,
Bob
Re: The leather pen...
To be honest with you, RJ... I think the problems in the turning of the blank turned out to look better than they might have without a problem.
A truly serendipitous 'turn' of events.
Thank your Stanley.
Regards,
Bob
Great patience and determination!
Thank you John.
Regards,
Bob
again, the patience of a saint.
Thank you.
Regards,
Bob
This was a fantastic video, we all learn so much more from watching you solve the problems that we go through than a smooth no problem build. And you turned out a beautiful pen. Thank you for working out all the problems and sharing them with us.
Thank you John.
Regards,
Bob
You are tenacious! Nice job! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Steve.
Regards,
Bob
Great recovery Bob, the pen looks great.
Thank you Allen.
Regards,
Bob
Oh Man! I had my eyes closed for that last pass, I couldn't watch. WHEW!!!! Looks great!
I did too, LOL.
Regards,
Bob
No kidding. 50% of the time I end up screwing it up and not leaving well enough alone. :-)
i love the perseverance thumbs up as usual
Thank you.
Regards,
Bob
Brilliant video ! Well done great looking pen and 10 out of 10 for perseverance
Thank you Jim.
Regards,
Bob
A classic lesson in perseverance there. Really nice tip about trimming up the ink refill. Great looking pen as an outcome.
Thank you Andy.
Another great save Bob, excellent result, beautiful pen. 😍😍👍👍
Thank you Eric.
Regards,
Bob
Brilliant save Bob and so worth it👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you Alan.
Regards,
Bob
Thanks for taking the time to share preciate it
Thank you Tim.
Regards,
Bob
Great looking pen awesome job
Thank you Brandon.
Regards,
Bob
What a beautiful pen, Bob. Even with all the issues, you knocked it out if the park!!!
~Scott
Thank you Scott,
It was challenging. But I enjoyed making it.
Regards,
Bob
Anyone else close their eyes for that "One Last Pass" on this blank from He... um Down Under. :-)
I was holdin my breath.
Oh man, i was waiting for the "Slo-mo Shot of Doom"
Dave Clark with the obligatory
Nooooooooooooooooooo
LOL, I’m glad it never came.
LOL
I'm new to turning and enjoy watching your videos. Amazing job saving the pen.
Thank you Nadine.
Regards,
Bob
Greetings from Nebraska! - Very cool pen - A classic case of "ever have one of those days!" You handled it so well! Great tip about fixing the ink refill - much better than what I've done in the past. Thanks again Bob!
Thank you David.
Regards,
Bob
Curious as to what you did in the past. What Bob did and as he stated it only works until you change the ink filler.
I did about the same thing as Bob but instead of shortening the metal part of the refill, I shortened the plastic part. Like his, my fix also only works until the ink refill is replaced because any new - unmodified refill will still be longer (the standard length) and will not retract quite as far as the modified one. I think Bob's method of shortening the metal part and leaving the plastic alone is better both cosmetically and because it makes it more likely that the transmission will work with the modified refill like it is supposed to.
Man my jaw dropped every time you had a break out while turning that it turned out great getting a lathe from a friend and I’m learning so much by watching you. I’m looking forward to doing my first pen
Thank you Gary,
I appreciate the comment.
Regards,
Bob
Great video and a amazing save on that blank...
Thank you Robert.
Regards,
Bob
Beautiful looking pen Bob! Thanks for sharing the video with us.😎👍JP
Thank you J.P.
Regards,
Bob
You're very welcome Bob 😎
I enjoy seeing how you come out with a great save Eddie
Thank you Eddie.
I hate losing, LOL.
just outstanding love it
Thank you Jody.
Regards,
Bob
Wow that pen is gorgeous.... when I get the chance to get a lathe and tooling I think I'll have to get with you to see about getting the leather blank. Very beautiful.
Thank you Joe.
Regards,
Bob
Man I enjoyed this video. I was shouting NOOOO not one last pass! Well done Bob Great looking pen
Thank you. It made me nervous too but I knew I had to do it.
Regards,
Bob
this was awesome.
Thank you Dusty.
Regards,
Bob
Good Job fantastic look Thanks
Thank you Charles.
Regards,
Bob
I understand having issues with pen blanks and having them break a piece out almost at the end. I have one pen that has become my nemesis, I have gone through three segmented pen blanks that I have made for it. I am going to try it again once I have the blanks in for it. Beautiful turning of the Kangaroo leather. Glad you stuck with it.
Thank you Ben,
I’m the end, it was worth it.
Regards,
Bob
That really is a cracking pen sir 👍
Thank you Steve.
Regards,
Bob
Very timely video as I turned a pen this weekend and had that same issue where the ink would not fully seat. Now I can correct it so it closes. Thanks! Pic posted on my Instagram page.
Thank you Mike.
Regards,
Bob
In the end the pen looks beautiful,nicely done Bob!
Thank you so much Kwstas.
Regards,
Bob
beautiful. The trouble you had and persevered through was well worth it.
Thank you Paulie.
I love a challenge.
Regards,
Bob
Nicely done Bob
Thank you Ed.
Regards,
Bob
Really nice pen Bob . Great job take care.
Thank you Glen.
Regards,
Bob
Thanks for making this video Bob. You certainly had to work all the way to the end with that one! I feel a bit bad that you had so many dramas with it but it was great seeing how you went about saving it. Very nice job!
As an alternative fix, I keep the shavings that come out when drilling the hole for the tube in case of a blow out like you experienced. I glue the shavings straight on to the tube by putting some CA on the tube and pressing the shavings in to it. Essentially these shavings are pretty much what the blank is made of so it blends in perfectly.
Thanks again Bob and I hope when you try the other blanks it goes a bit smoother for you!
Cheers, Peter
Thank you Peter,
That’s a great idea.
Regards,
Bob
Well done Bob, love the way you show all the bad with the good when you turn.I believe you should give it away as a subscriber giveaway :) ... cant blame a guy for trying. I think all your viewers would love a shot at getting the "Australian" pen
Thank you John,
I sent it to my nephew. I haven’t done a give away in a while. Let me think about that.
Regards,
Bob
RJBWoodTurner well if u do send me something lol ... can't blame a guy for trying
Beautiful pen Bob, that one was a real challenge. Take care
Thank you Val,
Yes it was. But, it was worth it.
Regards,
Bob
Yep. True Bob style. You overcame and won. Well done
Thank you.
Great tip with the cartridge and very nice pen
Take care
Rob
Thank you Rob.
Regards,
Bob
Very nicely done Bob. Good rescue of that blank. I have a couple blanks that a friend of mine made for me that exploded, so I may try this method for fixing.
Thank you Owen.
I’ve used it many times and it’s a great fix.
Regards,
Bob
Awesome
Thank you Donald.
Regards,
Bob
one of my favorites. I'll take it!!!!
Thank you Joe.
Regards,
Bob
It didn't turn out amazing, it turned out beyond amazing.
Thank you so much, that blank was a tough one. I gave it to my nephew as a gift and he loves it.
Ive had to shorten tubes before but I just trimmed the black plastic end
Thank you Mark.
Regards,
Bob
@rjbwoodturner have you considered using a 10.5mm drill bit instead of 27/64ths? You'll get a closer fit to your tube, which means better glue adhesion and less chance of chip out. I've started doing this with all acrylic blanks, they don't shrink back after drilling, and I always have a gap to fill with thin CA if I use a 27/64 on resin blanks. I still use the 27/64 on wood due to shrinkage after drilling. Might give it a shot, worked wonders for me.
Thank you for the info.
Regards,
Bob
Bob:
I have been doing the same to get better fit on blank. It works great.
Charlie
Way to go Bob! Turned out beautiful in the end.
If an old aircraft mechanic who has drilled more holes than I care to remember could pass along a tip??.....find yourself some "jobber" length bits. MSC shows one in 27/64 that is around 4" long. That should eliminate a lot of the wobble caused by the combination of the Jacob's chuck, tolerances of the tail stock & a long bit. I've noticed that the bit wobbling is pretty common in most anyone's videos I watch.
Again, great job!
Thank you Christopher,
That’s a good idea.
Regards,
Bob
Great save! Peter Thorndike sells these blanks for $20. I mentioned your name when I asked. Just leary about a blowout on a $20 blank. :-( If I do it I'll try using a skew instead of a gouge.
A skew would be a much better tool choice. I just like that old gough, LOL.
Regards,
Bob
I love this video and how it shows the troubleshooting process! I recently made a summit pen with a cross style refill and ran into the same issue where the ink won't retract all the way. I tried cutting off a piece but ran into the issue where the twist mechanism would no longer work. Any suggestions?
I’d really have to see the pen kit and the retracting issue to make a guess. I’m not familiar with the summit kit.
Regards,
Bob
@@RJBWoodTurner thank you Bob, I will shoot you an email with the details
Thanks Bob, loved the video. I did not know you could turn leather. In any case, the pen is beautiful! Your determination to not lose the blank paid off.
Thank you Bret,
It was a challenging and fun turn.
Regards,
Bob
Wow, Bob! That was a heck of a pen and seeing you persevere gives that pen even more of a story. Awesome job!
Thank you Robert.
Regards,
Bob
Great looking pen Bob, the fix made it even better. Thumbs up my friend.
Thank you.
Regards,
Bob
Bob,
I can't believe you stayed with that blank as long as you did.
Having said that, I am very happy you did, because you worked it out and got a fantastic result.
As for me, I have a bottle of scotch in the shop for when something like that happens.
Bob
LOL, as long as you don’t turn after.
Regards,
Bob
Very nice Bob I like how you did not give up on it.A True woodturner
I have a question, where did you get the center for the head stock?
The tailstock is a 60 degree cone center right?Thanks Anthony
,
Yes, it is a 60 degree live center, I got it from www.pennstateind.com.
Regards,
Bob
What I love about your videos are how you show your mistakes, and how to correct them, lovely pen, just a little thought, didn’t you say the wooden repair was going to be the top end of the pen! or did I imagine it? Lol
Thank you Kevin,
I probably did say top then placed it one the bottom. Best bet is to make the decision at the end so you get the best looking pen.
Regards,
Bob
RJBWoodTurner , either way, it’s a great video, I’m just starting the hobby, so what you show is so helpful, really very much appreciated Bob
Thank you Kevin.
Regards,
Bob
I know you wanted to use an Australian wood, but I was thanking that Walnut might have looked good ? Great looking pen!
Thank you Barry,
I agree with the walnut but I really wanted an Australian theme.
Regards,
Bob
Bob Another Question,When you finish putting on the ca finish , do you start sanding with the micro mesh?
No regular sandpaper? Thanks
Yes, I don’t use sand paper at all after the C/A is applied. MM only.
Regards,
Bob
thanks for the way you stick with it , now I can fixe my pen that wont seat. I think the chalenges make for a better lesson.
Thank you,
I learn so much more when I have to troubleshoot.
Regards,
Bob
Hi Bob, thanks for all your interesting and instructive videos, I have learned a whole lot from you. The Kangaroo leather blank is fascinating, do you know if it is stabilized or compressed??????
Hi Gerald. It was compressed in a pvc pipe. Cheers, Peter
Thanks Peter, it really is a beaut.
I believe it is compressed then stabilized.
Regards,
Bob
Peter, I’ve been asked if you’re selling them. Let me know if you are and I’ll pass your info along.
Regards,
Bob
Thanks for putting my contact details in the description Bob. happy to sell these if anyone is interested.
That blank really looks good with gunmetal Gatsby
Thanks Dave,
I really like the gold and GM kits.
Regards,
Bob
Bummer, nice save though
Thank you Jonathan.
Regards,
Bob
I have an idea that just struck me. Why not go to thrift store or closet and look for thick leather belts and re-purpose. Use one of the various methods and make some blanks.
Cool idea.
Where can I find a blank? Also, did you get another lathe?
I put the contact info in the video description. Yes, I have a Turn craft Commander now.
Regards,
Bob
Enjoyed the video.
Where did you get your pen press? I have the old fashioned kind from psi.
By the way, we're coming for you on Sep. 1.
ROLL TIDE!
You can get them on Amazon. It’s a Milescraft.
Regards,
Bob
Nice save on that blank! I held my breath a little when you took that last pass with the gouge. LOL. I'm curious what the kangaroo leather is - it appeared to be kind of a cast resin but doesn't look like the usual things I spotted when I googled the name. Any idea how it's made?
I believe Peter forces pieces into a PVC pipe then fills it with resin. His email is in the video description, he would love to tell you about it.
Regards,
Bob
@@RJBWoodTurner So....It's shredded kangaroo hide pressed into resin in a PVC mold? Now if I can just find a Roo!
That turned out beautiful. I might have to try a leather pen soon. Nothing worse then having a day of everything going wrong but you work through it.
Also is that a new Nova lathe I spied in the background?
Thank you. The Nova is gone. The owner picked it up.
Regards,
Bob
I think Bob I would be inclined to use a coarse grit sandpaper to get it down the bushings after getting rid of most of the material.
The famous 60 grit turning tool. :-)
LOL.
I hate sanding. That’s why I lose so many blanks at the end of the turn. LOL.
Regards,
Bob
Another thought.....since you don't seem to mind showing mistakes & how you work through them maybe you could make a video titled "Dang it & how to fix it ".
I know it would be very valuable to me as I'm just getting started and haven't touched a lathe in over 50yrs.
Thanks!
LOL, that’s pretty much every video I make.
That is what I like about Bob--every pen turned doesn't always go perfectly. You learn from your mistakes.
Also is this another live by CA die by CA for glueing in tubes?
I would have maybe used poly glue or maybe epoxy.
I don’t think so, the tube had tons residue on it. I think it was carelessness from the speed.
I see that you are using the TBC set-up. Do you find the Gatsby to be a good seller?
It’s a fair seller. It really depends on the crowd.
Regards,
Bob
Thank you. Have you quit using carbide for any particular reason, or just because you are so used to the Best tool you have used for most of the videos that I have watched?
I occasionally use carbide but prefer HHS. The cuts are smoother and there is way less tear out.
Regards,
Bob
Ok Bob, where do we get the kangaroo leather blanks ? And how much are they ?
Peter Thorndike made this blank. I have sent him a message about selling them. I haven’t heard back yet.
Regards,
Bob
Jim,
Peter does sell the blanks, contact info below:
To purchase blanks, contact Peter Thorndike:
www.peterthorndike.com or pcthorndike@gmail.com
nice job did a great job my friend
Thank you Gene.
Regards,
Bob
I'll take it
I ended up sending this pen to my nephew, LOL
Super nice
Thank you Kenny.
Regards,
Bob
I noticed all the Louisville Cardinals stuff, are you in Louisville or just a fan?
Huge fan.
Regards,
Bob
Question of the day...Where do you get kangaroo leather blanks? I want the challenge too.
Peter does sell the blanks, contact info below:
To purchase blanks, contact Peter Thorndike:
www.peterthorndike.com or pcthorndike@gmail.com
Regards,
Bob
I think Gatsby tubes are little longer than the standard Sierra/Manhattan style pens where you twists the body not the cap.
ETA: Ok just checked and Gatsby's are 2.25 and Sierra's 2.21. Not sure if a little over 1/32" of an inch is enough to make a difference but I guess it can if you start to shorten an already short tube.
Excellent information Cliff. I wasn’t aware of that.
Regards,
Bob
I'm pretty sure though it was the multiple sandings to square the blank. Next time pull out a caliper and go to here for tube sizes.
www.penturners.org/forum/f109/bushing-tube-dimensions-kit-suppliers-135922/#post1805105
Thank you Cliff.
Is that like Leather Micarta because no section of a Kangaroo hide is that thick.
FYI I have heard that Kangaroo Leather is the best to make whips.
Hello Cliff,
I believe it is compressed and stabilized. Not real sure of the process.
Regards,
Bob
Hi Cliff. The leather is compressed with resin in a pvc pipe. You are spot on about kangaroo leather being the best for whips! It's the leftovers from making whips that I use to make these blanks.
Love to get one of those blanks, does he sell them?
I’m not sure, I need to ask him because I think there are a bunch of interested people.
Regards,
Bob
RJBWoodTurner sounds good! Thanks Bob! Also I have those blanks ready to send to you. I'll get them out soon.
Thank you Evan,
That sounds amazing.
Bob
Evan,
Peter does sell the blanks, contact info below:
To purchase blanks, contact Peter Thorndike:
www.peterthorndike.com or pcthorndike@gmail.com
RJBWoodTurner thanks Bob
Nice save, Bob. I'd love to get my hands on a couple chunks of that leather. Two things. The original chipout may have been caused by no glue under the place it chipped out. And, as you pointed out, you have created a pen that no one else can refill without the secret modification to ink cartridge. I found a better way. Carve off the little tit on the end of the plastic insert. This is something that anyone can do without taking the cartridge apart. I found this out when I worked on a cowboy pen. I got the upper and lower barrels reversed. Only 1/16 in. diff in length, but carving off that tiny piece of plastic saved the day. Keep 'em coming.
Thank you for the tip on the ink cartridge Steve.
I’m not sure if glue was the reason for the tear out or not. There was lots of residue the tube. Plus it had a ripping sound when it came off. Many times the tool I’m using is more the cause because it’s designed to rough out, not finish cut. I use it because I like the control of a longer tool. If I was using a skew, I’d bet this issue would all but do away.
Regards,
Bob
Don’t know if you will read this one is there a reason why people don’t use mahogany to turn pens with I just don’t see people use it and was wondering why
Hello Gary,
Not that I’m aware of. I’ve turned quite a few from African Mahogany, it’s absolutely beautiful.
So, I just noticed a shirt you were wearing in previous video. In addition to being a woodworker, are you also a traveling man?
What did the shirt say? I can’t remember what I would have wore, LOL
After having so much trouble with the blank why not use a new pen kit
Hard headed and stubborn I guess.
Regards,
Bob
Nice save. Fixing a FUBAR is a true sign of an expert.
Thank you George.
Regards,
Bob
Instead of always using a gouge for EVERYTHING try a skew chisel which planes instead of bashing corners off!
I use to use the gouge just for the comments. I now am using the skew exclusively. Both work well and I used that gouge for so long I can turn a pretty nice pen with it. 😃