the funny thing about this is that he calls it “dirt cheap” when let’s be honest we’re all here because we’re on a sharp budget and want to see if this processor can run games decently
@@gradientO i wanted to buy that too but i heard the single pipe cooling kinda hurts the clockspeed as its not quite enough to cool the APU. what do you think about this?
One thing I notice right away that is fantastic for an affordable laptop, real ports! I loathe the trend on premium laptops away from USB type A ports, but the idea seems to be that if you can afford $1500+ for your laptop, then you can also afford wireless peripherals and a thunderbolt dock.
I don't know it depends, if they use the space for better cooling and other useful features i agree with them on saving space and relying on docks and dongles for ports
So true! That's why I love the Aero & GE-Raider laptops, sure their design/profile isn't as sleek as a Razer or Zephyrus but they pack in all the ports! Heck even my 7yr old laptop (HP Envy) has 4xUSB-A, HDMI, full-size SD card slot, RJ-45, HP/mic combo. I can imagine replacing the 2xUSB-A with 2xType-C and upgrading the thermal system by making it not so slim
Thunderbolt ports are typically only found on more premium options anyway. And that port is way more versatile than the type A. 1 $30 tb3 adapter gives all of the functionality of type A and more.
Just bought the E15 gen 3 with this APU at launch for $900. Perfect to help my grandparents stay connected during the Sydney lockdown. Seeing it beat the 7700k in benchmarks was insane.
Damn... I'm still having trouble wrapping my head on that. 7700K was de facto choice for several years. I still have people using it. To think that a mobile processor beats it....
@@MrWillypanda88 well that's what you get when we have a monopoly and any company (in this case Intel) gets complacent. I think in HUB's 5800H or 5900HX video (or maybe the Strix G15 AE), he also showed that it beat any Intel 8 core desktop CPU as well!! 🤯🤯
I dont know how long an HDMI cable can be, or how far from the screen they wish to sit, but plug in a ~27"+ 1080p LCD TV & put the laptop on a coffee table in front of the couch, & use the touch pad & keyboard as controls for some great youtube/netflix/sbs... video experience & net browsing. A logitech wireless KB w/ touch pad may be an option too if you want to locate the pc elsewhere & just have a keyboard for controls. (the M key toggles mute btw when viewing most stuff in Chrome). Its hard to go back to free to air viewing after on demand ad free/pauseable/FF-able viewing
Recently bough an 5500U laptop (HP 15s) and I can tell it's a pleasantly snappy machine with all of the essentials for suprisingly low price of 600 euros. Currently waiting the RAM upgrade to arrive, since the only area it was lacking is that it came only with a single stick 8GB/3200Mhz. Very glad I didn't went for the i5+Geforce MX330 models from other brands - the price is much higher for basically zero to none gain, even worse in some areas than the 5500U.
If you're not gaming you shouldn't go for a model with dedicated GPU in an ultrabook or whatever they call these 15-25W low power laptops. Ok, maybe you can use the encoder or something, not 100% sure. But for people who only use browsers and the office suite, it's a big waste. So double the reasons you should be happy for not going to the i5+MX330 :)
@@Winnetou17 Look man, unless the ryzen 5 5500u is significantly cheaper than the 5600h models and more portable, the 5600h ones make more sense since they're simply better value and similarly priced. Otherwise just get a 4500u cheapo laptop,
@@siyzerix I went with R5 5600H since they're "Zen 3" and same price as 5500U in my area. Also because, upgrade CPU down the line it's likely impossible... But I will not look for some thing with dedicted GPU like 1650 since it'ill take a lot of power (Watts) so it's no longer an ultrabook.
Nice i just got the Asus Vivobook D15", 4 days ago for my dad with the 5500U (8GB ram) for 499€, runs very nice only the plastic shell fells a bit thin but still very good imo.
Great processor. I have the Acer Aspire 7 with 5500U,16gb ram and Nvidia 1650 graphics. For an entry level gaming laptop, performance is quite decent and most importantly, the thermals are good due to the lower power consumption of the 5500U. Purchased for $800 equivalent
Bought the Dell Inspiron 15. R5 5500u + 54w battery and slim bezels. Has upgradeble storage and ram. 1080p anti reflective screen. It was under €598 at the time. For the price an awesome trackpad and great build quality. Perfect for casual use.
I was looking at the same due to my brother having the r7 model, does the r5 model also include the same fingerprint sensor or is that exclusive to the more expensive model
as a student who needed a new laptop for uni i bought a 5500u laptop(Vivobook 15) and im really happy with it honestly, got it on sale for £500 and it does everything i need it to do and it doesnt feel slow. i will likely upgrade the ram as 8gb feels a bit tight occasionally
The infinity symbol on the battery literally had me laughing out loud. That lie alone would stop me from buying the computer. It's hard to trust anything the Asus says about their product after seeing that bit of tripe.
It's a perfectly good APU though. BS marketing doesn't bother me if the product is actually a good value, which this CPU seems to be (as long as there's nothing wrong with the rest of the laptop)
@@MandoMTL dont be like that brother hes pointing for performance He got a point there unless youre going for another point eg. Screen And let say it was marketed 75hz high performance monitor but with 5-6 ms response rate If youre a consumer within tight budget there will always something you need to sacrifice for
It doesn't seem right to muddy the waters by having both Zen 2 and Zen 3 5000 series products. I thought the point of pretty much skipping 4000 series CPUs was to avoid the confusion they had previously caused with different generation products on the same numbers.
I got an HP 14 with a 5500U, 1x8gb DDR4-3200, and a 256gb 2280 SSD, for $475. I upgraded it with a 512gb 2280 SSD, a second 1x8gb DDR4-3200, paid about $50 each. This thing absolutely wrecks for under $600. Plays Elder Scrolls Online native 1080p low almost as good as my Ryzen 7 1700 desktop. There's no bullshit in the stats. I've checked out the clocks on hwinfo64 and it frequently boosts to 4ghz and it sustains 1.8ghz on the GPU at all times. I upgraded from an Ivy Bridge i5 MSI GE60 laptop with GT 650M. World of difference. Half the weight, half the height, 4x the performance.
We have gotten three laptops with the 5500U recently, including an ASUS 14 inch with a 500MB SDD and 16 GB of RAM for $550 and a 17 inch HP with 12 GB RAM and 1 TB HDD for $450.
My Lenovo IdeaPad slim 5 pro with a 5800u 16gb has just shipped!!! Paid $1100 aud with student discount, these Ryzen chips are unbelievable, I can't wait!
"[...]especially if you're upgrading from like, a 7th gen intel laptop" and here I am with a 3rd gen core i5 laptop thinking "maybe I should start planning for an upgrade in a couple of years" lmao
The thing about Zen2 cores in the 5000 mobile lineup is that ... there were barely any Zen2 laptops on the market before Zen3 launched. Only Zen+. Should you preferably buy something with Zen3? Yes. Is it still a tremendous upgrade if you get something with Zen2? Yes
But when you don't need Zen3 performance, the Zen2 price matters more. Enthusiasts ignore how most ppl use their laptop, I've had people borrow my decade old A10 based one and like it saying it's fast :) I upgraded it with an SSD years ago.
I upgraded from an Acer Aspire with an i3 370M (1st gen!!) to an Acer with the Ryzen 5 5500u. A 10 years leap. What a jump!! But, you know what? I had slammed a 512 Gb SSD in the old i3 370M (6Gb ram) a while ago and it was still rocking. It could not be upgraded to windows 10 because of graphics card compatibility issues and that's why I decided to buy a new laptop. I kinda feel robbed by the software industry. That i3 was still fine. Anyway, that 5500u rocks. I can compare with my R7 3700X desktop and it feels powerfull.
Managed to take advantage of a Dell sale here in the UK and grabbed an Inspiron 14 with the Ryzen 5 5500u for £385 delivered. Its a decent little laptop for the price and more than capable for everyday tasks. Just had to get rid of all the Dell bloatware.
I'm glad I found this. I've been looking into some of those 'mini-pc' computers and was wondering how to judge the various cpus. The benchmarks in here are making it much easier to judge them :)
That's a very nice laptop. My mom has the older RYZEN 5 2500U variant. It looks good, has a good screen with good touch functionality, good chassis with very little flex, good keyboard, good speakers and a reasonable trackpad. If you don't need a discrete GPU it's a great option. Though it does require two hands to open it (if you care about that).
@@CheapBastard1988 dam 2500U i think Ryzen was kinda bad back then , but the new 4500U and 5500U are real champs , and the laptop is really good from the reviews i read.
@Dark Souls They were better value than Intel. On sale they were cheaper than dual core i3's, a lot faster in multi core performance and had a better GPU (nearly the same as the current gen AMD ones but on a larger transistor lithography). Also many laptops with the Zen architecture (mostly Lenovo ones) had single channel memory which really gimped performance. The HP Envy X360 on the other hand has always had dual channel memory. So it's faster than its competitors from that time with the same chip. But I was mainly looking for a good laptop with a very cheap CPU (it could have been a Celeron or Athlon for all I care). Because my mom wouldn't notice any CPU performance difference but would notice a crappy screen, crappy keyboard, crappy speakers and the lack of an SSD. She uses an external mouse so she wouldn't have noticed an awesome or crappy trackpad so this mediocre one is fine. It's usually in power saving mode but with the screen brightness up. The cooling fan hardly ever goes on. Still there are never hitches in performance but that is to be expected. Because even the 2.5W Intel Atom CPU's from 2014 could already run Windows and basic tasks without any problems (those chips were mostly held back by the often very cheap eMMC flash they were usually combined with).
That is my laptop The ASUS 5500U with the 16 gigs.. I am loving this thing.. Been using Ryzen controller and upped the TDP's to 30 watts.. Holds clocks better with that on. But it doesn't turbo any higher just longer..
Recently upgraded from HP Zen 1 2500U laptop to Acer Zen 3 5600U laptop. Similar battery-only longevity on travel but much superior performance in code compilation and gaming. It can run Control in 720P with Low setting at around 40FPS.
I too just replaced my old Acer Nitro 5 with Ryzen 5 2500U and RX560X with a ThinkPad E14 equipped with a 5600U but obviously no discrete GPU. I wanted a more portable and more durable machine since my Acer's screen frame snapped with just normal opening and closing of the lid. The TN display is a downgrade, though. IPS is much better.
Bought one for my niece, HP 15.6...added ram ( From 8gb single channel, to 32gb Dual channel ) and upgraded the 512gb WD ssd to a 1 TB Samsung 980....huge differences those upgrades made. I also freshly loaded Win 11 onto the new ssd, this would be a laptop even I could use on a daily basis...as it plays 4K video on the native 1080p screen beautifully.
I'm upgrading a 10yo Acer i3 370M laptop, which microsoft wont let me upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. It had 6gb of ram, a hdd, and Intel's graphics. I ordered an Acer Aspire 5 with Ryzen 5500u, 8gb of ram,a 512Gb nvme ssd. The biggest upgrade I ever did (last 30 years). I think it will be perfect for me. (My 1st computer was a 386 DX2/40 with 4 Mb of ram and 100 Mb HDD. 🤣)
According to Patreon members, he attempted six times. By the way, he reuses that clip in this video. You can see in his review about Ryzen 5 4600U (or Ryzen Pro 5 4650U since had only that in that time).
Wish the 5600U was available. All in all, still happy with the 5500U over the 1135G7 in the laptop I got my brother, very similar pricing but overall a better hardware option due to the other things that the AMD system had improved over the Intel system.
I literally just bought this for my mom on Newegg thinking it was a bottom of the barrel deal lol. The specs did seem surprisingly decent for the money so I went with it. Very surprised this video was made about it.
Hey, have a look at the aspire 7 from acer with this cpu and also with a gddr6 gtx 1650, its awesome in combination and imo the best college/back to school laptop
If ever Lenovo had decided to bring out the 16GB RAM option for the Slim 7-14" (4800U), my brother would've instantly bought it. It's a shame really that such a powerful laptop was limited to just 8GB without the option to upgrade
Interestingly, Slim 7 with 4000U series APUs became available this year over here in Lithuania, more so than 5000U refresh. And there was a 4700U-16GB-512GB model for just €800 (plus 4500U 16GB 512GB for €770), which was a great deal (being a Slim 7, not some junk entry tier chassis).
@@NeblogaiLT exactly! Over here in India also the Slim 7-4800U/8/512 has been available for many months at a very good price (below $1000) but sadly no higher RAM options otherwise its an excellent all-metal machine
The way things are right now Intel and AMD are pretty on Par with each other. I don't think in a blind test you would be able to tell which is which, Pages and tabs open up similar both are quick in single and multi as long as core count and threads match.. I do prefer AMD tho it seems like you get more for your money with them.. Especially over the last 4/5 years..
Not a fan of refreshes that are mostly rebrand. However, I understand why this might be the way to go for AMD: The manufactoring process. Basically, from what I've read, Zen 2 was made on TSMC N7, Zen 3 is on N7P. They need to use their resources, allocated by TSMC, efficiently. So it seems that they decided to use N7 for most of the parts with lower margin and rather than backporting Zen 3 to N7, they keep using Zen 2 there. Yeah, maybe they could have crushed Intel's hope in mobile, but at what cost? Would they ditch desktop CPUs? High-end GPUs?
Hey my Desktop is still using a 2700X with XFR on and I am totally happy with it.. The only thing I am missing is that 6800XT for 4K gaming.. God I wish I could find one for MSRP.. Loving all the Zen chips.. These new thin and lights are great though..
I also run an R7 2700 oced to 4Ghz. Totally alright CPU. Got an old Vega 56 tho which is reaching its limits. Although im still happy with it since is is the first Computer I ever had that can run AAA games in 1080p maxed out.
@@alouisschafer7212 I hear ya, I'm still using an RX480 LOL.. I am so pissed over the scalper pricing right now, because all I really need right now is a New GPU worth buying though..
It's the problem with monolithic design, and it will never fully go away until they master the chiplet approach down to the single core and single cache block. Consumers expect to pay for the performance level they're getting, but AMDs expense on each chip is the same. Therefore they need to make a calculation on how to not cut into their top end sales with too good mid range products, and likewise not eat their midrange by making the low end too good... but only releasing three laptop CPUs (one in each class) won't fly with OEMs and SIs either, as they're the ones who REALLY insist on segmentation. They refuse to pair a top end CPU and GPU with in a budget chassis with a "good enough" display. Each component needs to be "in the same class" in their eyes, so if AMD wants to be represented from $400 laptops to $2500 laptops.. they need to have "something appropriate" for each "class". Otherwise they'll just put Intel chips in the missing slots.
Yup im about to buy an HP Notebook with one of these and run Linux on it (probably Garuda might go with base Arch) Im surprised tha the notebook market seems to not be impacted at all by the global shortage right now.
5000U series are great deals- R3 almost as good as previous R5 (and R5- almost as previous R7), while offering better battery life too. I would not shy from buying a 5300U or 5400U at all if the laptop is for media consumption and running light games.
I bought a asus vivobook laptop with this cpu and with amd radeon graphics and all i can say is this laptop is amazing, good performance, ready for some games like csgo, tf2 even if it has 8b ram which means you can work and game at the same time. The only thing bad about it its the fans
I would love to buy laptop with Ryzen 7 5700u + thunderbolt 4 at 700-800 $ but i do not think something like that exists or will be on market any point :(
@@sawyerbass4661 It's the same process node, but the cache layout of Zen 2 means that they don't have to trash the entire chip if there's a flaw in the wrong spot in the L3. The 2x4 core layout gives them a better chance at getting something salvageable, and also the die is overall smaller than the Zen 3 counter part, again giving better odds of a usable product.
@@andersjjensen But tsmc's n7 node is so mature now (given that n5 has been out for some time and they are already moving past n5) that they are cranking out 6900xts with much larger die area. CPU dies are so much smaller than gpu dies and so this argument should not hold at this point of time.
One thing i would like to see in laptops for benchmarking is how well it can stream. Im just talking about a single 1080p webcam on ethernet but still would like to see what its live video encoding is like. I have a couple laptops and none of them can produce quality streams to twitch on any quality settings.
I ended up with the i5-11300h better single core and 300 off in multicore cpu-z Lower power consumption and a gtx 1650 acer nitro 5 not my main system just a laptop I have a 2070 super ryzen 5 3600 desktop so it's solid but 4 core 8 thread laptop is fine.
I'd love to see 35 or even 45w cramed through the 5500u and the 5700u to see what the performance difference would be. I know the 5900hx even when feed extra juice tend to Max out on performance at about 63w. The only time I saw 4.6 and slightly higher was in Linux never peaked past 4.5 in Windows 11 even with 95w available to it for boost and 80w for standard multithread on my Mech G3
and u dont sayin performance about amd ryzen 3 5300u in more voltage its a more powerfull vs ryzen 5 5500u im tested this machine....before the buying amd ryzen 3 5300u in special dayd in 300 dollars
Hmmm… my asus zenbook with a 5500u scores way higher than the benches here. I’m wondering if it uses better components inside and different bios?? For example cinebench r23 multi core got me an average score of 7850 and single core at 1420. I’m thinking it’s just differences in build and components.
@@el-3omda476 honestly impressive for the price. Better than my old lenovo t470… but I’m not going to say it’s amazing. Maybe 5-8 hrs on full charge… not sure
I ended up with a 5500u because I got a really good deal(under 400USD). It's good enough for my laptop needs, though if it was my primary system it would just not do it for me. That's what my 5950x desktop is for.
My only complaint is labeling it a 5000 series when it's Zen 2. That's confusing. I read the fine print so I knew what I was getting but the numbering sort of implies it's better than it actually is.
At least comet lake u provided better cpu performance (at least with the 10710u vs 1065g7) while ice lake u provided better igpu performance, so consumers can choose according to their needs. Zen 2 vs zen 3 is just zen 3 being better all round while zen 2 is cheaper and somehow more available.
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep they had no base design of RDNA for APU or for a small mobile die. They had been recycling vega for multiple gens, they also didn’t want to risk it being late, cezzanne still isn’t supposed high end it is still the budget offering they haven’t released the high because there wasn’t any competition and demand was absurd.
1:10 Can we just appreciate Tim on that spin, totally nailing it.
yes very satisfying
how even?! xD
We want the behind the scenes on that slide in!
How many takes did this take please answer 🙏
I think he must have done really high frame rate stop motion. It was too good.
the funny thing about this is that he calls it “dirt cheap” when let’s be honest we’re all here because we’re on a sharp budget and want to see if this processor can run games decently
Pretty much esoeciay now that I'm eyeing a deal with a Ryzen 5500 u for 469 dollars
@@elleuga3054 I had bought a HP 15 with 5500U some days ago. Awesome deal
@@gradientO how is the screen brightness ? I saw it's 250 nits and saw some reviews saying it was a pretty dim display
@@elleuga3054 its actually decent , i m writing this on that exact laptop. its a beast for the money paid on it (450 euros)
@@gradientO i wanted to buy that too but i heard the single pipe cooling kinda hurts the clockspeed as its not quite enough to cool the APU. what do you think about this?
One thing I notice right away that is fantastic for an affordable laptop, real ports! I loathe the trend on premium laptops away from USB type A ports, but the idea seems to be that if you can afford $1500+ for your laptop, then you can also afford wireless peripherals and a thunderbolt dock.
I don't know it depends, if they use the space for better cooling and other useful features i agree with them on saving space and relying on docks and dongles for ports
So true! That's why I love the Aero & GE-Raider laptops, sure their design/profile isn't as sleek as a Razer or Zephyrus but they pack in all the ports!
Heck even my 7yr old laptop (HP Envy) has 4xUSB-A, HDMI, full-size SD card slot, RJ-45, HP/mic combo.
I can imagine replacing the 2xUSB-A with 2xType-C and upgrading the thermal system by making it not so slim
@@sushimshah2896 times change any laptop from 2015 and below gave you the full suite of porte
I would pay more to have something integrated, not removed lol
Thunderbolt ports are typically only found on more premium options anyway. And that port is way more versatile than the type A.
1 $30 tb3 adapter gives all of the functionality of type A and more.
Yo that Ryzen slide in tho. Practical effects off the chain here.
Absolutely [chef's kiss] perfect
Just bought the E15 gen 3 with this APU at launch for $900. Perfect to help my grandparents stay connected during the Sydney lockdown. Seeing it beat the 7700k in benchmarks was insane.
Damn... I'm still having trouble wrapping my head on that. 7700K was de facto choice for several years. I still have people using it. To think that a mobile processor beats it....
Hey did you know gaming can help elders stay sharp and active !
Put a simple platformer on that laptop and let grandpa unleash his inner gamer !
@@MrWillypanda88 well that's what you get when we have a monopoly and any company (in this case Intel) gets complacent.
I think in HUB's 5800H or 5900HX video (or maybe the Strix G15 AE), he also showed that it beat any Intel 8 core desktop CPU as well!! 🤯🤯
I dont know how long an HDMI cable can be, or how far from the screen they wish to sit, but plug in a ~27"+ 1080p LCD TV & put the laptop on a coffee table in front of the couch, & use the touch pad & keyboard as controls for some great youtube/netflix/sbs... video experience & net browsing.
A logitech wireless KB w/ touch pad may be an option too if you want to locate the pc elsewhere & just have a keyboard for controls. (the M key toggles mute btw when viewing most stuff in Chrome). Its hard to go back to free to air viewing after on demand ad free/pauseable/FF-able viewing
@@sushimshah2896 Yup for sure, I am so happy with my 4650G now, 6 cores, 12 threads for less than €200. Such a bargain
Recently bough an 5500U laptop (HP 15s) and I can tell it's a pleasantly snappy machine with all of the essentials for suprisingly low price of 600 euros. Currently waiting the RAM upgrade to arrive, since the only area it was lacking is that it came only with a single stick 8GB/3200Mhz. Very glad I didn't went for the i5+Geforce MX330 models from other brands - the price is much higher for basically zero to none gain, even worse in some areas than the 5500U.
You do know there's 700-750 euro gtx 1650 laptops with a 5600h. 5600h and 4600h laptops aren't far off in pricing to the 5500u laptops.
If you're not gaming you shouldn't go for a model with dedicated GPU in an ultrabook or whatever they call these 15-25W low power laptops. Ok, maybe you can use the encoder or something, not 100% sure. But for people who only use browsers and the office suite, it's a big waste. So double the reasons you should be happy for not going to the i5+MX330 :)
@@Winnetou17 Look man, unless the ryzen 5 5500u is significantly cheaper than the 5600h models and more portable, the 5600h ones make more sense since they're simply better value and similarly priced. Otherwise just get a 4500u cheapo laptop,
@@siyzerix I went with R5 5600H since they're "Zen 3" and same price as 5500U in my area. Also because, upgrade CPU down the line it's likely impossible... But I will not look for some thing with dedicted GPU like 1650 since it'ill take a lot of power (Watts) so it's no longer an ultrabook.
@@siyzerix where?
That was a sick CPU box spin.
I bet they had to give it at least 5500 tries to make it work
Yea watched it 3 times trying figure out how they did that exactly lol
Forget bottle flip challenge, CPU box spin challenge is where it's at now
Fake. Clearly reversed.
When?
Nice i just got the Asus Vivobook D15", 4 days ago for my dad with the 5500U (8GB ram) for 499€, runs very nice only the plastic shell fells a bit thin but still very good imo.
Might be a stretch but do you know what the performance in fortnite,genshin and cs go are like?
@@shibbarth lmao
@@shibbarth i May be late but there is a video on UA-cam. Just search ryzen 5 5500u
@@shibbarth I'm playing victoria 3 on medium settings and everything runs smooth apart from the fact that it does tend to get very hot.
Great processor. I have the Acer Aspire 7 with 5500U,16gb ram and Nvidia 1650 graphics. For an entry level gaming laptop, performance is quite decent and most importantly, the thermals are good due to the lower power consumption of the 5500U. Purchased for $800 equivalent
Bhai, does 5500U runs hot when running hours doing normal task like MS office?
@@tobacco118 No
Bought the Dell Inspiron 15. R5 5500u + 54w battery and slim bezels. Has upgradeble storage and ram. 1080p anti reflective screen. It was under €598 at the time. For the price an awesome trackpad and great build quality. Perfect for casual use.
Agreed, picked up the same a little while back and it's a fantastic value
I was looking at the same due to my brother having the r7 model, does the r5 model also include the same fingerprint sensor or is that exclusive to the more expensive model
@@kalimkhawaja8605 Yup, my Ryzen 5 model has the fingerprint scanner.
@@mazda3guy is it the aluminium body too, build quality looks great
Bought the Dell Inspiron 14 2 in 1 with this CPU for 579€. Hopefully it was the right choice 🤞
I just upgraded to one of these from an i5 6500U. going from 2C/4T to 6C/12T is incredible
as a student who needed a new laptop for uni i bought a 5500u laptop(Vivobook 15) and im really happy with it honestly, got it on sale for £500 and it does everything i need it to do and it doesnt feel slow. i will likely upgrade the ram as 8gb feels a bit tight occasionally
it’s tight even if not gaming?
Lol about the sticker: you gotta love marketing. More and more it's verging on false advertising and downright delusional.
Yea true, the line between false advertisement and marketing is really blurred nowadays and there is nothing consumers can do about it except research
The infinity symbol on the battery literally had me laughing out loud. That lie alone would stop me from buying the computer. It's hard to trust anything the Asus says about their product after seeing that bit of tripe.
It's a perfectly good APU though. BS marketing doesn't bother me if the product is actually a good value, which this CPU seems to be (as long as there's nothing wrong with the rest of the laptop)
@@MandoMTL dont be like that brother hes pointing for performance
He got a point there unless youre going for another point eg. Screen
And let say it was marketed 75hz high performance monitor but with 5-6 ms response rate
If youre a consumer within tight budget there will always something you need to sacrifice for
I ripped all the stickers off my new laptop, including the Ryzen and Vega stickers.
It doesn't seem right to muddy the waters by having both Zen 2 and Zen 3 5000 series products. I thought the point of pretty much skipping 4000 series CPUs was to avoid the confusion they had previously caused with different generation products on the same numbers.
I got an HP 14 with a 5500U, 1x8gb DDR4-3200, and a 256gb 2280 SSD, for $475. I upgraded it with a 512gb 2280 SSD, a second 1x8gb DDR4-3200, paid about $50 each. This thing absolutely wrecks for under $600. Plays Elder Scrolls Online native 1080p low almost as good as my Ryzen 7 1700 desktop. There's no bullshit in the stats. I've checked out the clocks on hwinfo64 and it frequently boosts to 4ghz and it sustains 1.8ghz on the GPU at all times. I upgraded from an Ivy Bridge i5 MSI GE60 laptop with GT 650M. World of difference. Half the weight, half the height, 4x the performance.
I like how these laptops don't come with soldered RAM
We have gotten three laptops with the 5500U recently, including an ASUS 14 inch with a 500MB SDD and 16 GB of RAM for $550 and a 17 inch HP with 12 GB RAM and 1 TB HDD for $450.
500 mb?
@@hanif_tegarrrDoh! Maybe GB
Where did you get the hp for $450?
@@relativelytired Costco. It was a Memorial Day sale.
This is the level of laptop I can afford.
I'm barely starting to see any Ryzen 5000 series laptops anywhere. And no trace of the 5600U I'm interested in...
Just ordered an ideapad 3 from Walmart with a 5500u and 8gb of ram for $430. Probably one of the best non-used laptop deals out there that I’ve seen
i got one today its awesome
Got a Lenovo ideaPad 3 with 12gbs of ram and this cpu for $380 used on ebay. Can't beat the performance at this price point
My Lenovo IdeaPad slim 5 pro with a 5800u 16gb has just shipped!!! Paid $1100 aud with student discount, these Ryzen chips are unbelievable, I can't wait!
"[...]especially if you're upgrading from like, a 7th gen intel laptop"
and here I am with a 3rd gen core i5 laptop thinking "maybe I should start planning for an upgrade in a couple of years" lmao
The thing about Zen2 cores in the 5000 mobile lineup is that ... there were barely any Zen2 laptops on the market before Zen3 launched. Only Zen+.
Should you preferably buy something with Zen3? Yes.
Is it still a tremendous upgrade if you get something with Zen2? Yes
wait what? in southeast asia, zen 2 already exist since years ago, but the price still a little bit higher
But when you don't need Zen3 performance, the Zen2 price matters more. Enthusiasts ignore how most ppl use their laptop, I've had people borrow my decade old A10 based one and like it saying it's fast :) I upgraded it with an SSD years ago.
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I upgraded from an Acer Aspire with an i3 370M (1st gen!!) to an Acer with the Ryzen 5 5500u. A 10 years leap. What a jump!!
But, you know what? I had slammed a 512 Gb SSD in the old i3 370M (6Gb ram) a while ago and it was still rocking. It could not be upgraded to windows 10 because of graphics card compatibility issues and that's why I decided to buy a new laptop. I kinda feel robbed by the software industry. That i3 was still fine.
Anyway, that 5500u rocks. I can compare with my R7 3700X desktop and it feels powerfull.
@@gradientO it's powerfull.
Managed to take advantage of a Dell sale here in the UK and grabbed an Inspiron 14 with the Ryzen 5 5500u for £385 delivered.
Its a decent little laptop for the price and more than capable for everyday tasks.
Just had to get rid of all the Dell bloatware.
1:10 love how cool you rolled the ryzen next to the laptop
I'm glad I found this. I've been looking into some of those 'mini-pc' computers and was wondering how to judge the various cpus. The benchmarks in here are making it much easier to judge them :)
Getting the HP envy x360 with this processor , seems like really good value
That's a very nice laptop. My mom has the older RYZEN 5 2500U variant. It looks good, has a good screen with good touch functionality, good chassis with very little flex, good keyboard, good speakers and a reasonable trackpad. If you don't need a discrete GPU it's a great option. Though it does require two hands to open it (if you care about that).
@@CheapBastard1988 dam 2500U i think Ryzen was kinda bad back then , but the new 4500U and 5500U are real champs , and the laptop is really good from the reviews i read.
@Dark Souls They were better value than Intel. On sale they were cheaper than dual core i3's, a lot faster in multi core performance and had a better GPU (nearly the same as the current gen AMD ones but on a larger transistor lithography). Also many laptops with the Zen architecture (mostly Lenovo ones) had single channel memory which really gimped performance. The HP Envy X360 on the other hand has always had dual channel memory. So it's faster than its competitors from that time with the same chip.
But I was mainly looking for a good laptop with a very cheap CPU (it could have been a Celeron or Athlon for all I care). Because my mom wouldn't notice any CPU performance difference but would notice a crappy screen, crappy keyboard, crappy speakers and the lack of an SSD. She uses an external mouse so she wouldn't have noticed an awesome or crappy trackpad so this mediocre one is fine.
It's usually in power saving mode but with the screen brightness up. The cooling fan hardly ever goes on. Still there are never hitches in performance but that is to be expected. Because even the 2.5W Intel Atom CPU's from 2014 could already run Windows and basic tasks without any problems (those chips were mostly held back by the often very cheap eMMC flash they were usually combined with).
@@CheapBastard1988 I bet battery life is not good
That is my laptop The ASUS 5500U with the 16 gigs.. I am loving this thing.. Been using Ryzen controller and upped the TDP's to 30 watts.. Holds clocks better with that on. But it doesn't turbo any higher just longer..
Recently upgraded from HP Zen 1 2500U laptop to Acer Zen 3 5600U laptop. Similar battery-only longevity on travel but much superior performance in code compilation and gaming. It can run Control in 720P with Low setting at around 40FPS.
I too just replaced my old Acer Nitro 5 with Ryzen 5 2500U and RX560X with a ThinkPad E14 equipped with a 5600U but obviously no discrete GPU. I wanted a more portable and more durable machine since my Acer's screen frame snapped with just normal opening and closing of the lid. The TN display is a downgrade, though. IPS is much better.
My 5500u runs it 720p 41fps average. When it comes to gaming their not that much different
I swear, if I have to hear the sequence of letters and numbers of "1135g7" one more time, I will implode
1135g7
*boom*
Bought one for my niece, HP 15.6...added ram ( From 8gb single channel, to 32gb Dual channel ) and upgraded the 512gb WD ssd to a 1 TB Samsung 980....huge differences those upgrades made. I also freshly loaded Win 11 onto the new ssd, this would be a laptop even I could use on a daily basis...as it plays 4K video on the native 1080p screen beautifully.
2:05 Sticker says Ryzen 4000 series... So yeah, the sticker guy got carried away.
Well the sticker guy is not wrong either. 😂
Well technically it is, but nice catch bro! 👍🏻
They were all dead..
I'm upgrading a 10yo Acer i3 370M laptop, which microsoft wont let me upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. It had 6gb of ram, a hdd, and Intel's graphics.
I ordered an Acer Aspire 5 with Ryzen 5500u, 8gb of ram,a 512Gb nvme ssd. The biggest upgrade I ever did (last 30 years). I think it will be perfect for me.
(My 1st computer was a 386 DX2/40 with 4 Mb of ram and 100 Mb HDD. 🤣)
They just could have made it R5 5555U just for the lols
Intel name parody
No, R5 5555S :P
Call it R5 INTER5TELLA 5555U and make a Daft Punk tie-in :).
When I see 555, it reminds me of IC timer LM555...
At least it doesnt sound like youre choking on numbers and alphabets
Eg. i5 1135g7
Bought a Lenovo Ideapad 3 with this CPU and 8GB RAM for $449 USD. Absolute steal
I’ve seen laptops with these under $500. They are stellar values for the $!
1:10 how many shots did it take to rotate shove that amd box?
According to Patreon members, he attempted six times. By the way, he reuses that clip in this video. You can see in his review about Ryzen 5 4600U (or Ryzen Pro 5 4650U since had only that in that time).
Just came up on a laptop with one of these. How far AMD has come, I remember the A4 in my 2010 laptop
Good to see Tim's moustache has already grown back.
I think he's growing a full beard, which will be slightly less entertaining I feel
Yeah I got the Lenovo Yoga slim 7 4700U 16gb with 60.4Wh battery his summer, best buy I did in a long time.
Wish the 5600U was available. All in all, still happy with the 5500U over the 1135G7 in the laptop I got my brother, very similar pricing but overall a better hardware option due to the other things that the AMD system had improved over the Intel system.
I literally just bought this for my mom on Newegg thinking it was a bottom of the barrel deal lol. The specs did seem surprisingly decent for the money so I went with it. Very surprised this video was made about it.
It seems to be a good value product. For your mom, it's probably a lot more powerful than it needs to be.
Shame they didn't have them for mini pc's. At least not available in the asus pn51 line, 5300u it's still plenty for my mom though.
Hey, have a look at the aspire 7 from acer with this cpu and also with a gddr6 gtx 1650, its awesome in combination and imo the best college/back to school laptop
Well put together, thanks for the info!
Buy when "real" zen3 is dirt cheap. I'm dirt, they're cheap. Guess who's winner?
If ever Lenovo had decided to bring out the 16GB RAM option for the Slim 7-14" (4800U), my brother would've instantly bought it.
It's a shame really that such a powerful laptop was limited to just 8GB without the option to upgrade
Interestingly, Slim 7 with 4000U series APUs became available this year over here in Lithuania, more so than 5000U refresh. And there was a 4700U-16GB-512GB model for just €800 (plus 4500U 16GB 512GB for €770), which was a great deal (being a Slim 7, not some junk entry tier chassis).
@@NeblogaiLT exactly! Over here in India also the Slim 7-4800U/8/512 has been available for many months at a very good price (below $1000) but sadly no higher RAM options otherwise its an excellent all-metal machine
Very good video!!
What model is the ASUS laptop exactly?
Got a $400 hp laptop with a bad screen and cheap build but I can't believe you can get a 6 core laptop for $400 today.
The way things are right now Intel and AMD are pretty on Par with each other. I don't think in a blind test you would be able to tell which is which, Pages and tabs open up similar both are quick in single and multi as long as core count and threads match.. I do prefer AMD tho it seems like you get more for your money with them.. Especially over the last 4/5 years..
Not a fan of refreshes that are mostly rebrand. However, I understand why this might be the way to go for AMD: The manufactoring process.
Basically, from what I've read, Zen 2 was made on TSMC N7, Zen 3 is on N7P. They need to use their resources, allocated by TSMC, efficiently.
So it seems that they decided to use N7 for most of the parts with lower margin and rather than backporting Zen 3 to N7, they keep using Zen 2 there.
Yeah, maybe they could have crushed Intel's hope in mobile, but at what cost? Would they ditch desktop CPUs? High-end GPUs?
Man, the fact you bench according to TDP is so refreshing.
Hey my Desktop is still using a 2700X with XFR on and I am totally happy with it.. The only thing I am missing is that 6800XT for 4K gaming.. God I wish I could find one for MSRP.. Loving all the Zen chips.. These new thin and lights are great though..
I also run an R7 2700 oced to 4Ghz. Totally alright CPU.
Got an old Vega 56 tho which is reaching its limits. Although im still happy with it since is is the first Computer I ever had that can run AAA games in 1080p maxed out.
@@alouisschafer7212 I hear ya, I'm still using an RX480 LOL.. I am so pissed over the scalper pricing right now, because all I really need right now is a New GPU worth buying though..
That box spin was smooth AF 👌🏿
Please make a review/recap video of the different mobile CPUs and GPUs and their price to performance. Thanks.
Very detailed analysis. Subscribed.
I bought a Beelink 5500U mini. I have 32 gig ram and 2 500 gig sdd drives. It is quick and I paid right at 300
Why 5600U is not on the chart? I guess most people would want to decide which to get as the price difference is just $30 between 5500U vs 5600U laptop
It would be super interesting if you started to include the M1 Apple SoCs on these slides.
I guess the lack of SMT on the 4000 equivalent part was deliberate market segmentation. That's so Intel-like. How things change.
It's the problem with monolithic design, and it will never fully go away until they master the chiplet approach down to the single core and single cache block. Consumers expect to pay for the performance level they're getting, but AMDs expense on each chip is the same. Therefore they need to make a calculation on how to not cut into their top end sales with too good mid range products, and likewise not eat their midrange by making the low end too good... but only releasing three laptop CPUs (one in each class) won't fly with OEMs and SIs either, as they're the ones who REALLY insist on segmentation. They refuse to pair a top end CPU and GPU with in a budget chassis with a "good enough" display. Each component needs to be "in the same class" in their eyes, so if AMD wants to be represented from $400 laptops to $2500 laptops.. they need to have "something appropriate" for each "class". Otherwise they'll just put Intel chips in the missing slots.
Been waiting for this one
Thanks for shaving, not sure when you did it, but keep doing it!
Yup im about to buy an HP Notebook with one of these and run Linux on it (probably Garuda might go with base Arch)
Im surprised tha the notebook market seems to not be impacted at all by the global shortage right now.
I was gonna pull the trigger on a 5500u thinking it was a 5600u with lower clocks or something. Thanks for this video
interesting to know about 5400U and 5300U versus 4500U
5000U series are great deals- R3 almost as good as previous R5 (and R5- almost as previous R7), while offering better battery life too. I would not shy from buying a 5300U or 5400U at all if the laptop is for media consumption and running light games.
Got an ideapad 3 for $429 with this cpu. Great deal.
1:12 how often did you try for the right spin? :D
I bought a asus vivobook laptop with this cpu and with amd radeon graphics and all i can say is this laptop is amazing, good performance, ready for some games like csgo, tf2 even if it has 8b ram which means you can work and game at the same time.
The only thing bad about it its the fans
I would love to buy laptop with Ryzen 7 5700u + thunderbolt 4 at 700-800 $ but i do not think something like that exists or will be on market any point :(
Waiting for this but with Zen3 + RDNA2
4650u was everywhere, never could figure out why there were so few 4600u
4650u? isnt that basically 4600u for office?
Awesome video, really helping with the buying decisions!
Thanks again much appreciated
wow that spin just nailed it
I suspect AMD realized they get higher yields from zen 2 over zen 3, due to maturity. This enables good margin at lower price points.
It's literally the same process dude. It's just a lower die size and probably some left over 4500us they can just unlock the threads on.
@@sawyerbass4661 It's the same process node, but the cache layout of Zen 2 means that they don't have to trash the entire chip if there's a flaw in the wrong spot in the L3. The 2x4 core layout gives them a better chance at getting something salvageable, and also the die is overall smaller than the Zen 3 counter part, again giving better odds of a usable product.
@@andersjjensen But tsmc's n7 node is so mature now (given that n5 has been out for some time and they are already moving past n5) that they are cranking out 6900xts with much larger die area. CPU dies are so much smaller than gpu dies and so this argument should not hold at this point of time.
One thing i would like to see in laptops for benchmarking is how well it can stream. Im just talking about a single 1080p webcam on ethernet but still would like to see what its live video encoding is like. I have a couple laptops and none of them can produce quality streams to twitch on any quality settings.
I got a hp laptop Ryzen 7 5700U, 16gigs mem, 1tb hd, for 700 euros, it's a beast.
I love how I commented about the 5500U in the last video and now this video is here, such a clutch
Hope you're okay in AUS. The COVID concentration camps in Australia are sickening
Send help.
I ended up with the i5-11300h better single core and 300 off in multicore cpu-z Lower power consumption and a gtx 1650 acer nitro 5 not my main system just a laptop I have a 2070 super ryzen 5 3600 desktop so it's solid but 4 core 8 thread laptop is fine.
I'd love to see 35 or even 45w cramed through the 5500u and the 5700u to see what the performance difference would be. I know the 5900hx even when feed extra juice tend to Max out on performance at about 63w. The only time I saw 4.6 and slightly higher was in Linux never peaked past 4.5 in Windows 11 even with 95w available to it for boost and 80w for standard multithread on my Mech G3
I overclocked my hp 5500u from 25w to 30w when I’m gaming and it’s a huge game changer.
and u dont sayin performance about amd ryzen 3 5300u in more voltage its a more powerfull vs ryzen 5 5500u im tested this machine....before the buying amd ryzen 3 5300u in special dayd in 300 dollars
@@vladpostolovskuy7348 I have 0 idea what u just said
Hmmm… my asus zenbook with a 5500u scores way higher than the benches here. I’m wondering if it uses better components inside and different bios?? For example cinebench r23 multi core got me an average score of 7850 and single core at 1420. I’m thinking it’s just differences in build and components.
Forgot to mention… it dose have an Nvidia discrete video card.
Just got an acer aspire 5 with this in it. Will see how this goes for my coding boot camp where I have 1-2 projects open and tabs browsing
how did it go , did you like the laptop
@@el-3omda476 yes the ryzen 5 could handle that work load no problem at all
@@hownotto4067 how's the battery life ?
@@el-3omda476 honestly impressive for the price. Better than my old lenovo t470… but I’m not going to say it’s amazing. Maybe 5-8 hrs on full charge… not sure
@@hownotto4067 THX MATE
Waiting for my lenovo flex 5 with this thing in it! Gonna be a lot better than my old amd a12-9700p
Amigo por favor me podrías decir cual procesador es mejor para juegos, ryzen 5 5500u vega 7 o el ryzen 5 3450u vega 8
1:11 Wondering how many shots it took to get it right
Those extra cores help in streaming gameplay over discord?
I ended up with a 5500u because I got a really good deal(under 400USD). It's good enough for my laptop needs, though if it was my primary system it would just not do it for me. That's what my 5950x desktop is for.
My only complaint is labeling it a 5000 series when it's Zen 2. That's confusing. I read the fine print so I knew what I was getting but the numbering sort of implies it's better than it actually is.
how is ur gaming with that cpu?
@@pumpkinpooper Not great, but for more casual games it's OK enough.
I wonder how much better the 5700u ACTUALLY is at 25w, considering it would be limited by tdp more
1:10 The Spinny Boi Returns!
Imagine if intel randomly mixed architectures within a product lineup. People already complained about comet lake vs ice lake
At least comet lake u provided better cpu performance (at least with the 10710u vs 1065g7) while ice lake u provided better igpu performance, so consumers can choose according to their needs. Zen 2 vs zen 3 is just zen 3 being better all round while zen 2 is cheaper and somehow more available.
They do though don't they. Their models are also all over the place when it comes to features and performance between generations.
Will you notice large performance gains by adding 16gb of Ram?
Will I be able to run some engineering programs like SolidWorks and Autocad for studying with this processor?
Yes ,may be , tumne khareeda kya,kaise performance hai basic use ke.liye like autocad ,ravit
I just got the lg pavilion aero 13 for $670. It was a steal imo
So would you say that that 5-5500u is slightly worse than 7-5700U? I just can't see a VFM between those two.
"dirt cheap performance"
I give it a week before this CPU sells out now
Bought a month ago a bargain HP 5500u laptop and it's already depleted in my contry 😂
Looks like a cracking awesome value laptop CPU... Just wish it had RDNA2 instead of Vega.
Then it won’t be cheap
@@tanishqbhaiji103 Yeah fair enough. I guess even just a couple RDNA cores is gonna be waaaaay more expensive.
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep they had no base design of RDNA for APU or for a small mobile die. They had been recycling vega for multiple gens, they also didn’t want to risk it being late, cezzanne still isn’t supposed high end it is still the budget offering they haven’t released the high because there wasn’t any competition and demand was absurd.
Why? It wouldn't be any faster with the same memory subsystem.
@@TrueThanny memory is the bottleneck so, no without infinity cache, btw die size is another aspect they really wanted to keep cezzanne cheap.
Oh I remember that box slide, that was nice
He probably has a lamborghini worth of graphics cards behind him