It's a shame this channel isn't more popular. After a certain point, it's more valuable content than your main channel (you can only see so many defense encounters before they all start to look familiar, though it's always good to reinforce lessons you've already learned)
@@ASPextra even though @Ryan Boyer is right about this channel being a wealth of information, I also appreciate the daily mental rep of the main channel.
This channel -- especially each Friday's discussions with Tim Forshey -- is a gem. Today's discussion made me consider a corollary to the "distance buys you time, and time buys you options" mantra that could apply for home defense. Strengthened doors, a safe room, video doorbells, external and internal cameras, and so forth can buy you time in a home defense situation -- and that time gives you options. As y'all said, whilst deadly force is an option in home defense it needn't be the only one. Given the consequences of a perfectly legal self-defense shooting it should ideally only be used only when the other options are even worse.
The 4 D's of home defense. Deter, Detect, Delay, and then Defend. The gun is the last line of defense. Deter can be things like lights and signs, make your home the least palatable to the criminal element compared to your neighbors. Detect would be cameras and security systems, delay is making entry to the home harder with solid doors, security plates, window film, ... but delay can also mean making sure everyone knows where to go in an emergency to improve defense. Last is defend, when the threat is imminent you, or your family, should be able to stop it quickly. Make sure everyone knows their part. As for shooting. It's not WHERE you shoot someone, it's WHY you shoot them. But remember that securing a home means securing against common risks. Do you have the right number of fire extinguishers, smoke alarms, proper GFCI outlets in wet locations? Is you home secured and insured properly against hazards you can't just fix like weather risks? Do you monitor for water leaks? Laser focus on a criminal threat may blind people to other risks.
Absolutely correct, those other risks are statistically more likely. And that's coming from me, a guy who did have his front door kicked in by an intruder.
@David Penny Hello sir, I don't mind at all. What basically happened is the intruder thought no one was home and was so startled when I yelled at him he did a 180 and bolted. It was an attempted robbery. This happened 22 years ago. Two story house, 90 degree staircase with a landing at the top that looks directly down on the front door. We had gone to bed especially early because of odd working hours and it was winter and all the lights were off. I was awakened by a crashing noise. Then another. I jumped out of bed and as went into the hallway, another crash and the front door flew open. All lights are still off at this point. As front door flies open, a silhouetted figure casually strolls into my foyer. I yell from the top of the stairs 'You're dead M...F!!!". HE BOLTED. Probably thought I had a gun, but honestly I had no time to grab so much as my glasses. Several months later, I heard someone had been arrested who had been involved in a string of robberies in the area, but no way to know if it was same guy. I got ADT installed after that.
You do what you have to do to keep your loved ones safe. I have 4 grandbabies living with me. I would not want to come in this house unwanted. Peace be with you 🙏🏻😁
No, it certainly should. You get to be in FULL control of the space you occupy, and as such limit the ways that an aggressor can make their way to you. You get to create a fatal funnel for any aggressors, so there's a lot less variables for you. Police can be as late as they want while you train sights on the(preferably barricaded) door that accesses the room your in.
Another awesome benefit of living in Florida. A lot of front doors open out. The trade-off is if you don’t have some sort of plate in place it is easier to defeat the walks with a crowbar, but ain’t nobody kicking that door in.
@Active Self Protection John, I used to be on #TeamThinMints for years, but in the past few years, they’ve gotten an aftertaste, so I’m now on #TeamTagalongs instead. But just like with the Thin Mints, they’re even better straight out of the freezer with a big glass of cold milk. And on the SUPPOSED subject of this video (because we know it’s all about the Girl Scout Cookies), while I do have my front door reinforced with 3” screws, I can’t help but notice that just a few feet away is this HUGE hole in the wall that is closed with nothing more than glass… and there are more of those things on other sides of the house, too. And with respect to making a safe room by getting a steel door and reinforced frame, I have to point out that interior walls are made of gypsum-board and 2x4s… and they are INCREDIBLY easy to break through, even by accident. So what’s the point of reinforcing ONLY the door?
For some reason home invaders don't like to go through windows. It could be because breaking glass is loud and leaves sharp fragments that they have to lift themselves up and crawl over. You can get clear security film to increase the shatter resistance of windows and locks to prevent them from sliding open. If someone's breaking through your walls to get you, you're facing a slasher movie antagonist and you'd better have some firepower to back up the door. If you want to completely reinforce a room you can put wire mesh under the drywall to buy time. Unless you live in a bank vault it's all about buying time for you and the authorities to arrive.
@@bwofficial1776 Oh, I freely admit that any real-person-affordable safe room is strictly about buying time (and, frankly, so are the ones built like bomb shelters; you just get MORE time with them). But knowing how insanely easy it is to break gypsum board accidentally, even when you’re trying to be careful (hey, I can be clumsy, and I’m not exactly a featherweight), I can tell you that I don’t trust walls made from that and 2x4s on (if you’re lucky) a 16-inch center to protect me from anyone angry enough with me to break through/down my door or come through my window. If they can’t stand up to someone like me tripping, they sure can’t stand up to an angry adult who’s TRYING to get past or through them. And if you’re unfortunate enough to have 24-inch centers for the interior walls, that’s even worse.
The Lawyer was right on the "DA does not understand" the dynamics of how slow the brain/body reacts and most people do not either. Attacker who is shot in the back, that is not seen as SD by many.
Agreed. Thin mints. They might not be the absolute best chocolate cookie, but I have severe digestive problems yet I can digest them well. Overall a fine cookie.
I don't know...personally, I see the potential for so many in- between scenarios where a gun is not the best option. A non lethal Byrna would be a good investment.
I think if I was a bad guy, a window would be easier to defeat than almost any door. So is it a psychological thing that they would prefer to break through a door, just because it's a door, and we walk through doors?
Could be that. Glass also makes a distinct and loud noise when breaking, leaves sharp stuff behind that you have to crawl over, and you have to lift yourself up over the sill. Criminals are lazy and don't like stabby pieces of glass.
@@bwofficial1776 “Criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot.” Dang it, get your classic comics quotes right! LOL The issue is that the sill of my windows is plenty low enough to step over. Yeah, window glass is awfully stabby, but it takes a lot less time to break the glass and clear the shards than to break through a decent front door. And let’s just completely ignore the sliding glass door on the back patio… please. I had to pay to replace the outer pane of that when I moved in here; I don’t want to pay to replace both panes.
can you make a legalitys of smoke shop robbery shooting, I live in cali and some say even if you someone walk in with a pistol can't shoot till he points it at you and If I see a gun I'm shooting lol but can you make a video on that please, and yes I talked to cops talked to lawyers and they'll have different answers
Question for Mr. Forshey or anyone else who is legally savvy: If I'm legally carrying a concealed firearm and get into a physical altercation with someone, and defend myself successfully without ever drawing my firearm, does my possession of a legal firearm have any bearing on my legal defense? Let's assume that my attacker never used lethal force and that I can prove I was defending myself using non-lethal force.
What John said. There's an interesting case in Virginia where a man had a pistol in his pocket on his own residential property and pointed another weapon at intruders driving up his dirt road. HIs family called sheriffs for back up. When the law arrived, they searched the homeowner as he had a weapon out. He was arrested and charged, not for the weapon he had pulled and pointed at the intruders in his private road, but for the concealed pistol that he did not have a permit to carry concealed. It is legal in Virginia to open carry anywhere not prohibited by the land owner. But on your own property, you have to be in your domicile or the curtilage thereof. He was outside the curtilage thereof. So he was arrested for a firearm he never drew.
If you have time to warn, do and they do not heed the warning to remove themselves from your property is 1 check point. Being aware of what's behind the target should you miss 2nd check point. 3rd objectively should be if you feel your life or other lives are being threatened then you end the threat. God willing it means they surrender before you ever pull the trigger. My question lies with if my home or vehicle, extention of my home, is being robbed am I allowed to defend my personal belongings though my physical life isn't being threatened? I'm sure there's the what the law should be like and what the courts decide to paint as a per case basis which is a gray area with no clear answer. That I don't know.
The correct answer depends on the state in which you reside. Texas is more willing than most states to allow deadly force in the protection of property.
Here in America, I’ll admit it, I’m nervous to use my gun in self defense. We’ve seen case after case of people defending themselves but their guns get taken away or they get sued or go to prison for doing the right thing. So I’m like okay…. If I use my gun I’ll go to prison…. Just with how the system and how social media is, id be the bad guy. So it does make me nervous! I’m not afraid to admit that. Call me a wimp or whatever. I’m just like okay what do I do?
I think it's not a bad metric to say that you would only use your firearm in a situation that you're willing to be prosecuted and go to prison for using it. That means the alternative of not using it is so bad that you would rather go to prison...something like you'd be dead, or your spouse would be dead or in the hospital for months or your child is abducted. In those cases, you'll almost certainly not be prosecuted and so it's worth it. That said, by far the majority of defensive firearms uses are not prosecuted and are seen as just what they are: defensive use of force. You just hear about the bad outcomes in the media.
Sorry, young ladies, I'll take the oatmeal crisps or classic chocolate chunk, made with fresh-ground flour, eggs from our chickens and milk from our neighbor's cow, manufactured by my favorite daughter, over the MRE snacks. (Still love and support ya.) I'm looking forward to next week on human performance time-factor. We're all living in the past; There is no possible way that I can select focus +.20s, perceive intent +.15s, make decision +.25s, signal muscles +.25s AND make intended action +.25s in less than (and usually much more than) a second.
I do not understand how someone unarmed is anyless of a dangerous threat to life if they intend harm it is nobody jobs to determine someones threat level it is our job to survive
That makes no sense about civil lawsuits. Why would the person who broke in or family members of the person be allowed to file a civil lawsuit against someone who they committed the crime against plus there’s also trespassing charges as well?
@@ASPextra Samoas are obviously the best. And thin mints are definitely overrated. I don't even need reasonable objective evidence to know that much. 🤣
So, no deadly force unless they hold my loved one hostage, and using less than lethal will get me an assault charge by the guy who is ransacking my home...wtf are we supposed to do? just watch some bum take our stuff until the cops come???? seems like it's either I'm about to die or I'm about to loose have of my belongings. Hopefully my prosecutor has a back bone and won't let them out on bail and then drop charges. Oh wait, they did that do someone who fired their gun in a bar down the road. Moral of my comment. What options do we have besides bending over to someone who entered our house that appears to be unarmed? A safe room isn't an option for some folks.
How can castle doctrine have any rebuttals to it? If it’s clear that the person is trying to break in and is posing a threat then it should be clear cut. These examples they are giving about the 9 year old and the old lady are just bad examples. Anyone with common sense would know those don’t qualify for castle doctrine. It’s if the person poses a threat and/or already broken in that it should not be debatable about castle doctrine.
It's a shame this channel isn't more popular. After a certain point, it's more valuable content than your main channel (you can only see so many defense encounters before they all start to look familiar, though it's always good to reinforce lessons you've already learned)
Yeah the main channel is more like a daily mental dry practice rep than anything. :)
@@ASPextra even though @Ryan Boyer is right about this channel being a wealth of information, I also appreciate the daily mental rep of the main channel.
This channel -- especially each Friday's discussions with Tim Forshey -- is a gem.
Today's discussion made me consider a corollary to the "distance buys you time, and time buys you options" mantra that could apply for home defense. Strengthened doors, a safe room, video doorbells, external and internal cameras, and so forth can buy you time in a home defense situation -- and that time gives you options. As y'all said, whilst deadly force is an option in home defense it needn't be the only one. Given the consequences of a perfectly legal self-defense shooting it should ideally only be used only when the other options are even worse.
Thin Mints right out of the freezer with a cold glass of milk is the best!
The 4 D's of home defense. Deter, Detect, Delay, and then Defend. The gun is the last line of defense. Deter can be things like lights and signs, make your home the least palatable to the criminal element compared to your neighbors. Detect would be cameras and security systems, delay is making entry to the home harder with solid doors, security plates, window film, ... but delay can also mean making sure everyone knows where to go in an emergency to improve defense. Last is defend, when the threat is imminent you, or your family, should be able to stop it quickly. Make sure everyone knows their part.
As for shooting. It's not WHERE you shoot someone, it's WHY you shoot them.
But remember that securing a home means securing against common risks. Do you have the right number of fire extinguishers, smoke alarms, proper GFCI outlets in wet locations? Is you home secured and insured properly against hazards you can't just fix like weather risks? Do you monitor for water leaks? Laser focus on a criminal threat may blind people to other risks.
Absolutely correct, those other risks are statistically more likely. And that's coming from me, a guy who did have his front door kicked in by an intruder.
@David Penny Hello sir, I don't mind at all. What basically happened is the intruder thought no one was home and was so startled when I yelled at him he did a 180 and bolted. It was an attempted robbery. This happened 22 years ago. Two story house, 90 degree staircase with a landing at the top that looks directly down on the front door. We had gone to bed especially early because of odd working hours and it was winter and all the lights were off. I was awakened by a crashing noise. Then another. I jumped out of bed and as went into the hallway, another crash and the front door flew open. All lights are still off at this point. As front door flies open, a silhouetted figure casually strolls into my foyer. I yell from the top of the stairs 'You're dead M...F!!!". HE BOLTED. Probably thought I had a gun, but honestly I had no time to grab so much as my glasses. Several months later, I heard someone had been arrested who had been involved in a string of robberies in the area, but no way to know if it was same guy. I got ADT installed after that.
You do what you have to do to keep your loved ones safe. I have 4 grandbabies living with me. I would not want to come in this house unwanted. Peace be with you 🙏🏻😁
As always, thanks for sharing!
Hiding in another room should not be the first option. By the time cops get there it's usually too late.
No, it certainly should. You get to be in FULL control of the space you occupy, and as such limit the ways that an aggressor can make their way to you. You get to create a fatal funnel for any aggressors, so there's a lot less variables for you. Police can be as late as they want while you train sights on the(preferably barricaded) door that accesses the room your in.
Another awesome benefit of living in Florida. A lot of front doors open out. The trade-off is if you don’t have some sort of plate in place it is easier to defeat the walks with a crowbar, but ain’t nobody kicking that door in.
Do you actually think its a benefit living in Florida????🥴🤭🤫
By far my favorite videos please do some long form ones. Awesome job on the channel love it much respect
Noted!
@Active Self Protection John, I used to be on #TeamThinMints for years, but in the past few years, they’ve gotten an aftertaste, so I’m now on #TeamTagalongs instead. But just like with the Thin Mints, they’re even better straight out of the freezer with a big glass of cold milk.
And on the SUPPOSED subject of this video (because we know it’s all about the Girl Scout Cookies), while I do have my front door reinforced with 3” screws, I can’t help but notice that just a few feet away is this HUGE hole in the wall that is closed with nothing more than glass… and there are more of those things on other sides of the house, too. And with respect to making a safe room by getting a steel door and reinforced frame, I have to point out that interior walls are made of gypsum-board and 2x4s… and they are INCREDIBLY easy to break through, even by accident. So what’s the point of reinforcing ONLY the door?
For some reason home invaders don't like to go through windows. It could be because breaking glass is loud and leaves sharp fragments that they have to lift themselves up and crawl over. You can get clear security film to increase the shatter resistance of windows and locks to prevent them from sliding open. If someone's breaking through your walls to get you, you're facing a slasher movie antagonist and you'd better have some firepower to back up the door. If you want to completely reinforce a room you can put wire mesh under the drywall to buy time. Unless you live in a bank vault it's all about buying time for you and the authorities to arrive.
@@bwofficial1776 Oh, I freely admit that any real-person-affordable safe room is strictly about buying time (and, frankly, so are the ones built like bomb shelters; you just get MORE time with them). But knowing how insanely easy it is to break gypsum board accidentally, even when you’re trying to be careful (hey, I can be clumsy, and I’m not exactly a featherweight), I can tell you that I don’t trust walls made from that and 2x4s on (if you’re lucky) a 16-inch center to protect me from anyone angry enough with me to break through/down my door or come through my window. If they can’t stand up to someone like me tripping, they sure can’t stand up to an angry adult who’s TRYING to get past or through them. And if you’re unfortunate enough to have 24-inch centers for the interior walls, that’s even worse.
My favorite kind of Girl Scout Cookies is the plant kind. 😁
The Lawyer was right on the "DA does not understand" the dynamics of how slow the brain/body reacts and most people do not either. Attacker who is shot in the back, that is not seen as SD by many.
How about a video about the positives and negatives of having home surveillance cameras?
Show video to lawyer first, dont let cops know first
Thin Mints: NEVER!! Peanut Butter: ALWAYS !!
Agreed. Thin mints. They might not be the absolute best chocolate cookie, but I have severe digestive problems yet I can digest them well. Overall a fine cookie.
First off, FROZEN Thin Mints!, second great video. Thank you for posting this.
I don't know...personally, I see the potential for so many in- between scenarios where a gun is not the best option. A non lethal Byrna would be a good investment.
SAMOAS. There is no other.
💯!!
I think if I was a bad guy, a window would be easier to defeat than almost any door. So is it a psychological thing that they would prefer to break through a door, just because it's a door, and we walk through doors?
Could be that. Glass also makes a distinct and loud noise when breaking, leaves sharp stuff behind that you have to crawl over, and you have to lift yourself up over the sill. Criminals are lazy and don't like stabby pieces of glass.
@@bwofficial1776 “Criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot.” Dang it, get your classic comics quotes right! LOL
The issue is that the sill of my windows is plenty low enough to step over. Yeah, window glass is awfully stabby, but it takes a lot less time to break the glass and clear the shards than to break through a decent front door. And let’s just completely ignore the sliding glass door on the back patio… please. I had to pay to replace the outer pane of that when I moved in here; I don’t want to pay to replace both panes.
Why is it thin mints? Because, to my knowledge, they've not yet made thick mints.
Thin mints should be called "diet mints" and thick mints are "mints."
@@ASPextra I ate the whole box… when do I get thin?
Thin Mints. Because ... Thin Mints!
can you make a legalitys of smoke shop robbery shooting, I live in cali and some say even if you someone walk in with a pistol can't shoot till he points it at you and If I see a gun I'm shooting lol but can you make a video on that please, and yes I talked to cops talked to lawyers and they'll have different answers
Not sure why someone would say that. If someone is threatening you with a gun you can stop that threat with deadly force.
Tagalongs / Peanut Butter Patties (depending upon where you live)
Caramel Delights! Get out of here with that dry Thin Mint trash. (Unless you have a big glass of milk for me...)
good vid nice discussion
Question for Mr. Forshey or anyone else who is legally savvy:
If I'm legally carrying a concealed firearm and get into a physical altercation with someone, and defend myself successfully without ever drawing my firearm, does my possession of a legal firearm have any bearing on my legal defense? Let's assume that my attacker never used lethal force and that I can prove I was defending myself using non-lethal force.
Nope. Completely irrelevant, as long as you're legal to possess the firearm and not committing any crimes.
@@ASPextra Okay, thanks.
What John said. There's an interesting case in Virginia where a man had a pistol in his pocket on his own residential property and pointed another weapon at intruders driving up his dirt road. HIs family called sheriffs for back up. When the law arrived, they searched the homeowner as he had a weapon out. He was arrested and charged, not for the weapon he had pulled and pointed at the intruders in his private road, but for the concealed pistol that he did not have a permit to carry concealed. It is legal in Virginia to open carry anywhere not prohibited by the land owner. But on your own property, you have to be in your domicile or the curtilage thereof. He was outside the curtilage thereof. So he was arrested for a firearm he never drew.
Thin mints, taste and texture :)
No love for Coconut Samoas?
No
Samoas are the best. Mint should be spit out after you're through brushing your teeth! LOL
Samoans, and I will fight over it.
Large tribal island dwellers 😂
🤣👊🏼
Nope my home defense strat, my dogs, and a gun staged in every room lol
It is thin mints
If you have time to warn, do and they do not heed the warning to remove themselves from your property is 1 check point. Being aware of what's behind the target should you miss 2nd check point. 3rd objectively should be if you feel your life or other lives are being threatened then you end the threat. God willing it means they surrender before you ever pull the trigger. My question lies with if my home or vehicle, extention of my home, is being robbed am I allowed to defend my personal belongings though my physical life isn't being threatened? I'm sure there's the what the law should be like and what the courts decide to paint as a per case basis which is a gray area with no clear answer. That I don't know.
The correct answer depends on the state in which you reside. Texas is more willing than most states to allow deadly force in the protection of property.
Thin mints it is.
If the neighbors don’t like it, let the neighbors move!
Thin Mints - too bad they only come in single-serving packaging!
Oh my goodness! YES!!!!!
Carmel deLites all day.
Here in America, I’ll admit it, I’m nervous to use my gun in self defense. We’ve seen case after case of people defending themselves but their guns get taken away or they get sued or go to prison for doing the right thing. So I’m like okay…. If I use my gun I’ll go to prison…. Just with how the system and how social media is, id be the bad guy. So it does make me nervous! I’m not afraid to admit that. Call me a wimp or whatever. I’m just like okay what do I do?
I think it's not a bad metric to say that you would only use your firearm in a situation that you're willing to be prosecuted and go to prison for using it. That means the alternative of not using it is so bad that you would rather go to prison...something like you'd be dead, or your spouse would be dead or in the hospital for months or your child is abducted. In those cases, you'll almost certainly not be prosecuted and so it's worth it.
That said, by far the majority of defensive firearms uses are not prosecuted and are seen as just what they are: defensive use of force. You just hear about the bad outcomes in the media.
Really wanted him to say I could shoot the Girl Scout, JK. Great video
Sorry, young ladies, I'll take the oatmeal crisps or classic chocolate chunk, made with fresh-ground flour, eggs from our chickens and milk from our neighbor's cow, manufactured by my favorite daughter, over the MRE snacks. (Still love and support ya.)
I'm looking forward to next week on human performance time-factor. We're all living in the past; There is no possible way that I can select focus +.20s, perceive intent +.15s, make decision +.25s, signal muscles +.25s AND make intended action +.25s in less than (and usually much more than) a second.
Sugar free oatmeal raisin. Because I'm a bad American
👍👍👍
thin mints FOR SURE
I do not understand how someone unarmed is anyless of a dangerous threat to life if they intend harm it is nobody jobs to determine someones threat level it is our job to survive
The homeowner may not be held responsible, that won’t stop civil lawsuits. You know they are coming.
That makes no sense about civil lawsuits. Why would the person who broke in or family members of the person be allowed to file a civil lawsuit against someone who they committed the crime against plus there’s also trespassing charges as well?
@@1watersthree That’s never stopped anybody from suing somebody who shot someone. Do a little research it’s very common.
@@TexasScout I know it’s common. That’s why the question is why should it be allowed in the first place?
@@1watersthree That’s the good old USA, anybody can sue anyone for anything at any time.
@@TexasScout Plus I'm pretty sure the threshold of guilt/proof is lower in civil cases than in criminal cases.
That aside, THIN MINTS BABY, all day.
For this to even be a discussion is lame.
If I'm in my home and I have some phyco coming after my daughter and brakes through my door, I'm shooting.
Yeah I think that's quite reasonable.
I hate laws becuase looks can be decieving but death does not descriminate semoas are the best girl scout cookies
Smore's
THIN MINTS ARE THE MOST OVERRATED COOKIE ON THE PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!
😂
This is fake news. Probably like those coconut abominations
LEAVE THIN MINTS ALONE! [sobs]
I haven’t even watched the video yet but those are fightin’ words!
@@ASPextra Samoas are obviously the best. And thin mints are definitely overrated. I don't even need reasonable objective evidence to know that much. 🤣
Mint chocolate is gross. Samoa’s is the best flavor.
Not a great shoot, a good shoot no doubt. Not thin mints🤮, samosas 😋😋😋😋
That's it I'm tired of the lies john!!! Everyone knows caramel delights are the best, unsubscribed!
BYE FELICIA! ;)
@@ASPextra can I use your VCR?
VHS or Beta?
Samoa or get out of here kid.
Pepper spray out the door crack. Done
So, no deadly force unless they hold my loved one hostage, and using less than lethal will get me an assault charge by the guy who is ransacking my home...wtf are we supposed to do? just watch some bum take our stuff until the cops come???? seems like it's either I'm about to die or I'm about to loose have of my belongings. Hopefully my prosecutor has a back bone and won't let them out on bail and then drop charges. Oh wait, they did that do someone who fired their gun in a bar down the road.
Moral of my comment. What options do we have besides bending over to someone who entered our house that appears to be unarmed? A safe room isn't an option for some folks.
I feel like you didn't listen at all.
How can castle doctrine have any rebuttals to it? If it’s clear that the person is trying to break in and is posing a threat then it should be clear cut. These examples they are giving about the 9 year old and the old lady are just bad examples. Anyone with common sense would know those don’t qualify for castle doctrine. It’s if the person poses a threat and/or already broken in that it should not be debatable about castle doctrine.
Those common sense examples ARE the examples. Your daughter's teenage boyfriend tries to sneak in through her window and you shoot him...jail.
@@ASPextra The jokester inside my head who always thinks he’s hilarious says, “You haven’t met my daughter’s teenage boyfriend!”
Samoas are way better than Thin Mints! @activeselfprotection