(Outdated) Is Mega Man X DiVE Worth Playing?
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2022
- Mega Man games have existed on mobile phones prior to 2020, but it was in that year that fans were greeted with Mega Man X DiVE, a mobile game trying to emulate the 2D platforming action of the Mega Man X series. The game is currently free to play on Steam, but is it fun to play? Well...let's find out.
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I gotta say, this video was much more positive than I expected it to be, a lot of the mechanics you talked about is justs regular stuff for gacha games
I realized you never touched on the required power for the stages and this is the reason you had problem with the damage, the way you grow on this game is directly linked to your rank, unlocking more armors and other mechanics that raise your power, there's also much more to upgrade than just the weapon levels and armor, it's par for the course for gacha games but your conclusion still stands, you'll either put time or money to get far in this game
Yep! Lolz Mine was mostly time as I didn't spend money on it. Whoo, it is rough taking the long way around xD Still fun though.
Yeah you gotta be invested in the game to get anywhere. I played it for a while (my power was over 200,000) and its difficult gaining level at times and certain mechanics you want known about until later on. I still the game at its base is good but I understand people's frustrations with it.
But like Roll with a cartoonishly large cannon on her shoulder is an offer I couldnt pass up lol.
@@justcallmekai1554 the real boss of this game is the sheer frustration and patience you need to keep up with it.
Been playing the game for almost 2 years (august 2020 to be exact) currently on lvl 134 with a 700k+ power... So far it was pretty fun, the grind is tough sometimes you get shafted and win in gacha pulls but nonetheless it's a good game for me who had a lot of free time....
You can progress just fine at lower levels too. You get free continues that you can abuse to bypass the harder difficulties and that will get you a lot of rewards quickly. The only time it becomes an issue is with bosses, especially ones like Sting Chameleon and Mad Nautilus whose invincibility phases will affect star ranking for time.
classic Mega Man with an assualt Rifle...just... man that is cursed
Now if only we can have a Megaman school themed level to go with it.
He's just imitating his box art
Give it time, he'll be in fortnite 😕
"My patience finally ended, Wily. Time to use the Rush Shotgun
Think that's bad? Ryu, Akuma and Chun LI are guest characters. Not Replied versions... Just the base characters. How goofy, no?
I don't play anymore, but getting dupes gets you memories you can convert into specific memories you can use to increase the star ratings of your characters and weapons, which is important.
Agreed
"Hey, bro, when you get a thousand duplicate dog drops in-game you can convert the dogs into pure organs that you can sell on the black market so that you can buy the grappendix and assassinate the governor, which will be important for later"
What's a dupe
@@brandonhayes8364 it's short for duplicate. When you get an item that you already have, you get currency instead. For example, if you get a weapon you already have, you get weapon memories.
this game is all about patience and making tasks every day, I have never spent one cent and I enjoy playing the game, not even playing the main stages, but side content and events to keep unlocking new stuff, or playing co-op or versus. The menus are indeed overwhelming at the beginning but you get used to them later. Every mobile game nowdays is like that, bunch of stuff to do, a lot of menus and options, its hard to get into a game that has been going for a while, cuz they keep adding more and more.
worse is that they simplify most of the menu last year because it was way worse at the beginning
Let's be real, we all know what truly makes this game memorable; playable Ciel and the existence of Iris - another.
For me it's playable Vile; all three of him. (Hoping they release Vile V at some point)
Rico is kinda cute，she even made into TEPPEN and a even cuter extra card，really hope she can be in new Megaman X game（if that happen）
Eratoneir > All
Also, Ryu Light
Bro Zero with a kimono bangs
The artwork is the best thing to come from this game
Nah this kind of artwork is not my type. Its Zero is a disaster to my eyes especially. I'll stay forever with the original PSX era about it.
It's definitely designed for you to level up through daily missions and gradually get more power to take on later levels. Even if you pull on the Gatchapon like mad you won't get the power you need to take on those higher story levels right away. And as you hit higher levels you unlock other modes that give you more ways to get memories and power.
It's 100% a game that you have to be ok with making a habit out of. You need to play daily, even if you only play for 30 minutes a day.
Mega Man X DiVE on the whole is a really good game held back by obvious mobile game design. The main issue is that as a f2p player just trying to get through the story, the entire game's progression slows down to a crawl. Once you hit this point, you can either pay up or just take a slow burn approach. Admittedly the payment doesn't speed you up enough to actually use it for the long-term.
That being said, there are some things you can do to speed things up:
Grind out a single character to atleast be 4 star rank. With a third card slot, your stats gain a massive boost and you'll be able to go on for much longer, and each levelup will add more since you can level that card further.
Save your lives for big pushes: it's generally not worth it to use your programs on any stage you die in. Instead, use them sparingly for big story pushes if you know an unlock is around the corner, or for unlocking higher tier events so you can then skip those. (Gacha game logic at its finest.)
Remember that every little thing gives you stat pushes, so sometimes you just need to wait a few days. This is how they try to get money out of you.
The game is not for everyone, but if you like Mega Man and can deal with/are a fan of gacha mechanics, it might be a fun little timesink.
Definitely at the slow burn portion myself as a f2p. I have the sigma blade and a buster as my go-to gear and Bass GS as my main character. I don't do area because I'm on mobile.
DiVE is more of a game that you play in short bursts. I can imagine coming into the game now while it has two years of content available from the get-go makes it seem like there's too much going on. Really liked your take on the game, though.
And you get lives naturally through small events and several daily, but again, I can see how that gels better with a "play a bit each day" game rather than a "play it all at once" experience. Either way, I'm very thankful for the new artwork and models.
Thank you, Cole
That kind of game usually expects you play by schedule or play at least once per day, because if you don't you will get punished by missing out in special events or promotions that give rewards for the all players.
Some games have one of those every 2 weeks or even 1 per week so you better play everyday specially if you're a f2p player, and as a result the game gets more addictive (or feeling more like a job, those who quit MMOs know what i am talking about) and that's how the game gets you and tempts you into spending real money, and apparently it works because this kind of game is a huge business.
You really are not expected to "finish the game" in a couple of days but i feel like there should be a balance, not sure if there's a game that has balanced those aspects correctly.
But still, i agree that this kind of game isn't for everyone, just like MMOs, some people just don't have the time for those (or are too impatient, can't expect to "finish all the content" in a MMO in 2 months)
None of what you've said gives any justification for these bad practices. They're objectively predatory lmao
@@huevonesunltd These "kinds of games" are for draining the wallets of the people who these companies trick with scummy business practices. If they *weren't,* lives wouldn't be a purchasable option, the gameplay loop would be *baked in* with no alternative. They just so happen to draw people in with some cool artwork, fan service, and *passable* gameplay that is primarily difficult artificially. It goes no deeper than companies wanting your money and finding the fastest route to do it.
@@JG_Wentworth I am not justifying anything, i am just describing how it is.
Trust me i hate that stuff as much as you do.
But the main issue are people supporting that sort of garbage, it's really the reason why they keep making those games.
It's gonna sound elitist as hell but most people straight up like garbage.
This would be the megaman game equivalent of keeping up with the kardashians, its garbage but people consume it so they keep giving them some more.
To me this game is basically the 2D sections of Megaman X7 made into a mobile game, i wouldn't be excited to play that
I played MMXDive, and honestly the game felt really good to play, eventually I also hit the part where the game started to get harder, but after upgrading my weapons, chips, cards and armour (it's not complicated neither expensive at all, I've never spent any money in this game and was able to get to chapter 7 I think in a matter of weeks) the stages never felt too punishing to play, and honestly if you're doing literally 1 damage against an enemy, why are you even trying? You need to upgrade weapons, don't try to upgrade all of them, pick a favorite, upgrade your favorite characters, I wouldn't recommend this game to someone that wants the simple and straightforward nature of the MegaMan series, but if you're willing to spend a couple minutes to get stronger and X dive is definitely a good game for that, the only reason I don't play it anymore is because after an update the game started to crash constantly at my phone
And yeah, the game's microtransactions are terrible and it definitely encourages you to use your money, there's no defense for that
yea I was just gonna say that this review sounded like J had cero idea how this kind of games work where you gotta do some management in order to progress and ended up spending money that he could easely have just not expended
If he just contacted a friend or do some reaserch on the game in UA-cam like a starter guide maybe a lot of this frustrations he was experiencing would have been brushed up
And this is mega sad because inexperience people that had no idea how the game works and expect a straight foward experience are the ones that then leave bad reviews only because they mesed up big time because they haven't touch any games of this kind
@@pepekovallin Even spending money on the game won't progress you very farther ON PVE. I reached the point where I'm like 1 normal and 3 hard stages to complete, no money spent, took I think 2 or 3 months. Spending money won't make this progress much faster since I'm normally capped by the account level, not my weapons and/or characters upgrades level.
Now, on PVP, or you have 5 stars characters or you are dead.
Just admitted that complex games are too much? 😮💨
@@simp1ycrazy what?
I honestly have a reverse-sunken cost fellacy in these type of games. If I didn't play since launch or close to it, it always feels like there just isn't any point because a lot of free rewards are already gone and the difficulty curve was designed for people already playing.
I've played some since launch and still fall behind. Can't bother anymore.
The problem with the power scaling on XDive is that a lot of the content you see through the game is stuff that was slowly added over the course of 2 years. So, instead of having the difficult slowly progress as you normally would, they had them adjusted for the power level most players had around the time those were added, and this made everything even more of a slow grind.
For a new player to get there and see all that content, just to hit a wall pretty early on and have all their hopes crushed, it can be pretty disappointing.
I believe that is the case for literally any mobile game with online PvP and etc. They had to constantly make updates to NERF any existing mechanics that are broken in ongoing competition and buff up other stuffs so that they are balanced and etc. Newbies just get crushed almost instantly trying to compete in global competition mainly because of specs than it is of players skills and reaction time.
@@hiroran9796 for me its lack of bosses... like we dont even have like launch octopus lol and the drop rates could be a bit better lol. and mabe more game modes. besides that, its not a bad game
Despite the flaw that the game has, considering the lot of p2w stuff all around and general unfairness in multiplayer, i still really love this game and wouldn't mind to download it again and seeing the cool MegaMan museum that they built in there, I get it's not for everyone but i still going to love it nonetheless despite haven't played the game for a while
Also thanks for making this game review into reality J, really look up into this review since the game launch
I just wish they make this game PvE exclusive. The PvP in this game is terrible and unbalanced and just ruins the game even if is optional.
Man, as I started up this video, I finally decided to check out the steam version. Just to find out that I can't transfer my progress from mobile to steam. So I closed out the game without playing it.
@@StephenPrintz Taiwan version says rockman x dive (on the title screen). You must have downloaded nebula joys megaman x dive. It is more newcomer friendly in ways
Yeah, PvP is a complete waste of time. When you can't deal any damage to your opponent and they can insta-nuke you and the Devs say it's a "feature", don't bother.
for pvp i think the save zone that not much frustrated and give a decent reward is a rank
higher than a rank is too much frustrated
most meta type i see in pvp are
-brawler=mostly 1 shot you at close range
-zoner=mostly annoying from long range(some can 1 shot)
and most meta character have durability mechanic like shield,def or i-frame
shield can absorb some damage but can break when absorb too much
def is important for a character that has total def from passive and Fixed DNA over 30%
but ef up when meet def break or massive damage build or luck based critical build
and i-frame can withstand all damage but only at right timing because duration is very short
(some char can spam it)
and only showtime type i-frame that immune debuff even the preventive shield ignore debuff or true debuff
Today on J's review: J's review finds out gacha games exist
We all been there bud, wait till you see Fire emblem heroes and Genshin
I mean while genshin is bs with the expenses and stingy with the gacha....you at least can go through all the main content quests. Hearing how they locked the worlds behind hard mode with a steep difficulty spike definitely sounds awful
J, if you're reading this, you can tap the power counter icon on the main menu and it will tell you where your power total is lacking if anywhere;
Or if you're on par for the current level, that's basically where you should probably do side content or wait for the day. I've never spent on lives or anything else I've got over 400 of the extra lives saved up.
Lastly, this game is generally pretty generous by gacha standards; there's are regular events that give loads of free pulls with guaranteed S-ranks, including several that are available at day one for new players.
Not sure if it changes anything for you, but the knowledge certainly improves things.
P.S.: Later on, the DNA system (once you have a good chunk of resources saved up) is a really good customization system that lets you make pretty much any character an absolute juggernaut.
as a Volnutt Main, not having access to the DNA system is pure pain
@@Kelm_Kisaragi Don't worry, you get access to it around level 50 if you're on Steam/TW. No idea if he has DNA on the NJ version though.
@@scrubscrub4492 No, I'm Lv60 what i meant is, Volnutt is one of those characters that still haven't received anything from the DNA System in NA
@@Kelm_Kisaragi F, sorry to hear bro
If you wanna try his DNA and the newer content now though the Steam version is also TW regardless of region, and TW was in English by default from day 1 so you'll still be able to read it
Fun fact: I started to play this game back on may 2020 and I still playing it 2 years later with some characters I like.
I was lucky to get in, get Gate during his event as an S Rank character and pretty much tear through so much of X DiVE in one go, although I still quit after a while regardless because I also felt like it was enough, got all the achievements and that's the most I need in order to feel like I "finished" DiVE.
It was really cool seeing all the stages, callbacks and all kinds of things, but it got pretty tiring having to comeback every day in order to have a chance at continuing to get stuff, with the lackluster story not really helping.
12:55 - Lol, you can't have a J's Review Video without a certain Raccoon showing up. haha. 😂
I think in large part it helps a lot if you get lucky enough to get your favorite characters early because then you feel invested in their growth and development. Overall I haven't hit the need to p2w wall yet, but even then, you do have limited actions you can do even if you try to p2w, which really balances the game.
I remember getting into the beta, trying it, finding it neat but trying to play on phone was kinda annoying. I stopped playing the beta after about 2 hours and just...forgot. Then last year the GL version released, so I tried it on emulator. But apparently the GL version had issues...so I played TW and been playing it.
It's one of those games where at first you need to invest some time to focus on improving, especially since there's a wall like J mentioned. It happened to me too, so I stopped with the progressing part and just used the Dive to get materials and improve everything else. Power Evaluation is pretty important, moreso depending on your characters. If you pull the right charactewr, then you can ignore the Recommended Power.
Or at least I could once I got Dive Armor X since he's pretty broken in PvE. 2nd skill gives a shield that deals damage and gives your more survivability. With enough Stars to get the Skill Upgrade, you can make it also heal 25% of your max HP on use. Even when I was 200,000+ points behind the recommendation, I was clearing with no deaths, had some damage potential with a Neon Laser gun.
Nowadays I login and usually am off within 10-15 minutes since I can just Dive on most of the stages I need. I've finished all the Story stages so just waiting. Leveling is now a grind (Currently 123) and takes weeks for 1 level. Common for mobile games with gacha though, so the best thing to do is just build up in those 10-15 minutes. And/or pull for your [Robot] Husband/Waifu character.
My problem with P2Ws usually isn’t even the micro transactions (I mean those are dreadful, but I can usually at least play the game for a while if the game is at least streamlined). It’s the UI. Every mode, currency, event, etc is treated with equal prominence. So it’s difficult to figure out where I’m even supposed to start. And either they end up over-tutorialized, or they fail to properly convey any information. Immediately making me want to jump ship, P2W or not. I hate it.
I love how the Zero, ZX, and Starforce series get represented. These are my favorite franchises within the Megaman series.
I’m up to stage 13 with no spending. Probably play for a half hour a day. The nostalgia is still paying dividends for me. Every wall I hit doesn’t last very long and the events are plenty fun enough to scratch the itch.
I like it. It works for me. I’ll never spend on it tho.
_Really?_ So you managed to play this game without spending _any_ money?
I, might wanna check this out then...
@@SapphireLibra3 yea, I have spent no real life currency on the game.
I spend in game currency on characters I like, not meta defining characters (mostly battle network is what I go for). The game gives plenty of free or easy to acquire resources, and you don’t need say, to draw protoman 5 times to make him his strongest. Every time you draw a character you get character patches which can be spend on any character you’ve unlocked. Same with weapons.
It definitely has an appeal, and like I said i still play it.
@@SapphireLibra3 I'm at level 92 and I've just been doing little half an hour bursts in the morning. I'm sure spending will speed up powering up stuff and I admittedly got a character I really like on the free rolls I got when I first started but Yeah you can basically do anything without spending a cent if you just do the stuff daily.
Trick is to focus on a character and two weapons you like and not try to upgrade everything till you max them out.
Thank you for reviewing this. Been on the fence about it but I’ll give it a shot
Good review, my experience has been similar. Ran into that same difficulty wall and I've struggled to get back into it. Not planning on spending any money. If this were a regular paid game, no microtransactions, I'd be playing it nonstop.
Did you know that on the mobile version, you can turn off auto-aim and allow to aim in 360 degrees manually by sliding your shooting finger in any direction, it's very satisfying. also, I've made it very far without spending a single cent and the two hit kills were never a problem for me in particular.
You can do that on PC too! In the ingame pause menu you can still scroll down and change those settings. Manual aiming can be used with the right stick, and you can also map movement to the Dpad in the controls setting.
i agree with the 2 hit kills, it made even yellow devil an engaging challenge
"Hey guys, look at me! *I like dealing with predatory mechanics that companies impose on me!* And guess what? *You can too, take after my example and download the game so you can also have an objectively worse Megaman experience!* All at the cost of a couple of skins and animations!"
*Please stop talking Razor, you sold me, I can only be so turned on at once by the corporatocracy.*
Very cool video.
I am just a bit surprised you didn't talk about other mode in the game like pvp, coop, time attack, world boss, event...
12:54 Obligatory Sly reference
And, for the damage/power issues:
You'll need to raise chips, DiVE triggers, armors from co-op... Then you get the backup system at level 60-ish where you slot other weapons but the only stats that matter are attack and health.
The only saving grace in this gacha is that you can "play" as Magma Dragoon
i’m glad you reviewed this. many of the feelings and experiences you had with this i similarly had i don’t hate this game but it could be sooooo much better
Capcom is pretty notable of dropping those "collection tests"
It happened with darkstalkers long time ago for example, it sold poorly so they automatically assumed "nobody is interested in darkstalkers so there's no point of making a new darkstalkers game"
Thry did it too with street fighter and also the arcade compilation they released recently.
The problem is that their collections are pretty bad products with a ton of issues that they won't bother to fix, such as the inability of changing your controls in legacy X collection.
Also it's mind blowing how the legacy X collection is worse than the X collection in gamecube, the gamecube collection actually has the alternate music thing from the other versions of X1,X2 and X3, somehow legacy collection didn't bother to bring the ultimate experience.
It's hard for me to imagine they would actually make another megaman X collection so probably that's the last one we will get ever.
In the interest of fairness, this game actually does a pretty good job of giving you what you need to get through the game from the gate; the default Buster you start the game with upgrades well and has good skills, making it viable even late in the game, and base X himself, while lacking in defensive options, is easy to upgrade and about middle of the road in terms of ability. Whether intentionally or not, this means you're never really screwed in terms of progression regardless of what the gacha throws at you.
You do have to be willing to deal with the most typical element in gacha games other than the gacha itself: resource management. Having to upgrade your weapons and characters is your true foe in this game, and without it you're going to fall behind and run into the problem our host did. It wasn't that he didn't have good enough characters, gear, or enough lives; it was that he didn't have good enough stats. Because he wasn't upgrading his gear and characters properly, this would have been a problem regardless of what he got, and incidentally, he had two of the best weapons in the game, the Biochemical Buster and the Sniper Buster, kinda proving that further, although as mentioned, the default Buster remains viable because of how cheap it is to upgrade, and its good skills and rate of fire. You seriously can use it well into Hard mode and be just fine. Sometimes you're just gonna have to grind, though, regardless of what you're rolling with; you'll never be able to play through the entire game in one continuous go, and as a result, you'll be repeating stages and challenges. That's just the nature of the beast; at the end of the day, X Dive is a mobile game first and a platforming action game second.
Obviously, damn near everyone is going to want new characters and new weapons for the fun of it, and something else that wasn't mentioned is that while every character handles the game's weapons the same way, they all have two active abilities unique to them, such as X's charge shot, and a handful of passive abilities that dictate their playstyle and which weapon types they favor, if applicable, so you're not just getting skins over the gameplay, for the most part. There are unquestionably some characters that are better than others, as well, but again, you don't _need_ them, so while getting screwed by the gacha is frustrating, it also doesn't mean you'll never be stuck as long as you're keeping yourself properly upgraded. You'll have to be patient with your gacha currency and not throw it at anything that sparkles, though, making sure to save it only for characters or weapons you really want, or will fill a hole in your arsenal.
That said, the three S-Rank characters you get one of at random via free beginner rewards are all viable as well, with Cinnamon being the least glamorous but probably the most beginner-friendly because she can heal herself, First Armor X being basically a better base X whose second skill grants brief invincibility, and Black Zero having solid abilities. I also want to say you can get the Biochemical Buster for free via new user rewards as well, but I don't recall.
Don't get me wrong, the gacha is bullshit and the game can be a bit of a slog because of its grind-heavy focus, but you're by no means required to pay to succeed; you just have to know what you're doing and be prepared to grind, which is just the nature of mobile games in general. You also have to accept that you can't upgrade everything and everyone you have right out of the gate; it's best to pick one or two characters and weapons and focus hard only on them early on to ensure they get powerful enough to progress through the game. Once you're at a point where you're consistently keeping up, then you can worry about trying new stuff.
It's not what I'd consider a great game overall, but if you _are_ interested, it's only fair that you know that the video doesn't really paint an accurate picture of what you're getting into. So if you're looking for a time sink that's Mega Man-themed and also surprisingly decent gameplay-wise, you could do worse.
It's fun...until the gacha wall, as it is with most gachas. As you said i loved that you can shoot and back away, that's such a neat touch and the lock-on was implemented well, as a megaman fan its neat, even seeing Bad Volnutt new design with his dumb sunglasses made me smile, it lives, Legends lives, it's crawling but it lives.
You CAN map the dpad if you tinker with Steam stuff, but its a bit crusty, idk if its cause I'm in brazil so the latency is wonky but sometimes it feels like my input wasn't being read properly, but it never got in the way, well, before ZE GREAT GACHA WALL, but i consider the gacha wall finishing gacha games so i stopped playing when i got to it, sure you can grind and do dailies to slowly get past the wall but that's where it stops feeling like a game and more like a job to me.
been loving your Mega Man content, dude! I've enjoyed your X series videos and I'm looking forward to the classic series videos. maybe Legends can get touched on after haha.
I haven’t spent a single dollar on this game but been playing at least 2-3hours a day and can make it to top30 in most events. I’ve done lot of research so I’ve been pretty smart about EM management so I have all the meta characters and weapons unlocked. You can get by all the PvE stages if you are really good at the game.
PvP is a different story tho. Without spending money, you’ll never make it past GA1. All the whales are gatekeeping that league.
So overall this game feels great, looks great, and with new events every month it keeps it fresh for me. Although the gatcha system and PvP makes you insane sometimes.
As someone who doesn't enjoy this game that much, I'd say that is a fair assessment of the game. The game favors people who invested time (I guess 6 months) and people who invested money. If you are a 3 month old newbie, don't expect to get far in pvp nor pve.
@@King-Giygaz yeah, it requires skills too of course. I said past GA1 because everyone at that level not only have 5* meta characters (which is attainable as F2P) but when you start adding the DNAs and 5* S cards, it’s simply impossible to beat them. I can barely scratch them even with my proto.exe because their defense boost is on a different level.
Yeah. X Dive was a great nostalgia trip and fun to play. However, whenever I would get stuck, more time would get invested. Time I didn't have xD
Eventually I would just at the very least log in everyday and do the missions. But even at that point, I wouldn't get many new units and when I could progress in the story, it would only get me through 2 more stages. And that would be after doing my log in and mission routine for a month or more.
I haven't spent a cent on this game, mostly because I never spend money on games like this. Not because of some special reason but just because, if I can get it free, I'll try. But I suppose the nature of micro transaction don't fit well for me cuz games like that gear more towards "success" if I spend money on it xD
Enjoyed the video and have a nice day everyone!
Playing the game during it's anniversary is probably the best for new players. There are a lot of events to get pulls giving people more chances to get the characters and weapons they want
Great review, glad to see this game didn't get axed in your Mega Man X retrospective! I didn't even know X DiVE was on Steam, always wanted to try it out but apparently it's not available in my country :/
I was aware of the game being on Steam, but I had held off playing it for the fact that it was ported from mobile and Steam reviews being mixed. I recently got a new phone though so I was halfway through giving it a shot and getting sort of used to the controls...but I'll have to see if it really ends up clicking with me at the end to keep it there, hook me enough to even have me try it on PC (if it is possible to use traditional controls which would be 10/10 for a game like this), or if I'm gonna drop out from it. That said, great to see your review of it happen to land the same day I decided to try it lol; will be good to see if it is for me or not at the end of the day.
So I just finished watching the video, and while it sounds that the game does indeed play well on a controller and has a lot of levels from previous games, I'm definitely not a fan of the idea of Hard Mode being artificially padded with enemies that take forever to kill, bosses that take forever to kill, and being unable to survive other than spending an horrible amount of time per level/boss, spending forever grinding for useful equipment or stats...or pull out your wallet, and I absolutely refuse to do the last for absolutely any game with microtransactions.
Well, guess it wasn't meant to be, but it does fit with the Steam reviews...glad to have watched all your MMX videos though; I know that its not even an MMX fangame, but I'd definitely recommend you to try 20XX and 30XX, which are clearly inspired on the MMX gameplay and I've played 20XX A LOT (the main gimmick is that levels are randomly generated)
the big thing with the road to getting to rank 100 is that you do need to focus on at the minimum a specific set of weapons, chips, and cards. Characters aren't actually affected by this so as long as you're fine with not having their passives or skill chips thats fair game, but everything else does have levels and you need to keep those up. Making sure you're around 30K power ahead of the curve is pretty essential unless you get a cheese strat like black armor zero's 4* passive+Raikousen CD down combo. once you get to 100 the games progression slows down dramatically, but it also gives you breathing room to expand your stuff outward rather than forward.
Its prudent to keep in mind that its a mobile game, and after around an hour of playtime, being generous, your gains on the front of developing your arsenal are pretty heavily diminished.
I just downloaded X DiVE on my phone, and it’s going to be the third MegaMan game I’ll have ever played.
(The first being MegaMan X1 on my younger cousin’s preloaded SNES a couple years ago; the second being MegaMan 2 in the form of a plug-and-play console I found on clearance sale at Aldi just yesterday. I haven’t gotten past the first stage in either game yet.)
I played Dive when it first released globally on mobile. It actually had some half-decent controller support, so I played it for a couple weeks and was totally hooked. I ultimately dropped it, however, because progression was heavily time-gated.
You sort of mentioned how it would take either hours of grinding or an inflow of cash to get more powerful, but there was more to it than that. At later levels when you've finally used up all the excess stamina, you'll find yourself constantly in need of resources, from both grinding story and running the daily dungeons. But in both circumstances, you could only refresh things so many times; so, it eventually became a pattern of logging on, grinding what I could, and then putting the game back down until the next day.
I'm sure if I paid into it I probably would've been able to circumvent that somewhat, but IIRC even the whales were not immune to this time-gating, as even the top players were only so far above the rest power-wise. It just kind of wore on me, until finally I had to tell myself "if I'm not having fun playing a Mega Man game, a series that basically started my love of games, is it really worth trying to stick it out?"
To any newcomers, Cinnamon is one of the best characters for PVE. Her self-healing is already really good considering unlike the main games enemies in story mode do not drop healing items and the sub tank only works once per stage. But once she reaches five stars (this isn't easier said than done because any repeat characters give currency used to give any character more stars), you can make her healing move also give her a shield that completely nulls damage until it breaks or wears off *and* make her needle attack recharge her unique meter that would otherwise stop you from spamming the heal move. I strongly suggest you prioritize maxing her out before your favourite (Ferham is said to be pretty good too, but I don't have her and I'd rather not give advice I haven't tested).
As for my own gripes with the game, this review covered how Hard Mode is mandatory for story progression, which I agree sucks. But one thing that really bothers me is that the game picks some bosses that don't mix well with time limits, like Sting Chameleon (who gets *much worse* in the Jakob Elevator fight with two desynced Sting Chameleons at the same time under a time limit) or X4 final Sigma. In the early game, I agree that the power scaling sucks (though I'm glad there's a recommended power level instead of the unhelpful recommended level most gacha games have), but after I beat World 14 close to the recommended power level, I've been able to beat World 15 and 13 Hard in an afternoon thanks to Cinnamon.
She’s also a beast in PvP even at GA5. She’s my second fav after protoman.exe
wait for real? am i missing something about cinnamon? (stares at roll.exe, another permanent character with broken af healing)
also, black zero has one of the most powerful shields in the game, surely that would be enough, yeah?
@@ariki9804 full body shields in general seem to be really good. Megaman Classic has been very useful to me in Jakob Elevator and Volnutt Alt's ability to activate invinvibility every time he heals make him surprisingly useful for a gag character. But the thing that makes Cinnamon stand out is that she's available since launch and gives you easy healing on top of that so that you don't need a sub tank taking one of two slots.
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I think servbot is a much cheaper and good option for pve
as he is just b rank but he can heal and grant shield to himself and he has rng crowd clearing skill
And his size is smaller than standard char so he can dodge enemy easier than other char
YES someone who acknowledges Lord Servbot's power
As a pass time, to play here and there it's doable and can be fun, specially if you play the coop stages with friends. But the grind is real, and PvP is mostly broken.
The last time I played it was about a month or two ago, but I enjoy seeing the announcement of new content (like Ryu Cosplayer Dr Light lol), the new art and 2D stages remade in 2.5D, characters, and some of it's ideas are interesting...
Also, I hope that this game at least works as a beacon to attract new players to the franchise and familiarize them with the characters. Hopefully it will help to bring the X series back, with a new proper game for consoles and PC.
Anyway, nice video! I think you were pretty fair with the game, even raising some of its good points (despite its gacha hell nature).
I've been playing this game since February 2021, right around the 1st anniversary of the Taiwan version. I just hit lvl 149 and am still f2p, and this game is one of the few games I still play daily, at least on bluestacks and sometimes steam. The game is unbalanced, power creeps with each new character, heavy on fan service, pvp is a nightmare, and the game is prone to crashing often just by doing anything. But it's one of the few things I haven't gotten tired of, and is (very slowly) improving. Ask me anything.
I would have liked you to talk about the other modes like Jakob Elevator and PVP.
And of the original characters, I like that the characters RiCO, ViA and iCO speak to the player in each event, it makes me feel less alone.
I remember hearing about this game when it came to North America, and even pre downloaded it, but then never played it. Seeing it now, and hearing your thoughts really solidified that it's just not for me, and I made a good decision to never play it.
I tried it and spent maybe all of 10$ on it and then quit when I realized how little fun I was having.
I actually think it’s a good game. I have been playing it for months and never spent a dime and I was able to level up. It took me a month or two to get Into the groove and learn the game. I’m already at level 111.
Great video as always. As for directions the z series can go all I gotta say is 30XX!!!! That's a great homage of MegaMan and the two player coop? Chef's kiss. You should check it out if you haven't, it's an incredible game
I have to admit, at first I really didn't like the game, but after some time of playing it, I realized how it works and how it is best played and that really increased my enjoyment of the game. For me it's something I play a bit of every day and not rush any power level gate that may stand in front of me. You also realize quickly that the main story is not the real content of the game. Bi-weekly events and jakob elevator are a lot more fun than the story mode, and net you more rewards even!
I couldn't play it because the feedback from enemies just didn't work. you can pass through or even sit on top of a weak enemy and it won't push you back like the old games. Same goes from projectiles. You see the damage number going up, but don't feel any feedback
I was really wondering why I never ever heard about Mega Man X DiVE and after you mentioned in the beginning it is on steam I did some digging and what a surprise: it is not available with german internet. If you try to open the steam page without a VPN it tells you the "this game is not available in your region" bs. No clue why tho but hey, guess we are missing out here.
Some months ago it released here in Brazil, but at an unplayable state. Either the camera would focus offscreen or you literally couldn't jump, I beat the tutorial by sheer luck and many others couldn't even do that. I don't even know if they updated it since then, the fact that they released the game with an unbeliveably broken build just ruined it for me. They just didn't care.
"As Der Spiegel and Eurogamer report, Germany's Bundestag has passed a reformed Youth Protection Act that would limit loot boxes to games with an 18-plus age rating." The game has a lootbox like system might be why.
What an excellent review, that was genuinely helpful!
Good to know that there is a Steam version. I used to play the mobile version, but almost two years ago, my account randomly stopped working and I couldn't log in. I'll download the Steam version and see if I can recover my old data from there.
12:43 Also, Seismic Ramhorn is such a cool name.
So honestly, the same thing happened to me with lives when I started the game. But they introduced the card system into the game which essentially allows you equip more stats your characters so you can actually continue playing probably up to world 8 or so until that rock hits. So yeah, you are right about that, but reading the in game dialogue and upgrading everything you can is key to enjoying the game. The gacha does not really matter at this point either, since all the A rank stuff is inevitable and enough to complete the game.
You should stick with it to see the events and play the later content the game has to offer, because story mode is probably only 5% of this game and once you complete it, you never properly come back to it again.
I tried the game when it came out on steam, After an hour of dying on the same enemy with Axl I realized I would rather play Z4. I have Epilepsy, X Dive angered me to the point where I could be susceptible to a seizure from the stress, At least the Zero series gives me a rush of "I DID IT!" when I win against Copy X or Omega or Fuck Mc-oldie. (Weil) I just tried because Zero was in it, All his forms.
You can actually switch the movement to D-Pad from the option menu... but that also allows you to control the mouse cursor with it.
Thanks for this review. I got hooked on the Megaman Zero from the Gameboy days and the IP has always been something I wanted to learn more about. When this popped up on my Steam recommendations, I didn't even know it existed. Thanks for the great review.
From my experience. No....its pay to win. If you dont use money, you reach a point where common and weak enemies kills you in like 2 to 3 hits.
That's just called being underlevelled lmao
Even base B-rank X is usable in pretty much everywhere except PVP
Yeah, thats what he says in the video
It's more "pay to accelerate", the game has a lot of mechanics and it takes some time to learn all, you can pump money but it won't get you anywhere if you don't understand how to make the characters more powerful, but after you learn if you're not in a rush you can do it over time without spending money
> from my experience
speaks from only 30 minutes of experience
That's pretty much what every gacha does. Don't be discouraged by the people trying to tell you they're wrong. They just have stockholm syndrome and probably should be enrolled in a gambling addiction program.
The art is too good in this game
Nah. It can't beat the artwork of PSX era to my taste. It looks childish and not serious enough as it used to be. Especially its Zero design looks as if they're trying to draw something cool but instead... eeUUUUUUU.... Seeing it art is like seeing Ben 10 to my eyes, somehow it doesn't make me feel nostagia at all but s completely different game title borrow the image of Megaman without EPIC feeling. The only good perspective about the art is the color but it seems a litte bit too bright for me.
i've found the Event missions surprisingly alot easier than the storymode missions. i still haven't played around with the Multiplayer yet though
At this point, since Sigma is the true main antagonist of MegaMan X Dive, I wouldn’t be surprised if Sigma himself will be the true final boss for MegaMan 12, MegaMan X9, MegaMan Zero 5, MegaMan ZX3, MegaMan Legends 3, MegaMan Battle Network 7 and MegaMan Starforce 4. Heck, even MegaMan Xover game if they ever decided to make it in the future. Which I honestly feel hype and happy about it. Lol 😂
Short answer: no.
Long answer: Fuck no.
Mega Man X9 needs to do two things to be good for me: Address Axl’s corruption by Lumine, and address Wily’s involvement teased in the X series up until now
How did you get the classic mega man I had him before it was released in the us from a link my friend game me but I couldn't get a hold of my old account and I've been trying to get it again
Thievius Racoonus huh? Touché J...
If you play for nostalgias: sure
If you play for meta: ok time to back off
Personally, I enjoy the core controls and it gives me hope we'll get a good X9 in a few years. However, all of these Gatcha elements are real bad. The microtransactions are predatory, and like half of the characters are just shameful. It's really cool to play as Vile MK 2 or Dr. Light in Ryu cosplay, but half of the roster is just swimsuit alts of the female characters and it gives me secondhand embarrassment for the devs. The game's idea of "difficulty" is inflating numbers for enemy attack and defense, and the level curve to keep up is very steep, so you're forced to spend a ton of time grinding for items to even stand a chance.
I can only recommend this game to platformer fans who own a bluetooth controller and can strongly resist spending money on a free app.
Also, it's sick that you got Nick from Planet Ripple to do some art!
You can be embarrassed all you want when i see fan-service in any game Im 100x more likely to be invested. Playing games with hot 2D women is the way to go.
@@revy1370 How's your relationship with your parents?
@@Legoluigi26 great actually. Both parents are working members of society and no divorce.
@@revy1370 Sweet! I'm glad to hear it. Have a blessed day, kind sir!
would the Zero and ZX series count as part of the "all inclusive megaman x retrospective"? because they do continue from the X series? or would they not count cuz they're branded as seperate series from x?
Yes. I play both the mobile and Steam versions actively enough. Both are fantastic romps for a few minutes at a time. Cinnamon makes most challenges non-challenges. Also, wouldn't be a J's review if he didn't throw in "war of attrition" somewhere in there lol.
dude i think you did something wrong cause i managed to get in the 16 world with a lot of S characters without putting any money
The game definitely had the potential to be great but is overbloated with micromanagement systems daily. Like every day you spend like 30 minutes going through menus to get that Battle Power up so you can spend your next 30 minutes inching through progressing the story mode.
The gameplay itself boils down to hallways with bullet sponges that test how much you micromanaged, with minimal platforming and forced combat sections sprinkled all over the stage.
The game would've benefitted more by being a looter shooter type of game like Warframe where you spend your time/money gathering resources from missions to craft weapons, armors, characters, etc of your choice. Instead of using that time/money on a slot machine.
And "X DiVE"? More like "S RaNK". The sheer overabundance of S Ranks (the RAREST characters in gacha) is ridiculous and some of the characters don't even make sense being that rare, most of them should be A heck even B Ranks.
Hopefully someday fan game developers will just rip the assets off X DiVE and make an actual Mega Man game with it.
I've been playing xdive everyday for the last yr (with a controller) and i love it. What makes it easy is sticking to who you like and who fits your play style, and investing in only that character or few characters to make them stronger. the only money i really put into the game is for the monthly rewards after i get the last item on the list. i save up the in game currency i earn for things i know i want when they are released so that im not short and tempted to put my own money with the risk of not getting what im after. You just gotta play it smart and have self control lol. And count on your luck when they give away free pulls.
Can you transfer the save data from steam to phone and phone to steam etc
...um
You didn't level right dude. Your chips suck, you have no leveled cards,...alright. Maybe you haven't played many games like this and that's ok. I myself haven't paid money, but I got as far as being rank 24 in the server. So I don't agree that this is like a standard mobile title. There are like seven different ways to unlock characters without spending money and the fact you spent 15 plus hours fighting a boss is egregious. Please, if you think there's a problem just ask for help. This game has an active community and they're pretty good at helping new players out. I actually kinda want you to continue playing because this game offers a lot that fans have been wanting for a long time. As a long time MegaMan enthusiast I feel that it would be sad for your journey in MegaMan X Dive to end on this note.
AKA, J discovers Gacha games
It's honestly fascinating how fast the mobile gaming industry evolved on a technological scale. About a decade ago we could barely play NES games on phones without them crapping out their existence and being 2 FPS. Nowadays phone games have the capability of having the graphics of 360 and PS3 games and can at least run in the double digits in the frames department consistently, that also coupled with just how much shit they jam pack in mobile games with all of these extra game modes. How fast we make technology more "efficient" is really interesting.
I always wanted to play this, kinda wish it would be brought to consoles. Being a Megaman fan isn’t easy when Capcom continues to do Monster Hunter and Resident Evil which I have no problem with.
Absolutely not ,just the art that is great
Not even the art.
They won, you gave them 20$.
The only reason I was willing to give XDive a chance was because I put Vectorman on my phone about 9 months ago (free on the App Store!) and it actually handled really well for a touch screen, it’s obviously not as precise as a controller, but it also wasn’t totally unplayable and the frame rate is totally solid. I was a little disappointed with the controls of xdive after coming straight from Vectorman’s really solid Genesis 3-button controller being in the bottom of the screen. XDive on mobile plays totally differently than other MegaMan games, but after a couple of days and unlocking some cool weapons and getting past the initial highway stages I began to enjoy the game for what it did right instead of lamenting what it got wrong. Being able to play as so many fan favorite characters is a real treat. And I also had no idea that there were so many top shelf waifus in the Mega Man-iverse.
So coming from a guy who has had experience in regards to leveling in this game for about 6 months on my main, you apparently can get to chapter 6 if you wanted in this game in 2 days from starting and that's already a third of the total worlds made. There are many systems that you need to power up and to those who plan to start this game I recommend focusing on a few characters first to invest into, and a couple of weapons that you enjoy the most so its not as hard to level up initially. I recommend pressing the total power panel which shows you all the things you can power up and where you are lacking in and from there it's just a matter of being patient at times and mastering the game.
Gonna be honest though the claims of spending your time holds true and most of the times patience is a virtue in this game when it comes to getting characters you want, but hey that goes for most of the game with this genre, nothing is ever fully guaranteed unless you are prepared for it.
In any case, godspeed guys and good luck if you want to venture into this game. Have fun and don't sweat too much. Try to take the game at your own pace.
It's a gacha game, of course it isn't
No, because it's going to shut down.
nah now its offline and hopefully no more gatcha
@Bionicle Forever In the trailer for offline it showed purchasing character memories with in-game money. The elemental metals look like they may still be in the game, but to serve what purpose is anyone's guess.
Learning that it's on steam makes me need to revisit it
I may have developed a slight addiction to this game, but I don't spend money on mobile games so it's fine
(also quick little thing, a central mechanic in this game is the power level. in the main menu you'll find a little meter and clicking on it takes you to a screen that tells you what you can do to raise it. the higher your power level, the stronger you are and the stronger you are, the more health you'll get and the more damage you'll deal. better armor can also be found in the co-op stages witch you can play alone. armor contributes a lot to your overall power level and the cards and chips you can get are awesome for this. the chips giving you a little boost to your weapons like say, a giant spike ball for your buster.)
No!!! it’s not worth for megaman fans. Worth for hardcore fans or people who look for Waifu. I don’t consider this a megaman game.
No, not at all, it not even feels like a megaman x game, its just a random platformer with a megaman x skin slapped on
Yeah its not even fun to go through the levels
@@ningensan8198 facts
I started playing this from 2000 s and still playing now what an iconic series ❤️
Let’s Dive right in and find out!
The steam version is the WORST version you could have possibly played.
How so?
@@tensedart3470 Although it is available for all Regions, it is still Asia version so it has it's issues like the store being foreign currency.
For PVP there is horrible lag because of server distance.
Steam, specifically, doesn't let you customize the Dpad for movement.
All of that is solved in the mobile version made by Nebulajoy.
The banners are a year or so behind, but it is quite generous and maybe they can keep up.
I'd rather try that one.
@@AsureyX Considering how you can't unlock all the characters easily because the rarity system and how expensive these banners are, it won't make any difference if you play the ASIAN version or the NebulaJoy version because with or without some banners for newer characters you still won't be able to get them
@@Ghosty_Dosty Negative.
Expecting getting characters easily tells me you're not familiar with these games. You are not supposed to get the characters in one play and it is not impossible to get the characters, even without paying. The game has it's incentives for players to pull for characters in various ways. Free 10 pulls, event rewards, even playing the game itself yields some units. I've been playing since day one as low spender and I could confidently say I got a great portion of the cast. Since I don't spend much, naturally I can't expect to acquire more than the rest and that is for copies of characters and that's ok.
Not all gacha games are created equal and I feel demonizing Xdive just for the reputation of the formula it's unfair.
The game even spares you from pulling excesively since once you get a character, you can raise it with special currency that you get by playing so no need to further spend on banners. As I said on another comment, something I wish other games replicated.
Did you commission NickonPlanetRipple to make the Thevious Raccoonus or did he draw that already? Lol.
The example you gave about devil may cry 5 microtransactions deserves a bit more clarifying. Higher-ups at capcom really wanted the game to have microtransactions and even the devs were unhappy about it so to counter it they created a microtransactions system that is essentially useless. Pay money to get orbs BUT there’s a weapon in the game that produces orbs plus orb farming tech. They made a monster and then they shot it. Just for us.
I got some what i think are great ideas for an x game
There are only four mavericks but have 4 stages each, in each set of stages focus on a certain theme which gets mixed with another once you get to the third one and the boss will be based around that. Such as say Sting Grasshopper being focused on fiery acid and the weapon you get from him would start barely usable but still functional, the player would then need to upgrade it like the zero games star system but with only 5 stars this will ( in verg voice) motivate players to use them especially if a lot of enemies are vastly easier with them in in other stage sets which could create a weakness chain but for stage and boss
For fun my maverick names
Sting Grasshopper( acid & fire)
Bubble snake( water & electricity
Flappy Bird( paper & glue/sticky goop)
Sky Bison( wind & storm (so like rain and stuff))
Literally if I just got regular Iris I would be fine. I haven't played over the past year and just started on the global but it's like her and other characters are just omitted on every banner listing. Are they just gone for anyone starting now or do they rotate characters eventually? Also, if she just straight up has a banner that has come on occasion I would be more than happy to start saving.
Does anyone know? I can't find a reliable calendar for banners. Which is funny if global is supposed to be following the order released on Taiwan server.
I have been playing this game so long that I really can't remember ever having trouble with the difficulty. Buuuuut I also had Ferham since the beginning when she first released. She's extremely good at not taking damage while dishing it out because shields work really well.
The steam version still isn't out in the UK D:
Great Stuff! I feel the exact same way you do! Especially about mobile games taking up too much of our time for absolutely no reason. It was the only reason I stopped playing CoD: Mobile. I’m glad I’m not the only one who notices this. Micro-transactions are not inherently bad, as CoD:Mobile shows us, but time sinks are.