Why Your Raw Fed Pet NEEDS Iodine
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2021
- Iodine is such a scary nutrient for raw feeders, as giving too little or too much can affect the thyroid gland negatively. Hopefully this video will help you understand the mechanisms of iodine and how to provide it properly to your raw fed pets!
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Iodine us one of those supplements I'm very reluctant adding especially the fact that one of my cats had hyperthyroidism and now CKD and I don't want to go through taking care of a hyperthyroid cat again
Completely understandable. Have you thought about getting your cat's meal formulated by a nutritionist?
Iodine is the one thing that I’m worried about dosing. It’s complicated for me to work out my cats daily calories.
Have you watched the video I linked to calculate calories?
@@PawsofPrey Yup yup.. I know how many calories he needs but not how many he has… It’s just all 🤯
@@safffzz3636 oh I see what you mean. Food data central provides the calories of most foods you add into the bowl, you'll just need to search the item, know how much of that item you're feeding, and then do the math from there. I go over it more simply in this video: ua-cam.com/video/H5Ry5s-X7Zw/v-deo.html
Great video! Didn’t know much about iodine.
Great video as always. Thanks for that!
Absolutely! :)
What about seamoss, bladderwack and some brands of spirulina & chlorella?
I have not read up on any reasons to feed seamless or bladderwrack but spirulina/chlorella do have their place in the diet under certain circumstances. Usually after vaccinations for detox.
How much iodine is present in an average chicken neck? Is it possible to provide adequate iodine with an appropriate amount of neck or trachea that has the thyroid gland present? I know it is possible to cause hypothyroidism from over feeding neck or trachea. Is it possible that AAFCO and the NRC have over calculated the iodine requirements for cats? They are so prone to hyperthyroidism. My sister’s cat has it (on a commercial kibble and canned diet).
Would be really nice if you can confirm my suspicion
The fear behind iodine overdose has been blown out of proportion.
I came across some studies: "In a 12-month study in dogs, doses of 30, 37.5, and 45 mg/kg body weight caused no overt signs of toxicity"
Even the strongest kelp powder has around 14mg iodine per gram (although the reality is closer to 0.10%, so 1000mcg max). Most dogs will be fine if you don't exceed ½ to 1 tsp of kelp a day.
I'm a bit frustrated, as I was too worried about adding too much kelp to my dog's diet. I added 4g/week, but I'd not care if he didn't eat it. He came as hypothyroid...
Ooo okkk I'll definitely try to get some
What about getting iodine by feeding necks/thyroid glands? Necks or backs usually contain the glands right? Could they be used to balance?
As opposed to supplementing with kelp or iodine drops? I’ve found a few pet stores around me carry large bags of chicken necks for pretty cheap and I buy a lot of head attached poultry, I worry that if I feed necks and supplement we’d over supply iodine
@@thehat222 I've seen posts about raw feeders that feed too much trachea/necks even as treats causing hyperthyroidism on their pets (they likely supplement iodine on top of that though!) . Personally I wouldn't supplement when using those. But since we don't know how much iodine are in these foods I rotate them with a supplement when not using them
Sigh. I really would love to feed my dogs completely raw but honestly your videos make me see how unrealistic it is in the location I live. Not saying they are bad! They’re quite informative. I just can’t keep up / don’t have the means or money necessary to feed a completely raw balanced diet. I’ll just add some meats and greens to their kibble but I hate giving it to them and I know they hate it too.
As long as you obtain complete raw from a quality raw food supplier who use quality human grade meat which is immediately frozen fresh. Everything your pet woll need will be ready abailable in this rather then your owm recipes. Unless your one whonhas loads of experience.
My kitten is my very first raw fed and i swear by it now. Even the poops dont smell.
My dog’s raw diet used to have lack in iodine. I started adding Iodine a few months ago, and his meals are waaay more balanced! I used the iodine drops you recommended to me! I’m a fan of the LifeFlo drops as I use them for myself as well! ^^
Aw that's great! :)
did you noticed a difference in your dog?
Q: I followed your calculations for how much kelp powder dosage my dog needed from your other videos. He needs 394.66 MCG is that for daily dosage?? Also I feed my dog a cooked green lipped mussel twice a week. Should I skip the kelp pwder on the days I feed him a mussel?
I actually found a raw diet kibble! The brand name is nature’s variety instinct the raw brand and it’s a pure raw diet kibble with no extra ingredients! And they have it for dogs and cats!
(Beef version) The ingredients for dogs are: beef, beef liver, pumpkin seeds, beef spleen, carrots, apples, butternut squash, ground flaxseed, dried kelp, broccoli, apple cider vinegar, salmon oil, rosemary extract, blueberries, and dried chicory root. The use monomorillonite clay for shape, mixed tocopherols as a preservative, and freeze dry it.
(Rabbit version)For cats the ingredients are: rabbit (including ground rabbit bone), pork, pork liver, pumpkin seeds, carrots, apples, butternut squash, rabbit liver, rabbit kidney, rabbit lung, dried kelp, broccoli, apple cider vinegar, salmon oil, rosemary extract, blueberries, and dried chicory root. The use monomorillonite clay for shape, mixed tocopherols as a preservative, and freeze dry it.
And they have plenty of flavors too like beef, rabbit, pork, fish, etc…
The point is I think you should definitely try this new stuff because it is amazing!
The price for a small bag is about 15 dollars and the price for a large bag is about 30 dollars. .
I know this is an old video but I have an Iodine question. I purchased, and have been using for a year, your spreadsheet dog meal formulator, and I really like it, it has made me confident that I'm giving my dog a balanced diet and I appreciate your hard work to help us raw feeders!! I needed to add iodine to her diet as it is low, and the life flo iodine is already on the drop down bar to add to my meal planning, so I purchased some and have just started using it, per my dogs needs she's supposed to get 4 drops a day or 240 mcg and I've started this week with 1 drop a day and will progress slowly, just making sure she doesn't have a bad reaction, but I see alot on the internet against potassium iodine has anything in your opinion changed in the last 2 years on the subject?
What happens if you give to much Iodine??
I've been feeding raw to my puppy for a couple of months now and she loves it but I'm starting to notice some hair loss around her back legs. I've added soaked and finely chopped pumpkin and sunflower seeds for the manganese and zinc but I'm lacking red meat as beef is so expensive here. She's scratching a lot and I'm struggling to work out if it is fleas (doesn't look like it) or an allergic reaction (more likely). Iodine would seem to be the only gap I have left but there doesn't seem to be any info about how much of it is needed for puppies. These videos are very useful but most seem geared towards adults cats/dogs and the poor puppies, who need the correct ratios of food additives the most, are being overlooked. At 7 months I've got her food down to 5% of her body weight but these gaps in what is best for puppies still need to be filled. Any help greatly appreciated.
I estimated the requirements based on the study and how much kcal my cats have per kg of raw food and we got the exact same result. Kudos! But should've trusted you 😂
Do you need to supplement iodine if you feed raw necks (with the thyroid glands removed) several times a week?
So for the drops, that means your dogs takes the 3 drops that are recommended on the bottle?
How do you measure the kelp? I unfortunately can't weigh it with my weight scale
Do you mean if the mcg dosage is too high for your pet? What I usually do is then find out how much of that nutrient they need within a week and if it's close to the serving dosage, I just split it evenly through the 7 meals
for those who feed their cat %50 wet food- %50 raw , do we have to add kelp powder ? or how much for a 3kg cat ( eats 300gr raw-wet mix a day)?
Where could you get Whole Foods at?
So if you're feeding your dog Matsu the now Kelp Powder which 1 scoop is 450mcg, and Matsu only needs 152mcg in this video, meaning you're only giving him half a scoop is that right? Thanks
Fediaf has minimum iodine 30mcg per kg^0,75 and based on this my pomeranian needs 100mcg bu based on your calculation it needs 57mcg. He is 10years old and eats 260kcal to maintain weight. I suspect your formula works for dogs that are more active and eat more calories?
I have to say that i am a bit overwhelmed. I started raw feeding to get away from all the added stuff in my cat’s diet , but with months of trying to understand what i need to add to a commercial food with only meat in it i am still very confused . I understand i need to add iodine , but what about all the other things ? Is there such a thing as a complete supplement powder for cats that only has the essential stuff and no veggies? I seem to only find these ones My cat had an allergic reaction to a blend that had supplements in it and i have no clue if it’s the eggs, the beef , the mussels or the fish that caused it . I want to provide the best for my old cat but i am very afraid i’ll make her sick . I feel like a failure because i can’t provide a lot of different proteins at the same time and can’t do a homemade diet . I am also absolutely unable to understand any literature that is more complex than your videos :( I hope i am not the only one
Have you thought of doing pre-made raw? It's already balanced and formulated for you
Does Morton LITE salt contain iodine ? The label says ionized salt and potassium chloride...
Dr Lisa Pierson used that. And I do not remember why she wouldn't recommend kelp.
Do the drops have any smell at all ?
Yep! Some raw feeders use iodized salt, however I don't really suggest it since it could bring the sodium intake higher than what's recommended daily. Not always, but it's a risk if you're not keeping an eye on the numbers.
@@PawsofPrey Morton Lite salt is half the sodium, and Dr Pierson would even advise using 50% of her recommended dose when a recipe contained an animal's neck/thyroid. Still, I asked Morton the exact iodine content of this LITE version, and I will post it here when they answer.
Dr Pierson was a pioneer on raw food. She does not do consults anymore. I guess her recipe can be improved, with more accurate measurements. I must say her cats lived very long lives... Up to their twenties !
I add kelp.
I can't find any of these (onlyno name iodine drops) so fingers crossed he's getting enough from fish, eggs or the wet food I'm giving him time to time.
I’ve been feeding my cat a raw blend mix of organ bones n muscle meat. But my cat keep shedding a lot .
Yay!!!!!!
What am I doing here? I don't even have a cat, dog or ferret.
Same lol.
Is Lugol's iodine suitable for dogs?
Lugol's is unfortunately very concentrated and way too high for pets!
@@PawsofPrey My dog occasionally enjoys seaweed snacks
@@PawsofPrey one drop in water?
For the feeders that don't want to feed their animals fish is this ok?
Sure, you can substitute with a high quality salmon oil!
@@PawsofPrey Ahh thank you.
How did you get 220
This is per the national research council's nutrient guidelines for dogs
Meanwhile, my cat has hyperthyroidism.
Oh, vegans attacked your channel.
My dogs love raw meat and I am raw meat eater myself.
Vegans who feed there dogs and cats a vegan diet are animal abusers!
If you want to be vegan fine but don't force your pets to be...
Did they? I guess I missed that lol
@@thetruepatriot7733 exactly!! Saddest part is, vet's and big pet food corps have given in and made 100% plant based "NO MEAT PERIOD" kibbles 🤦 in a year or 2 when all the "vegan pets" are suffering from severe deficiency's maybe the owners will learn.. It's unfortunate that pets will need to suffer though because of irresponsible owners that just can't stand to feed an animal what it NEEDS
@@mikefrost8775 it's very sad... vegans are suppose to care about animals instead there the ones committing animal cruelty... I've watched a few videos with vegans feeding there dogs there vegan foods.. the dogs woof the food down! Vegans think that's because they love the food when in reality the dogs woof the food down because there STARVING! they only eat it because there owners offer no alternative and these poor dogs are suffering. The look in there dogs eyes is sickness, these dogs aren't well.
Vegan here! Also a raw feeder, as what I choose to nourish my body with doesn’t change what my pet NEEDS.