I left out the main reason to add a comment! I really appreciated the detailed tutorial. It's triggered a slew of ideas about current projects and ways to use some of the tools in my workshop to make my life easier. Thanks again! Great Stuff!!!
Thank you both for the updated schedule! And, I appreciate all the work that has gone into this. Giving it a go...today I will be flattening the pieces. 🙂
How did it go? Wish there was a way you could share pics in the comments here but you can always share on my FB page too, Full Moon Loon Designs. Hope you’re having fun with this process!
What a great idea, thank you! Question: why do you use both thinfire and the thicker fire paper on both levels of the "sandwich"? What would it be like if you just used thinfire paper under and ontop of the glass?
These are so much fun. Thank you so much for sharing this technique. Much easier than pulling murrini and not as much equipment needed. I need to get busy.
Thank you ever so much for sharing!! Beautiful before firing and after...also makes me want a cricket; as if I haven't already spent enough on glass! Saving your video to my favorites!
You’re very welcome! I bought my Cricut primarily to enhance what I do with glass but have loved getting back into card making, and designs with vinyl and heat transfer vinyl.
Thank you! Yes, it’s made using a vitrigraph kiln and I buy them already pulled and sliced from Val Cox (valcox.com.) They’re basically cane that is hollow in the center and sliced into pieces around 1/2” to 1” tall. I full fuse them first to form into droplets and then flattened them.
Just a thought about why the lower layer did not flatten as much as the top. I suspect your shelf "weights" added enough thermal mass that they actually provided a bit of insulation to the lower layer, which resulted in a higher viscosity glass. Then again, as a relative noob, I could be entirely wrong. Seems a clear case for YMMV!
Thanks for sharing awesome work with us Jackie! My next kiln to buy is the vitrigraph . I just need to get motivated and use my kilns more. I do stained glass more and stopped fusing to catch up with everything . I keep buying glass and molds like a hoarder lol
Very interesting. Thank you for the great tutorial. I wonder if I can use a slightly thicker fiber paper. Mcgill's has items here and there--I have found some great deals, but no fiber paper in 2024. I can't believe how prices went up over the past 2-3 years.
Some people just use well coated kiln shelves but I feel better with the fiber and paper. I’m glad I still have a lot of my big roll of 1mm. It’s sad how everything just keeps going up in price!
I use Synthropol to wash the worm gunk and oils out of my silk fabric before I start painting on it! I got it from Dharma Trading. The company that makes it has stopped production of it. Does Val still have it on her website?
Thank you very much for this video, so informative and inspiring. However, could you explain what the ‘hollows’ are that you refer to, please. I’ve watched the video twice now and can’t see how you make those.
Thank you! I purchased the hollows from valcox.com. She makes them using a Vitrigraph kiln and does something special that she gets those lovely hollow tubes and then slices them into pieces. I first set those up to full fuse into little droplets and then flattened those. Hope this helps!
@@lesselavie7675 I don’t think any of the ones in this video had frit filled hollows but I have made some in the past. Usually I just stand the hollows on end and fire to a full fuse like making dots.
Loved the video. Why do you use the synthrapol what does it do? When would you use it? What brand and concentration do you use? Also, what did you use to hold your Stencel in place?
Thank you! It works to help hold frit in place so it doesn’t just bounce all over when applying. I bought it from www.valcox.com. I only use a few drops on a mister bottle of water. It also works well to hold a stencil in place, it’s hard to describe how it works but I think the little container I have should last a long time! 😁
You’re welcome and thank you! I have something called Synthrapol which is a surfactant and I purchased it from Val Cox (valcox.com) and just use a few drops in my misting bottle.
Hi Mimi - I bought a giant roll of 1MM fiber years ago really reasonably priced, so it was cheaper for me to use that instead of another layer of Papyros, I have heard others say they just used well kiln-washed shelves and not any shelf paper or fiber, but I would rather use the paper and fiber to be safe.
Most likely 9999, or AFAP (as fast as possible) or the display might read FULL depending on your kiln. But any annealing schedule I’ve used is targeted using the 9999/FULL rate. Hope that helps!
loved the more control method of pressing the glass; (ive been pressing lots of glass )what was the tool u used for the black frit? how did u cut out the paper to do the leaves? love the poppies and the hollow glass. what does hollow glass mean?
Thank you! The hollows are pieces of hollow cane that I buy from Val Cox (valcox.com) and they’re pre-sliced but then I full fuse them into little round droplets first and then flatten. The paper stencil was cut on my Cricut but you can easily cut with an Xacto knife too (my hand cutting skills are not so good so I use a Cricut.) 😁 The little tool is called a dot and line sifter (or maybe line and dot sifter) and they come in three sizes. I bought mine online from The Glass Underground.
Very nice. Excellent tutorial. One question though, I tried this and with the exception of black, every one came out a perfect circle. Any advice on how to get the organic shapes?
I wonder if you need to experiment with the hold time and/or weight on top. I’ve heard more time works better than more weight. You could always nip the edges or cut into them on a saw to add more variety to the edges. I’ve made flowers by taking 1” squares to the ring saw, mark with a marker like a plus sign and cut on saw toward but not all the way to the center and then round the edges of the slots a little if that makes sense. I want to do some like that and press them, perhaps a new video idea!
Thank you so much for sharing! Question: Other than a kiln shelf, what else can you use to weigh down a kiln shelf? Can you use regular red bricks for weights?
You're welcome, thank you for watching! I would not recommend red brick as there could be moisture causing them to explode in a kiln (not 100% sure they would but I've heard never put rocks in a kiln for that reason.) You can purchase fire brick, but best to find it locally so you don't have to pay for shipping. If you have any local glass shops, see if they have them or can order them for you. Fire brick is what is used in the brick kilns. I saw some recently on FB Marketplace really cheap but again shipping cost would be prohibitive so see if you can find them local to you. Good luck!
Let me see if they paste okay in the comments. They are in the video as well toward the end. Please remember all kilns are different and you may need to adjust time/temp. This is what I used for 96 COE glass. First step - creating the dots: 600/hr to 1550 hold 20 minutes AFAP to 950 hold 30 minutes Kiln off, wait until cool to open Second step - flattening the pieces: 600/hr to 1250 hold 30 minutes AFAP to 1550 hold 45 minutes AFAP to 950 hold 30 minutes Kiln off, wait until cool to open Fused dish: 250/hr to 1050 hold 60 minutes 50/hr to 1150 hold 30 minutes (bubble squeeze segment) 350/hr to 1400 hold 10 minutes (this temp & hold will depend on your kiln and your desired results, i.e. tack fuse, contour fuse, full fuse etc.) AFAP to 950 hold 90 minutes (this hold time depends on number of layers; I have two layers plus powder and flattened dots on top.) 100/hr to 600, no hold Kiln off, wait until cool to open Hope this helps!
Thank you! Most of them I did with two layers, however usually a 2mm clear base with a 3mm color on top of it. I like the lighter weight as opposed to two 3mm layers.
Hi Constance. I haven’t made the actual hollows, I get them from valcox.com. Let me see if I did a video on making them into the droplets, not sure I did.
Hi Candace - I apologize, I meant to show that as I know it didn't show well in the video. It is called a Line and Dot Applicator. I bought mine from The Glass Underground, here is a link (I think mine is a medium): www.shoptheunderground.com/products/metal-line-and-dot-applicator
Thanks Judy! Yes, I sort of stumbled into this idea accidentally when creating a few with a recent batch of hollows I was pressing. When I saw how cool the shapes were I had to try it on purpose! I also think it is interesting that the second shelf up from the bottom did better at thinning them. Thinking it is one of two things - being closer to the elements or the fact that heat rises. I'm certainly going to make more, and might do a batch on white using the "Mixed Breed" blend (lol!) to see what they look like.
@@FullMoonLoonDesigns I actually went back and watched again a d figured it out. Lived the video. Great instructions, I have some in my kiln right now! Fun new project. So again, thanks and thanks for replying!
Thank you and you’re welcome! The regular frit from Uroboros, Oceanside etc. I have just purchased most locally over time. The beautiful leaded colors are from Valcox.com.
The finished pieces are gorgeous! I’m so glad that I watched the entire video.
I love them all. Even the yellow ones.
Thank you for the extensive and clear instructions - I look forward to trying out these techniques!!
I left out the main reason to add a comment! I really appreciated the detailed tutorial. It's triggered a slew of ideas about current projects and ways to use some of the tools in my workshop to make my life easier. Thanks again! Great Stuff!!!
You’re so welcome and thank you!!
Always wonderful Thank you and Caren Ashford for sharing your knowledges , You are always sharing thank you for great video
Thank you and you are very welcome! Sorry for the delay in replying!
Thank you for sharing your process and lovely creations.
You’re very welcome and thank you!
Thank you both for the updated schedule! And, I appreciate all the work that has gone into this. Giving it a go...today I will be flattening the pieces. 🙂
How did it go? Wish there was a way you could share pics in the comments here but you can always share on my FB page too, Full Moon Loon Designs. Hope you’re having fun with this process!
What a great idea, thank you! Question: why do you use both thinfire and the thicker fire paper on both levels of the "sandwich"? What would it be like if you just used thinfire paper under and ontop of the glass?
Your processes are unique. Such beautiful, creative work!
Thank you so much!
Those yellow that you didn’t like? Crunch them up… perfect for autumn leaves or a field of sunflowers or other yellow flowers.
These are so much fun. Thank you so much for sharing this technique. Much easier than pulling murrini and not as much equipment needed. I need to get busy.
Thank you ever so much for sharing!! Beautiful before firing and after...also makes me want a cricket; as if I haven't already spent enough on glass! Saving your video to my favorites!
You’re very welcome! I bought my Cricut primarily to enhance what I do with glass but have loved getting back into card making, and designs with vinyl and heat transfer vinyl.
Love you video. Very informative. Thank You so much for sharing.
Thank you and you’re welcome!
Thank you for sharing all you do !
LOVE LOVE this video. THank you SO MUCH.
Beautiful 🥰 Thank you for sharing with me!
Thank you!
Thank you for another great video! I love your creativity!
You’re welcome and thank you!
how cool is that!!!! thanks for sharing!
Thank you and you’re welcome!
Great tip for cutting squares!
Glad it was helpful!
Wonderful project! Thank you for sharing ❤️
Thank you and you’re welcome!
Great video! Do I really have to fire into dots? Can I go straight to pressing a single shelf of bundles.
Lots of great information and wonderful video. Could you please explain what a "hollow" is?
Thank you! Yes, it’s made using a vitrigraph kiln and I buy them already pulled and sliced from Val Cox (valcox.com.) They’re basically cane that is hollow in the center and sliced into pieces around 1/2” to 1” tall. I full fuse them first to form into droplets and then flattened them.
@@FullMoonLoonDesigns Thanks so much for the information. I will check out Val Cox's website.
Just a thought about why the lower layer did not flatten as much as the top. I suspect your shelf "weights" added enough thermal mass that they actually provided a bit of insulation to the lower layer, which resulted in a higher viscosity glass. Then again, as a relative noob, I could be entirely wrong. Seems a clear case for YMMV!
I just love the sound of the loon
Thank you Jackie!!
You’re welcome, thank you for watching!
Thanks for sharing awesome work with us Jackie! My next kiln to buy is the vitrigraph . I just need to get motivated and use my kilns more.
I do stained glass more and stopped fusing to catch up with everything . I keep buying glass and molds like a hoarder lol
You’re very welcome and thank you! I know what you mean about the hoarding… I always think nothing else, but then there’s always something else!!!
Beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing it.
Thank you and you’re welcome!
Love these!
Thank you!
Thanks to share with us❤❤❤❤
You’re welcome!
Very interesting. Thank you for the great tutorial. I wonder if I can use a slightly thicker fiber paper. Mcgill's has items here and there--I have found some great deals, but no fiber paper in 2024. I can't believe how prices went up over the past 2-3 years.
Some people just use well coated kiln shelves but I feel better with the fiber and paper. I’m glad I still have a lot of my big roll of 1mm. It’s sad how everything just keeps going up in price!
And thank you for watching!
I use Synthropol to wash the worm gunk and oils out of my silk fabric before I start painting on it! I got it from Dharma Trading. The company that makes it has stopped production of it. Does Val still have it on her website?
Hi Denise, I just checked and she does: valcox.com/fusingfrit96/surfactant
Thank you very much for this video, so informative and inspiring. However, could you explain what the ‘hollows’ are that you refer to, please. I’ve watched the video twice now and can’t see how you make those.
Thank you! I purchased the hollows from valcox.com. She makes them using a Vitrigraph kiln and does something special that she gets those lovely hollow tubes and then slices them into pieces. I first set those up to full fuse into little droplets and then flattened those. Hope this helps!
Jackie, do you fill the hollows with frit?
@@lesselavie7675 I don’t think any of the ones in this video had frit filled hollows but I have made some in the past. Usually I just stand the hollows on end and fire to a full fuse like making dots.
Super instructions!!!
Beautiful!
Thank you!
Hi Rocco!!! He adds to the video.
Loved the video. Why do you use the synthrapol what does it do? When would you use it? What brand and concentration do you use? Also, what did you use to hold your Stencel in place?
Thank you! It works to help hold frit in place so it doesn’t just bounce all over when applying. I bought it from www.valcox.com. I only use a few drops on a mister bottle of water. It also works well to hold a stencil in place, it’s hard to describe how it works but I think the little container I have should last a long time! 😁
Thank you for this very useful video. Please tell me what was the spray you used on the stencil.
You’re welcome and thank you! I have something called Synthrapol which is a surfactant and I purchased it from Val Cox (valcox.com) and just use a few drops in my misting bottle.
@@FullMoonLoonDesigns thank you, will look and see if i can find in the uk
Thank you for the video. Who makes the frit you showed?
You're welcome and thank you for watching! The frit is by Val Cox, she has both 90 and 96 colors and blends on her website, www.valcox.com.
Have you tried without the fiber sheet? It’s so expensive i wonder how it would go without that?
Hi Mimi - I bought a giant roll of 1MM fiber years ago really reasonably priced, so it was cheaper for me to use that instead of another layer of Papyros, I have heard others say they just used well kiln-washed shelves and not any shelf paper or fiber, but I would rather use the paper and fiber to be safe.
Thank you! Having fun trying this.
On Caren's schedule is the third segment really 999-900-30 or did she mean 9999-900-30?
Most likely 9999, or AFAP (as fast as possible) or the display might read FULL depending on your kiln. But any annealing schedule I’ve used is targeted using the 9999/FULL rate. Hope that helps!
loved the more control method of pressing the glass; (ive been pressing lots of glass )what was the tool u used for the black frit? how did u cut out the paper to do the leaves? love the poppies and the hollow glass. what does hollow glass mean?
Thank you! The hollows are pieces of hollow cane that I buy from Val Cox (valcox.com) and they’re pre-sliced but then I full fuse them into little round droplets first and then flatten. The paper stencil was cut on my Cricut but you can easily cut with an Xacto knife too (my hand cutting skills are not so good so I use a Cricut.) 😁 The little tool is called a dot and line sifter (or maybe line and dot sifter) and they come in three sizes. I bought mine online from The Glass Underground.
Very nice. Excellent tutorial.
One question though, I tried this and with the exception of black, every one came out a perfect circle. Any advice on how to get the organic shapes?
I wonder if you need to experiment with the hold time and/or weight on top. I’ve heard more time works better than more weight. You could always nip the edges or cut into them on a saw to add more variety to the edges. I’ve made flowers by taking 1” squares to the ring saw, mark with a marker like a plus sign and cut on saw toward but not all the way to the center and then round the edges of the slots a little if that makes sense. I want to do some like that and press them, perhaps a new video idea!
Thank you so much for sharing!
Question:
Other than a kiln shelf, what else can you use to weigh down a kiln shelf? Can you use regular red bricks for weights?
You're welcome, thank you for watching! I would not recommend red brick as there could be moisture causing them to explode in a kiln (not 100% sure they would but I've heard never put rocks in a kiln for that reason.) You can purchase fire brick, but best to find it locally so you don't have to pay for shipping. If you have any local glass shops, see if they have them or can order them for you. Fire brick is what is used in the brick kilns. I saw some recently on FB Marketplace really cheap but again shipping cost would be prohibitive so see if you can find them local to you. Good luck!
What about floor tiles?
Could you put the firing schedules here in the comments?
Let me see if they paste okay in the comments. They are in the video as well toward the end. Please remember all kilns are different and you may need to adjust time/temp. This is what I used for 96 COE glass.
First step - creating the dots:
600/hr to 1550 hold 20 minutes
AFAP to 950 hold 30 minutes
Kiln off, wait until cool to open
Second step - flattening the pieces:
600/hr to 1250 hold 30 minutes
AFAP to 1550 hold 45 minutes
AFAP to 950 hold 30 minutes
Kiln off, wait until cool to open
Fused dish:
250/hr to 1050 hold 60 minutes
50/hr to 1150 hold 30 minutes (bubble squeeze segment)
350/hr to 1400 hold 10 minutes (this temp & hold will depend on your kiln and your desired results, i.e. tack fuse, contour fuse, full fuse etc.)
AFAP to 950 hold 90 minutes (this hold time depends on number of layers; I have two layers plus powder and flattened dots on top.)
100/hr to 600, no hold
Kiln off, wait until cool to open
Hope this helps!
Are the little trays double layer glass as well? These are adorable!
Thank you! Most of them I did with two layers, however usually a 2mm clear base with a 3mm color on top of it. I like the lighter weight as opposed to two 3mm layers.
Could you direct me to your video where you made hollows.
Hi Constance. I haven’t made the actual hollows, I get them from valcox.com. Let me see if I did a video on making them into the droplets, not sure I did.
@@FullMoonLoonDesigns thanks, would appreciate that!
What is the frit tool you mentioned?
Hi Candace - I apologize, I meant to show that as I know it didn't show well in the video. It is called a Line and Dot Applicator. I bought mine from The Glass Underground, here is a link (I think mine is a medium): www.shoptheunderground.com/products/metal-line-and-dot-applicator
Were you surprised that you got so many organic shapes? I would not have expected that, but they are super pretty!
Thanks Judy! Yes, I sort of stumbled into this idea accidentally when creating a few with a recent batch of hollows I was pressing. When I saw how cool the shapes were I had to try it on purpose! I also think it is interesting that the second shelf up from the bottom did better at thinning them. Thinking it is one of two things - being closer to the elements or the fact that heat rises. I'm certainly going to make more, and might do a batch on white using the "Mixed Breed" blend (lol!) to see what they look like.
Coe 96 glass.?
Yes, these were all 96.
@@FullMoonLoonDesigns I actually went back and watched again a d figured it out. Lived the video. Great instructions, I have some in my kiln right now! Fun new project. So again, thanks and thanks for replying!
Great tutorial! I really enjoyed all the steps. Where do you get your bottles of frit from? Thank you again! Cheers from Canada.
Thank you and you’re welcome! The regular frit from Uroboros, Oceanside etc. I have just purchased most locally over time. The beautiful leaded colors are from Valcox.com.
Fine or med. frit?
Most is more like a medium grain.
@@FullMoonLoonDesigns thanks Jackie you are always here for us…hugs
Top layer got more heat
Show thetools...we just see your hand