'Hidden Surprises In The Porsche!' | Porsche 356 Restoration | Episode 2
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2021
- With the Porsche 356 barn-find now on the jig, I can begin stripping down the interior to prepare for sandblasting! A tough task to do on my own, and it certainly through up a few challenges...
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With the value of this Porsche and the age, nearly 65 years old, have this professionally dipped. It will reveal the factory metal that has perished and needs structural sheet-metal replacement due to rust. Taking the front and rear external sheet-metal clips off, including the floor pan to reveal the Porsche 'tub' is going to reveal alot of what metal is simply too far gone. I think you've discovered an absolute gem.
Brilliant thank you very much for the help, nice one
Definitely have it dipped
Hope that you remembered to paint match first!
Hi Dom. As a serial restorer I have experience of most stripping systems and so here are my thoughts for you:
Blasting: can be great, depends on the medium you use and the operator, and how much you are prepared to pay to have it done slowly. The 356 has some nice curves which will help the panels resist distortion, but I suspect even careful blasting will see the floor reduced to dust, so I’d spend some time welding in braces unless you’re going to get it blasted while it’s on the jig. Also allow a lot of time for blowing, vacuuming, brushing, blowing, vacuuming, brushing ad nauseam to get the sand out prior to painting.
Acid or caustic dipping: works fine, again depending on the operator, but unless it is dipped again in a hot neutralising solution, then rinsed extremely thoroughly, the chemical will lodge in the seams and then leach out later…. Nasty.
Cooking: you can stick it in an oven and reduce the paint and filler to ash, which works extremely well and is benign in the long term. Don’t get it too hot and let the metal lose its temper, and allow plenty of time for cleaning out the ash. This won’t blast off surface rust, but that is something you can do on an area-by-area basis as you work through the body repairs.
The alternative to all of these is to do it yourself with a wire brush and grinder, repairing and priming as you go. That’s cheaper, but you’ll always find nooks and crannies you just can’t get into.
Me? I’d go the cooking route with a nice metal shell like that. As always, whatever method you choose, you need to research the specialists and be prepared to pay a bit more for a good one: all of the systems can be a disaster if you get a cowboy involved.
Last thing: get the paint matched NOW, before you start to strip the shell, and write the code down in the back of the notebook you’re keeping. (You are keeping notes, aren’t you..?)
I’m very jealous, it’s going to be beautiful, looks like a wonderful project. What year is your car?
Cheers
Will
Hi Dom, I'm with this guy. I've never had a car stripped back, but read plenty of stuff from this who have, willgrime's comments reflect everything I've heard about the various methods available.
Now all you have to do is decide which one to go for 🤔
Thank you so much for the detailed comment! I really appreciate your views,
Decisions decisions!
@@DominicChineas I'm with willgrime I have restored many a car over the years and one thing I have learned is to listen to people with experience. Will is spot on with the stripping options. Now it's your choice. I agree with welding in supports as well. As stated, unless you have the shell blasted (or whatever) on the jig as soon as you take her off she will collapse like a wet paper bag.
Whichever route you go down, do as he says and get the paint matched now.
Soda blasting might be worth a thought, kinder to the metal, and can be cleaned up with water.
Hi, Dom. Some good advice on stripping in the comments. My advice is don't throw anything away. Not even that horrible headliner. It all comes in useful for reference
Dom-
A couple of points if I may. In the case of stripping the metal back bare, because of the thickness of the material, you might consider the acid dip approach. It will get into all of the nooks and crannies that blasting might not, and help neutralize anything that is inaccessible. Just be sure whoever does it has an effective neutralization process for the acids used, otherwise I may cause more rust and rot down the line.
You also might consider investing in a decent shop-vac set-up. A 5 horsepower canister type vacuum with a stiff brush attachment will allow you to stay on top of the dirt/dust and debris while you are tearing it down. Be sure to have a couple of extra filters on hand.
Lastly- bag and tag every single piece. As an aircraft restorer I can say with absolute certainty this will save you time on the back-half of the project.
I am glad to hear you are going with the original blue. Such a classy color. Please keep the updates coming fast and furious! All the best….
-Thor
Citric acid perhaps? Same type they use for flushing pipelines.
Add a Thien separator to the shop vac too.
Defo on the bag & tag. White paint pens work a treat.
Citric acid is the type in lemons it’s not very powerful and If you do end up having citric acid used it might take a while
Viewed from the colonies, the kuntharzlak [lacquer] color is Fjord Green. When my mate restored an almost as challenging 1959 A Cabriolet he adopted this magical color, ditching the signal 'retail red'.
[You have to count the, ahem..spot welds attaching the pan]. Your perseverance will be rewarded in EVERY drive. This will be a compelling adventure, indeed. Best on you mate.
Difficult to locate but near essential upgrade: the drive wiil improve immensely with you replacing the 1957 steering box with the next iteration. Cheers-
The 356 Registry will be an essential archive resource. All the 356 panels are readily available. You will earn a frequent flyer award!
I can see you down the coast eating fish and chips in the porsche, just keep chipping away at it you get there.great video.
Woah!
Looks like you're going to be welding a new car onto that blue bit!
💚🐇🐴💚
Keep at it Dom, looking forward to watching this come together over the coming weeks.
It’s an epic undertaking! Looking forward to seeing more of this restoration.
Brilliant as always..Dom far from me telling you what to do.. but as a severe COPD suffer please wear a mask mate
I’m sorry! I should know better
Loving the series and great to follow your journey with the Porsche…
Good start Dom, cannot wait for the next episode.
Great to see a classic getting saved for future generations to enjoy. Great work.
What an absolutely ace project...this is going to be an absolutely fantastic journey, can't wait Dom :-)
Just discovered Dom's channel with the Porsche and all the others.
For me its the best on UA-cam
Epic effort and restoration. Will be awesome when completed and the journey may be the best part. Massive physical and mental investment, a few bob too. Looking forward to the next installment, cheers. Thank you for posting.
Great video Dom. Can't wait for part 3. It's gonna look stunning when done.
Hi Dom..loving watching the 356 strip down and restoration - keep it coming !
Thanks so much for showing us your progress, can't wait for the next episode :)
Is anyone else here from the 356 registry, Dom you must join, the knowledge is astonishing, people are so nice and every vendor you ever wanted is available, it will make life so much easier, im sure someone else from the registry is watching this so apologies if this is the 100th reference
Nobody has mentioned it yet! Thank you I am not a member yet, I will look into it
Yep beer time!🍻
Definitely!
This is a going to be a great series, looking at fact you have a lot of good metal then maybe the experts will say dip! Good luck
Living vicariously. Had to give mine up mid project due to multiple moves. I can’t wait to see the result. These are special.
Now we're talking! Glad to see you digging in. Can't wait to start in on my early 911 (in a similar condition!)
Great to see you getting stuck into the Porsche 356 restoration. Loads of work, but taking your time with it will reap rewards.
Great video. I love a Sunday night 👍
excellent episode 2 Dom good to see the Porsche is up and getting ready to be rebuilt :)
G'day Dom, We are Repair Shop UK fans from Brisbane Australia and love the work you do there and this 356 project has me hooked can't wait to see it finished and cruising down the road
As soon as you started, I thought why is`nt he taking pics and labeling things !!
Recon you have quite a job there....Good Luck.
GREAT music! Goes along with this sort of thing perfectly!
Hi Dom, all I can say is, huge admiration for embarking on such a mammoth task. Clearly not something to take on lightly. Do you ever feel like the spinning plate guy at the circus. Porsche, Series 2, Ranalah, BSA, Repair Shop and who knows what else lurking in the background. Seriously though, I wish you every success and enjoyment with your projects.
The revelation of the original colour dash top was great 👍, but you definitely have a long job ahead of you 😉
This is awesome. I love this stuff. Total admiration for your love and enthusiasm for this beautiful car.
Im glad you agree, it’s such a beautiful car
Love your work Dominic, keep up the good work on the English wheel machines, love it,
The 356 looks great with that rear cutaway.
Fabulous build Dom. I can’t wait to see episode 227 .....The one where Dom drives his Porsche at Goodwood revival” 👌
I’ve done 2 vehicles dipped and phosphate coated with no problems. It is important to clean the metal throughly before paint. I also used cavity wax on all the seams after paint. First vehicle was done 6 years ago with no problems. Current project was painted 6 month ago again no problems. This is the process a professional restoration shop told me and they do some very rare and expensive cars. I’ve try media blasting and found the results not as good as there were areas they could not reach. Hope this helps, good luck.
Always thought I could do something like this. I can't. Thanks for saving me a lot of time and money!
Cheers Dom well early days cant wait to see more of this awesome man
Hi Dominic chomping at the bit for part 3!!!
I have been waiting for episode 2 of this series... thank you!
Loving this series, the original blue is awesome 😎
Thats a big undertaking, but she's got enough left to work with. She'll be a looker when she's done in years to come!
Very cool resto project. Can't wait to see it progress
Can't help but admire the optimism and enthusiasm, hope it comes off I'm looking forward to a fantastic result.
Dom, All your stuff is fascinating. Educational and entertaining. And I've realised that I really enjoy the musical background. Keep it coming. Simon T
I'm torn between envy and pity for you. I've worked on a few cars but can't imagine tackling that rust bucket. May you have the best of luck.
Hi Dom , I really hope you get this done and I can't wait to see the finished result but WOW!! what a job you e given yourself 🤞🤞
I will definitely get it finished, it will just take some time!
Very good Video.
I am from Germany 😁✌️
I think sandblasting ist the best way. I restore little Things,Machines and i Always sandblast them.
Hang in there mate. Small bites and careful planning. All the best from Australia
Thanks for the support, I just wish I had more time to work on it!
Dom..so envious of your 356 and the opportunity you have to restore it..going to be fantastic..
Thank you, I can’t wait
Makes me feel a lot better about my projects. Good luck!
First video I watched from this channel so far its great
Thank you, glad you have found us!
Best Chanel on you tube. I’m can’t wait for the next video. Looking forward to seeing you on the sea front.
Great to see more progress on the Porsche!
With the wiring I made a new loom for my mk1 Cortina recently including 3D printing new loom plugs but found that there is a great new fuse/fusebox kit from a company called MTA. Its modular and made a neater job than what I had!
I also scanned the loom diagram and coloured it in on paint, then broke it down to engine, interior, lighting etc and that made making the loom much easier.
Good luck I know you'll do a great job! 👍
Dom -- You are off to a great start on this series.... Keep the updates coming!
Thank you, I will try
Great project and another great video!
My goodness! Boy do you need "the power of electrolysis. How to transform a rusty" Porsche to part quote one of your episodes. Fingers crossed when you take the old thing for a dip. I wish you the best of luck in transforming your dream car. Love your weekly episodes Dom. Keep up the good work.
Great progress Dom! Don’t envy you at the moment, there’s a lot of work ahead of you. I will envy you when it’s complete though 🤣
Knowing the art of metalwork as you do, this will be a treat to watch this posha car go back together. Well done for taking it on, it will look stunning in original etna blue???? Royal blue????? Who knows 👍🏻
Great work Dom.
I accidently found your channel a couple of days after you released episode one of your Porsche restoration. I'm hooked. This episode was awesome and after a day like that "A" beer isn't enough! Can't wait for episode three!
Thanks for joining us!
Can't wait for the next instalment.
Wuoooooo
Love restauration 😍😍😍💖💖💖💖💖
Congrsts from Spain 🇪🇦
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You inspire sir!
I'd ask the Fuz Bot if I were you! Most of the DIY SOSage basket cases like this they have acid dipped. But prepare yourself for a world of lace when it comes back...
Agree with the comments below on bracing the shell first though.
As for the rear end you cut off, have a look at Harry's Garage Alfa he's having restored, looking at that, your crash damaged bits may be saved.
In any case, love the content! 👍
It is interesting finding you to be a gearhead, an American slang, look forward to the series
The rear is looking a bit like a barn find 356 RSR now, Dom! Looking forward to seeing the progress👍🏼
Vicariously living my 356 dreams through you Dom! Please do me one favour though and wear at least a half-face respirator when cutting, grinding and using a wire wheel. There are some nasty substances on car bodies of that era, so you don't want to be breathing the dust in. Good luck and looking forward to the journey! Cheers from Melbourne Australia.
Well done Dom and Dan great filming👍
Thank you!
Just recently found your channel. I have been catching up with previous videos. Really enjoying watching them. My late dad brought me up going to car shows, making kit cars etc so really enjoying seeing your projects.
Brilliant to have you with us! I hope you’ll stick around
Having fun bloc. Greetings from Southern California where all our cars are rust free. Jaaa yeah right.
I had a car dipped, and issue was years later the 'dip' solution kept appearing here and there where is was hard to get out of nooks and crannies. Not horrible issue but caused problems. Next time I had a car media blasted, better result, issue there was that car produced dust, again from nooks and crannies, during primer, sealer and paint and even after it was done. I spent hours cleaning, even with the car on a rotisserie, better result than dipping. Last car I stripped with a soy bean stripper-google it-worked awesome, no caustic smell-of course this didn't do metal prep as blasting would. Only issue there was just making sure you washed all the oily residue off-wash, rinse, repeat. That's my experience...looking forward to watching.
Thanks so much for the useful information! nice one
@@DominicChineas Should have added these were all 356's...
I agree, I've seen worse, but never worked on one that bad. Done correctly, with Dom's skill, he will get all his money back and more..my two cents.@@barryjohnson127
I sand blasted a mk2 escort shell years ago .
Had sand keep coming out of places was a pain .
Also it did nothing to stop the rust inside A pillars etc
I was under the impression that acid dipping was a more thorough process.
Good luck with your project
@Brian: Was that organic soy bean or what? I mean if you consider the sustainability of the project? I personally suggest fermented japanese nattõ beans, excellent stuff even though it is an acquired taste. Highly reccomended, especially with a raw egg. The nattõ might be a little sticky, true, but on the other hand, that might help with getting the smaller bits out and may add a certain crunchiness to the mix. Delicious, probably. And who wouldn’t happily digest a vintage Porsche? Iron deficiency can lead to anemia, after all, and you don’t need that with such a demanding project.
Another vote for dipping it, to get into all the sections that media blasting won’t reach.
By the looks of it, you’ll need to build a hell of a structure to hold it together during the process so it doesn’t all fizz away 😄
*sniff sniff* Bad Obsession Porsche version
Edit- keep up the good work! Really enjoying this series!
Great job. It'll take time. But you'll get there. Be blessed.
Sandblasting is what the car restorers I've watched on TV are using in general. I suppose everything has to be accessible to it, though. Looking forward to the next videos!
Hey Dom I love this content please keep them coming
Love your vids Dom, keep em comin!!
I’ll try my best! Thanks for watching
So far so good.👍👍would like to see the rest all.
Top effort Dom! agree with others - the Repair Shop has a lot of talent that would be very helpful! Guages by Steve, upholstery & dash by Sonnaz and Suzie. Don't think there'd be much for Will to do unless you want a woodgrained dash! 😁
Hi Dom I had my 74 T2 Bay sand blasted ten years back just left me with clean solid metal. Nice starting point for any project.
thank you for taking us to that ride...not sure how much of the car will be left after blasting with the right media to be find. No sandblasting on the outer body and doors. would use ice outside and sandblast for inner and under structure only. And - respect for the camera and video editing - great job.
Dan always does such a nice job with the filming! Thanks for noticing!
Good luck with the restoration Dom, look forward to seeing the progress you make on it. Spent today fighting with the dashboard removal on my frogeye and the gauges and switches.
Working upside down under a dash is never nice, especially when it’s so rusty and gross!
Hi Dom, I was shouting mark the cables, (to late ) Can't wait for the next stage, With you all the way, All the Best Brian 🤗
I’m sure I’ll figure it out later! Haha
dom put the word out to your mates beers and pizza on a friday night a pull a full weekender with them in shifts you would get a hell of a lot done cause thats what mates are for cheers from down under
This looks like a massive job but what a project. All you need now us the time to do it. I think you may be calling on a few friends at the repair shop. You looked like you were in your happy place during this video. Can’t wait to see the next episode.
I really enjoyed working on it! It’s nice to be able to save these old things..
Mark is definitely going to be the first person I call for the radio! I will make sure I film it..
If you put as much love and attention that you used dismantling, into the restoration and rebuild, I’m sure this beautiful car is in good hands. I’m relishing the thought of following this project.. keep it up through thick and thin.
Thank you, I will do my best
That was brilliant
Glad you enjoyed it!
Lovely project.
Dom I now declare you The Stig of 356 restoration: bravest man alive!
Yes! Haha it’s going to be good
Hi Dom, I've been watching the "Binky" build for the last 8 years and I'm happy to say this has all the hallmarks of another epic series, have always thought the coupe profile was better than the roadster, good luck with the restoration.
It is obvious, that you really love this car. I can´t image how mutch work this will be, but I wish you the very best.
Hello Dom,
Good to see you getting stuck into the 356... here in Pompey we call it a "Porsche" rather than a "Porsche A". See you next week.
Take care.
Paul,,
Every which way its fantastic! - great edit as always, interesting pros/cons read in the comments.
Hi Dom, I know I say every VLOG mate, but WOW another brilliant one 👏
That blue is a fantastic color. I have just seen the 356 that Renner Auto have done in that color. It looks fabulous.
This brings back memories, or were they nightmares, of some of my Porsche resto jobs. I seldom kept a 356 in such bad shape and then only for the rare bits. I had a '59 Convertible D that was in similar shape in 2 separate pieces and just put it in a container and shipped it to a buyer in Italy. Cars like this one are the reason I finally switched to building and prepping race vehicles only.
When doing wiring use the Porsche Factory Manual and Parts Books for reference. Take plenty of photos before disassembling wiring and intricate mechanical parts. In my shop we hand stripped all paint and surface rust. Any deep rust was removed and replaced with new sheet metal.
thanks for the updates Dom.hope to see you down southend one day while me and the mrs have fish n chips by the sea
Dom, I used to bead blast all the formula Ford frames I restored over the years. The problem of blast media Brian described can potentially be reduced since you'll be cutting off major rust/impact damage beforehand, thus opening things for blasting and later cleanup. Nothing is 100%, everything will require work afterward. Yes, it looks really bad right now, but after cleaning you'll see what you've got, and can start the rebuild process.
Keep up the good work... I'll be, "Front Row... Center Stage!"
Glad to hear your with me on this! Thank you, yes as you say, there won’t be many areas for media to get stuck! There’s plenty of holes haha
you deserve a beer after that.maybe 2 🍻🍻