That‘s what I thought of her, too. Then there is the feeling of being entitled to have a better life. And the feeling of grandiosity - oh, nobody will ever think of me as the murderer with all the evidence. And lack of empathy - I did not see a single tear or emotion when talking about the tragic loss of her loved one.
Nah, that's a big stretch. She didn't say it in a way that matches your accusation. She was pretending to be amazed that such a wonderful man loved her, nothing deeper. Even True Crime fans WAY overestimate how many killers have Narcissistic personality disorder, zero conscience and empathy psychopath, etc. Would you believe that someone can make YOU seem "narcissictic" by recording everything you say for one day and selecting sentences to fit that narrative?
@@goblin-nightAbout 6% of the general population has NPD, it’s not uncommon at all, and it’s much higher amongst people who go on to commit crimes like this.
IIRC I think it was on Dreading’s video about this case where they said since he passed at work she’d be eligible to collect on his workers’ compensation. Whether it was a deliberate choice or just a convenient coincidence for Nancy is unclear to me. Of course it’s awful to traumatize the students like that. RIP Dan Brophy.
@LadyVanHelsing713 has dreading gotten in depth again? When they came on the scene, omg it was incredible. I would actually tell people about the channel. Then suddenly it became hours of interrogation footage/body cam. I like interrogation and body cam too, but for a channel to go from super well researched and detailed episodes, to hours of little information and just interrogation/body cam... my bubble burst and I left them. What they started with was one of the best, most incredible channels I had ever seen. I hope if they haven't yet, they will go back to that. I think about it so much.
@@meghanbarton5532 they still do a lot of interrogation footage and body cam from what I’ve seen but I guess it depends on the case. Like their video on Richard Merritt was okay but their current series on Chris Watts is very footage heavy.
I've watched a lot of videos on this woman, and this is by far the most detailed and thoughtful; you really brought Dan alive and showed what an incredibly arrogant, stupid and selfish woman his wife is.
What keeps drawing me back to this UA-cam channel and why Giles is my favorite in the true crime genre is just this. So many others focus on the killers, but Giles gives life to the victims. And does such in-depth research into who they were as people aside from the generic "they lit up a room" you hear in other shows
Taking the stand is really not the best idea people have and definitely all three were asked not too. Narcissists will be adamant because they assume they’ll talk themselves out of everything.
@@gingersmith2888yes, Dan's son, Nathaniel Stillwater, states during his incredible victim impact statement that he learned during the past few years that Nancy's reaction to finding out Dan was still married to Nathaniel's mother was "I can fix that."
@@AI-dp3rd that’s awful! I will have to listen to Nathaniel’s statement again, I missed that. It’s kind of interesting that Nancy’s name wasn’t on the mortgage or deed to the house.
She is insufferable to listen to. The way she speaks is so calculated and “oh woe is me I’m just a grieving elderly widow, can’t you hear it in my voice?” I cannot stand her-I’m so glad she was so careless and got caught so quickly.
When there is a case that’s been covered over and over, I don’t run to watch..unless This is Monsters covers it! Jiles is so thorough, details unmatched.
As a mushroom hunter, I can tell you her story about him wanting to carry a gun while hunting is insane. You don't want to carry any extra weight, because you are anticipating carrying all the mushroom you possibly can.
Yes, another ridiculous lie from this obnoxious woman. Mushroom foragers don't rate high on the list of violent criminals. She's so full of herself, she can't see how stupid she sounds.
As a mushroom hunter, we always carry while hunting. We have been followed to our patch before and it’s not safe to wander around the woods with no protection.
For the record 1) from other podcasts I've learned that their financial issues were her fault. 2) just cuz someone is expressing grief that doesn't mean they can't be a murderer. It's very possible she regretted what she did or that the stress of the situation was what made her cry in front of her niece.
Or she cried bc she was upset she knew there would be a trial... Yeah, people can draw on emotions to fake other emotions. That's how acting works. Lol!
True. Some people can grieve the person they killed due to regretting it and I think that fact is overlooked. A person may also cry or react to the PTSD they just inflicted upon themselves due to their own actions.. Of course, that's less common than them grieving for theme for being punished for it. Interesting perspective.
Her niece lied as much as she did , I didn’t believe anything any of her family said . The Uncle that died was like “Mr. Rogers” and a big part of the family. but when asked when he died she wasn’t sure . Yeah ok .
I’ve watched a lot of videos about this murder and Nancy’s ridiculousness but thank you for really humanizing Chef Brophy. He sounds like he was such a treasure to his friends & family and students and community. Nancy Brophy really is a monster.
I was hoping you'd cover Chef Brophy. Nancy absolutely *_infuriates_* me, and I keep coming back to this case in order to watch her talk her own way into her conviction.
dreading (crime & psychology) channel did a good video on Nancy Brophy last year, if you're interested. Lots of other great content on that channel, too.
@@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. Yup, seen that one. I'm a little annoyed Dreading ended his video before the best parts of Nancy's cross examination, though. I like your username, by the way.
I am so glad you are covering this case. Dan seemed like such an amazing man and to be murdered by that harpy because she wanted to pretend to be a famous writer is the most vile and wicked thing I've ever heard (I've heard of much worse things, especially from cases you've covered on this channel but my statement still stands). This case makes my blood boil and I am so glad that hag will never see the light of day outside of a prison.
It's a creature from Greek mythology. Described as a rapacious monster that had a woman's head and body and a bird's wings and claws. It's also a word to describe an unpleasant woman which definitely fits Nancy quite well.
Reason to her, was money. I hope she regrets every minute of the life she chose, instead of the peaceful, indulged life she had, with an interesting and loving man. I hope, in his last minutes, he didn't know it was his wife that took his life away.
" I'm diabetic. My eyesight is bad. I have hearing loss. Now I have memory loss." It didn't stop her from killing her husband. These health excuses are just that... Completely ridiculous...
I went to OCI. This video is how I learned about this tragedy. I really liked him, I'll remember him walking through the T1 classroom singing Credence Clearwater Revival. I'm simply blown away.
The irony that she literally had the perfect man and it was HER ACTIONS that ruined their finances and her solution… to kill him. I mean wtf? Goodness knows what he saw in her and she repaid him by shooting him from the front. Which has to be the coldest way for a partner to kill another partner.
Even worse than that: She paralyzed him with a shot to the back and then killed him with a shot to the heart while he was lying face-up on the ground. I hate that he cheated on/left his first wife (and his son Nathan's mom) for this hell-witch, but Dan Brophy did not deserve to die like that. I feel so awful for his parents as well as his son.
Exactly!! We all love $$, 1.5 million would be awesome. But not at the cost of losing a great partner. I tell my fiance all the time that I won the perfect man lottery. Now we just have to win that powerball together, then it will be super perfect. But he is worth more than a million dollars to me. It sounds like Daniel was too.
Really good hearted individuals are so naive to their toxic partners all the time. I gave this abusive man 4 years of my time. My now BF gave this really evil woman years of his time. My cousin has been with a very immature, inconsiderate, jerk, mommy's boy & has been engaged for 6 years.... it's so sad watching especially since I've been through it.
Man, thanks to the internet, I've seen so many elderly people my age acting horribly. I don't remember elderly people acting the fool like they do today. I used to be a Karen and throw fits because of a mental illness misdiagnosis. Seven years ago, I was diagnosed as bipolar 2 and my world has completely changed because of therapy, medication changes, and hours upon hours of work.. Because of my poor behavior, I alienated my family and most of my friends. I feel tremendous guilt that will never go away, or should. I'm grateful that I finally found peace of mind and treat everyone with respect now. The constant turmoil in my mind is gone, as is the crippling anxiety and wrong, self-destructive behavior. I appreciate the hard work you do to bring us one of the best produced crime channels on UA-cam. I've watched them all except for the child victims because the horror of realizing there's people among us who actually can commit atrocities on the truly innocent is more than I can take. I love that you always have the resources listed for people who are being abused at the end of every video. My favorite video of yours is the one where you interview a young man's father. It's the case out of Arizona where the young guy sat in a police interview room for hours with a bullet in his head. That one stirred my anger that those cops didn't care about his obvious injuries.
@FC-hj9ub You're absolutely right. It may just be that the internet is shining a light on this behavior now and calling it out. Back in the day, people didn't talk about mental illness either except to denounce it as a moral failing and turn their backs. It seems the younger generations aren't tolerant of repeated bad behavior without effort to make oneself better and that's actually the healthy thing to do.
The case you remember was Ryan, heartbreaking on many levels. Ryan died young due to extreme seizures his injury caused. His father was devoted to him and fought to get justice, for the way his son was treated.
This is another case that demonstrates why you should never take out $1.5 million in life insurance policies! My husband and I have policies that are essentially enough to cover burial costs and provide a slight buffer to the one left behind. We don't need more than that. In this case, I suspect that Nancy manipulated Dan into taking out such a large sum. He was described here as an optimist: he probably never suspected that she had an ulterior motive...
Since she worked in Life Insurance I can easily believe she could take them out in his name with no problems "just sign here honey".... And also, their finances were awful (because of her) but she made sure to ALWAYS pay the premiums every month, which were quite a bit.
Take it back! No one knows what the future holds. My parents thought against getting a large sum policy also. They didn't account for anyone getting sick and only one dying in old age. Now there is no money and the other one needs care. According to the govt, were S.O.L.
We're saving our money and being cremated. Funerals are money grubbing scams. Plus, people staring at my corpse and saying how good I look when I'm deceased is ridiculous to me.
@AVSgirl1985 Not just that, she was also the one who managed the finances of the household and had already been lying about the numbers. She even contradicted the insurance expert's testimony on the nature of the policy, trying to deceive the court. Almost certainly she was misleading her husband
Watching her speak, she doesn't sound truthful. It's a sad and sorrowful thing for that man to have been murdered this way, or any way. You did a great job with this episode. You really find scraps of information and mend it together.
I clicked so fast! Very pleased that you're covering this case. Nancy Brophy is a heartless, narcissistic piece of work and the prosecution ran rings around her.
There were a few important errors (the most glaring to me is that Dan wasn't shot in the back of the head - he was shot in the back, and his students began CPR without knowing he'd been shot) - but I always love the channel's tone and approach to cases. Thanks for visiting this one!
I would have loved to be able to take culinary classes from Daniel Brophy. He sounds like an incredible teacher and it's a shame that so many people will never benefit from his caring knowledge.
Friends and students of Daniel had more emotion over his demise than Nancy herself, who pathetically attempts portrays herself as the "grieving widow". Like her novels, no one is buying it. *pun intended* It infuriates me more to see her laughing in trial after convicted of murdering Daniel. My heart goes out to those who knew, loved, and cherished Daniel. I'll bet he was an awesome and fun culinary teacher!
Not just laughing, but she was enraged at his students for being emotional and thus taking attention off of her. She was especially vicious to someone she refused to mention by name, only referring to her as "that little Spanish girl who cries on cue". She is the worst person.
It's refreshing to see some solid police work for a change. Kudos to the Portland police, if this garbage person had gotten away with it, she'd have blown through the money and moved on to her next victim. Imagine believing that because you are a failure as a writer and don't have the lifestyle that you want that your partner, who has encouraged you and provided for you, must die. Wow.
If cops were to look at my internet search history right now they would probably think I was a murderer. During her testimony she is talking about being at a park and "pulling it together". Did no one ask what that meant?
You are not alone lol. Back in the day, I used to have a whole library section on serial killers and books by John Douglas and the like. While the internet makes such information easier to access, so is the access to follow such searches 😉 but I think we’re safe😊. Nothing wrong in questioning the mysteries of the human psyche.
You neglected to mention that they were having financial trouble due to the fact that Nancy spent money like it was going out of style and didn't work much due to her trying to be a romance novelist. Dan was working two jobs while she wasnt working at all.
I love how one of the arguments of her defense is because she "calls herself a democrat" and is "anti-gun" that therefore she didn't commit the murder because she would never touch a gun. Riiiighht.... We're supposed to believe that she would use a slingshot instead to murder her husband? Your opposition to guns pretty much goes out the window the moment you decide that murder is an option. Also, she's "anti-gun" but has no problem buying one online for "research purposes for her book".
no, it's not, that is Republican myth that Democrats don't have guns. There are extreme people who get elected on both sides, one wants no guns and one wants everyone to have guns with no limits. The rest of us are in the middle@@MickMcGarnackle
Every time i see a thumbnail for this channel my brain default to thinking it's a MST3K clip, lol. I've watched that show so much throughout my youth it's like muscle memory when seeing an audience in silhouette like that.
This whole case & video is a complete contradiction. On one hand, she's claimed to be so scheming & devious as to buy a gun kit & a replacement slide & barrel, on the other hand, she's stupid enough to drive her own car to kill him. Make it make sense.
She was also stupid enough to take the stand and testify. Watching this, I was wondering why her lawyers let her testify: she certainly didn't do herself any favors and highlighted just how ridiculous her explanations were. She probably would have been better off keeping her mouth shut and letting her lawyers do the talking!
Narcissists make stupid mistakes all the time, because they think they're way too smart to make them. And then they deny, deny, deny when faced with the irrefutable evidence, coming up with explanations that make sense to them, and only them.
I am always amazed by how many people leave evidence on their computers of incriminating Google searches. If I were going to commit a crime for which I needed to do internet research I would buy a dedicated device and do my searches on a public Wi-Fi and throw the device away before I committed the crime. I also wouldn't post this comment here, but I'm not planning to commit any crimes.
Just when I needed you. Stay blessed This might not be your best year, you will be a producer one day. Executive producer, but for now I hope your as blessed as I think. I’ve been watching you since I lost my family “grandma, mother, baby sister’cancer’. I’ve moved states, friends, started a new career but you will forever be apart of me, going to sleep waking up I thank you, you’ve helped in ways you don’t know
every video I’ve watched on this case- a student of his always comments what a terrific man his was. Rip Dan💔 he clearly left a great impact on all of his students and is certainly a man to admire for his great amount of philanthropy.
Presumably Defense Lawyer: “Before you read that article [about ghost guns], did you know that guns could come in kits?” Me, stoned at 3am, foam-rolling my hammies: “Objection! Leading.”
People who over explain things are definitely lying! When I used to drink (40 years sober now) I did this all the time! I could spin quite the tale, quickly and easily!! My parents seemed to believed me, but mostly they just were resigned to dealing with it in the simplest way possible. This woman is trying to rewrite history and she’s failing miserably! All of her ohhh and umms are just what we do when we’re trying to think of what to say- and we’re hoping what we do say sounds convincing. She doesn’t
Only Jiles can make me watch click a video so early in the morning . I woke up an hour early to get water and here I am watching some wanna be Gangster in literature , murdering a genuinely caring , solid , all around great person ... Rest In Peace Dan . Thank you Jiles
I worked at an adult novelty store on Burnside St, downtown Portland around the corner of the Culinary Institute and the Starbucks she used to go to was across the street two blocks. Two blocks to the West of my shop was where they arrested Todd Alan Reed, the Forest Park Killer, who killed three gals I had associations with. This woman reminds me of a hamster for some reason.
While agree with your assessment of her testimony, as someone whose taken a creative writing course, I’d add that she also sounds like she’s trying to sell the idea of herself as a writer, talking how she imagines a prolific novelist would talk. The bit about her mentioning the policewoman who hugged her and her weight sounds like the kind of thing that would come up in a character’s inner monologue as they’re reflecting back on this event, or as they encounter that policewoman again and are taken aback to realise she’s nothing like what they remember. In writing, this kind of discrepancy is a great way to show a character going into shock or dissociating rather than just telling the reader “I went into shock and wasn’t taking in anything else that was happening around me”. As part of her testimony, delivered as is it sounds like an unrehearsed script - it’s inclusion seems to be trying to demonstrate her shock and disorientation (or else laying groundwork for her memory defence), but she neither imbues it with the necessary emotion (adding it as a confused aside - “why did I think that? Why am I bringing it up now! You don’t need to hear about that”) nor reflects on it as she is sure to have done given how much time has passed (“I was in such shock when I heard the news - a policewoman hugged me, and I could not tell you what she looked like. I saw her an hour later and I didn’t recognise her”).
I have often wondered if she actually got her hands on that life insurance $$. Is that why there was a civil suit? Going down the rabbit hole to find out...
I’m also deeply intrigued by human behavior & assume that has a lot to do with my interest in criminology. Your insight is more than welcomed! If anyone consumes more information & interrogation footage it’s you. It doesn’t go unlooked. Thank you!
I live in Portland and had never heard of her until she was charged with murder. I was surprised then that she was found guilty. However, after hearing all these coincidences and her unbelievable explanations, I’m convinced she was guilty. She’s a terrible liar. Thanks Jiles 😊
If that woman's lips were moving she was telling a lie! I've known a few people that could (and would) look you straight in the eyes and lie, lie and lie about doing so. It has got to be exhausting to constantly tell lies. How are you able to remember what you said and who you said it to? Thanks for another GREAT video, Jiles.
I've read that this woman worked as an insurance agent and she herself took multiple polices in Daniel's name. Also, she made them go basically broke and Daniel had no clue she had spent their entire retirement savings.
She really thought she was more clever than the police and lawyers! Blabbing on and on, making herself look more guilty by the minute! Arrogant monster!
The scary thing is if she didn’t write the blog, and bought the barrel and slide with cash from a store that didn’t have cameras and didn’t look it up on her computer, she would have gotten away with it
@margaretr5701 Here's the thing. Cops already had a flimsy case to start with. Even with the slide and barrel she had a valid reason to buy them. The cops had to get everything all to get her, her internet history which they had to use hacking software to get to, and she had to bomb her testimony. The cops went to trial with a thread. Her narsicism sealed it for her.
No, her essay didn't have much to do do with her being charged and nothing to do with her conviction. It was not admissable evidence. She came under suspicion the day of the murder for being seen driving near the scene at the time of the crime. There was a large amount of evidence against her.
the institute is closed now. its all so depressing. in her testimony, she discussed her favourite restaurant being Nicolas- a Lebanese restaurant. Its my family’s favourite restaurant too(Srsly, if you’re in location GO THERE. And fight your instincts, and save room first dessert because the rice pudding is UNREAL) and moving to Vernonia of all places… it is surreal
I was on the fence with this and her actually killing her husband more than halfway through this video but it was the way she kept talking about her dead husband without any emotion that tipped it for me. If the man I loved was killed and I was on trial for a murder I didn't commit, I would have a range of emotions from grief to rage talking about him and being accused of killing the person I loved the most. She just went through telling the story and recounting random things with little to no emotion. She said I was driving around while my husband was killed...that would have broken my heart knowing I was doing something so mundane and useless at the moment my husband died, yet she just talked like it had no affect on her whatsoever.
32:21 .. I usually agree with you 110% Jiles.. this point is one I have to offer a caveat to tho.. people who lie are notoriously over-explaining, we see it frequently in interrogation videos.. however.. As someone who has major PTSD from a lifetime of abuses, childhood to my 40s… I am EXTRA verbose, 1) because I grew up without a tv and was a serious bookworm, meaning that I will think differently and therefore speak/write differently in communication.. instinctively illustrative I guess.. 2). When you have someone who is making you MISERABLE, and they start with questions.. you can get into the habit of OVER explaining things in an attempt to get ahead of the abuser.. it’s verbal eggshell walking.. if I know what pisses you off, then I’ll be extra quick to mollify the building rage by telling you something has been done already, dealt with, removed, etc.. because if it goes on long enough for the abuser to ponder and then pressure cook into a rage, I’m already screwed.. and frequently, that pressure can build in the span of 2 sentences.. it’s scary AF.. I’m forever haunted by the time the exhusband walked out the door smiling, and in the time it took to clear the threshold, spin around and get back through the door, the posture had changed, the face was red and glowering and started RAGING by the next footfall.. 💥 out of nowhere.. everything is good.. everything is bad bad bad and it’s going to be a long long miserable night.. .. literally seconds.. I was wayyyy better about getting ahead of him after that.. That was many many years ago now.. but it’s still crystal in my mind.. Today, things are better than just okay and I’ve been doing peer counseling for years already.. I’m MUCH better than I ever was.. but.. Some things become SO ingrained, it’s your default behavior.. one of mine, is being extra explanatory and making SURE I’m CLEARLY communicating what I MEAN, so there’s no space for an irrational untreated abuser to “fill in the blanks” with their own paranoid garbage and fly off the handle.. Because, I didn’t say one particular thing or used a word that was taken out of context.. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Nancy is a narcissist beeotch.. is convinced she’s the smartest and most charming person in the room,(&she’s not at all) and it shows.. because she is clearly being overly explanatory to feather her own story out as best as possible.. and I’m sure a couple people will fall for it.. but.. anyone who has had any real experience with the TYPE, can spot the BS right away.. she’s a monster in many ways.. poor Dan..
Your experience and the way you describe it are so relatable - I'm actually stunned. I can therefore wish you only the best, knowing exactly what you've been through.
After watching true crime for years, I'm convinced that if I'm ever interviewed by the police, I'm going down for it. Even if I was in the police station talking to the chief of police during the incident, I'm getting arrested; because, my entire life I feel the need to explain every single thing that happened down to the most minute detail!😂 I am a chronic over-sharer!😂
@@margaretr5701 😂😂😂 I don't know if there is hope for me! Luckily, anyone who has ever met me will tell them "Oh no, she's like that ALLLLL the time!"😂
I got a jury summons around that time that year. I wonder if i had been available if i would have been on that jury? If i had i wouldn't have been convinced by her testimony either.
I remember this because I was so mad! She had my dream life, a beautiful house in Portland but with a big yard, trees etc, money, a nice car and a good man who loves you and she ruins it for more money!!?? Urgh!!!! Also at the time supposedly she had a huge spending problem and was amassing a lot of debt on her credit cards. Some people are just never satisfied and even if she got away with it and got the money she would've blown through it in a year or two and then what, new husband new life insurance new murder? Yes, she's a monster.
You really should, it's my favorite case. Please check out her cross examination on youtube, she's a narcissist and talks herself into a conviction. She rambles, cackles, and lies, but eventually crumbled on the stand and it is glorious to see!
Her husband, good man that he was, indulged her, supporting her money draining, publications. She repaid him by taking his life. What a conceited, cruel woman. I hope she's haunted by the life she chose in prison.
That Daniel could stand there in that OCI ad (49:09), with such a stern and serious look on his face, while holding a rooster, well that says a lot about the man.
To be fair, she wrote about how to murder your husband, not about how to escape the consequences of murdering your husband
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😂 Yeah, those pesky consequences will bite ya in the ass every time.
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Sir.... 🤣
Lol 😂
“The thing I liked about him most was that he loved me” That’s a true malignant narcissist right there
That‘s what I thought of her, too. Then there is the feeling of being entitled to have a better life. And the feeling of grandiosity - oh, nobody will ever think of me as the murderer with all the evidence. And lack of empathy - I did not see a single tear or emotion when talking about the tragic loss of her loved one.
Absolutely! I totally thought the same thing
Your comment sound simular to mine
Nah, that's a big stretch. She didn't say it in a way that matches your accusation. She was pretending to be amazed that such a wonderful man loved her, nothing deeper.
Even True Crime fans WAY overestimate how many killers have Narcissistic personality disorder, zero conscience and empathy psychopath, etc.
Would you believe that someone can make YOU seem "narcissictic" by recording everything you say for one day and selecting sentences to fit that narrative?
@@goblin-nightAbout 6% of the general population has NPD, it’s not uncommon at all, and it’s much higher amongst people who go on to commit crimes like this.
A man who cooks, owns his home, and wants to spend his free time tending to his vegetable garden.... dang! I wish I had met him first.
Right? Poor man left his first wife for this lipless, cackling Ben Franklin cosplayer, and this is how she repays his loyalty.
Lol
@@WobblesandBeanthat description is hilarious! 😂
He was made to sound like the nicest guy out.. totally didn't deserve this horrid wench's selfish plans
He was a nice man. Seen him at the Farmers' market before.
Listening to her in court was torture. Like, ma'am answer the damn question. I don't need all them stories.
Exactly she's going off track all the time
The fact she not only killed him, but left him where his poor students would find him dead is particularly heinous.
IIRC I think it was on Dreading’s video about this case where they said since he passed at work she’d be eligible to collect on his workers’ compensation. Whether it was a deliberate choice or just a convenient coincidence for Nancy is unclear to me. Of course it’s awful to traumatize the students like that. RIP Dan Brophy.
@LadyVanHelsing713 I didn't know that but glad she got life!! Evil woman!!
@LadyVanHelsing713 has dreading gotten in depth again? When they came on the scene, omg it was incredible. I would actually tell people about the channel. Then suddenly it became hours of interrogation footage/body cam. I like interrogation and body cam too, but for a channel to go from super well researched and detailed episodes, to hours of little information and just interrogation/body cam... my bubble burst and I left them. What they started with was one of the best, most incredible channels I had ever seen. I hope if they haven't yet, they will go back to that. I think about it so much.
@@meghanbarton5532 they still do a lot of interrogation footage and body cam from what I’ve seen but I guess it depends on the case. Like their video on Richard Merritt was okay but their current series on Chris Watts is very footage heavy.
@@LadyVanHelsing713 ah ok. Thank you. Again. I like footage stuff, just hard when you remember how they were when they started.
I've watched a lot of videos on this woman, and this is by far the most detailed and thoughtful; you really brought Dan alive and showed what an incredibly arrogant, stupid and selfish woman his wife is.
Thanks so much!
@@thisisMONSTERS You are, indeed, awesome.
Yes-as usual! I ALWAYS learn more from Jiles than anyone else!! ❤
What keeps drawing me back to this UA-cam channel and why Giles is my favorite in the true crime genre is just this. So many others focus on the killers, but Giles gives life to the victims. And does such in-depth research into who they were as people aside from the generic "they lit up a room" you hear in other shows
dreading does a great job at this too@@flaming_bentley
I just realized that her testimony sounds like another monster, Ezra McCandless. So much unnecessary detail and so condescending.
anthony todt too. Sweet as honey while being examined, acidic as fuck when being cross examined
Taking the stand is really not the best idea people have and definitely all three were asked not too. Narcissists will be adamant because they assume they’ll talk themselves out of everything.
My coworker used to work with him at the institute. Has nothing but good things to say about the guy. Kindest, most laid-back, generous guy...
3:00 You didn't mention that he was already married at this time. When she heard he had a wife, she said "I can fix that." Charming. 🙄
Wow, I haven’t heard about that. Didn’t know he was married when they met.
@@gingersmith2888yes, Dan's son, Nathaniel Stillwater, states during his incredible victim impact statement that he learned during the past few years that Nancy's reaction to finding out Dan was still married to Nathaniel's mother was "I can fix that."
@@AI-dp3rd that’s awful! I will have to listen to Nathaniel’s statement again, I missed that. It’s kind of interesting that Nancy’s name wasn’t on the mortgage or deed to the house.
She is insufferable to listen to. The way she speaks is so calculated and “oh woe is me I’m just a grieving elderly widow, can’t you hear it in my voice?” I cannot stand her-I’m so glad she was so careless and got caught so quickly.
She's a good example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Her writing is beyond terrible, but she isn't smart enough to recognise her own lack of talent.
When there is a case that’s been covered over and over, I don’t run to watch..unless This is Monsters covers it! Jiles is so thorough, details unmatched.
Thanks so much!
Agreed. I knew almost all the cases covered before I watched, but I always learn something new. 👍🏻
Same here. And this voice! ❤
As a mushroom hunter, I can tell you her story about him wanting to carry a gun while hunting is insane. You don't want to carry any extra weight, because you are anticipating carrying all the mushroom you possibly can.
Yes, another ridiculous lie from this obnoxious woman.
Mushroom foragers don't rate high on the list of violent criminals.
She's so full of herself, she can't see how stupid she sounds.
I'm a big fan of mushroom hunting but the cops keep confiscating my haul.
U sound stupid
As a mushroom hunter, we always carry while hunting. We have been followed to our patch before and it’s not safe to wander around the woods with no protection.
I wonder if Nancy will try to publish another novel “The Wrong Defence” about a shirtless navy seal who is on trial for murder he didn’t commit….
😂 it would be as popular as all her other self published nonsense.
@@Nanyang8055it’s gonna sell three or four copies. Freebies that she will sign and give out to her favorite cellmates.
For the record 1) from other podcasts I've learned that their financial issues were her fault. 2) just cuz someone is expressing grief that doesn't mean they can't be a murderer. It's very possible she regretted what she did or that the stress of the situation was what made her cry in front of her niece.
Or she cried bc she was upset she knew there would be a trial... Yeah, people can draw on emotions to fake other emotions. That's how acting works. Lol!
True. Some people can grieve the person they killed due to regretting it and I think that fact is overlooked. A person may also cry or react to the PTSD they just inflicted upon themselves due to their own actions.. Of course, that's less common than them grieving for theme for being punished for it. Interesting perspective.
Yeah, regret for her own consequences I think.
Her niece lied as much as she did , I didn’t believe anything any of her family said . The Uncle that died was like “Mr. Rogers” and a big part of the family. but when asked when he died she wasn’t sure . Yeah ok .
I’ve watched a lot of videos about this murder and Nancy’s ridiculousness but thank you for really humanizing Chef Brophy. He sounds like he was such a treasure to his friends & family and students and community. Nancy Brophy really is a monster.
She thought she was more intelligent than the police etc
I was hoping you'd cover Chef Brophy. Nancy absolutely *_infuriates_* me, and I keep coming back to this case in order to watch her talk her own way into her conviction.
dreading (crime & psychology) channel did a good video on Nancy Brophy last year, if you're interested. Lots of other great content on that channel, too.
*_-Infuriates-_*
*I feel like only **-true-** fans are up at **_3_** am watching. Love it.*
@@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. Yup, seen that one. I'm a little annoyed Dreading ended his video before the best parts of Nancy's cross examination, though. I like your username, by the way.
@@StevenEvens7125 it 8.06pm Monday here 😊
I am so glad you are covering this case. Dan seemed like such an amazing man and to be murdered by that harpy because she wanted to pretend to be a famous writer is the most vile and wicked thing I've ever heard (I've heard of much worse things, especially from cases you've covered on this channel but my statement still stands). This case makes my blood boil and I am so glad that hag will never see the light of day outside of a prison.
What's a harpy?
It's a creature from Greek mythology. Described as a rapacious monster that had a woman's head and body and a bird's wings and claws. It's also a word to describe an unpleasant woman which definitely fits Nancy quite well.
And I bet that heffa isn't even ashamed of herself or remorseful at all SMH 😞 he really seemed like a man of many women's dreams ❤
Surely you could express your thoughts without the misogynistic language...
@@KitsuneRokakuQueen of the harpies! No I'm not!
He seemed like such a nice, friendly person who everyone loved and she murdered him for no reason. What a horrible witch.
Reason to her, was money.
I hope she regrets every minute of the life she chose, instead of the peaceful, indulged life she had, with an interesting and loving man. I hope, in his last minutes, he didn't know it was his wife that took his life away.
When you express your views & analysis, I nearly always agree with you. They are complete & utter MONSTERS!
Thanks for watching!
" I'm diabetic. My eyesight is bad. I have hearing loss. Now I have memory loss." It didn't stop her from killing her husband. These health excuses are just that... Completely ridiculous...
I had to pause the video because I cringed so hard when she said this! That crooked smile before she said 'old age isnt for sissy's!' Cringe!
Just like how Cosby went blind (until he got out of prison) and Weinstein was a helpless old man in court... funny how that happens.
Chef Brophy sounds like such a kind, gentle man. What a Heartbreaking Loss to his Family, Friends, and Students. Rest In Peace 🥀🥀🥀🥀🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️💔💔💔💔
Seriously…seemed to be such an outstanding person.
I went to OCI. This video is how I learned about this tragedy. I really liked him, I'll remember him walking through the T1 classroom singing Credence Clearwater Revival. I'm simply blown away.
The irony that she literally had the perfect man and it was HER ACTIONS that ruined their finances and her solution… to kill him. I mean wtf?
Goodness knows what he saw in her and she repaid him by shooting him from the front. Which has to be the coldest way for a partner to kill another partner.
Even worse than that: She paralyzed him with a shot to the back and then killed him with a shot to the heart while he was lying face-up on the ground. I hate that he cheated on/left his first wife (and his son Nathan's mom) for this hell-witch, but Dan Brophy did not deserve to die like that. I feel so awful for his parents as well as his son.
Exactly!! We all love $$, 1.5 million would be awesome. But not at the cost of losing a great partner. I tell my fiance all the time that I won the perfect man lottery. Now we just have to win that powerball together, then it will be super perfect. But he is worth more than a million dollars to me. It sounds like Daniel was too.
Crazy narcissists have a hard time ever admitting responsibility for their own actions
Really good hearted individuals are so naive to their toxic partners all the time. I gave this abusive man 4 years of my time. My now BF gave this really evil woman years of his time. My cousin has been with a very immature, inconsiderate, jerk, mommy's boy & has been engaged for 6 years.... it's so sad watching especially since I've been through it.
@@AI-dp3rdshe looks like an old woman... like she could be Dan brophys mother or something...
It's gross
These stories never make me cry but hearing about what type of person Dan was, that got me
Man, thanks to the internet, I've seen so many elderly people my age acting horribly. I don't remember elderly people acting the fool like they do today. I used to be a Karen and throw fits because of a mental illness misdiagnosis. Seven years ago, I was diagnosed as bipolar 2 and my world has completely changed because of therapy, medication changes, and hours upon hours of work.. Because of my poor behavior, I alienated my family and most of my friends. I feel tremendous guilt that will never go away, or should. I'm grateful that I finally found peace of mind and treat everyone with respect now. The constant turmoil in my mind is gone, as is the crippling anxiety and wrong, self-destructive behavior.
I appreciate the hard work you do to bring us one of the best produced crime channels on UA-cam. I've watched them all except for the child victims because the horror of realizing there's people among us who actually can commit atrocities on the truly innocent is more than I can take. I love that you always have the resources listed for people who are being abused at the end of every video. My favorite video of yours is the one where you interview a young man's father. It's the case out of Arizona where the young guy sat in a police interview room for hours with a bullet in his head. That one stirred my anger that those cops didn't care about his obvious injuries.
Because they didnt have youtube back then. People have always been cruel, just look at history
@FC-hj9ub You're absolutely right. It may just be that the internet is shining a light on this behavior now and calling it out. Back in the day, people didn't talk about mental illness either except to denounce it as a moral failing and turn their backs. It seems the younger generations aren't tolerant of repeated bad behavior without effort to make oneself better and that's actually the healthy thing to do.
The case you remember was Ryan, heartbreaking on many levels. Ryan died young due to extreme seizures his injury caused. His father was devoted to him and fought to get justice, for the way his son was treated.
@@margaretr5701 Thank you.
Just wanted to say that it's awesome that you got help and even though you feel regret, that just means you're a better person now.
This is another case that demonstrates why you should never take out $1.5 million in life insurance policies! My husband and I have policies that are essentially enough to cover burial costs and provide a slight buffer to the one left behind. We don't need more than that.
In this case, I suspect that Nancy manipulated Dan into taking out such a large sum. He was described here as an optimist: he probably never suspected that she had an ulterior motive...
Lol when I was a teenager I found out my dad had a $1mil life insurance policy and I said, "Hoooo, you better watch yourself!" 😂
Since she worked in Life Insurance I can easily believe she could take them out in his name with no problems "just sign here honey"....
And also, their finances were awful (because of her) but she made sure to ALWAYS pay the premiums every month, which were quite a bit.
Take it back! No one knows what the future holds. My parents thought against getting a large sum policy also. They didn't account for anyone getting sick and only one dying in old age. Now there is no money and the other one needs care. According to the govt, were S.O.L.
We're saving our money and being cremated. Funerals are money grubbing scams. Plus, people staring at my corpse and saying how good I look when I'm deceased is ridiculous to me.
@AVSgirl1985 Not just that, she was also the one who managed the finances of the household and had already been lying about the numbers. She even contradicted the insurance expert's testimony on the nature of the policy, trying to deceive the court. Almost certainly she was misleading her husband
Watching her speak, she doesn't sound truthful. It's a sad and sorrowful thing for that man to have been murdered this way, or any way. You did a great job with this episode. You really find scraps of information and mend it together.
I clicked so fast! Very pleased that you're covering this case. Nancy Brophy is a heartless, narcissistic piece of work and the prosecution ran rings around her.
There were a few important errors (the most glaring to me is that Dan wasn't shot in the back of the head - he was shot in the back, and his students began CPR without knowing he'd been shot) - but I always love the channel's tone and approach to cases. Thanks for visiting this one!
That was sad seeing how much he meant to his students.
She thought that she was a great writer and orator. That's why she took the stand in her own case.
Ms. Brophy, I'd like you to meet my friends Dunning and Kruger. They're hoping to get to know you a little better..
She's a narcissist
She had the right to remain silent. She should have exercised it.
He sounds like he was such a lovely person.
I would have loved to be able to take culinary classes from Daniel Brophy. He sounds like an incredible teacher and it's a shame that so many people will never benefit from his caring knowledge.
He was amazing. I had him as a sub for a week in 07. I’ve never met another person like him.
This woman, ugh. Terrible writer, worse human being. Dan is and always will be a legend in the Portland area.
Friends and students of Daniel had more emotion over his demise than Nancy herself, who pathetically attempts portrays herself as the "grieving widow". Like her novels, no one is buying it. *pun intended*
It infuriates me more to see her laughing in trial after convicted of murdering Daniel.
My heart goes out to those who knew, loved, and cherished Daniel. I'll bet he was an awesome and fun culinary teacher!
Not just laughing, but she was enraged at his students for being emotional and thus taking attention off of her. She was especially vicious to someone she refused to mention by name, only referring to her as "that little Spanish girl who cries on cue". She is the worst person.
great pun, btw
This teacher was a bright light that got snuffed out by a succubus
It's refreshing to see some solid police work for a change. Kudos to the Portland police, if this garbage person had gotten away with it, she'd have blown through the money and moved on to her next victim. Imagine believing that because you are a failure as a writer and don't have the lifestyle that you want that your partner, who has encouraged you and provided for you, must die. Wow.
If cops were to look at my internet search history right now they would probably think I was a murderer. During her testimony she is talking about being at a park and "pulling it together". Did no one ask what that meant?
You are not alone lol. Back in the day, I used to have a whole library section on serial killers and books by John Douglas and the like. While the internet makes such information easier to access, so is the access to follow such searches 😉 but I think we’re safe😊. Nothing wrong in questioning the mysteries of the human psyche.
Well, as long as no one in your immediate family gets bumped off, you should be okay!😅
@@expatannie6958😂😂😂☝️☝️
Same 😂
Yes pulling what together & why
You neglected to mention that they were having financial trouble due to the fact that Nancy spent money like it was going out of style and didn't work much due to her trying to be a romance novelist. Dan was working two jobs while she wasnt working at all.
I love how one of the arguments of her defense is because she "calls herself a democrat" and is "anti-gun" that therefore she didn't commit the murder because she would never touch a gun. Riiiighht.... We're supposed to believe that she would use a slingshot instead to murder her husband? Your opposition to guns pretty much goes out the window the moment you decide that murder is an option.
Also, she's "anti-gun" but has no problem buying one online for "research purposes for her book".
Also admitting she was only anti-gun until she starting feeling unsafe herself, then she reconsidered her opinion.
She is one giant contradiction !!
@@RiettoThat's actually pretty standard for Democrats
no, it's not, that is Republican myth that Democrats don't have guns. There are extreme people who get elected on both sides, one wants no guns and one wants everyone to have guns with no limits. The rest of us are in the middle@@MickMcGarnackle
I just watched this same story on 3 other channels today.
Prosecutor *CRUSHED* her bald faced lies.
Every time i see a thumbnail for this channel my brain default to thinking it's a MST3K clip, lol. I've watched that show so much throughout my youth it's like muscle memory when seeing an audience in silhouette like that.
Total sidenote, over explaining is also a trait of CPTSD and narcissistic abuse.
Exactly
Thanks for covering this. It happened in my city. The other horrid case was of the veterinarian who stalked and killed a rival.
Very well told account of this case. Perfect balance of info about the victim and the Monster. Thanks.
She's extremely confident in her lies... That's soooo delusional...
Nancy Brophy’s blog post sounds like a one-star review. Even her act’s got a one-star rating.
Her writing is so cringe. The excerpts I can find online are difficult to read.
@@WobblesandBean Uncle Roger would be so disappointed. Haiyaa.
Man Chef Brophy seemed like such a great and standup guy. His only crime being that he was maybe too trusting when it came to his Wife
You should be able to trust your spouse.
@@LoveAfterPookie That's what shocks me about so much true crime. It's often the person whom you trust - or should be able to - the most.
This whole case & video is a complete contradiction. On one hand, she's claimed to be so scheming & devious as to buy a gun kit & a replacement slide & barrel, on the other hand, she's stupid enough to drive her own car to kill him. Make it make sense.
She was also stupid enough to take the stand and testify. Watching this, I was wondering why her lawyers let her testify: she certainly didn't do herself any favors and highlighted just how ridiculous her explanations were. She probably would have been better off keeping her mouth shut and letting her lawyers do the talking!
Narcissists make stupid mistakes all the time, because they think they're way too smart to make them. And then they deny, deny, deny when faced with the irrefutable evidence, coming up with explanations that make sense to them, and only them.
I am always amazed by how many people leave evidence on their computers of incriminating Google searches. If I were going to commit a crime for which I needed to do internet research I would buy a dedicated device and do my searches on a public Wi-Fi and throw the device away before I committed the crime. I also wouldn't post this comment here, but I'm not planning to commit any crimes.
May be you have already committed a crime nut not caught yet .
Just when I needed you. Stay blessed This might not be your best year, you will be a producer one day. Executive producer, but for now I hope your as blessed as I think. I’ve been watching you since I lost my family “grandma, mother, baby sister’cancer’. I’ve moved states, friends, started a new career but you will forever be apart of me, going to sleep waking up I thank you, you’ve helped in ways you don’t know
You should ask this girl out, she seems quite peachy on you
@@danmaddox2849I’m pretty sure he’s married.
this man was THE ideal husband and she still wasn't satisfied. poor guy, he seems like he was a genuinely sweet man ):
She sure makes the prosecutors job easier. Just let her talk. And talk. And talk.
Exactly.
Lets say "Walking back and forth" one more time for the record.
And about five million "you knows".
every video I’ve watched on this case- a student of his always comments what a terrific man his was. Rip Dan💔 he clearly left a great impact on all of his students and is certainly a man to admire for his great amount of philanthropy.
Presumably Defense Lawyer: “Before you read that article [about ghost guns], did you know that guns could come in kits?”
Me, stoned at 3am, foam-rolling my hammies: “Objection! Leading.”
I can just picture it 😆! Funny af! 😂
People who over explain things are definitely lying! When I used to drink (40 years sober now) I did this all the time! I could spin quite the tale, quickly and easily!! My parents seemed to believed me, but mostly they just were resigned to dealing with it in the simplest way possible. This woman is trying to rewrite history and she’s failing miserably! All of her ohhh and umms are just what we do when we’re trying to think of what to say- and we’re hoping what we do say sounds convincing. She doesn’t
Good for you Jillian ❤
40 years is so admirable! I’m coming up on 4 myself, I hope to have the strength and willpower to make it to 40 too 😊
@@DeviIInADress I believe in you 🤍
She's just putting on an act and excreting crocodile tears in a pathetic attempt to make herself look like a grieving widow
Or they're neurodivergent
This woman actually thinks she’s so smart she can talk circles around lawyers ON CAMERA! Yikes.
Wow. Nancy sure got a glow up in the made for TV movie. Cybil Shepherd? 💀
I didn't know there was a movie! Do you remember the title?
Only Jiles can make me watch click a video so early in the morning . I woke up an hour early to get water and here I am watching some wanna be Gangster in literature , murdering a genuinely caring , solid , all around great person ... Rest In Peace Dan . Thank you Jiles
I worked at an adult novelty store on Burnside St, downtown Portland around the corner of the Culinary Institute and the Starbucks she used to go to was across the street two blocks. Two blocks to the West of my shop was where they arrested Todd Alan Reed, the Forest Park Killer, who killed three gals I had associations with. This woman reminds me of a hamster for some reason.
😂😂😂
While agree with your assessment of her testimony, as someone whose taken a creative writing course, I’d add that she also sounds like she’s trying to sell the idea of herself as a writer, talking how she imagines a prolific novelist would talk. The bit about her mentioning the policewoman who hugged her and her weight sounds like the kind of thing that would come up in a character’s inner monologue as they’re reflecting back on this event, or as they encounter that policewoman again and are taken aback to realise she’s nothing like what they remember.
In writing, this kind of discrepancy is a great way to show a character going into shock or dissociating rather than just telling the reader “I went into shock and wasn’t taking in anything else that was happening around me”. As part of her testimony, delivered as is it sounds like an unrehearsed script - it’s inclusion seems to be trying to demonstrate her shock and disorientation (or else laying groundwork for her memory defence), but she neither imbues it with the necessary emotion (adding it as a confused aside - “why did I think that? Why am I bringing it up now! You don’t need to hear about that”) nor reflects on it as she is sure to have done given how much time has passed (“I was in such shock when I heard the news - a policewoman hugged me, and I could not tell you what she looked like. I saw her an hour later and I didn’t recognise her”).
Its wild how you hear stories before you always tell it better. 🎉
Thanks so much!
I have often wondered if she actually got her hands on that life insurance $$. Is that why there was a civil suit? Going down the rabbit hole to find out...
I think generally if there is a murder the insurance money is held on to by the insurance company. Let us know what you find out please!
I’m also deeply intrigued by human behavior & assume that has a lot to do with my interest in criminology. Your insight is more than welcomed! If anyone consumes more information & interrogation footage it’s you. It doesn’t go unlooked. Thank you!
Her downfall was in thinking she was smart. She was conniving, but not smart.
I constantly recommend his channel to any true crime lovers. Please never stop. This is my favorite channel!
I live in Portland and had never heard of her until she was charged with murder. I was surprised then that she was found guilty. However, after hearing all these coincidences and her unbelievable explanations, I’m convinced she was guilty. She’s a terrible liar. Thanks Jiles 😊
Good morning, and Thank You for a Well Done, Informative video.
Thanks so much!
Those damn mushroom hunters are dangerous. "Yo son this is my block everything from the oak tree to the stream is west sideshroom territory."
😂 Makes you wonder what kind of shrooms they were hunting for! 🤔
Hope you all have a great day my fellow monsterers
Her saying her favorite thing about him was just how much he loved HER. Just screams Narcissist !!!
Nice timing. Just having my morning cuppa while watching
I cannot listen to that Women without wanting to pull my own hair out. Infuriating!
If that woman's lips were moving she was telling a lie!
I've known a few people that could (and would) look you straight in the eyes and lie, lie and lie about doing so.
It has got to be exhausting to constantly tell lies. How are you able to remember what you said and who you said it to?
Thanks for another GREAT video, Jiles.
I've read that this woman worked as an insurance agent and she herself took multiple polices in Daniel's name. Also, she made them go basically broke and Daniel had no clue she had spent their entire retirement savings.
I bet she wishes she could have settled down to a modest retirement with her husband now.
She lived well, her husband supporting her expensive, self publications of books.
Now she can live in painful regret - hopefully.
This case fascinated me. It was good to revisit it today.
She really thought she was more clever than the police and lawyers! Blabbing on and on, making herself look more guilty by the minute! Arrogant monster!
Good Morning ! Thanks for all your hard work, have a happy week everyone.
The scary thing is if she didn’t write the blog, and bought the barrel and slide with cash from a store that didn’t have cameras and didn’t look it up on her computer, she would have gotten away with it
I hope not. What about her car and her being at the scene of the crime, at the time of the murder.
@margaretr5701 Here's the thing. Cops already had a flimsy case to start with. Even with the slide and barrel she had a valid reason to buy them. The cops had to get everything all to get her, her internet history which they had to use hacking software to get to, and she had to bomb her testimony. The cops went to trial with a thread. Her narsicism sealed it for her.
No, her essay didn't have much to do do with her being charged and nothing to do with her conviction. It was not admissable evidence. She came under suspicion the day of the murder for being seen driving near the scene at the time of the crime. There was a large amount of evidence against her.
Thankyou for your consistent uploads, i loveyour voice!! Love from Australia 🌏🦘
Coincidence but my son is in a big silver bird heading to Oz at the moment.
the institute is closed now. its all so depressing. in her testimony, she discussed her favourite restaurant being Nicolas- a Lebanese restaurant. Its my family’s favourite restaurant too(Srsly, if you’re in location GO THERE. And fight your instincts, and save room first dessert because the rice pudding is UNREAL) and moving to Vernonia of all places… it is surreal
Psychopaths come in all shapes and sizes.
If anyone follows Old kev's cool chef's cooking channel.. he studied under Chef Brophy..He talks about it in one of his shorts .
Good Morning This Is Monsters Family, I hope everyone is safe❣️ Enjoy your sleep❣️
Ain't no sleep when this is on!😊❤
Oh, this is my bedtime routine. I sleep to these 😅
Thank you
@@rashidahlibra801 .....HOOOOOW?! LoL, Ive tried but his voice and the story he b telling have me wiiiiide awoke.
I was on the fence with this and her actually killing her husband more than halfway through this video but it was the way she kept talking about her dead husband without any emotion that tipped it for me. If the man I loved was killed and I was on trial for a murder I didn't commit, I would have a range of emotions from grief to rage talking about him and being accused of killing the person I loved the most. She just went through telling the story and recounting random things with little to no emotion. She said I was driving around while my husband was killed...that would have broken my heart knowing I was doing something so mundane and useless at the moment my husband died, yet she just talked like it had no affect on her whatsoever.
My ex built several guns from parts ordered online. He even built an AK. It’s scary to see how easy it is to do.
Her biography: The Wrong Wife!
Nancy problem was she couldn’t stop talking, she talked herself right into jail!
32:21 .. I usually agree with you 110% Jiles.. this point is one I have to offer a caveat to tho..
people who lie are notoriously over-explaining, we see it frequently in interrogation videos..
however..
As someone who has major PTSD from a lifetime of abuses, childhood to my 40s…
I am EXTRA verbose, 1) because I grew up without a tv and was a serious bookworm, meaning that I will think differently and therefore speak/write differently in communication.. instinctively illustrative I guess..
2). When you have someone who is making you MISERABLE, and they start with questions..
you can get into the habit of OVER explaining things in an attempt to get ahead of the abuser..
it’s verbal eggshell walking.. if I know what pisses you off, then I’ll be extra quick to mollify the building rage by telling you something has been done already, dealt with, removed, etc..
because if it goes on long enough for the abuser to ponder and then pressure cook into a rage, I’m already screwed..
and frequently, that pressure can build in the span of 2 sentences..
it’s scary AF..
I’m forever haunted by the time the exhusband walked out the door smiling, and in the time it took to clear the threshold, spin around and get back through the door, the posture had changed, the face was red and glowering and started RAGING by the next footfall..
💥 out of nowhere..
everything is good.. everything is bad bad bad and it’s going to be a long long miserable night..
.. literally seconds..
I was wayyyy better about getting ahead of him after that..
That was many many years ago now.. but it’s still crystal in my mind..
Today, things are better than just okay and I’ve been doing peer counseling for years already.. I’m MUCH better than I ever was..
but..
Some things become SO ingrained, it’s your default behavior..
one of mine, is being extra explanatory and making SURE I’m CLEARLY communicating what I MEAN, so there’s no space for an irrational untreated abuser to “fill in the blanks” with their own paranoid garbage and fly off the handle..
Because, I didn’t say one particular thing or used a word that was taken out of context.. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Nancy is a narcissist beeotch.. is convinced she’s the smartest and most charming person in the room,(&she’s not at all) and it shows..
because she is clearly being overly explanatory to feather her own story out as best as possible.. and I’m sure a couple people will fall for it.. but.. anyone who has had any real experience with the TYPE, can spot the BS right away.. she’s a monster in many ways..
poor Dan..
Your experience and the way you describe it are so relatable - I'm actually stunned. I can therefore wish you only the best, knowing exactly what you've been through.
After watching true crime for years, I'm convinced that if I'm ever interviewed by the police, I'm going down for it. Even if I was in the police station talking to the chief of police during the incident, I'm getting arrested; because, my entire life I feel the need to explain every single thing that happened down to the most minute detail!😂 I am a chronic over-sharer!😂
Same!
Note to self: Must work on brevity!
@@margaretr5701 😂😂😂 I don't know if there is hope for me! Luckily, anyone who has ever met me will tell them "Oh no, she's like that ALLLLL the time!"😂
I got a jury summons around that time that year. I wonder if i had been available if i would have been on that jury? If i had i wouldn't have been convinced by her testimony either.
I remember this because I was so mad! She had my dream life, a beautiful house in Portland but with a big yard, trees etc, money, a nice car and a good man who loves you and she ruins it for more money!!?? Urgh!!!!
Also at the time supposedly she had a huge spending problem and was amassing a lot of debt on her credit cards. Some people are just never satisfied and even if she got away with it and got the money she would've blown through it in a year or two and then what, new husband new life insurance new murder? Yes, she's a monster.
Thanks. I’ve intentionally not read anything about this case waiting for you to do it.
You really should, it's my favorite case. Please check out her cross examination on youtube, she's a narcissist and talks herself into a conviction. She rambles, cackles, and lies, but eventually crumbled on the stand and it is glorious to see!
The opposite to love is selfishness, in the end selfishness consumed her. She allowed it take over turning her into a monster.
And also envy. Her husband was successful while she was talentless
Her husband, good man that he was, indulged her, supporting her money draining, publications.
She repaid him by taking his life. What a conceited, cruel woman.
I hope she's haunted by the life she chose in prison.
hi jiles I'm a big fan of yours all the way from Kenya, I'm a huge investigation fan but monsters is my favorite podcast keep up the good work 😀😀😀
Thanks so much!
Wewe wacha maneno yako 😂
haiya ukweli na watchingi investigation channels and podcasts 24/7😁😁😁
That Daniel could stand there in that OCI ad (49:09), with such a stern and serious look on his face, while holding a rooster, well that says a lot about the man.
Great timing like always ❤🎉❤🎉❤
Always brightens my dayyyyy
His wife’s testimony was painful to watch!
Sounds like such a amazing person. Someone I’d want to be friends with. So sad.