'You should be in prison!' - Michelle Dewbury RAGES at INJUSTICE of Post Office scandal
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2024
- The panel wants 'criminal convictions' against those who knowingly ruined people's lives with bad technology and turned a blind eye.
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Paula Vennells should be in jail and face the same treatment the Horizon scandal victims suffered.
100 % correct.👍
She should face Justice fairly.something as the CEO of the post office she denied so many people off.
3x damages under habeas corpus act...
Yes I agree hiding behind that white collar she is a liar she has blood on her hands lock her up
so should vince cable ed davey and jo swinson lib dem fools
Paula Vennells should be in jail so should Ed Davey.
And her 2ic, the woman with a Dutch surname.
And Farage, he refused to raise it when he was MEP.
And Starmer.
She could hand back the £5m payment she received when she stopped being the Post Office Chief Executive.
People are being fooled over this CBE.
A more suitable penalty would be for her to hand back the bonuses she was paid despite heading up an organisation that was covering up a travesty of justice.
her list of crimes would put a normal person in jail for 10 /15 years
@showlett33 As awful as she is she's a scape goat for throw lawyers, politicians and big business figures above her
@@showlett33 more appropriate would be 22 to 25 years sewing mailbags in jail!!
Ex chief proved herself as Sir Tom’s daughter £ 5 millions not a bad amount.
And criminally investigated.
Vennells life has not been ruined, she is still wealthy.
Correction ‼️
… VERY wealthy.
@edwardduff4746 Except that she won't...
She did all this whilst being an ordained priest, she literally stands there each Sunday telling people to be humble decent and honest knowing that she maliciously prosecuted thousands of innocent people. Its not just criminal its evil
@@showlett33 Ha yes talk about religious hypocrites, she's the definition. She's twisted demented etc
Good pension I bet.
All those who allowed this injustice to happen and turned a blind eye to the events should now be brought to Justice, they must not be allowed to get away with their crime.
The cover up nearly worked hard lines PO
Including the secretaries typing up the meeting minutes etc? They know more than most - like the administrators, engineers, and train drivers for Hitler did, how far down the line do you go?
what I find shocking is that did they think from the several thousand postmasters a few thousand were thieves .. the pattern would have clearly stood out as something wrong
Yes, all the shareholders (owners of the business).
"How far down the line do you go"?
All the way to the gates in the case of the train drivers....@@pks15032
Sir Ed Davey was awarded his knighthood for ‘Political and Public service’, you couldn’t make it up!
Starmer is culpable as well.When he was DPP he should have realised that something was very wrong.
Too little too late. My heart breaks over the damage that has been done to these people and their families, the accusations of fraud ran through their communities like poison.
Nothing the establishment can do will ever put this right I have followed this story from the very beginning I’m just stunned at the sheer level of arrogance and lack of self awareness when it comes to the people who were supposedly in charge.
She should be in prison , nothing more and nothing less , 10 years at least .
It should be 15 years imprisonment.
@@errolbaptiste and what about the Sub PO masters who committed suicide, THE EVIL WOMAN DESERVES ALEAST 27 TO 35 YEARS IN PRISON.
Not only her, several of her underlings too
He’s right .. tangible but does not pay for all those lives bludgeoned on their door step
I agree, heavy prison sentences are in order.
She needs to be put under the same pressure as to what she put these people under
My last post should have read Davey. Nobody mentions Andrew Bridgen who has been campaigning for at least 10 years. He has brought it up in Parliament and to The Select Committee.But was ignored.
Handing back a CBE is like handing in your resignation after being sacked for gross misconduct.
You mean BEFORE she was sacked!
Giving the CBE back should be just the start of it for her , she needs prosecuting and financially held accountable
So true !
Take her PO pension.
we have to have the Rule of Law First,
Who were the people at Fujitsu changing the figures? And why were they allowed to do it? It wasn't a glitch in the system, it was people playing god with other people's money.
THE PEOPLE AT Fujitsu, the IT team were testing the software, and they discovered that they could login to any sub post office system and change the figures to make it look like there was less money in till, and possibly transfer the money somewhere else!!
It’s other peoples LIVES not money , 4 people committed suicide over this, and many others suffered permanent loss both financially and to their relationships .
If the postmasters didn’t embezzle the money what happened to it. Were IT staff at Fujitsu siphoning it off? We haven’t heard anything about where the money went. And anyway, when these postmasters were accused of taking the money where was the evidence in their bank accounts or purchases they made to prove they took it?
@andrewbogle3350 THE POST OFFICE TRIED TO COVER THEIR TRACKS BY NOT LOOKING DEEPER INTO IT. IN CASE THEY FOUND THE REAL ANSWERS!!
@@stoicsceptic8420 True very true.
Ed Davey is utterly shameless. He among others can't be allowed to just brush this off. People committed suicide over this. There has to be consequences to their disgraceful actions against fully innocent people.
Sir Beer hasn't got clean hands over this, either. Did he not preside over at least 50 of these prosecutions as DPP and in charge of the CPS? But then he didn't care too much about Jimmy Saville, did he?
He needs to go NOW
GBeebies only ever mentions Ed Davey, but never the succession of Tories who followed him in the Postal Affairs role.
After 14 years in power, it's remarkable how little the Tories have been responsible for.
@@DeezilOylhe thought " Sir Jimmy " was a sub-postmaster 😂😂😂
Now focus on who gave her the CBE in 2019 when the PO Scandal was known for years !!!
It’s the least she can do to hand back her CBE. She needs locking up for criminal activity! It’s a disgrace.
apparently she will, but the thing is it's only the Monarch who can take it away, so her handing it back is just a gesture
@samuelcraig she should've had it taken away from this horrible dangerous woman
@@lindark28 100%
Giving back the Gong means nothing.
She handed it back before it was taken away!
How can you compensate those driven to SUICIDE by this disgraceful scandal?
YOU CAN'T.
True, it’s too little too late.
Those who are still here, have struggled all this time after losing their livelihoods, they are never going to get that back.
I actually sat and cried ALOT when I watched the 4 part series on this atrocity.
What all those people were put through was horrendous.
It’s been 20+ years since this first happened why it’s never been resolved is beyond me.
Each and every person deserves every penny they have lost to be paid back, all costs of lawyers fees or any fees for that matter to be reimbursed, they also deserve compensation for the suffering they have went through. Anyone who went to prison to have their sentence overturned as they were sent there because of a lie.
I could go on and on.
I am sending prayers of love and healing to all involved, in Jesus name 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Vennells needs to go to prison....but she won't the establishment looks after it's own.
if ITV know who were at fault in POST OFFICE MANAGEMENT, then why haven't the culprits been arrested & charged by POLICE?
Stage 1 complete.
Stage 2 Police investigation and judgment in court.
Only if the public keeps their eyes on the issue. There'll be lots of diversionary news coming our way such as minor Markle stories and culture war stuff.
Stage 3 prison time.
Stage 4 removal of bonuses and PO pension.
We need a return to the Rule of Law and hold people in positions of responsibility, Personal Accountable
A quick reminder that Cameron, the new Foreign Secretary was PM
Nick Clegg was deputy PM
Vince Cable was the Trade and industry minister
Ed Davey, the leader of the Lib Dem’s was the Post Office minister
And Tony Blair instigated the whole horizon system in the first place .
The Fujitsu CEO in 2014 is married to a government minister. The Crown prosecuted the PO staff. Did the Queen not take an interest in her Post Office and court cases? Tories gave the boss her CBE. The Tories kept giving Fujitsu contracts. It's almost as if the people with titles are protecting eachother.
@@andrewoliver8930 surly that coulnt be the case would it
@@andrewoliver8930 the monarch does not or cannot get involved in court cases
Exactly @@darengardner6219
The point off an honour is to award, somebody who has dedicated a life’s work with exemplary service to the country. This CBE was awarded in full glare of this travesty of a miscarriage of justice. And is an insult to other people who has been awarded this honour. It should never have been awarded and that is why it should be returned.
Well said!
Quite right...the people who deserve the awards are the ones who have suffered in this travesty.....but If I was one of them I'd tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
We should stop rewarding incompetence and corruption.
So you know about software bugs in the routines then which can start only in a certain condition.Horizon software company was the sole maker of the program not her,read my comments above then think again,Microsoft has many upgrades to install their software more than Horizon software company,that lady is not resonsible for the software bugs,go back to the makers first then complain.
Nothing more to lose she shud b in prison
she should receive a prison sentence
MP's should be in prison.
Comfort, are you for real. There will be no comfort until these people are held to account. Some prosecuted, using their life savings, their homes, only to lose their case.
236 innocent sent to jail
All those who have been in the post office sarga should be prosecuted
A disgusting thing allowed to fester by the UK government for years at the cost of lives...
Compensation for them all and a real amount.
How do you compensate for a ruined life and having lost everything including your house, or having to live with the suicide or a family member innocently convicted of a crime?
@@edwardhammond5582 7 figure payouts. It can't undo the pain already but it can help pick up the pieces for those still living the nightmare. Cash should be their last worry to live on for this .
She should be in court facing charges
She needs to go to prison
Giving her CBE back does NOT show she is bothered about what happened. It shows only that public pressure has worked. If she truly cared she would return her £5m leaving 'bonus'.....or donate it to the people she supposedly cares about and feels sorry for....
She couldn't give a monkeys'about the "little people".They think we are all stupid,and deserve contempt,Their only problem is being exposed.
She isnt bothered otherwise it would not have happened.
Vince Cable was typical yesterday trying to say there's no point scapegoating and deflecting accountability from his privileged friends. All those on the Board under Vennels who played a part in the prosecutions, all the lawyers,all the investigators should be prosecuted to the same extent that they victimised the postmaster.
*Next investigation . . . . . .where’s the money?*
To hell with Vennells honour, she should loose her pension and in all probability should be in prison.
The longer this goes on the greater the retribution on those that allowed it.
Giving back her CBE is an empty gesture, if she had an ounce of decency she wouldn't have accepted the CBE in the first place! She's a bloody disgrace and likely guilty of criminality, she should face the same courts the organisation she led illegally dragged sub-postmasters through.
Has she handed back her bonus? why a big bonus for not doing her job properly? it stinks.
Isn't that the investigated investigating themselves because they're all involved
She should be in jail.
Your following the wrong leader in this thread,Read my comments above then think again,she was NOT a software writer and the rest of you in this thread should be ashamed of your selves picking on some who does not know software problems.
@lesjones471 Les, Paula didn't ask too many questions either. She deserves to eat plenty of Porridge like her other Executive Cronies.
Is there a petition for Ed davey to resign and kier starmer ?
@@johnkitching2248 ok leftie
@@johnkitching2248 only a leftie would have issue with spelling there gods name wrong
@@johnkitching2248 it's great I love to wind up lefties
Dave Cameron, Adam Crozier etc. Who is still giving government contracts to Fujitsu?
@@andrewoliver8930 the government they are all crooks and liars no matter what side is in power
Paula Vennells doesn’t care about what happened… she would not have given the CBE back had there not been a petition and if the documentary had not generated such exposure…
Even though she sent back the medal she is still a CBE. Only King Charles can rescind that honour.
The only question is which government minister were Fujitsu bribing?
Exactly! Lots of money in Fujitsu contracts, millions over how many years ? And to how many other organisations ? No one would have wanted to buy a defective product . How many knew and benefitted from ruining other people's lives ?
@@Kittykat-ne7dr exactly…..they’re all corrupt
Michelle dewbury is saying what vast majority think. Respect for her 💯
Just watching about the post office scandal, this vennells dangerous woman should be in prison, and she should've have her CBE AWAY FROM THIS VILE WOMEN her absolutely scandalous what these poor people had to go through
Others went to prison, had lives destroyed, ended their lives and we're supposed to believe giving back an award is a major sacrifice. What did certain people know, when did they know it and what did they do with what they knew? Some people are responsible for this travesty and they need to be held to account including facing prison or civil liability at least.
Exactly, as if sending back a trinkett is supposed to make everything OK.
She and others should go to prison but we all know they won't.
The "shame" will be deemed a big enough punishment, and after all, lessons will have been learnt.
Congratulated for giving her CBE back! You must be joking.
She should also give her multi million pound leaving pay to the 700 people who suffered at the hands of her lack of action . Bottom line, the person at the top are ultimately responsible, that's why, allegedly, they get obscene wages.
Should not the (now) ex- CBE PO chief executive return both her salary/s and pay-off?
It was a case of hand it back before it was taken back , her and many other should be in jail including that utter joke Davie 😮
Aninvestigation should name shame and prosecute, all involved , they have lied, and perverted the course of justice .
They are criminals.
HT F do you get 700 post office workers / franchisees all of a sudden become corrupt all at the same time and it Disney ring alarm bells and red flags all over the gaff - give back her little award and the keys to the cell she should be in .
They knew perfectly well this couldn't be the case. They knew there was a huge glitch in Horizon and that is why they had these geeks going into the system at night trying to fix the problem. It makes my blood boil - They knew these poor people were innocent and lied and lied to save their own sorry skins. B. Disgrace and totally unforgivable.
@@dizzykat9524 your right and the irony is that nobody will go to jail for this when there should be a queue of people who obviously knew from the start that this was all BS - heads should roll but won’t.
No she and others should be facing prison sentences
The lady (Vennels) should not be congratulated she should by put in court and given justice.
If she was sorry she wouldn’t have taken it in first place
100% agree with michelle
Bugs in systems are common. The inexcusable part is that Fujitsu did not support the system after go live and admit the issues and work through the bug fixes openly and honestly. This wouldn't have come from most devs or testers, they are often told to cover things up by top management.
If the system requirements weren't specified adequately and correctly then the fault lies with the Post Office and not so much with Fujitsu.
You would need to know what happened in the planning meetings to sort that out.
@PeteH0121 the IT team had discovered they could login to any sub post office computer system without the postmaster knowing about it and cause the till to show less money. Simply means the money could be transferred somewhere else !!
And yet the guy who created the computer system wants immunity from prosecution before making any statement. Clearly the actions of an innocent man.
@@PeteH0121The system was unstable which could cause it to fail to record transactions, record them multiple times, or record only one side if the transaction. There were design problems as well which may have been tracable to bad requirements, but Fugitsu would be at fault if the implementation of the design (the coding) was shoddy.
@@david672orfordHa ha. If it was unstable, how on earth did it get clearance to be released into the Live environment.
Incompetence at it's finest.
I've av=ctually heard that the relationship between Fujitsu and the Post Office needs close examination too.
It would be difficult to unravel this one even if there was ever any intention to do that - which I doubt there really is.
The money should be paid for by Fujitsu, not the British tax payers
The NI Education Authority have just awarded Fujitsu a £300 Million contract to replace the old Capita SIMs for all Schools across the NI.
"Many faced financial ruin, breakdown of relationships, and several deaths by suicide have been linked to what was described by British barrister Jason Beer as 'the worst miscarriage of justice in recent British legal history'"
Viva Filistin!!! Est. since by british balfour 1917.
There is no accountabillty,people need to go to prison.
A good start but they must all face criminal charges.
Quite right Michelle, dig down to the actual people who did the job, their QA, the overall department heads; their bosses. But that rule should apply to everyone inc MPs, journalists, bbc, etc.
Handing her CBE in is exactly as you, Michelle, put it, she knew the harm it was all causing and chose to ignore it. Exactly the same as so many other quislings in this country though many not even realise they are quislings - power of marketing and media eh
How can this happen that. Man said it Happens when there's Criminal Curruption every where from Top to Bottom ,And All involved aren't brought before the Courts and in prison .
There are people doing double figure jail sentences for a lot less than these slimy corrupt bastards did!
The honours system basically works thus...if you do ANYTHING against the British public you WILL be rewarded...
Sir Jimmy Savile, Sir Tony Blair, Lady Thatcher, Sir Fred Goodwin, Sir Stanley Johnson, Sir Evgeny Lebedev...
jail is accountable
A sacrifice???wtf?? A sacrifice is losing your child, your spouse, your home, your reputatiom your livelihoood. Not being called my lady or maam or dame is NOT A SACRIFICE.
Another example of the unequal justice system?
You ask why the engineers didn’t speak up? They wanted to keep their jobs and had signed confidentiality clauses in their contracts.
I’m a retired pentester, and on many occasions we found major issues in different systems, whilst the business just wanted a “rubber stamp”. On many occasions when submitting our findings we were dismissed and told to delete our reports - not an uncommon occurrence sadly.
Paula is dead right about the details she has mentioned, there are definitely people whom have gained great wealth and power from this and therefore they are responsible and should be held publicly accountable.
Jail Her!
Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice is an custodial offence.
She, & several others, should see prison time for what they’ve done!
The people shouldn’t stop until these people get their justice!
We the people have had enough of being trodden on by these elites.
She's bothered only about avoiding prosecution!.
Is she handing back any of the bloody big handshake she got when she left?
Criminal offences against these innocent postmasters by those in charge should be in prison.
These honours that are being dished out to all sorts of "failures" needs to stop, it's a joke when you look at so many failures recieving honours for second rate performances. What do you think "sir tony"!
Load of BOLL- - - S. It means nothing to that woman handing the CBE back. Well said young lady.
I would rather she handed back her golden handshake.
She handed it back ,because her hand was forced,only reason.
They all should be in jail immediately
Prosecute and jail time needed 😮
Oh what a sacrifice she made.
Harsh to do the right thing? That Labour councillor hasn’t a clue. That CBE should have been removed as soon as it was clear how this scandal played out.
She only gave it back before it was taken!
If I was running a post office today ,I would be looking to hand the keys back,it's a very shady business to be in,it's clearly currupt to the core,ditch it!!!
she should be in jail
Corporations need to know they are not above the little people they come from the little people they are not untouchable, you will be brought down, Paula Vennells is self righteous and has only given up her honour under public pressure, it means nothing and she is one of many more involved in the destruction of innocent lives 😢
Although everyone wants to see justice, for all of the Post Office workers, caught up in this terrible Scandal, in respect of what they have lost, it all seems too little too late.
Allowing the post office to investigate themselves, and to be its own law enforcement arm is absolute madness. And where were the basic rights of individual citizens? Do they not have some protections in the UK?
Just finished watching this series, seems like a reflection of todays society, those with power looking down on the little person. The more Woke you are the least you really care.
What does being woke have anything to do with it?
Starmer as DPP could have overruled every one of these convictions but CHOSE not to .
Because back when he was DPP nobody understood it was a mistake. Try harder.
Private prosecutions by the post office.
😂😂 same old shit the Tories have been in power for the last 13 years
@@jasoncooper9391It started under Labour, you dimwit!
@@aaronaaronson7600 Lol, maybe you weren't bright enough to see it. I knew plenty of people back then who smelled a Rat. Look harder next time.
Well done M D always enjoy listening to you straight talking very little BS i know that you can't be 100% as you would be put on the fire like poor Katie H
Can’t fault Michelle, says it as it is.
No fluffy fluffy from Michelle..she’s a northern lass.
Just a few years too late. The station is too concerned about Markle and culture wars.
@@andrewoliver8930 Correct. It's a very silly channel.