update! I spoke to the cm for saints row and they gave me a small update! Apparently boss factory was never intended to be a permanent app! It was always planned to be temporary so due to the game series kinda dying they decided not to renew the contract this time round. Which does mean this will be an isolated event as all other servers are on different contracts! Also i heard some *somewhat* promising news about the patch. Which is nice. I've seen some comments state there's no point to continuing with the patch due to uzi's patch, I've seen his work and its great, but i think this patch does have it's place as to honor a legacy of a great man, and also just to give us SR2 PC players a good vanila base game so when people buy the game they arent buying a broken product. Not every SR fan wants to mod the game if that makes sense. Anyways keep comments nice and chill, seen a bit too much of that saints row hostility on this one :/
@@AJThirdStreet Saints Row 1/2/3/4/GatOutOfhell/Reboot was the only flop,We need an official Saints Row 5 , A sincere Saints Row V(5)release , i had a dream of one.
Boss Factory had its issues when it came to glitches and technical issues and some thought it lacked clothing but it really did hold you over until the reboot released that's sad to hear. RIP Boss Factory 2022-2024.
I remember me and my brother always played this game when i was younger, I held a grudge against him for stealing the zombie mission from me, it wasn't replay able i think. All is forgiven now though, oh how time flies...
This news gives me butterfly guts, figures crossed for a good company to buy the ip and not make it live service b.s make a good game for love letter to Saints Row fans
Are you dumb, the only thing a big company would do with Saint's Row is put it on a shelf to never be seen again, it was a niche IP to begin with and it still is. Saint's Row may be worth something to us fans but would be a bad investment.
the boss factory servers are separate, saints row 3 and 4 also had boss sharing and those servers expired a year to two years later for both. boss sharing is cool but its always been limited.
Can’t say I’m surprised at this lol. I’d like Deep Silver to sell the IP to a developer that knows Saints Row really well, and one that makes good games. I don’t think we’re going to see another Saints Row in the next 5-10 years tbh
saints row died when mike watson died, why? because 2 was the last true game and he was the only one working on the port. pretty much no new optimized port for pc and steam deck so in a way it died.
@@AJThirdStreet thankfully i got to talk to him before he was gone, never knew this stuff would happen at the time i was talking to him on steam forums.
@@AJThirdStreet i know, after he was gone i just have no hopes for the new port. i heard the current saints row 2 port is pretty bad and was never fixed which is why we needed him.
Speaking of the SR2 Patch, It's dead. Mike Watson was trying to do it even when he was risking his career, he spent his dying days playtesting and fixing stuff. MrSaintsGodzilla21 speaks on this, I think he said he was a playtester but the current state of the patch is terrible, worse than what we have now. The patch only ran in 15 fps and had constant graphical glitches. It's sad that such a good game never got the port it needed. R.I.P. IdolNinja and SR2
Speaking to the CM I've heard they still want to push for the patch, but unfortunately it's going to be up to corporate types, which let's face it, reduces our chances to minus 0
@@AJThirdStreet Unfortunately. It's always the best games in the series that have the worst ports. SR2 and GTA IV both had terrible PC ports. GTA IV hasn't been fixed and modders are doing what they can. We have to stick with IdolNinja's GOTR which patches the game nicely. Unfortunately you can't have that patch without all the chaotic stuff it adds.
@@FreeMyVoxels yes you can, also GOTR doesn’t actually fix anything performance wise it’s always been a myth. If you want something to fix the game as much as possible look up SR2 Juiced Patch or Kobraworks
Bruh, I bought this game today mainly for the community sharing and character creation. I knew the story was bad, but those things were why I gave it a shot. To my surprise it's not available anymore ☹️
Disregarding Gat outta H, you have the superhero power stuff with 4, but to go and do a sequel without that was a power struggle. Agents of Mayhem aesthetically reminded me more of Saints, Pierce was still there, but it was more grounded and felt like the reboot. The reboot graphics did not remind me of the Saints. However, I had a deep voice boss that at times had the same feel when he was quick to pull the trigger in the cutscenes. That said, I understand GTA 6 was going to be more grounded, and maybe Rstar didn't want a repeat flop like SR, given SR was also grounded down.
On console, Boss Factory was a stand alone app, allowing players to make their characters and then upload them for download in-game. Just wondering if this shut down will affect the app or if the app can still be used.
This is funny. Sad but funny. They couldn't be bothered to upkeep a simple feature. God I hope 20 years from now someone takes up the matle of making a good saints remake.
I’m not surprised this game wasn’t reviewed well unlike their older games. To the patch thing I don’t think ds cares enough about there own ips I doubt it will ever come out. Fans seem to be doing a better job then ds like uzis or massakos mods just being a example.
The server thing I believe is less so due to the reception moreso to DS legit not having a studio to keep em going, I wonder what happens when the sr1+2 servers expire
everything goes eventually its just a matter of how long will it last and honestly with how long it took for this game to release and how poorly the series has been received since sr4 the only chance it has of going on is with it being sold off to someone who's willing to put the time and effort into turning things around needless to say that's hard selling point for the ip
I fuck*ng hate to say that but even if some studio picked up the IP today and developed the game for full 5 years without any issues it wouldn't be the same as saints 1 to 3, even 4. When saints 1 came out games were still a niche thing. Nowadays it attracts so much attention, which is both good and bad. The only version that'd allowed to exist would be the 2022 version. The IP is still valuable but, I'd expect a mobile game at best or a easter egg in some other game at worst, for the next decade. I just wish they'd at least emulate, not even remaster or even port, the first 2 games on ps5. The first one is still stuck on the 360.
Emulation stuff is up to console companies, Xbox gave them resources to play the old games and they jumped on it, they'd do the same if ps tried with backwards compatibility too, as for pc they're all playable except 1 but you can just manually emulated that. I do disagree with you partially on the earlier bit however, I think the pushback sr2022 got shows if anything that game isn't allowed to exist and it's the earlier, edgier and harsher ones the community and industry was crying out for Best bet is maybe the patch, maybe a 4 remaster (as it'd be cheap) and then give it a few years and they'll pick up a dirt cheap contract with a team to make a new SR
SR3 was my first, I know it wasnt the "best" but, being my first, I thought it was great. I did go back and play SR2 PC with gentlemen of the row patch. I really did enjoy it and thought it was abit better in alot of ways. I did get 4 and GoH, but I only "completed" them and never looked back. 2 and 3 will be the ones I look to when I need that fix :)
Shame how this is gone. I think Deep silver won’t sell the IP, but hope as big fan. Is probably bring Volition back and the Saints Row they wanted to make and what will wanted, but that’s far fetch. So my only things I want is Saints Row 1&2 remaster
Or make a saints row 2 from the reboot in make it like the old sr 2 in add more characters in start makeing blocks for the gangs to stand on like hang out spots saints row should been like gta 5 with all the hood ganster shit included
this is why we need legislation for games. i understand servers cost money. let players host them or do the boss factory without needing something on the publisher's end. i don't care if only 1 person paid for a game, you can't just delete their product.
Saints Row died ages ago when devs divided the fanbase with SR3. It started out as semi serious street gang game and devolved into parodies and fan fiction going all over the place with no plan or sense of direction. If they make a new Saints Row and keep repeating the mistake of trying to cater to the divided fan bases they have created... no, there's no point. Saint's Row is a dish that tries to satisfy vegans and carnivors with a bacon free dish with extra 100% real pig beacon. Someone is not going to be happy about that meal, most lightly both parties will have complaints.
deep silver are currently in talks with studios for someone to take over the patch, so fingers crossed we'll get our hands on it one day... maybe... Who knows anymore
@@AJThirdStreeti really do wish deep silver or embracer just gives the IP away to another publisher or developer, though idk how you would give it to T2 already has GTA and Mafia and Ubisoft already has Watch Dogs and Driver(though that title isn’t talked about as much)
Take 2 would just kill it off as it's a GTA competitor, you'd need a studio who really wants to rival GTA and be competitive in the market place. THQ used to be like that until they lost all sense of reason
Yes… I pray everytime that someone or a company will buy a brand and trademark of Saints Row and will make a great game with old characters or something like this… but all we can is just a hope. As far as I know veterans from Volition currently works at Shapeshifter Games… 🤞
You gave the Character Customization way too much credit. That part of the game sucked. SR2, 3 and 4 had thee best customization ever. I play with a Female character in a lot of my games and SR was not exception. The female characters shoulders were square and there wasn't a single way to pop out her butt. She was built like a trans person. The facial customization was horrible and by no means do not and I repeat DO NOT randomize the face. I think I played for less than 30 hours and abandoned it.
Saints Row 2022 is better than Cyberjunk 2077, but not as best as Starfield is, Starfield is 5 times better than Saints Row 2022, and 13 times better than Cyberjunk 2077
Lmao. Tell me you haven’t played Cyberpunk without telling me. Cyberpunk + the Phantom Liberty expansion blows Saints Row 2022 and Starfield out of the water. I’m sorry you have mediocre taste in games 🥱
@@Owen01 Phantom liberty didn't do anything useful, even Volition and Bethesda were laughing at this Dogshit Liberty update that it never even try to help Cyberpunk to beat Starfield and Saints Row 2022
@@Owen01cyberpunks my fav on this list, starfield is cool in its own flawed way... And the reboot is obviously a perfect 10/10 so it's unfair to rank them against it
update! I spoke to the cm for saints row and they gave me a small update! Apparently boss factory was never intended to be a permanent app! It was always planned to be temporary so due to the game series kinda dying they decided not to renew the contract this time round.
Which does mean this will be an isolated event as all other servers are on different contracts!
Also i heard some *somewhat* promising news about the patch. Which is nice.
I've seen some comments state there's no point to continuing with the patch due to uzi's patch, I've seen his work and its great, but i think this patch does have it's place as to honor a legacy of a great man, and also just to give us SR2 PC players a good vanila base game so when people buy the game they arent buying a broken product. Not every SR fan wants to mod the game if that makes sense.
Anyways keep comments nice and chill, seen a bit too much of that saints row hostility on this one :/
why is there a cm for saints row right now? Like who even pays them?
@@bigfennecThey managed multiple IP's such as the metro games, so when saints is quiet they just focus efforts elsewhere
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@@AJThirdStreet Saints Row 1/2/3/4/GatOutOfhell/Reboot was the only flop,We need an official Saints Row 5 , A sincere Saints Row V(5)release , i had a dream of one.
Feel sorry for anyone that plays the current saints row
it's just... just awful...
Stopped at 2 the last best SR
Saints row could be bought by someone who loves the franchise. And they might make a game fans really want.
Boss Factory had its issues when it came to glitches and technical issues and some thought it lacked clothing but it really did hold you over until the reboot released that's sad to hear. RIP Boss Factory 2022-2024.
I feel bad for the workers. The higher ups made them make the game like this.
THIS
they messed up making Saints row remake 😢by killing this game not adding more stuff and adding Not custom cribs like SR2 did and custom weapons
Seconded. I can't believe they made a DLC pack with more LARP stuff!
We really didn't know how good we had it with saints row 2 man... Saints row 3 marked such a shift in the series
It was you guys complaining about a good game that killed it
@@Vivid_dreams10it was shit.
I remember me and my brother always played this game when i was younger, I held a grudge against him for stealing the zombie mission from me, it wasn't replay able i think. All is forgiven now though, oh how time flies...
That sucks, I really liked saving characters and using other people’s characters
This news gives me butterfly guts, figures crossed for a good company to buy the ip and not make it live service b.s make a good game for love letter to Saints Row fans
Are you dumb, the only thing a big company would do with Saint's Row is put it on a shelf to never be seen again, it was a niche IP to begin with and it still is. Saint's Row may be worth something to us fans but would be a bad investment.
the boss factory servers are separate, saints row 3 and 4 also had boss sharing and those servers expired a year to two years later for both. boss sharing is cool but its always been limited.
I just started playing saints row 1 and am having fun but I wanted the reboot
Can’t say I’m surprised at this lol. I’d like Deep Silver to sell the IP to a developer that knows Saints Row really well, and one that makes good games. I don’t think we’re going to see another Saints Row in the next 5-10 years tbh
@@Owen01 Let's sell it to rockstar! *Cries*
@@AJThirdStreet I would laugh and cry lmao
saints row died when mike watson died, why? because 2 was the last true game and he was the only one working on the port. pretty much no new optimized port for pc and steam deck so in a way it died.
Rest in peace mike
@@AJThirdStreet thankfully i got to talk to him before he was gone, never knew this stuff would happen at the time i was talking to him on steam forums.
@@FreeAimDogmike was one of the goats, not one person I know has a bad word to say about him
@@AJThirdStreet i know, after he was gone i just have no hopes for the new port. i heard the current saints row 2 port is pretty bad and was never fixed which is why we needed him.
I tried playing saints row the third on pc and it wouldn't play so I got me a refund on steam
It wouldn't work? That's weird it's usually the most optimised in the series
@AJThirdStreet I did heard on steam community that's old and has trouble working on modern windows. Mine is a windows 11
Speaking of the SR2 Patch, It's dead. Mike Watson was trying to do it even when he was risking his career, he spent his dying days playtesting and fixing stuff. MrSaintsGodzilla21 speaks on this, I think he said he was a playtester but the current state of the patch is terrible, worse than what we have now. The patch only ran in 15 fps and had constant graphical glitches. It's sad that such a good game never got the port it needed. R.I.P. IdolNinja and SR2
Speaking to the CM I've heard they still want to push for the patch, but unfortunately it's going to be up to corporate types, which let's face it, reduces our chances to minus 0
@@AJThirdStreet Unfortunately. It's always the best games in the series that have the worst ports. SR2 and GTA IV both had terrible PC ports. GTA IV hasn't been fixed and modders are doing what they can. We have to stick with IdolNinja's GOTR which patches the game nicely. Unfortunately you can't have that patch without all the chaotic stuff it adds.
If you are talking about the gotr mod additions you can build a default version of the patch that only implements fixes, no actual additions
@@FreeMyVoxels yes you can, also GOTR doesn’t actually fix anything performance wise it’s always been a myth. If you want something to fix the game as much as possible look up SR2 Juiced Patch or Kobraworks
Bruh, I bought this game today mainly for the community sharing and character creation. I knew the story was bad, but those things were why I gave it a shot. To my surprise it's not available anymore ☹️
You should get a refund.
This news is enough to make a grown man cry
I do enjoy it but the sound is the main issue for me. Cars are way too quiet even after tweaking the settings.
Disregarding Gat outta H, you have the superhero power stuff with 4, but to go and do a sequel without that was a power struggle. Agents of Mayhem aesthetically reminded me more of Saints, Pierce was still there, but it was more grounded and felt like the reboot. The reboot graphics did not remind me of the Saints. However, I had a deep voice boss that at times had the same feel when he was quick to pull the trigger in the cutscenes. That said, I understand GTA 6 was going to be more grounded, and maybe Rstar didn't want a repeat flop like SR, given SR was also grounded down.
Saints Row Remake was dead on arrival. I'm shocked anyone found this game's writing bearable.
On the bright side the games fun somewhat if you just mute all voice audio
Maybe THQ will buy it as they've been pretty successful resurrecting IPS 💜⚜️💜
We can hope
On console, Boss Factory was a stand alone app, allowing players to make their characters and then upload them for download in-game. Just wondering if this shut down will affect the app or if the app can still be used.
I believe the app may be fully down but I don't know, all sharing features are gone so even if you can enter you won't be able to upload/download
This is funny. Sad but funny. They couldn't be bothered to upkeep a simple feature. God I hope 20 years from now someone takes up the matle of making a good saints remake.
I can't believe it, it really is all gone.😢
I’m not surprised this game wasn’t reviewed well unlike their older games. To the patch thing I don’t think ds cares enough about there own ips I doubt it will ever come out. Fans seem to be doing a better job then ds like uzis or massakos mods just being a example.
The server thing I believe is less so due to the reception moreso to DS legit not having a studio to keep em going, I wonder what happens when the sr1+2 servers expire
I don't get why they would purposely cause this game to be bad
More saints row videos i also have saints row concept ideas hopefully developers watch this
Well This Sucks
Solid review of my video
@@AJThirdStreet No... It Was My Response Of The Situation.. Im Not The Biggest Fan Of Your Works But By No Means Did I Say Your Videos Are Terrible
@@ethanblair7351I know I'm just joking!
What? There is no future dude the company is dead there was no chance of a future that ship has LONG since sailed
The dev team is dead but if DS hire a new studio it'd be in the exact same position, and since the IP has value it's likely
I just woke up from a coma since 22nd August 2021!!!! I CANT WAIT TO SEE THIS NEW SAINTS ROW GAME.... WAIT OH GOD NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
everything goes eventually its just a matter of how long will it last and honestly with how long it took for this game to release and how poorly the series has been received since sr4 the only chance it has of going on is with it being sold off to someone who's willing to put the time and effort into turning things around needless to say that's hard selling point for the ip
I fuck*ng hate to say that but even if some studio picked up the IP today and developed the game for full 5 years without any issues it wouldn't be the same as saints 1 to 3, even 4. When saints 1 came out games were still a niche thing. Nowadays it attracts so much attention, which is both good and bad. The only version that'd allowed to exist would be the 2022 version.
The IP is still valuable but, I'd expect a mobile game at best or a easter egg in some other game at worst, for the next decade.
I just wish they'd at least emulate, not even remaster or even port, the first 2 games on ps5. The first one is still stuck on the 360.
Emulation stuff is up to console companies, Xbox gave them resources to play the old games and they jumped on it, they'd do the same if ps tried with backwards compatibility too, as for pc they're all playable except 1 but you can just manually emulated that.
I do disagree with you partially on the earlier bit however, I think the pushback sr2022 got shows if anything that game isn't allowed to exist and it's the earlier, edgier and harsher ones the community and industry was crying out for
Best bet is maybe the patch, maybe a 4 remaster (as it'd be cheap) and then give it a few years and they'll pick up a dirt cheap contract with a team to make a new SR
I miss Kinzie
SR3 was my first, I know it wasnt the "best" but, being my first, I thought it was great. I did go back and play SR2 PC with gentlemen of the row patch. I really did enjoy it and thought it was abit better in alot of ways. I did get 4 and GoH, but I only "completed" them and never looked back. 2 and 3 will be the ones I look to when I need that fix :)
I'm not upset cause it took me two years to figure out how the damn thing work tbh
Shame how this is gone. I think Deep silver won’t sell the IP, but hope as big fan. Is probably bring Volition back and the Saints Row they wanted to make and what will wanted, but that’s far fetch. So my only things I want is Saints Row 1&2 remaster
Or make a saints row 2 from the reboot in make it like the old sr 2 in add more characters in start makeing blocks for the gangs to stand on like hang out spots saints row should been like gta 5 with all the hood ganster shit included
@1:35 The first big deal that isn't a big deal but ends up being a big deal like a woman in a clothing shop. 😂
this is why we need legislation for games. i understand servers cost money. let players host them or do the boss factory without needing something on the publisher's end. i don't care if only 1 person paid for a game, you can't just delete their product.
I don't get it cause some old games let you host, but for some reason they lost that ability in modern gaming. Most likely due to greed
Saints Row died ages ago when devs divided the fanbase with SR3. It started out as semi serious street gang game and devolved into parodies and fan fiction going all over the place with no plan or sense of direction. If they make a new Saints Row and keep repeating the mistake of trying to cater to the divided fan bases they have created... no, there's no point. Saint's Row is a dish that tries to satisfy vegans and carnivors with a bacon free dish with extra 100% real pig beacon. Someone is not going to be happy about that meal, most lightly both parties will have complaints.
Aj’s hot even when giving bad news
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Saints row and volition are both dead, and I dont feel bad. They never released the sr2 source code
deep silver are currently in talks with studios for someone to take over the patch, so fingers crossed we'll get our hands on it one day... maybe... Who knows anymore
@@AJThirdStreeti really do wish deep silver or embracer just gives the IP away to another publisher or developer, though idk how you would give it to T2 already has GTA and Mafia and Ubisoft already has Watch Dogs and Driver(though that title isn’t talked about as much)
Take 2 would just kill it off as it's a GTA competitor, you'd need a studio who really wants to rival GTA and be competitive in the market place. THQ used to be like that until they lost all sense of reason
Yes… I pray everytime that someone or a company will buy a brand and trademark of Saints Row and will make a great game with old characters or something like this… but all we can is just a hope. As far as I know veterans from Volition currently works at Shapeshifter Games… 🤞
Saint's Row is now officially dead :( goodbye sweet prince.
Uh ok Saints Row got buried (again) now what
The only good part of the game is gone. Wow.
Will SR even have a new game In the future 🤔
If there is going to be a new game, it probably won’t be anytime soon
I can't say a great deal but I wouldn't get your hopes up currently
i just bought the game😮💨
You gave the Character Customization way too much credit. That part of the game sucked. SR2, 3 and 4 had thee best customization ever. I play with a Female character in a lot of my games and SR was not exception. The female characters shoulders were square and there wasn't a single way to pop out her butt. She was built like a trans person. The facial customization was horrible and by no means do not and I repeat DO NOT randomize the face. I think I played for less than 30 hours and abandoned it.
Who cares about the "boss factory" anyway let alone the reboot itself
I think it's more about what it implies for the future then the specific loss of the boss factory
It's 1 am why must you post
*Very audible SIGH* 2:40
Its 1pm! Wtf
@AJThirdStreet not for me
@@AJThirdStreet not for me
@@Ajs_new_mouse Timezones exist
Bloody Hell!!!! Again,, IT''S NOT DIED TILL I SAY IT IS!!!!!!!
Saints row never dies! but sadly boss factory has ☹️
The reboot is nothing but trash.
alright
Hm 🫤
Saints Row 2022 is better than Cyberjunk 2077, but not as best as Starfield is, Starfield is 5 times better than Saints Row 2022, and 13 times better than Cyberjunk 2077
Lmao. Tell me you haven’t played Cyberpunk without telling me. Cyberpunk + the Phantom Liberty expansion blows Saints Row 2022 and Starfield out of the water. I’m sorry you have mediocre taste in games 🥱
SR 2022 and Starfield are trash flops so cry more
@@Owen01 Phantom liberty didn't do anything useful, even Volition and Bethesda were laughing at this Dogshit Liberty update that it never even try to help Cyberpunk to beat Starfield and Saints Row 2022
@@Owen01cyberpunks my fav on this list, starfield is cool in its own flawed way... And the reboot is obviously a perfect 10/10 so it's unfair to rank them against it
@@ReissColewell18 your opinions are rubbish, just like Cyberjunk 2077
go woke go broke