How to fit & install an electric shower. Mira Go shower installation.
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2016
- How to install and wire an electric shower - In this video I give a full guide of how to fit and install an electric shower, including electrical wiring , RCD protection, plumbing, current regulations, locating the shower switch and shower head/bar installation. In this example I use a Mira Go 9.5kw shower but the basic principles are the same for all electric showers.
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All domestic electrical work in the UK must meet the requirements of the Part P regulations
If attempting any electrical work yourself you must consult with your local authority building regulations department to ensure the work is carried out safely and checked by an approved inspector following completion.
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Shoutout to the screwfix pencil :-D they are so handy! Great videos I have learnt a lot and currently about 2/3 through my bathroom refurbishment.
Nice one James. I often 'forget' to put the pencils back! Best of luck with the bathroom and thanks for watching!
Thanks very much. I’m just doing mine and glad I saw this video. I never thought to use push fit I found a slim pipe about 19mm form home bargains and I’m going to use it as a sleeve for the flexipipe when I bury it in the chased channel and cement it. The pipe will be protected and still able to move up and down. Cheers.
Legend... did one of these myself today, watched yours to check if mine was likely to be safe!
Thanks for watching, if in doubt get an electrician to check it!
Great video mate. U make it look simple. I'm about to have a bash. Tempted to make a follow-on video, "here's how to completely arse it up"
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Well be careful, it's notifiable work and water and electric don't go well together! If in doubt get the professionals in!!
Happy I've found this channel. You're good at explaining.
Welcome aboard!
Really great vid. helped me plan fitting an electric shower. Thanks for posting. subscribed..
Thanks for the feedback James, glad to have helped. Thanks or watching!
Very interesting to c the differences in wiring and such from California to England. We use 120 volt for most things. I have never seen an electric shower. We plumb hot and cold water to shower, sink and tub. Nearly all water heaters run on natural gas. The terminology is also way different. The systems r different. But both r highly developed and efficient. More than one way to skin a cat. Also, never saw a toilet that didn’t mount on drain pipe with wax ring.
I always find it amazing how many different ways we all do things, but with the internet and travel the world is getting smaller! Electric showers have been common here for years although gas heated water mixer showers are probably more common now. We have combi boilers that heat water when the tap is turned on but also more commonly we have pressurised boiler systems which allow hot water to be use under pressure in several rooms at once since several en suites and bathrooms have become common place within recent years. Problem with the combi boiler is if you run too many taps or showers at once you lose pressure. Thanks for the info and great to have you watching from afar. Best of luck!
Great! You are a very good teacher. Wish I could enrol with you as a trainee
Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for that. Gotta get me some of them CK wire strippers!
No worries, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
Thank you buddy. All this is useful to me tomorrow.
No problem, happy to help. Hope the project went well, and thanks for watching!
Another great demo, will help me a lot. Cheers
Thanks for the feedback.
all the videos I've seen of yours are very helpful and I learn a lot from you. I'd like to add that on porcelain tiles pencil can be really difficult to rub off. I've had to replace tiles because of it.
Thanks for your help!
Hi Don, thanks for the feedback. Glad you like the videos and really great that they've helped. You're right about the pencil. Try a bit of nail varnish remover on the pencil, usually does the trick! Good luck and thanks for watching!
POUSE around the HOUSE oh wow really!? wish I'd known that at the time. white spirit didn't even work for me. thanks again. recommended your videos to my friends 👍
Hi again, the nail varnish remover also works on natural stone and unsealed porcelain if you spill anything on it before it is sealed. Just dab it on and leave to soak a few minutes then wipe and reapply until it's gone. Good luck!
I'm new to your channel. I have to say your video is amazing 😊
Thank you so much!
bom trabalho muito obrigado por me ajudar🙂🙂
So helpful. Thank you.
No problem.
Thanks mate!
Hi do you not have to put some kind of sealant around the water inlet and electrical cable that are coming through the wall to prevent water that ravels behine the unit from going into the wall? I see some manufacturers (for example Aqulisa in their quartz range) recomment this?
Excellent video..
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for making this great video with very clear and detailed instructions! 👍🏻
One question of my installed electric shower - “do you know why shower water becomes weak once turning hot water BUT very strong when using cold water? Do I need to replace it with another new one?”
Same here!!! How to fix the problem??? Please help!
The temperature is adjusted by regulating the flow of water. Turning the temp up means the water slows down and spends more time heating up. The element would still be outputting 9.5 kw regardless of the temp dial setting.
Those showers that have 2 dials incorporate 2 elements, the eco setting turns only one element on so it runs at half power - useful in summer when the incoming water is warmer.
Can you add another shower head on to the existing pipe
Great men
Excellent
POUSE around the HOUSE
You should also have explained when fitting a new electric shower that the dial needs to be set to cold, so that this fills the empty boiler with cold water. Otherwise if the dial is set to hot, then this will turn on the heating element before water fills the boiler and burn out the heating element.
Furthermore, you don't need to use silicon in or around the shower unit.
Thanks for the feedback!
Very clear thanks . Subd
interesting that they don't advise to seal the unit to the wall, I always have done top and sides, leaving just a small drain area at the very lowest point. But one thing I would mention, I note you did not seal around the riser fittings? Always dropping some silicone into the plug holes and around the internal parts of the support brackets, to keep the water out from behind the wall / tiles.
I know they are all like it, but those big 10mm cables right by push fit water inlets creep me out! Great vid again. cheers
from mira "Under no circumstances should an electric shower be sealed to the wall. There are short ‘spacers’ in each corner of the shower’s rear-casing which keep it proud of the wall by a few millimetres. This allows ventilation around the side and back of the shower module. Without this ventilation, it may be prone to condensation or over-hearing, which will subsequently cause failure of, or damage to, the internal components. Water or electric supplies that come in from behind the unit must be sealed to prevent water entering the building structure."
Nice video. Would love to see how you sealed the hole where the water pipe and cable on the wall behind the shower.
I did, at 16 minutes into the video. Hope that helps.
Thanks for showing how it's done :)
No problem, happy to help!
I wish my sparkie had watchd this, he left a cap on the inflow and declared a fault with the shower. Had to call out MIra. Great vid, thanks.
As said this is not DIY, if you try it your self it will leak or there will be an issue.
Thanks for the feedback.
My bathroom doesn’t have a shower at all i’m thinking I’d have to install an isolation switch run into the fuse board and then run the shower into that. Also I need to consider how I would go about installing the cold water feed. Can I just come straight off of the pipes that feed the bath? I would much rather install new flex pipes to be honest but again that would involve a bit of work. Perhaps I could install flex run it under the hallway floor and then through the wall. My flat is all concrete and load bearing walls so it’s an absolute pain in the arse
In your video you have used speed fit to connect the water. On my Mira go shower it is recommended to use a compression fitting on to the manifold. Can I use speed fit connectors? Cheers
Follow the manufacturers instructions. My shower could take a push fit joint. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Hi,your videos are great!very good job!i would like to ask you something,i just bought an electric shower but without knowing nothing about it,i am a little bit afraid of the plumbing part,basically i do have a normal shower tap and the plumbing system works with an electric pump and since i can not afford to spend almost 1000 euro for plumbers etc the only option available was to take out the old tap and from there to the cold side connecting an hose straight to the electric shower,in my mind it should work but im not 100% sure because everytime i connect the pressure washer to that very tap for some reason after 3 second stop working like if the water stop running and the only way to use it without problems is that i need to open another tap (feeded by the water pump) everywhere in the house and keep it open until done,in that way everything works fine and because of this im not 100% sure,im just worried that the electric shower would do the same of the pressure washer...have you any idea if can be done in this way?
Hi there, really sorry but not sure. Maybe some plumbers watching may be able to help. Try plumberparts.co.uk. James has a very informative youtube channel and may be able to help. Sound like it's something to do with either your type of boiler and heating system, or you may have below average water pressure in your house. Best of luck and thanks for watching.
your video is great. Thank you very much
Hi Demis, glad you found it useful. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching!
So the plastic connectors are good to use? My shower inlet (triton) doesn't hold the copper ring at all so I'm going to try the plastic connectors.
the plastic connectors are for safety. non electrical conducting.
Excellent. Well done and please answer my question because I am installing showwr on weekwnd
How did the shower install go? Apologies, I'm a bit behind on the comments!
The electric shower don't required the main pressure control?
Thanks for your reply.
i can see now, that the electric shower… cold water pipe, does not actually connect to the wash basin copper pipe. Looks like i might have to do a lot more homework on this particular topic.
I’ll google it, and see what i can come up with. At the moment… I’m looking into central heating.. how it all works with a combi-boiler
Very helpful
Glad to be of service! Thanks for watching.
Where can I buy this from?
Subscribed
Great stuff, thanks for watching!
Did you use a french letter to cover the water pipe,like it !
But very clear instructions.good job
It was just the packet the bracket came in, sorry to disappoint but that is an excellent idea. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching!
Top bloke
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.
I'm looking to replace a broken shower with a similar fit to it as you described near the start of the video. This one looks like it would do the job as all the electrical and water connections are in the same place. The current one that that is broken is a Mira Essentials 10.8 kw. I believe they don't sell them any more and i'm looking for an easy replacement job. I've done it before so am confident in doing so. Do you think this shower is a suitable replacement for the Essentials shower. I could provide the link to the installation and user guide for the Essentials which shows the internal layout. It looks quite similar to this. Any info helps. Look forward to a reply, cheers mate.
Hi Frazer, to be honest you can fit most showers where an old one has been, it's just a case of covering old hole and doing a neat job so you want a shower the same size or bigger. But the important bit is safety. Make sure your cable is big enough to take 10.8 kw and the MCB is the correct watts to protect the cable. Also it should be RCD protected. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
what shower bracket for ?is it true that shower hose should not be used at lower height than shower unit ???
Hi Alan, the shower bracket is to hold the shower head while you shower. As for the height of shower hose, I'm not sure about that. Just follow the manufacturers instructions for the particular shower that you have. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video. I’ve just had a shower fitted. The electrician has fitted the control box so low, the hose has to be stretched up completely for my Son to fit under the shower head! Will this affect the pressure?
It just doesn’t seem right to me 😕
Shouldn't affect the pressure as it's controlled by an electric pump but placement of the shower is often down to ergonomics and where you cable and water pipes are accessible. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 👍
Is the fitting to the shower water inlet a push fit elbow with a stem with a compression fitting to the shower? Thanks.
Hi Mark. The fitting on the shower in the video (the plastic bit for the water) can accept a compression joint or a push fitting as per the instructions. I used a JG Speedfit elbow on the fitting then used a piece of 15mm JG speedfit pipe down to another elbow which I turned back into the wall. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
Our shower broke down years ago. Im thinking of replacing it this week. once I turn off the electricity, water and get to the stage where I have put the shower unit on should I turn the water valve back on and test if the water comes through?
Its been years since the shower was working. No water comes out of the shower now but I put that down to the shower not working and not because the valve isn't working. I assume the valve is still working. They had a plumber look at it years ago when it first broke and my mother said the reason the shower is not working is because the motor inside of the shower unit broke. I assume she was reffering to the temperature unit.
Thanks for your help.
Hi there, if you isolate the power then isolate the service valve (assuming you have one), remove the shower from the wall. Then open the service valve and if water comes out then you know the water supply is fine and it's the shower that's broken. Please bear in mind that fitting a shower comes under the Part P regulations so you either need a qualified electrician to carry out the work or speak to building control in your local authority who will arrange for an inspector to check your work (for a fee) on completion if you do it yourself. As your existing shower is old you may well need a new complete shower cable to cope with the power of modern showers, and possibly an RCD if you don't already have one in order to be safe, and comply with the current legislation / regulations. I point all this stuff out in the video, I just want you to be aware that if installed poorly without the correct safety in place, electricity and water is not a good mix! These extras also come at additional cost and can make the job more complicated. Good luck with it and thanks for watching!
Hi man. Good clear video with all sorts of tips.
If you've got time I was just looking for some clarification. I'm a keyboard tapper so don't do diy!
A fitter from a company installed a shower for an elderly couple but it's not flush to the wall and loose. He then advised them to put tape around the side of the unit to stop water getting in 'because you might die'. To top it off there was no cleanup attempt at job 'completion'.
I see you say sealing the box to the wall is not advised, only the hole around the cables/water supply. So despite the disappointing job done it sounds like the only issue I should be concerned with is tightening the box to the wall. I don't need to be concerned with water getting through the shower unit/cover? Thanks.
Hi, you have to go with the instructions for that specific shower. Often there will be a seal between the back and the front of the shower so water can't penetrate. Some showers say not to seal them in due to them getting too hot and they need air circulation. I couldn't say without seeing the shower. I would advise to get another electrician to check it, or speak to your local building control. Also see if you can find the instructions for the shower unit and see what they say as all showers may vary. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
POUSE around the HOUSE thanks for the reply. I will do that.
"I'll show you how they work now" Proceeds to put elbow right in front of the camera lmfao
Sorry, I'm not a trained camera man!
Excellent video as always. Important question for you...I've just had a Triton T80z fast fit electric shower fitted (the previous shower failed at an unfortunate time as I am thinking of enlarging the bathroom with new fittings next year). This has replaced a Mira, both old and new showers being 8.5kW so this is a' replacement' not a new fitting. As far as the electrician was concerned (and as I understand the current Building Regs.) in this instance an RCD retrospectively fitted to the circuit is desirable but NOT absolutely necessary. In the manufacturers literature and when I rang Triton they state that an RCD is mandatory. So I presume my warranty will not be valid without an RCD being fitted. As I say, I am thinking of having a complete overhaul of my bathroom next year. My question is this...is the current situation safe without the RCD being fitted for the time being, the electrician says it is and the RCD just gives added protection. What do you think? Your opinion would be greatly appreciated.
I am not an electrician and have all my work signed off by a qualified electrician. That said, my understanding is that all new installations or replacements require RCD protection. A good way to do this is get an electrician to fit a new consumer unit which will have rcd protection for all circuits in your house. Maybe speak to your local authority building inspector. Hope that helps and thanks for your question.
Could you not fit an RCBO instead ? That would have your RCD protection covered then
i don’t have a shower fitted in my tiny bathroom; so it looks like i might have to get a professional in to sort it all out.
i don’t think i can do this myself. I’m not a DIY-ER. It’s arranging how the shower unit is going to fit in.
There’s a lot of work involved, with the electrics and water pipe. i would imagine then….. the water pipe connects from the wash basin pipe. All, i have in my kitchen is a compact water heater ( Ariston) looks very complicated.
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The water intake on an electric shower must be a mains cold fitting usually it needs to enter the unit via the ceiling, this is so that a head of pressure is created. It can't come from the wash basin cold unless it is mains pressure, but even then it would look unsightly because you would have pipe runs all over the bathroom. If you have a loft tank, that would be ideal.
Is 10mm cable safe to use for all/most electrical showers?
It all depends on the length of cable, the shower, the MCB or fuse protecting the cable etc. But generally speaking 10mm is going to cover you for most standard showers providing you use the correcting rated fuse/ mcb protection with additional RCD protection. Always check with the manufacturers instructions and with a qualified electrician. A wet shower is not the place you want to be with dodgy wiring! Thanks for watching!
Any problems with using push fit for water connection so many plumbers recommend compression and says push fits can blow off!
These push fits are compression also. You have to push and twist tight.
I've never had a problem with them but horses for courses! These are speedfit so the push then twist to lock tight.
Hi, what size cable would you need for a 10.5kw shower? Will a 10mm do?
yes
Have you a video doing the plumbing side of it
I don't think I have. I installed the plumbing just before I started my youtube channel.
Could you have used a 32a MCB, with 6mm cable on a 9.5kw shower?
Possibly, there are few other things to consider though. Thanks for watching.
can you use 8KW shower for 10 mm cable. Thanks.
Yes, but it depends on a number of factors, like is the cable buried in insulation etc. But generally speaking yes it's ok. If in doubt get a qualified electrician to check and sign the work off or speak to local building control as it comes under part P regulations. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
Do you have to seal the hole with sealant mine isn’t ?
It usually says on the fitting instructions of the particular unit you have.
Brilliant video
How come you didn’t test the RCD via the shower connections to prove protection?
Hi Kevin, the video was to show how to fit a shower, not how to do electrical testing. This work comes under part P of the regs so on inspection it would be tested when checked and signed off. Although I take your point, I could have added it to the video. It's certainly another video idea! Thanks for watching!
In the UK do you have hot water at the sinks? I'm just wondering why you would need an electric water heater in the shower. In the US we don't have anything like this.
Hi there, yes we have hot water at the tap. We have different types of boilers that are either gas or oil powered which heat the water, either when you turn the tap on, or during the day and kept warm to be used later. We also have immersion heaters which are electrical elements that heat tanks of water. Showers can be powered by a gas or oil boiler so as you say no need to use an electric shower, but in some cases people like both as if the gas supply is knocked out, you can still have a hot shower and vice versa. Electric showers are very common and nothing out of the ordinary in the UK. Just type in electric shower online! Hope that helps. For regular vids please subscribe. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching!
twn because usa homes have piss weak electrics for a start,and if your boiler breaks youre fucked
If the shower is on its own ring, what’s the purpose of the isolator installed between DB and shower?
i can answer the shower is radial and stated in the 18th edition wiring regulations in chapter 5 in 537: (Every circuit / installation must be provided with a method of isolation from the supply. This isolation device should also be provided with a method to prevent unintentional or inadvertent reinstating (usually lockable).
just purchased a mira deca dual 10.8kw shower , that also shows pushfit fitting inside unit . do you follow the instructions or fit a compression fitting
Either will work, but make sure you use some Boss White Universal paste for pottable water systems 👍
I used a push fit and it works fine.....but make sure it's on properly! Best of luck.
Ok to use Bose White for compression fittings, but not for Speed Fit, or Hep 2o fittings.
@@davidmeerloo8941 the guy uses speedfit in this video!
good installation using quality electric water shower may i know the exact brand you used sir?
It's in the title, and I mention it in the video. It's a Mira Go. Screwfix and B&Q sell it. Best of luck.
Thanks for the video. Did you draw your cable through before or after the tiling, how did you route if from the consumer unit, and did you bring it in from above or below?
Hi David, I drew the cable through before the tiling was done. I brought it from my consumer unit, through the ceiling in my hall and down the wall to a double pole 60Amp isolation switch just out side the bathroom (the red switch in the video), then back up to the ceiling, across the bathroom ceiling and down the wall behind the shower. Before I did the bathroom, I made a stud wall with a void a few inches thick behind the shower which allowed me to hide my plumbing and shower cable behind the wall. If you are retro fitting the cable, it can be tricky as the floor boards upstairs may need to come up! Hope that explanation helps. Thanks for your question and thanks for watching.
Thank you for your reply.
No problem!
do triton 30i takes water in by it self? or it needs additional pressure from water cable?
eh ?????
@Anita - Not sure sorry. Thanks for watching.
Anyone tell me how did he connect the water pipe joint to the shower machine? Did he use pushing pipe method or did he push the water part of the machine into the water pipe joint directly?
I used a push fit connector - JG Speedfit. However you can use a compression fitting also but it depends on the shower you are installing and it will tell you what to use in the instructions. Best of luck with it.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE thank you
where did he connect the other end of the electric cable to. thanks
According to the IET wiring regulations bs 7671 the electric shower should be connected to a 45 amps double pole switch and the cable size must be 6 mm twin and earth and to be 45 rating amp rcd protected from the consumer unit
Hi Richard, it's directly fed to the consumer unit, on it's own supply protected by a 40amp MCB, which is additionally protected by an RCD and I used a 10mm twin and earth cable which was probably a bit overkill but allows me to use a high rated shower in the future. I explained this at the beginning of the video. Thanks for watching.
nice
Thanks for watching.
Hi, I live in a bungalow and am considering having an electric shower installed over my bath, could you advise please?
Hi Julie, firstly if you watch the video throughout it pretty much explains what you need to consider, however as all showers and domestic electrical set ups vary, I can't advise specifically. If you're unsure my advise is employ an electrician that knows what they are doing. Water and electric can be dangerous! Good luck and thanks for watching!
POUSE around the HOUSE ok thank you for replying.
Hi I have had an electric shower on my bathroom wall for over 3 years now (opposite side to taps) but not connected the people who done it got through half the work to then say it wasn't possible as I haven't got the right Ashleigh breaker so have the shower but not finished will it ever be able to be done?
I cant believe these stuff are water proof
Could you do a video on where you connected the water pipe from??
Maybe in the future. You have to break into your main cold water supply. Thanks for watching.
I need that my shower freezing af
Can some one help I have a Mira shower fitted for my disabled husband and it keeps beeping so I have to turn it off . How do I reset it and how long will it take ? Many thanks
Not sure on that one, obviously depends on the model. If you go on the mira website they may have instruction manuals to download which may help. Hope you get it sorted. Thanks for watching!
I think it demonstrates great respect for your viewers that you reply to new comments on a video over a year old.
Could be a issue with the low water pressure
Could anyone please tell if the elec cable is too short.. needs extending in order to be connected to shower,what materials do i need?please itemise. Thanks in advance.
You would need a suitable junction box to extend the cable. It would have to rated at the correct power to take the high current of a shower. Your existing cable may also need upgrading as many old shower cables are inadequate for modern showers. You also need to ensure it is protected by the correct MCB in the consumer unit and make sure it has RCD protection. If you're unsure of this I'd recommend getting an electrician to do it for you. They will test it to make sure it's safe. Don't mess around with a shower if you unsure about what your doing and remember to check all the work complies with Part P of the building regulations (in the UK). Thanks for watching.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE how do u check the amperage of the existing cable from the consumer unit to see what rated shower one can get ? ( if not labeled on the CU ) voltage meter while the fuse is on ?
@@girlsdrinkfeck Get an electrician, it ain't worth burning your house down to save a few quid.
you shudnt extend , you need to run a full piece of appropriate cable usually 10mm from shower to the pull cord for the shower , which then runs back to the main board .
You explain it very well BUT, does the shower actually work. Didn't see the functionality test, and perhaps better with someone in it, lol.
No one needs to see me showering!! But yes it does indeed work. Thanks for watching.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE I thought you might want to employ a lady DIYer. I certainly wasn't suggesting that you should be seen naked, no disrespect intended, perhaps, lol.
But, thanks for you reply.
WOW
Thank you for creating and sharing your video. Watching it made me think about getting one for our vacation home in continental Europe. We have not seen electric showers there, none of the stores know that these even exist, makes me think there is a reason. However it is just an electrical appliance that needs the correct electrical setup and a water supply, so theoretically we could? but i'm not a professional so best not to assume. What are your thoughts, do you know if these can be installed abroad or are they made only for here?
You would have to find one that is designed for the correct voltage. In the UK we use 240volts / 230volts and these units are commonly used here. Also each country, and possibly region will have it's own building regulations or codes regarding things like this so you would need to check if it is compliant. To do that you would need to peak to a building control officer (or equivalent in that country). Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
How do I do the pipework from bath to shower? Your pipework was already done.
You need to break into your existing cold water supply using a tee piece, then take a length of pipe from that to your shower. Don't forget to put an isolation valve in before it gets to the shower. You can isolate the water to the shower in the future then without turning the rest of your water off. Thanks for watching!
POUSE around the HOUSE Can you do a video on that?
When the job arises I will indeed film it but may be a while.
POUSE around the HOUSE Thank you.
What about homes with 2 pipes? Cold & hot
You only need a cold feed on an electric shower. If you have a hot feed you are not using you could cap it off or cut it back to the main pipe feed to avoid water staying stagnant in the pipe. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
If you already have cold and hot water then you can use mixer shower.
@@skinnyniggawidfatbelly7212surely that depends on your plumbing system and water pressure
Instead of using a hoover when drilling, try using an envelope mate, open envelope and use a bit of masking tape to tape it to wall/tiles underneath your drill hole and drill....... Watch it all nicely go into the envelope, try it pal 👌
Hi again, I already use that method if I'm working in a carpeted room. You can see me use that method in my following video - How to use wall plugs - ua-cam.com/video/WrVr6KbTNac/v-deo.html. Thanks for the feedback and the tips.
POUSE around the HOUSE seriously though pal, considering you're not qualified in what you're doing, I've got to admit, you know your shit pal, what is your actual trade?
Is it ok to use wall sockets power supply for it…?
No.
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Getting behind the wall is the problem, when it is solid concrete ???
Hi ally, I also have a brick wall. To overcome this I created a stud wall by using 3 vertical wooden 2"x3" lengths of wood secured to the wall, then I fixed plasterboard to that. This gave me a 2 inch gap behind the plasterboard to do my pipework and electrics and gave me the clean look I wanted. The downside is you loose about 2.5" of depth to you bathroom but the finished result is a lot slicker than exposed pipe work and cable in trunking down the wall. I also boxed all my waste pipes in so nothing is on display. You can see this in my other videos:
How to tile a bathroom floor - ua-cam.com/video/y75e479ups0/v-deo.html
How to tile a bathroom/shower wall - ua-cam.com/video/gk1yWnjL0YY/v-deo.html
Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
Thanks we just moved ,and was wondering what kind of work needed done, I see there is a lot to be considered. Not be doing the work myself thanks a LOT.
I was told that you really need a 10.5 kwh to have a good shower, is that right?.
The more powerful the better I guess. Mine is fine but compared to some modern showers it's probably not as good. That said it's fine for me but it is also my second bathroom so not used that frequently.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE Cheers
In the summer, where the water is tepid, you can get away with 7.5 - 8.5KW. But in the winter, where the water is freezing, you really need a 10.5 for a decent shower.
Trouble is getting an electrician to do it ! You need 16mm cable and a 50 amp fuse. 🤣 new circuit very likely and expensive. You might also overload your board so reconfigurations needed so more sparky time and money. That said i chuck my mira sprint 10.5kw on a 10mm and a 40 amp breaker and make sure no insulation around cable run. All works fine for years.
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You could connect cable behind pipe for better look
This is not on display
2021
Thanks for watching.
Excellent video, excellent pants. But what team does he support tho?
Don't you need a neon light on your isolating switch
Not really, just let's you know the switch is on, but then so does the down position on mine. Thanks for watching.
Who is local authority
Jahangir Haydar nobody nice pooping street
What does this thing do? It pumps the water out of the wall so you can shower yourself? Why is this done electrically? Why have wall electrified device inside the shower where it is wet? I'm so confused?
Hi juxtn, here in the UK one of the showers we use is the electric shower. This type of shower heats the water instantly so that hot water is always available even if the boiler is broken. They are made to strict standards, they are sealed from the water so the electrical parts should stay dry. They also have to be installed by someone who is competent or qualified to do so. There are very strict guidelines on how to do it including cable size, cable protection, and fuse rating in relation to the power of the shower. We also use what is called a Residual Current Device (RCD). This is basically a trip switch that in the event of water touching an electrical part, it will cut all the power supply and protect you from an electric shock. I guess if you don't use them in your country, I can see why it would look a bit dangerous! What country are you from out of curiosity? Thanks for your question and thanks for watching!
are you from Newport?
it sounds like you are :-)
I might be, but which Newport?! Thanks for watching.
POUSE around the HOUSE the one next to the capital city I live in :-)
you're welcome
Has no one mentioned about the push fit elbow onto the actual shower? That elbow should be a compression elbow which will never blow off if fails. Compression joints will only drip if fail. When a push fit joint fails,it might blow off, water+electrics=bang
I am a plumber btw.
I thought the same but the shower instructions said a push fit can be used on this product. I use speedfit which has the additional turn feature to help lock it in place. Thanks for watching.
I agree. Normally they are compression fittings, definitely with Triton. You can't fit the speed fit or Hep 2o pipe inserts into the plastic shower fitting. The inserts are a must if using Speed fit or Hep 2o.
Tempting people to do DIY electrics in a shower room, is this ok with building regulations, can this be safe ?
Hi Al, I fully understand your concerns and I thought about this before posting the video. I often see people on forums asking how to install showers and they go on to explain they have done some of the wiring already and it is usually completely wrong and dangerous. The advise from members on the forum is usually 'get a sparky' or something over complicated and often incorrect, probably from apprentice electricians that have been taught all the theory and had no experience. I think if someone is determined to have a crack at wiring, they will do it regardless of the rules which I know and agree is wrong. In the video I fully explain the requirements under building regs and the options available to installers. I also explain how to fit a shower safely, so if anyone follows my example like for like, at least I know their installation will be safe which is important. Unfortunately there are loads of houses all over the UK (and other countries no doubt) that have dangerously wired showers. Even showers installed correctly in the 90's will now be considered unsafe if they have no RCD protection and potential upgrades to more powerful showers in the meantime on the same cable.
There is also another reason for me explaining the process. Firstly, many people will watch the video hoping to do the job themselves, and when they see the additional safety upgrades required from their old shower (i.e thicker cable, RCD protection, new isolation switch etc) they will actually be deterred and employ an electrician. Secondly, many people message me who have no intention of carrying out work themselves, they just want a fair representation of what is required for a job so that they can obtain a fair quote from a builder. This is something that is important to me as I don't think tradesman should take advantage of people with little experience.
So in brief, no I don't think it is encouraging people to do it, I think they have already decided to do it, hence they have come and found my video. At least if my video is followed, the installation will be safe and hopefully no one will be hurt. I hope this answers your question. Thanks for your question and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the reply. Electrics in bathrooms is notifiable to local building control - a legal requirement of The Buildings Act 2010. Non notified and non certificated electrics can cause unforseen civil law difficulties when selling or renting a house. Breaking UK Acts can be prosecuted via criminal legislation. Hope your safe - in more ways than one !
Hi Al, I state all of that at the start of the video. I made sure it was clear for viewers that they must be competent to work on electrics, and will need sign off by either a qualified registered electrician or a building control officer following a building regs notification. Hope that helps.
WOT, no safety specs when drilling tiles! The glaze is like glass when it splinters off...
Fair point, always wear your safety specs...even if I sometimes forget! Thanks for watching!
How much it cost
I've put links below in the description section to the shower, all products and tools used in the video. Check it out! Thanks for watching.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE how long these units last for? I've had mine for 3 years.... And they started showing signs of wear and tear... Hardly any hot water coming out (low pressure and a mix of hot and cold). Could it be limescale? Many thanks for your vidéos
@@ElKoubi1975 if your kettle gets filled with limescale then so, I very much suspect, will your shower. However, I don't live in that type of environment so I'm not qualified to advise on the solution. You might find that you can buy a product that can filter the water as it comes into the house, which would prolong the life of all your waterborne appliances. Try changing the shower head first to see if that helps, as it is cheap enough to start.
Come on we should see it going full beans I feel I’ve been shortchanged
You missed out 1 major thing, all showers etc need bled b4 using
Alright Mr professional why u watching this if u already know
Pretty sure he did at the start?
@@Josh-bq9sm😂 love it
Nice, but the shower head above the heater? I mean, I know it is splash proof but...ok.
240 volt live wires next to shower spray?
The shower is designed to be water proof. These showers are common place in the UK. Thanks for watching.
steve no ones died in the 3+ decades they have been used
Showers are IPX4, water tight
unless you smash it with a hammer and put your hand inside ..u shud be fine !
Farooq Shah, OK, then it is safe.
Please stop this stupid music, otherwise excellent quality video
I have indeed stopped the 'stupid' music, as this video is very old now. Please watch my latest videos for music free DIY! Thanks for watching.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE NO I LOVE THE MUSIC!, please never get rid of the music, its your Signature !!!! :D
Fuck that using push fit any where near a cable drawing 11.6 amps all the time when turned on.
Hi everyone one question I need to know ASAP, I'm no electrician or plumber and certainly wouldn't touch a electric shower with a barge pole but a friend has just had one put in only she showed me the mess of the tiling they( two cowboys) had left after doing the disappearing act,
Nothing was level even the glass wall cabinet wasn't level (she put a deodorant can on top of it and it rolled off and fell to the floor! > now you have a mini idea how bad they left her bathroom in then one thing that concerns me 110% when i noticed these Pr*cks had cut a hole in the top of the shower wall mounted section with what must have been a hacksaw with the grey twin+earth wire's feeding the unit it (the wiring) was inside a length of what looked like 20-25mm trunking self adhesive type only it hasn't even stuck to the "so-called tiling job" because the tiling was so bad each tile was not flush with the one next to it "they were sitting proud of each other and the same trunking has then been cut off at ceiling hight probably again with a hacksaw because the edges are rough were the cut has been made and you can see them going up. Into the loft because this trunking is cut 1/4" short of ceiling hight then you can visibly see the wire's going inside the shower body (the wall mounted section) even though they had tried to cut this trunking flush on top of the wall mounted section of this new shower now she has a (handmade cut out on the wall mounted section of this shower unit) and next to this is a another open entrance point about the same size as the trucking next to it (what they had cut out )and if I remember rightly in my opinion was this entrance point was a factory made on the body of the shower but in my opinion this opening shouldn't be left open and exposed to the out coming water from the shower head it should be closed off in some way, when I seen it after having a little peep (look) i said to her straight away "don't use that thing"it's a death trap!
Then she said " we have been and its not that bad but we have to turn the taps on in the sink because the water gets too hot and it's the only way to cool it down and I've just seen a comment on another video saying "don't use push fit on a shower (the Cowboys have) they have had the bath taken out again I said "well I certainty wouldn't" use the shower even if you have no bath but she now suggested putting silicone over these two areas open to the water just for a bit of what she calls (a peace of mind) (thinking it with solve things)" blocking them off so no water or splashes can get inside,
I know it's not my house but I can't stop thinking of it "even though someone has said to me that it's not our house so don't interfere" what do any of you think because I'll show any of you're comments (if) I get one.
Thanks.
Well the instructions with the shower say push fit is acceptable but each to their own.
Gary - Sounds like a mess but that's all I can really add. Hope they get it all sorted in the end.
Never had a leak with a push fit alternative is compression, olive, PTFE tape and hope it’s ok!
Where did you get 11.6A from, the current would be much higher than that even with the smallest electric shower. And what difference does it make how much current it is drawing to its proximity to water - Answer = None! If you don't really know what you are talking about, don't comment!
Why are these so popular in the UK, don't you guys have natural gas mains and infinity systems?
Yes we have natural gas and some showers are fed from the boiler. But electric showers are still common place and by having one of each like me, if your boiler breaks you can use the electric shower instead. Thanks for watching.
@Michael Firecracker Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.
@Michael Firecracker as long the pressure stays adequate yes