What about the maintenance diesel team not even filling trucks up before a trip because they are lazy?? what about the room full of scuba gear not getting taken care of for the 6-7 months of the year we dont use them??? just tell the truth... we are completly oblivious.
it's not hard to tell the truth.... Our bosses have no balls... just tell the truth we in Canada. Not in a dictature where you cant talk and have to lie so we look more competent.. come on...
Me too mr ballin is the shiz but I’m glad I found you guys. I’m super claustrophobic and I’m glad I get your insight. Otherwise without commentary diving videos are otherwise boring
I'm not a diver, but I'm a chemist so it's weird hearing you guys talk about this down to the science and me understanding it in a different way. Love the channel, keep it up :)
I used to dive and I used to fly light planes. The lesson this video emphasized for me is : Don’t gloss over your checklist and never miss a step. The function of the checklist is to fill in those gaps in human memory. Procedure is important. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure .
@ David Zakrzwicz I got my private pilot's license through a Navy flying club when I was a civilian employee. My instructors had lots of hours in military flying and demanded i always use the checklists. They did too, leading by example. Cutting corners sooner or later ends badly.
>I used to fly light planes . Your flight training prepared you well for diving. Dad iL was very eccentric - a life full of the usual excesses of people who were young in the 50s & 60s. Ex RAF but was a top dressing pilot and one of very few who lived until retirement in NZ. The reason? Never, never, ever missed his checks. (Long career so rare they made a doc about him)
I actually worked for a former Canadian Navy diver, he was a Captain when he left the service. He was not involved in this incident but told me about it. They were doing a practice run for a big wig display the following day of all their different dive systems (open circuit and rebreathers for stealthily approaching "enemy" ships). Apparently they were delayed due to other preparations on the land, laying out equipment for a static display, earlier in the day for the practice dive so they kinda rushed things, skipping some checklists. The military is super anal retentive about checklists, but when you rush, mistakes are made and checks are skipped and it lead to this young mans death. The guy I worked for was stationed on the west coast when the incident happened so he got the after action report and lessons learned memos to use to train his staff/divers.
I remember this EXTREMELY well, as my ex was in the FDU, (Fleet Diving Unit, Shearwater NS) a Clearance Diver and Stephane was a good friend of his. I thought he was also on that dive yet not mentioned (Tremblay). This incident was haunting. This is a re-enactment isn't it?
I was recently (artificially) narc'd and the drunk analogy is so accurate and also very inaccurate. The feeling is similar however when you're drinking you KNOW that's why you're buzzed. I knew about nitrogen narcosis through guys like you, general knowledge of blood gas behaviors through academia, and was literally told what would happen by the expert who accompanied us in the decom chamber. I knew what to expect and thought I'd think "oh so this is being narc'd" once it hit. But despite knowing all that beforehand I still didn't get it when it was happening. Only after that did I understand why experienced divers have been narc'd and not realised it's time to leave.
Wow! Thanks for sharing. I have wondered because I’ve read about or seen videos of divers who were narc’d continue on until their death instead of trying to get to the top. This explains why perfectly. A couple videos I’ve seen make a whole lot more sense now.
@@BS-dq1kz it works differently on everyone. It's never the Dawn experience for anyone. Some people can't handle 20 feet. Some people can handle up to 500 to 700 feet without getting Narc'd
@@xxae-chaaxx3445 I assume everyone gets narc’d and some people can control themselves in that state of mind to different levels. So they will still get Narced just that they are able to recognize it and stay alert anyway
@@xxae-chaaxx344510000% false. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Don’t give out false information that fuckin gets people killed, you dolt.
Please don't apologize. Ignore those that don't like it when you stop the video. I absolutely love it. You explain things that otherwise no one would understand
When Woody was bragging about Gus' explanation I had to smile. I have been a subscriber for a long time and while not a diver I have always loved the water(to the point my mom could never get me out of the bathtub let alone the pool!). I appreciate your professionalism and knowledge(We have all noticed the quality improving constantly..and I want Woody's fancy shirt!), but honestly guys I think most of the subscribers would watch you two talk about the technical aspects of watching paint dry! Your personalities are both so fun which really makes the videos for me, as well as your obvious expertise.
Thanks. We are always trying to improve with these videos and frankly with our diving and diving knowledge. For example I just listened to Simon Mitchell’s explanation of what happened to David Shaw. So when I said “he was alone” in fact he was alone at that depth and the scientific explanation of what happened was fascinating and I want our follow up video to include Simon’s explanation.
please dont apologies for interrupting - you dont just react you explain stuff which needs focus to get a point across so i really enjoy that you pause and explain its a total different way of reacting :3 and i like it
Damn I've been binging your videos for a couple of days, and now I see you've covered this case: Stephan was my second cousin's father. Sadly I never met him (this happened a couple of months after my cousin and I were born) but really nice to have divers' opinions on what happened.
I think y’all should stop the video MORE! Lol in all seriousness, I come here to listen to you guys and your perspective so I can learn and be a better diver. Keep it up guys 🤙🏼.
Feelings mutual just getting into open water diving and love learning by from you guys on what to and not to do! Amazing channel keep up the great work 🙏🏻
Exactly! Love the talk, you’re both so knowledgeable and always have something interesting and educational to add. You guys have got such a great rapport too, it’s just fun listening to you both chat about what you’re passionate about!
I'm a 15 year old kid whose been around water his whole life. I've swam and snorkeled for over 3/4 of my life, but have never dove. These videos make me want to dive! You guys do a great job of explaining what's happening as well as what should happen and what could happen. Thanks for making these videos, congrats on 10k and keep up the amazing work!
Love this, I love snorkelling myself. Scuba is a fin too far for me. I'll stay close to the surfaceI I think. Each time you go into the water, just before you get in, think of Gus n Woody, and triple check plse. Stay safe and live your dreams❣ PS AIm for your dive rescue certificate too. Could save a life and there would be no better feeling I reckon.
12:00 that part was super nice to see. People need to be this respectful to each other way more in life. Great video again both of you. Really glad I subbed.
Exactly what I thought! Good to see a student using the knowledge bestowed unto them by their wonderful teacher AND even cooler to know that Woody (Gus’s former instructor) to be able to sit and listen to his former student give out all this knowledge! Both very intelligent and awesome Divers!
@@jamierose7712 I always thought absolutely not, because truthfully it really scares me, but these videos have given me pause. Maybe I could. I'd want to be trained by someone like Woody though!
@@rustwitch. you definitely should. It’s such an amazing experience. Go somewhere reputable and do a “try scuba” course just to see if you’d like it, then go from there.
I remember hearing an old master chief telling this story on the mess decks one night on my first deployment. He wasn’t in the navy at the time, but his first lcpo was there when this happened. He used the story to warn the junior sailors who were talking about wanting to be divers, a cautionary tale. It’s a sad story, but kinda cool that I found it here.
Pause as often as you want...you both always add valuable, humorous and interesting facts!! If i didnt want the pausing I would watch the original video and not learn anything. Keep up the great content!
I’m so confused. How come someone didn’t just immediately jump in and grab him? They knew he was there 10 seconds ago. Couldn’t someone have just jumped in and immediately have grabbed him??? It seems like they wait forever to send in the rescue guy
He could have been suffering from oxygen deficiency and not fully inflated his bcd, could possibly even have deflated his bcd in confusion and could have sank pretty quickly, even if you were in the water 10 seconds after you noticed the diver was not on the surface it could be difficult to catch him, we also don't know what the visibility was like. You will disappear in a split second in poor viz, Literally take your eye off your buddy for a moment, turn back and they are gone.
This channel has helped me a lot. I’m no diver. Not to much into it either. But these two make such good content im addicted ! And have some weird sentimental grasp on these two. There good energy and vibes are getting me through some really bad health problems, so that must be why, thank you so much for the content. Edit- i also love people who make content for people to help them from danger. So for that I thank you two for your service ! Love from canada
Hey guys. I'm a big fan and love watching your videos. My dad use to be a diver, with thousands upon thousands of hours of diving. He did everything from diamond diving off the Skeleton Coast, diving shipwrecked for the museum, to rescue diving. So know that I have a lot of respect for you guys. Now with this video. If I may make a recommendation. When you guys do stop the video, which is necessary, I would recommend rewinding just a little bit before playing again. This may lead to less confusion. I had to rewatch parts of the video again, to make more sense of it. This is not a critique but an observation that may help with future videos.
Just gotta say as a non diver, I really appreciate all the explanations. It makes it so much more interesting to watch! Thanks for you’re time and effort making all these videos.
My dad is a long-time diver and even worked for about a decade on the dive team for our PD. I could never get certified cause I don’t do well the instant my face and mouth get covered. I panic and I knew it was too risky to even consider doing it because I’m also terrified of open water of all kinds so those two things coupled together didn’t seem worth trying to fight against every time I went under. I knew I’d eventually lose and potentially cost lives other than my own. So I still worry every time I know my dad is going down. I appreciate you guys so much for going out of your way to encourage safety and caution at ALL times in every situation. You guys have a respect for the water and the deadly potential that exists around every turn and at every minute and that is, in my opinion, the first thing any diver must know and respect. I’ve been binging your videos. Thank you so much for the content! Stay safe! ❤️❤️❤️
Y’all two complement each other so well. I’ve never been addicted to two guys talk about something so much. And I don’t even dive! Not yet at least… Also woody is so freaking knowledgeable. I bet he is an amazing teacher. I still love you too Gus!
Woody, as a professionell Pilot for over 45 years I love how extremely observant you are truly and how serious the two of you go about diving! As a not yet diver, I love your highly educational show: Learn from the best best and never quit learning was my philosophy in flying and obviously it is the very same here. Learning from the best is what my butt saved a few times. I lost many good pilot friends over the years and I contribute my survival to the fact of using check lists, knowing the systems insight out plus 80% of a successful flight/dive is proper planning including options a/b & c and knowing the limitations of your plane/gear, but most of all properly judging your own limitations!
"Squeaky wheel gets the grease" I watch the videos for YOUR commentary. Anyone who wants to watch the original without it being stopped should watch the original. To be honest, I don't really find the original videos to be that interesting without the commentary. If you just re-uploaded videos with minimal commentary or stopping, you might be subjected to more frequent and legitimate copyright claims, as well as questions around what you contribute to the video.
Found you guys by Mr.Ballen video. However, since coming here I have found your content interesting and educational. I work as a respiratory therapist and understand all the science of breathing and it is great. Thanks for all the information and great commentary!
The amount of glee I felt when I saw y'all post a new reaction video is irrational and slightly embarrassing since I'm not a diver...lol! Love y'all's content and congrats on the 10k subs!
Just found this channel; love the videos! As an anesthesiologist (and diver, open-water certified), I had to give a little extra physiology lesson on drive to breathe. You guys are absolutely right that CO2 buildup (and change in blood pH from that) is the usual drive to breathe. However, there is something called hypoxic drive as well. We have peripheral chemoreceptors that respond to low PaO2 (has to be very low, around 60mmHg before this happens, hence why it isn’t a factor in usual breathing). So, in cases where someone can ventilate (eliminate CO2) but not oxygenate (like a low FiO2 situation), they can develop this hypoxic drive to breathe and get into respiratory distress (not to mention the other physiologic effects of hypoxemia, leading to tissue hypoxia).
I don’t know anything about rebreathers, but I am an icu nurse, it does look at this point like hypoxia, however increased CO2 will cause a change in mental status and will cause you to pass out we do intubate patients with high CO2 to protect airway.
Just started watching this channel, and prefer it when u stop the video as its explaining to us who don't dive exactly whats going on,love the work u do
Hey Guys, I guess I understand viewers not liking when you hit pause,, but but to them go watch the history channel.. this is educational and they have to stop to point out issues for non-divers or just starting out in recreational diving. So Gus, Woody just keep on hitting that pause button. Most of us are here to learn, not just watching poor souls passing on… you guys rock 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Very interesting though tragic video. When you mentioned being careful not to get complacent with safety checks, it reminded me of a story about the Japanese railroad system and how they have this method of carefully "pointing and calling out" every safety step and it reduces errors by like 80% or some crazy amount...safety first!
Oh man, this is textbook poor human factors incident - and that textbooks is "Under Pressure" by Gareth Lock (the Human Diver guy). A bunch of military guys, afraid to say anything to a superior that something might be wrong, combined with the mentality that many so-called expert divers seem to have - "I am a professional diver, I don't need to do those drills and checklists, I've done them 1000 times". A combination of this and lack of simple check lists.... Another great video guys
I have a few friends who dive here in Canada. They have very little good to say about military and police diving practices/training up here to the point they are shocked more of them don't die. Also, stop the video all you want. That's what you and we are here for. I'm afraid of water (and heights) to the point I get nervous watching other people swim, so diving is forever out of the question for me but your content is incredibly interesting. Please keep up the great work.
Please you guys don't be sorry for stopping to explain. At least in my case I know nothing about cave diving, scuba gear, free diving etc, so it's really helpful when you stop and explain the lingo. It's the main reason I keep watching so many of your videos, they are informative, and entertaining and I just like your personalities! (I mean why click on a reaction video of you don't want to listen to reactions🤔😬)
I love it because I'm an Advanced Recreational Trimix Instructor but Woody still acts surprised when I explain something related to how gases behave underwater...like "Wow, very good Gus, you are such a great student", I'm like "Woody, I'm a Tec diving instructor bro" :D He definitely knows more than me about that stuff of course, and he's a much better instructor! Gus
@@DIVETALK Being able to explain concepts like hypoxia/hypercapnia and the function of a rebreather in a way that's palatable to non-divers is usually more impressive than just understanding them. It shows that you've really mastered the concept instead of just memorizing the information.
We need and come for the commentary, or we'd just watch the actual video. It's very helpful to us that don't dive or I'd have no idea what's going on. Great channel guys 😊
Hi guys...i stumbled in one of your vídeos...since then i saw 20+ plus videos of you guys...it makes me very interested of learning and practicing diving...much love from Portugal 💪💪
I would like to point out that even though some people do not like it when you guys stop the videos like this. I really appreciate it. You provide links to the videos if we want to watch it without your narrative. However, that is exclusively why I watch your channel and you have never paused the video and given information that has made me think, "Well, geez. What was the point of that?" I am not even a diver myself, so keep it up and don't let the haters bring you down! Keep informing, keep doing the good work you do best! I love all your videos and I have yet to see a single upload where you guys disappoint me, they are all so great! The only time I get upset is when I hear about some of these terrible / sad endings to stories that involve the death of our fellow adventurers. However, although it is so unfortunate and sad, I appreciate the fact you bring this stuff up to people. It's because of these stories, your added narrative, and these discsussions you have together that keep people safe and it just might help to save the life of another diver one day if it hasn't already. I wouldn't be surprised if it has! So, you press that pause button whenever you feel it is necessary and people like myself will listen happily!
Dont apologize for stopping the video! I know literally NOTHING about diving, I am terrified of the water and probably never will dive, but this is very cool and informative of yall! Honestly, youre probably saving some lives sharing this knowledge! So stop the video and say the things you need to say! One thing you say, can come to mind to someone diving in a desperate situation and it could save their life! Good job guys. Yall are cool.
I’m still absolutely terrified of the idea of diving (though I have anxiety in genera so that figures), but listening to you guys talk about it is so awesome.
so glad I discovered ur channel! Makes me want to learn how to dive! Although I’m so clumsy if I did I’d probably end up being the subject of one of ur videos😂
That made me laugh out loud, thats me too, a real cluts. I'd be the one kicking regulators out of mouths, finning you in the groin area😖 And, I'm your ultimate panic merchant when comes to water, and lack of air. I'll stick to the relatively harmless (unless meet shark, avoid dusk and dawn) snorkelling, and big air supply 😆
Don't be sorry about stopping the video to react and educate at the same time. I found this channel from watching Mr.Ballens channel and honestly with all of the cave stories (exploring, diving, etc.) I was like you aren't gonna find me diving in more than a pool. But the education you guys give and the rules of diving has made me feel way better and one of these days I'm going to take diving classes. 🥰
I am a viewer who previously commented on your stopping the video for comments. I honestly didn't understand the purpose of your channel. I thought we were just watching dive videos together. My apologies. I dove Puget Sund and Cozumel back in the 80's. Love your informative channel. 😊
“Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground over which it flows; the soldier works out his victory in relation to the foe whom he is facing.” - Sun Tzu Unfortunate we would never know who/what this “foe” was from this incident. But “fatigue” is unspeakable when you are in the military. No military will ever admit that fatigue is the cause of death in training. This indeed is a formidable “foe”, deep-rooted in military mindset forever. I recall blacking out once while on a battalion exercise. And many of my company mates did as well. Those who did not, told us that even they themselves were just too tired to think, or eat. And this was ON LAND!
im glad that you guys acknowledge that you have viewers that have never dove before / arent even into diving and explain things that you say experienced divers would obviously already know. it forsure helps alot.
Indeed, those checklists exist for a reason, the most knowledgeable and experienced experts are still human. Watch some of the plane crash investigations - the number of incidents that would've been prevented had some 4000+ hour pilot not missed one simple thing because instead of using the list, they just did it in their head.
These guys got me interested in the logistics and thrill of diving. I don’t dive myself yet - mostly due to the fact I consider myself too young to commit to anything - but there is something marvellous about learning more about recreational, professional, and every other sort of diving and its implications and inherent dangers, alongside its many upsides. For that learning, I come here, to hear both of you guys’ commentaries. Both Woody and Gus are excellent in their fields and extremely insightful. You guys should never have to apologise for teaching us something here and there whenever you happen to pause the video. Keep it up guys… this stuff is phenomenal!
Former US Army here, there’s an important bit at the beginning you didn’t notice/decide to comment on. They said an Admiral was coming and they were prepping for “the usual dog and pony show.” Basically, everyone in their unit is trying to make everything LOOK as good as possible for the Admiral. That means everyone was trying to make their job area look perfect, and DEFINITELY not paying as much attention as usual to a routine dive.
Yes, that is so true. When I was stationed in Korea, we had a Division Change of Command the week before we went to FOAL EAGLE Division FTX, and I knew something was going to go very wrong. I could just feel it, because the soldiers weren’t mentally prepared to go to the field. And we lost one of our men at the end of the FTX when an M1 Abrams tank was passing by our soldier who was on the asphalt roller. The road gave way beneath the roller, and the roller toppled over on top of my soldier and smashed him to pieces in the ditch by the Imjin River. It was horrific. Eighteen years old and dead because of the dog and pony shows that literally nobody except the commanders care about. The whole FTX was a giant clusterfuck because almost nobody’s head was in it, and that’s what led to that dreadful mistake.
That was my first thought too. There should be (imho) less stress on optics when the brass is there to observe and more emphasis on completing the operation. Thank you for your service brother!
Former US Navy in my case, and have been a "dog and pony show" presenter. I can picture a specialized unit (like a dive unit) wanting to demonstrate their range of mission capabilities. This would naturally lead to demoing a wider than normal range of equipment on a single dive. Being an airborne unit, we did demo jumps, but thankfully only one type of equipment (static line). Another unit did HALO, which was outside our mission. It blows my mind, though, to have a standby diver without his weight belt on and having checked his tank pressure.
Commenting before I even watch this video because I’ve been binging all of the other ones and this content is amazing. Starting my scuba certification next week and I’m excited to join the diving community!
I don't get this, can someone help me out? They said it's 15ft, is that just how far they went down, but the actual floor is much deeper? Because even as a non-diver and pretty shit swimmer, I feel like I could hold my breath and go down and pull someone up. I'm confused.
Another awesome video! Dive Talk has become my favorite UA-cam channel, period. PS: I keep hoping every time I pop by SeaVentures for something I'll run into you two. Y'all are celebrity status with me, and keep inspiring me to push farther. Keep up the amazing content!
Thank you! I'll be there on July 15th, teaching the Nitrox class...I don't teach as often as Woody so if you haven't taken the Nitrox class that would be a good time to make it happen! Gus.
Stop apologizing for stopping the video please, I love hearing your guys' insight and commentary. If I wanted to just watch the video I would look it up. Feel free to stop when you want, and keep up the great content!
I'm only 8 minutes in, but I'm dying to know when, and if, they realize they're reacting to a reenactment video from the story the survivor is recounting... Not that listening to you react to the reenactment isn't packed with amazing information!
Came here looking to see if anyone else noticed this too. The first major clue this is the case is when in the video he's holding on to the boat before disappearing, but doesn't mean that is actually what happened, but the commentary made it to be that was a fact and a 'major' part of their analysis.
I have no intention of ever going diving, even snorkeling freaks me out and makes me hyperventilate, but I’m fascinated by these videos! So interesting and informative!
Yeah I’m not getting this at all. How does anyone drown at 15 feet with a group of divers aware and looking for them, let alone navy seals? It doesn’t make any sense. It’s 15 feet. That’s only 3 feet more than the deep end of most swimming pools.
Instead of apologizing for stopping every time you stop, consider a disclaimer at the start. Essentially "this is a reaction video and we will stop the video often. You can find a link to the original in the description." It is more distracting to hear the apologizing than the stopping But keep up the good work! I know nothing about diving but came here from a Mr Ballen video and now I'm hooked
Paige I love this idea. Gus let’s do this so people understand up front that we DEFINITELY will stop the video often to react as that’s the entire purpose of our channel. This is a fantastic idea!
I can’t believe they skipped so many checks. I was a Jumpmaster in the Army, and I’d never skip an inspection, skimp on an inspection, or fail to keep checking the gear of my soldiers and myself. I was terrified someone would die if I screwed up, and I didn’t want to also get in trouble with the Army for not doing the right thing. They could really bust you down for this sort of thing. You could lose your rank and even your freedom if found negligent.
Hello from Ottawa Canada. I did some research into this unfortunate event and since this was an unofficial training exercise no information can be found nor would they ever release it. Sometimes it's the family's wishes to keep things private. Love your videos!
Don't worry about stopping the videos to commentate, that's the whole reason I'm here. You guys have a real knack for breaking these situations down in a way us non divers can understand, even the really technical parts of diving.
Id jump into 15 feet of water without a tank if my brother or someone was sinkong even if just to shake them awake or release weight from theor body ect cant beleive nobody was ready to immediately jump in and grab him
My wife (non-diver) and I enjoy your channel. My son and I are both only Master Divers and have been diving mostly Minnesota lakes since 2016 when we first received our Open Water Certifications.
I’m hard of hearing, specifically with an audio processing disorder (hear the sounds but brain doesn’t recognize the pattern of sounds as specific words). Stopping the video makes it so I can actually hear you. When two different sounds happen at once I get confused. And also, you plus the viewers would miss what happens while you’re talking. It doesn’t make sense for anyone to not pause the video if the point is to comment on it, imo. Thank you for stopping the videos to speak
@Andy Darling, I have an auditory processing disorder too. So many people think they just need to talk louder at me, and don't realize how hard it is for me to understand them when there are multiple conversations taking place around me. I agree, I really do appreciate when Woody and Gus stop a video to explain what's going on and give commentary.
Thank you guys for explaining it to us and my prayers and thoughts go out to all the divers and their loved ones and stay safe while you're diving in the water.
My mom was an instructor in Monterey and the women used to pay me because they were so cold and exhausted when they got out they couldn’t even haul their gear up the beach and some of them couldn’t even get out of the surf crawling on their hands and knees and they would pay me to help them I was only 10 years old but I remember seeing some of these people and 5 feet of water panic and crazy things could happen and that was just in 5 feet on their way out I know that’s not relevant to this video but these are professionals but I was just thinking about depth and how anything can happen even a shallow depths! Thank you guys for your videos I’m not a scuba diver I never even got certified with my mom I was always scared of sharks in Monterey the visibility was so bad and all of the seaweed was everywhere and I watch Jaws way too much so I just want to say I know nothing about diving and I’m still hooked on all of your reaction videos please don’t say sorry for pausing the video that’s the best part if we wanted to watch the video we wouldn’t be watching a reaction video! Thanks
It's pretty obvious the video was a recreation of the events. Frankly, I would put little faith in how accurate the events were portrayed such as rope grabs and what was thrown except that which the host mentions.
Started with the mr.ballen reaction video and now im watching all your vids. Cool channel and learned Alot from you guys. New sub and much love from jacksonville florida.
the only reason i can come up with where the weight belt would be thrown in the water is to mark the bottom, other then that i don't know. My ultimate question is why didn't a couple guys jump into the water right away (even without the dive gear) grab the dude and swim him back up?, seems like alot of civilian type disorientation.
Well, on the video it seems like they helped the other two divers get on the Zodiac while the other diver was sinking to the bottom, so by the time they realized he was gone maybe a minute or two had gone by, the guy is also wearing all black and not easy to spot, so they could've jumped in and start freediving hoping for the best but I don't think it was a situation where they can see the guy but decided not to jump in anyway.
@@DIVETALK Not to mention just free diving in trying to help a diver would be against most rescue diver principles. The best a free diver could hope for is quickly finding a functional inflator to bring the distressed diver back to the surface. I'm not sure I'd risk that unless I was positive the distressed diver wasn't a panic risk and I could visually see them before jumping in. If I had a safety/rescue diver suited up ready to go, I'm sending them in and either calling emergency services or aiding the rescue from the boat as someone else calls it in.
hey you guys are great at what you do and i just wanted to let you know that even though a lot of us aren't divers and might not ever be, the way you present information is easily translatable to other skills/hobbies or whatever. I really love what you guys are doing and i'm really looking forward to what else you guys can bring to the table. Thanks again!
Hey Gus, Woody. I'm a Rec open water diver but not been in the water for a long time so will re take my refresher course before I dive again. I have watched lots of your videos and wanted to leave a comment In regard to this video. With regard to dropping the weight belt the thing that pops into my mind is if the diver sunk straight to the bottom maybe dropping the weight belt was to put a marker on the bottom in reference to where he went down. Then the rescue diver could have found the weight belt and then he knows he is roughly in the right spot and can start his sweep from them outwards. Just an Idea Keep up the videos guys great work. I am tempted to train on TRIMIX and also a rebreather now as I am keen to dive wrecks. 👍
As an ex-canadian navy and army member, I know they completely revamped the dive course and took extreme measures after this happened.
Wow thanks for telling us this. I’m glad they did.
What about the maintenance diesel team not even filling trucks up before a trip because they are lazy?? what about the room full of scuba gear not getting taken care of for the 6-7 months of the year we dont use them??? just tell the truth... we are completly oblivious.
it's not hard to tell the truth.... Our bosses have no balls... just tell the truth we in Canada. Not in a dictature where you cant talk and have to lie so we look more competent.. come on...
We even use old amo that stinks mold and shit.,.. like come on... dont picture us better than we actually are... we are a cheap skitt
Even our grenades are less powerfull than the big firework in walmart.. come on dude... be real to yourself and others... we suck
Found you guys through your Mr Ballen video - love the commentary
We are really glad you did. Thank you.
I found you guys through the same video!! Awesome stuff gentlemen!! 🤙🏽
Me too mr ballin is the shiz but I’m glad I found you guys. I’m super claustrophobic and I’m glad I get your insight. Otherwise without commentary diving videos are otherwise boring
Same found them today though Mr. Ballen
Same!
I'm not a diver, but I'm a chemist so it's weird hearing you guys talk about this down to the science and me understanding it in a different way. Love the channel, keep it up :)
Thank you!
I used to dive and I used to fly light planes. The lesson this video emphasized for me is : Don’t gloss over your checklist and never miss a step. The function of the checklist is to fill in those gaps in human memory. Procedure is important. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure .
Amen. Attention to detail.
@ David Zakrzwicz I got my private pilot's license through a Navy flying club when I was a civilian employee. My instructors had lots of hours in military flying and demanded i always use the checklists. They did too, leading by example. Cutting corners sooner or later ends badly.
I am stealing that phrase ✌😁
>I used to fly light planes . Your flight training prepared you well for diving.
Dad iL was very eccentric - a life full of the usual excesses of people who were young in the 50s & 60s. Ex RAF but was a top dressing pilot and one of very few who lived until retirement in NZ. The reason? Never, never, ever missed his checks. (Long career so rare they made a doc about him)
I use “Fail to prepare? Prepare to fail”
I actually worked for a former Canadian Navy diver, he was a Captain when he left the service. He was not involved in this incident but told me about it. They were doing a practice run for a big wig display the following day of all their different dive systems (open circuit and rebreathers for stealthily approaching "enemy" ships). Apparently they were delayed due to other preparations on the land, laying out equipment for a static display, earlier in the day for the practice dive so they kinda rushed things, skipping some checklists. The military is super anal retentive about checklists, but when you rush, mistakes are made and checks are skipped and it lead to this young mans death. The guy I worked for was stationed on the west coast when the incident happened so he got the after action report and lessons learned memos to use to train his staff/divers.
Oh wow, that’s cool!
I remember this EXTREMELY well, as my ex was in the FDU, (Fleet Diving Unit, Shearwater NS) a Clearance Diver and Stephane was a good friend of his. I thought he was also on that dive yet not mentioned (Tremblay). This incident was haunting. This is a re-enactment isn't it?
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I was recently (artificially) narc'd and the drunk analogy is so accurate and also very inaccurate. The feeling is similar however when you're drinking you KNOW that's why you're buzzed. I knew about nitrogen narcosis through guys like you, general knowledge of blood gas behaviors through academia, and was literally told what would happen by the expert who accompanied us in the decom chamber. I knew what to expect and thought I'd think "oh so this is being narc'd" once it hit. But despite knowing all that beforehand I still didn't get it when it was happening. Only after that did I understand why experienced divers have been narc'd and not realised it's time to leave.
Wow! Thanks for sharing. I have wondered because I’ve read about or seen videos of divers who were narc’d continue on until their death instead of trying to get to the top. This explains why perfectly. A couple videos I’ve seen make a whole lot more sense now.
@@BS-dq1kz it works differently on everyone. It's never the Dawn experience for anyone. Some people can't handle 20 feet. Some people can handle up to 500 to 700 feet without getting Narc'd
@@xxae-chaaxx3445 Wrong
@@xxae-chaaxx3445 I assume everyone gets narc’d and some people can control themselves in that state of mind to different levels. So they will still get Narced just that they are able to recognize it and stay alert anyway
@@xxae-chaaxx344510000% false. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Don’t give out false information that fuckin gets people killed, you dolt.
Please don't apologize. Ignore those that don't like it when you stop the video. I absolutely love it. You explain things that otherwise no one would understand
100%
When Woody was bragging about Gus' explanation I had to smile. I have been a subscriber for a long time and while not a diver I have always loved the water(to the point my mom could never get me out of the bathtub let alone the pool!). I appreciate your professionalism and knowledge(We have all noticed the quality improving constantly..and I want Woody's fancy shirt!), but honestly guys I think most of the subscribers would watch you two talk about the technical aspects of watching paint dry! Your personalities are both so fun which really makes the videos for me, as well as your obvious expertise.
Great comment! Thank you for your support!
Thanks. We are always trying to improve with these videos and frankly with our diving and diving knowledge. For example I just listened to Simon Mitchell’s explanation of what happened to David Shaw. So when I said “he was alone” in fact he was alone at that depth and the scientific explanation of what happened was fascinating and I want our follow up video to include Simon’s explanation.
The only show I've ever seriously binge watched was The Walking Dead, but I CANNOT STOP watching Dive Talk videos. It's bananas!
Thanks for using the apostrophe correctly on Gus'. As a grammar nazi I appreciate this a lot.
Same here, as far as the smile on my face when woody talked about basically how he proud he is if Gus. Really nice!
please dont apologies for interrupting - you dont just react you explain stuff which needs focus to get a point across so i really enjoy that you pause and explain its a total different way of reacting :3 and i like it
Damn I've been binging your videos for a couple of days, and now I see you've covered this case: Stephan was my second cousin's father. Sadly I never met him (this happened a couple of months after my cousin and I were born) but really nice to have divers' opinions on what happened.
Fred wow sorry to hear this but thanks so much for supporting us.
I think y’all should stop the video MORE! Lol in all seriousness, I come here to listen to you guys and your perspective so I can learn and be a better diver. Keep it up guys 🤙🏼.
I appreciate that
Feelings mutual just getting into open water diving and love learning by from you guys on what to and not to do! Amazing channel keep up the great work 🙏🏻
Your outfits and back lighting are looking very professional.
Thank you, we appreciate the comment and support.
It's called 'Dive Talk' if you didn't talk about diving I wouldn't be here 😂
Good point.
I’m not a diver( not water at least lol) and thought you guys reviewed dive bars but stayed for the interesting commentary. 😆 thanks!
Exactly! Love the talk, you’re both so knowledgeable and always have something interesting and educational to add. You guys have got such a great rapport too, it’s just fun listening to you both chat about what you’re passionate about!
@@DIVETALK Hate it when peops speak the obvious don't you haha
Peace🕊Collin4697 just my sense of humour😉
Gus, thank you for always explains things to us non divers. From someone who is scared of the ocean.
My pleasure! Glad you are watching these even though you are scared of the ocean :)
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I'm a 15 year old kid whose been around water his whole life. I've swam and snorkeled for over 3/4 of my life, but have never dove. These videos make me want to dive! You guys do a great job of explaining what's happening as well as what should happen and what could happen. Thanks for making these videos, congrats on 10k and keep up the amazing work!
Such an honor to have you watching. Thanks for the encouragement!
Love this, I love snorkelling myself. Scuba is a fin too far for me. I'll stay close to the surfaceI I think.
Each time you go into the water, just before you get in, think of Gus n Woody, and triple check plse.
Stay safe and live your dreams❣
PS AIm for your dive rescue certificate too. Could save a life and there would be no better feeling I reckon.
12:00 that part was super nice to see. People need to be this respectful to each other way more in life.
Great video again both of you. Really glad I subbed.
Well said!
Exactly what I thought! Good to see a student using the knowledge bestowed unto them by their wonderful teacher AND even cooler to know that Woody (Gus’s former instructor) to be able to sit and listen to his former student give out all this knowledge! Both very intelligent and awesome Divers!
I'm not a diver but this is one of my favorite channels. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! 💛
Wow, thank you!
you should try it. watching this channel made me want to go and try it. I did and i love it. so thanks for that guys
@@jamierose7712 I always thought absolutely not, because truthfully it really scares me, but these videos have given me pause. Maybe I could. I'd want to be trained by someone like Woody though!
@@rustwitch. you definitely should. It’s such an amazing experience. Go somewhere reputable and do a “try scuba” course just to see if you’d like it, then go from there.
I remember hearing an old master chief telling this story on the mess decks one night on my first deployment. He wasn’t in the navy at the time, but his first lcpo was there when this happened. He used the story to warn the junior sailors who were talking about wanting to be divers, a cautionary tale. It’s a sad story, but kinda cool that I found it here.
Thankyou for your service to your Country, respect
Pause as often as you want...you both always add valuable, humorous and interesting facts!! If i didnt want the pausing I would watch the original video and not learn anything. Keep up the great content!
I’m so confused. How come someone didn’t just immediately jump in and grab him? They knew he was there 10 seconds ago. Couldn’t someone have just jumped in and immediately have grabbed him??? It seems like they wait forever to send in the rescue guy
A lot of things make no sense with this accident, sadly.
Everyone's asking the same questions buddy.
When questions like this exist... becomes doubtful we're getting the complete story.
He could have been suffering from oxygen deficiency and not fully inflated his bcd, could possibly even have deflated his bcd in confusion and could have sank pretty quickly, even if you were in the water 10 seconds after you noticed the diver was not on the surface it could be difficult to catch him, we also don't know what the visibility was like. You will disappear in a split second in poor viz, Literally take your eye off your buddy for a moment, turn back and they are gone.
It's 15 ft. If no one's geared to go back in, why didn't someone just jump in without gear?
I haven’t even been snorkeling yet I love these videos and I have no clue why lol
Is it due to the insane levels of good looks from the hosts?...nevermind, that's not it...
Likewise bro! I cant even swim 😂. These videos make me wanna learn - yet these videos also make me wanna say “nah I’m good!” Lol
@@DIVETALK insane level of knowledge......................
@@Whatisahandlehuh definitely learn to swim!!! Even if you never go further than basic swim skills.
@@DIVETALK I believe you're correct! Woody is cute as a button, and Gus, wow. What can I say!
This channel has helped me a lot. I’m no diver. Not to much into it either. But these two make such good content im addicted ! And have some weird sentimental grasp on these two. There good energy and vibes are getting me through some really bad health problems, so that must be why, thank you so much for the content. Edit- i also love people who make content for people to help them from danger. So for that I thank you two for your service ! Love from canada
Hey guys. I'm a big fan and love watching your videos. My dad use to be a diver, with thousands upon thousands of hours of diving. He did everything from diamond diving off the Skeleton Coast, diving shipwrecked for the museum, to rescue diving. So know that I have a lot of respect for you guys.
Now with this video. If I may make a recommendation. When you guys do stop the video, which is necessary, I would recommend rewinding just a little bit before playing again. This may lead to less confusion. I had to rewatch parts of the video again, to make more sense of it.
This is not a critique but an observation that may help with future videos.
Great suggestion!
I never dislike your pauses. As a non-diver I find every time you guys pause to be filled with critical safety-centered insight. Keep it up!
Just gotta say as a non diver, I really appreciate all the explanations. It makes it so much more interesting to watch! Thanks for you’re time and effort making all these videos.
We appreciate this. It’s a balance of saying too much or too little because we want non divers to follow along as well.
My dad is a long-time diver and even worked for about a decade on the dive team for our PD. I could never get certified cause I don’t do well the instant my face and mouth get covered. I panic and I knew it was too risky to even consider doing it because I’m also terrified of open water of all kinds so those two things coupled together didn’t seem worth trying to fight against every time I went under. I knew I’d eventually lose and potentially cost lives other than my own. So I still worry every time I know my dad is going down.
I appreciate you guys so much for going out of your way to encourage safety and caution at ALL times in every situation. You guys have a respect for the water and the deadly potential that exists around every turn and at every minute and that is, in my opinion, the first thing any diver must know and respect.
I’ve been binging your videos. Thank you so much for the content! Stay safe! ❤️❤️❤️
Y’all two complement each other so well. I’ve never been addicted to two guys talk about something so much. And I don’t even dive! Not yet at least… Also woody is so freaking knowledgeable. I bet he is an amazing teacher. I still love you too Gus!
Just watched the rest of the video. Yea Gus is knowledgeable too
Woody, as a professionell Pilot for over 45 years I love how extremely observant you are truly and how serious the two of you go about diving!
As a not yet diver, I love your highly educational show: Learn from the best best and never quit learning was my philosophy in flying and obviously it is the very same here. Learning from the best is what my butt saved a few times. I lost many good pilot friends over the years and I contribute my survival to the fact of using check lists, knowing the systems insight out plus 80% of a successful flight/dive is proper planning including options a/b & c and knowing the limitations of your plane/gear, but most of all properly judging your own limitations!
"Squeaky wheel gets the grease"
I watch the videos for YOUR commentary. Anyone who wants to watch the original without it being stopped should watch the original. To be honest, I don't really find the original videos to be that interesting without the commentary.
If you just re-uploaded videos with minimal commentary or stopping, you might be subjected to more frequent and legitimate copyright claims, as well as questions around what you contribute to the video.
Agreed.
Exactly! Thank you! I hate when people complain about them stopping the video.
Found you guys by Mr.Ballen video. However, since coming here I have found your content interesting and educational. I work as a respiratory therapist and understand all the science of breathing and it is great. Thanks for all the information and great commentary!
The amount of glee I felt when I saw y'all post a new reaction video is irrational and slightly embarrassing since I'm not a diver...lol! Love y'all's content and congrats on the 10k subs!
Thanks Amanda!
Just found this channel; love the videos!
As an anesthesiologist (and diver, open-water certified), I had to give a little extra physiology lesson on drive to breathe. You guys are absolutely right that CO2 buildup (and change in blood pH from that) is the usual drive to breathe. However, there is something called hypoxic drive as well. We have peripheral chemoreceptors that respond to low PaO2 (has to be very low, around 60mmHg before this happens, hence why it isn’t a factor in usual breathing). So, in cases where someone can ventilate (eliminate CO2) but not oxygenate (like a low FiO2 situation), they can develop this hypoxic drive to breathe and get into respiratory distress (not to mention the other physiologic effects of hypoxemia, leading to tissue hypoxia).
I don’t know anything about rebreathers, but I am an icu nurse, it does look at this point like hypoxia, however increased CO2 will cause a change in mental status and will cause you to pass out we do intubate patients with high CO2 to protect airway.
I’m an icu nurse as well, amd was thinking the same thing. COPD (similar to emphysema) can cause problems if a pt is given too much oxygen.
Just started watching this channel, and prefer it when u stop the video as its explaining to us who don't dive exactly whats going on,love the work u do
Woody you're so sweet! So proud of Gus! It literally made my whole day 😂❤
Hey Guys, I guess I understand viewers not liking when you hit pause,, but but to them go watch the history channel.. this is educational and they have to stop to point out issues for non-divers or just starting out in recreational diving. So Gus, Woody just keep on hitting that pause button. Most of us are here to learn, not just watching poor souls passing on… you guys rock 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Very interesting though tragic video. When you mentioned being careful not to get complacent with safety checks, it reminded me of a story about the Japanese railroad system and how they have this method of carefully "pointing and calling out" every safety step and it reduces errors by like 80% or some crazy amount...safety first!
Thanks for the input here.
And it’s precisely why airline pilots are trained to do the same thing: calling out every step they do.
Oh man, this is textbook poor human factors incident - and that textbooks is "Under Pressure" by Gareth Lock (the Human Diver guy). A bunch of military guys, afraid to say anything to a superior that something might be wrong, combined with the mentality that many so-called expert divers seem to have - "I am a professional diver, I don't need to do those drills and checklists, I've done them 1000 times". A combination of this and lack of simple check lists....
Another great video guys
Thanks Mike!
Love these react video’s. Makes me more self aware of my diving and also of those who are diving with me.
Awesome
I have already learned so much from both of you. Thanks. I am a recreational rescue diver of 23 years.
They clearly threw the weights down in case he had regained consciousness in order to knock him back out.
Ha!
Yes, they learned that maneuver in turkey lifeguard school.
@@Phoenixhunter157 lol
Big thankyou for explaining the diving technicality for us non divers. It actually helps ALOT with understanding what is happening in the video
Thank you for watching!
I’m not a diver but I be Watchin all these videos! lol makes me wanna try something new!
I have a few friends who dive here in Canada.
They have very little good to say about military and police diving practices/training up here to the point they are shocked more of them don't die.
Also, stop the video all you want. That's what you and we are here for.
I'm afraid of water (and heights) to the point I get nervous watching other people swim, so diving is forever out of the question for me but your content is incredibly interesting. Please keep up the great work.
Thank you.
Woody's chair looks so freaking comfy
Oh it is!
IKR. We got a new couch 2 summers ago, grey leather, electric recline. I love it so much I named it Shawn..♥️💕
@@nicem8746 you cray cray
Woody be chillen.
@@nicem8746 😂😂😂
Please you guys don't be sorry for stopping to explain. At least in my case I know nothing about cave diving, scuba gear, free diving etc, so it's really helpful when you stop and explain the lingo. It's the main reason I keep watching so many of your videos, they are informative, and entertaining and I just like your personalities! (I mean why click on a reaction video of you don't want to listen to reactions🤔😬)
Awe 11:50 when woody compliments Gus that was so pure haha
I love it because I'm an Advanced Recreational Trimix Instructor but Woody still acts surprised when I explain something related to how gases behave underwater...like "Wow, very good Gus, you are such a great student", I'm like "Woody, I'm a Tec diving instructor bro" :D
He definitely knows more than me about that stuff of course, and he's a much better instructor!
Gus
@@DIVETALK the best duo 😍
@@DIVETALK Being able to explain concepts like hypoxia/hypercapnia and the function of a rebreather in a way that's palatable to non-divers is usually more impressive than just understanding them. It shows that you've really mastered the concept instead of just memorizing the information.
We need and come for the commentary, or we'd just watch the actual video. It's very helpful to us that don't dive or I'd have no idea what's going on. Great channel guys 😊
Thank you!
I’m not a diver but man is this channel good🙌🏼
Glad you think so Sebastian!
Hi guys...i stumbled in one of your vídeos...since then i saw 20+ plus videos of you guys...it makes me very interested of learning and practicing diving...much love from Portugal 💪💪
Congrats to 10.000 subscribers guys! 🎉
I would like to point out that even though some people do not like it when you guys stop the videos like this. I really appreciate it. You provide links to the videos if we want to watch it without your narrative. However, that is exclusively why I watch your channel and you have never paused the video and given information that has made me think, "Well, geez. What was the point of that?" I am not even a diver myself, so keep it up and don't let the haters bring you down! Keep informing, keep doing the good work you do best! I love all your videos and I have yet to see a single upload where you guys disappoint me, they are all so great! The only time I get upset is when I hear about some of these terrible / sad endings to stories that involve the death of our fellow adventurers. However, although it is so unfortunate and sad, I appreciate the fact you bring this stuff up to people. It's because of these stories, your added narrative, and these discsussions you have together that keep people safe and it just might help to save the life of another diver one day if it hasn't already. I wouldn't be surprised if it has! So, you press that pause button whenever you feel it is necessary and people like myself will listen happily!
By the time I go through all the videos you guys have uploaded, I will be a certified diver with how much information you guys give about diving lol
Dont apologize for stopping the video! I know literally NOTHING about diving, I am terrified of the water and probably never will dive, but this is very cool and informative of yall! Honestly, youre probably saving some lives sharing this knowledge! So stop the video and say the things you need to say! One thing you say, can come to mind to someone diving in a desperate situation and it could save their life! Good job guys. Yall are cool.
I’m still absolutely terrified of the idea of diving (though I have anxiety in genera so that figures), but listening to you guys talk about it is so awesome.
Awe Thanks Stevie
Diving is actually very peaceful and relaxing lol. It may help with your anxiety.
Please stop apologizing for stoping the video. We are here to listen to your reaction and commentary. Keep up the great work.
so glad I discovered ur channel! Makes me want to learn how to dive! Although I’m so clumsy if I did I’d probably end up being the subject of one of ur videos😂
Naaah...make it happen!
That made me laugh out loud, thats me too, a real cluts. I'd be the one kicking regulators out of mouths, finning you in the groin area😖
And, I'm your ultimate panic merchant when comes to water, and lack of air.
I'll stick to the relatively harmless (unless meet shark, avoid dusk and dawn) snorkelling, and big air supply 😆
Don't be sorry about stopping the video to react and educate at the same time. I found this channel from watching Mr.Ballens channel and honestly with all of the cave stories (exploring, diving, etc.) I was like you aren't gonna find me diving in more than a pool. But the education you guys give and the rules of diving has made me feel way better and one of these days I'm going to take diving classes. 🥰
Awesome and thanks!
ditto. verbatem, ditto.
Great work guys, woody needs to be doing quality control on the set of these re-enactments....hawkeye for the details
Absolutely
I always love it when you guys stop the video to provide input and context for us non-divers here.
I live in Halifax, Nova Scotia... just curious where this was. My uncle was a navy diver for years, I always found his stories amazing :)
I am a viewer who previously commented on your stopping the video for comments. I honestly didn't understand the purpose of your channel. I thought we were just watching dive videos together. My apologies. I dove Puget Sund and Cozumel back in the 80's. Love your informative channel. 😊
“Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground over which it flows; the soldier works out his victory in relation to the foe whom he is facing.” - Sun Tzu
Unfortunate we would never know who/what this “foe” was from this incident. But “fatigue” is unspeakable when you are in the military. No military will ever admit that fatigue is the cause of death in training. This indeed is a formidable “foe”, deep-rooted in military mindset forever. I recall blacking out once while on a battalion exercise. And many of my company mates did as well. Those who did not, told us that even they themselves were just too tired to think, or eat. And this was ON LAND!
im glad that you guys acknowledge that you have viewers that have never dove before / arent even into diving and explain things that you say experienced divers would obviously already know. it forsure helps alot.
Indeed, those checklists exist for a reason, the most knowledgeable and experienced experts are still human. Watch some of the plane crash investigations - the number of incidents that would've been prevented had some 4000+ hour pilot not missed one simple thing because instead of using the list, they just did it in their head.
These guys got me interested in the logistics and thrill of diving. I don’t dive myself yet - mostly due to the fact I consider myself too young to commit to anything - but there is something marvellous about learning more about recreational, professional, and every other sort of diving and its implications and inherent dangers, alongside its many upsides. For that learning, I come here, to hear both of you guys’ commentaries. Both Woody and Gus are excellent in their fields and extremely insightful. You guys should never have to apologise for teaching us something here and there whenever you happen to pause the video. Keep it up guys… this stuff is phenomenal!
Former US Army here, there’s an important bit at the beginning you didn’t notice/decide to comment on. They said an Admiral was coming and they were prepping for “the usual dog and pony show.”
Basically, everyone in their unit is trying to make everything LOOK as good as possible for the Admiral. That means everyone was trying to make their job area look perfect, and DEFINITELY not paying as much attention as usual to a routine dive.
Roger that...thank you for your service Jon.
Yes, that is so true. When I was stationed in Korea, we had a Division Change of Command the week before we went to FOAL EAGLE Division FTX, and I knew something was going to go very wrong. I could just feel it, because the soldiers weren’t mentally prepared to go to the field. And we lost one of our men at the end of the FTX when an M1 Abrams tank was passing by our soldier who was on the asphalt roller. The road gave way beneath the roller, and the roller toppled over on top of my soldier and smashed him to pieces in the ditch by the Imjin River. It was horrific. Eighteen years old and dead because of the dog and pony shows that literally nobody except the commanders care about. The whole FTX was a giant clusterfuck because almost nobody’s head was in it, and that’s what led to that dreadful mistake.
@@toscadonna so sorry to hear that. And thank you for your service.
That was my first thought too. There should be (imho) less stress on optics when the brass is there to observe and more emphasis on completing the operation.
Thank you for your service brother!
Former US Navy in my case, and have been a "dog and pony show" presenter. I can picture a specialized unit (like a dive unit) wanting to demonstrate their range of mission capabilities. This would naturally lead to demoing a wider than normal range of equipment on a single dive.
Being an airborne unit, we did demo jumps, but thankfully only one type of equipment (static line). Another unit did HALO, which was outside our mission.
It blows my mind, though, to have a standby diver without his weight belt on and having checked his tank pressure.
I love just hearing y’all’s voices give insights that I don’t even realize until you point it out
Thanks Ben. This type of encouragement keeps us wanting to do more.
Commenting before I even watch this video because I’ve been binging all of the other ones and this content is amazing. Starting my scuba certification next week and I’m excited to join the diving community!
Whaaaaaa Congrats!
Right in front of you man! Just finished my class work and starting my confined dives on July 14th! Super excited to join this community with you!
@@seanellis4878 way to get after it!
I don't get this, can someone help me out? They said it's 15ft, is that just how far they went down, but the actual floor is much deeper? Because even as a non-diver and pretty shit swimmer, I feel like I could hold my breath and go down and pull someone up. I'm confused.
Another awesome video! Dive Talk has become my favorite UA-cam channel, period.
PS: I keep hoping every time I pop by SeaVentures for something I'll run into you two. Y'all are celebrity status with me, and keep inspiring me to push farther. Keep up the amazing content!
Thank you! I'll be there on July 15th, teaching the Nitrox class...I don't teach as often as Woody so if you haven't taken the Nitrox class that would be a good time to make it happen! Gus.
Stop apologizing for stopping the video please, I love hearing your guys' insight and commentary. If I wanted to just watch the video I would look it up. Feel free to stop when you want, and keep up the great content!
Thanks!!!! We are back to stopping and commenting no matter the good or bad feedback. You are right. It’s what got us here.
I'm only 8 minutes in, but I'm dying to know when, and if, they realize they're reacting to a reenactment video from the story the survivor is recounting... Not that listening to you react to the reenactment isn't packed with amazing information!
Came here looking to see if anyone else noticed this too. The first major clue this is the case is when in the video he's holding on to the boat before disappearing, but doesn't mean that is actually what happened, but the commentary made it to be that was a fact and a 'major' part of their analysis.
They seem to do that a lot...
Me too… I am so confused haha. Does nobody realize this is a reenactment?
What are you even talking about? The guy died after spending 24 hrs under water 😐
@@thepartysjustbegun5557 They are talking about a re enactment like it is live video. Not relevant to it’s content.
I have no intention of ever going diving, even snorkeling freaks me out and makes me hyperventilate, but I’m fascinated by these videos! So interesting and informative!
Couldn't everyone jump in and freedive 15 lf to find him?
Yeah I’m not getting this at all. How does anyone drown at 15 feet with a group of divers aware and looking for them, let alone navy seals? It doesn’t make any sense. It’s 15 feet. That’s only 3 feet more than the deep end of most swimming pools.
The only thing I can think is maybe weights on the guy underwater might drown two people?
Instead of apologizing for stopping every time you stop, consider a disclaimer at the start. Essentially "this is a reaction video and we will stop the video often. You can find a link to the original in the description."
It is more distracting to hear the apologizing than the stopping
But keep up the good work! I know nothing about diving but came here from a Mr Ballen video and now I'm hooked
Paige I love this idea. Gus let’s do this so people understand up front that we DEFINITELY will stop the video often to react as that’s the entire purpose of our channel. This is a fantastic idea!
I can’t believe they skipped so many checks. I was a Jumpmaster in the Army, and I’d never skip an inspection, skimp on an inspection, or fail to keep checking the gear of my soldiers and myself. I was terrified someone would die if I screwed up, and I didn’t want to also get in trouble with the Army for not doing the right thing. They could really bust you down for this sort of thing. You could lose your rank and even your freedom if found negligent.
Yes and shows just how vital our pre dive checks are.
Hey, you were “Air Assault Qualified” as you mention in your other comments; can’t believe you left it out this time! 🙄
Hello from Ottawa Canada. I did some research into this unfortunate event and since this was an unofficial training exercise no information can be found nor would they ever release it. Sometimes it's the family's wishes to keep things private. Love your videos!
Thanks for telling us. Appreciate the comment.
@@DIVETALK My pleasure :)
I don’t think Woody knew this was a reenactment lol
He never does. 😆
Don't worry about stopping the videos to commentate, that's the whole reason I'm here. You guys have a real knack for breaking these situations down in a way us non divers can understand, even the really technical parts of diving.
Thanks Tim!
a bunch of navy divers but they cant save their buddy in 15 feet water in front of them? unbelievably incompetent
Id jump into 15 feet of water without a tank if my brother or someone was sinkong even if just to shake them awake or release weight from theor body ect cant beleive nobody was ready to immediately jump in and grab him
I swear this confuses me i swam in 20 ft pools picking up weights from the bottom
My wife (non-diver) and I enjoy your channel. My son and I are both only Master Divers and have been diving mostly Minnesota lakes since 2016 when we first received our Open Water Certifications.
I’m hard of hearing, specifically with an audio processing disorder (hear the sounds but brain doesn’t recognize the pattern of sounds as specific words). Stopping the video makes it so I can actually hear you. When two different sounds happen at once I get confused. And also, you plus the viewers would miss what happens while you’re talking. It doesn’t make sense for anyone to not pause the video if the point is to comment on it, imo. Thank you for stopping the videos to speak
@Andy Darling, I have an auditory processing disorder too. So many people think they just need to talk louder at me, and don't realize how hard it is for me to understand them when there are multiple conversations taking place around me. I agree, I really do appreciate when Woody and Gus stop a video to explain what's going on and give commentary.
This is a very insightful comment
Thank you guys for explaining it to us and my prayers and thoughts go out to all the divers and their loved ones and stay safe while you're diving in the water.
i'm not a diver and i wondered about both throwing in the weight belt and how the safety diver was 'out of #v(%!^@ air'.
My mom was an instructor in Monterey and the women used to pay me because they were so cold and exhausted when they got out they couldn’t even haul their gear up the beach and some of them couldn’t even get out of the surf crawling on their hands and knees and they would pay me to help them I was only 10 years old but I remember seeing some of these people and 5 feet of water panic and crazy things could happen and that was just in 5 feet on their way out I know that’s not relevant to this video but these are professionals but I was just thinking about depth and how anything can happen even a shallow depths! Thank you guys for your videos I’m not a scuba diver I never even got certified with my mom I was always scared of sharks in Monterey the visibility was so bad and all of the seaweed was everywhere and I watch Jaws way too much so I just want to say I know nothing about diving and I’m still hooked on all of your reaction videos please don’t say sorry for pausing the video that’s the best part if we wanted to watch the video we wouldn’t be watching a reaction video! Thanks
It's pretty obvious the video was a recreation of the events.
Frankly, I would put little faith in how accurate the events were portrayed such as rope grabs and what was thrown except that which the host mentions.
I was thinking the same thing. Most of this video is pointless.
Started with the mr.ballen reaction video and now im watching all your vids. Cool channel and learned Alot from you guys. New sub and much love from jacksonville florida.
Woohoo! Thanks Joe!
@@DIVETALK Can't wait for the next video!! Have a safe and fun weekend!
@@joedragon8245 likewise!
the only reason i can come up with where the weight belt would be thrown in the water is to mark the bottom, other then that i don't know. My ultimate question is why didn't a couple guys jump into the water right away (even without the dive gear) grab the dude and swim him back up?, seems like alot of civilian type disorientation.
Well, on the video it seems like they helped the other two divers get on the Zodiac while the other diver was sinking to the bottom, so by the time they realized he was gone maybe a minute or two had gone by, the guy is also wearing all black and not easy to spot, so they could've jumped in and start freediving hoping for the best but I don't think it was a situation where they can see the guy but decided not to jump in anyway.
@@DIVETALK Not to mention just free diving in trying to help a diver would be against most rescue diver principles. The best a free diver could hope for is quickly finding a functional inflator to bring the distressed diver back to the surface. I'm not sure I'd risk that unless I was positive the distressed diver wasn't a panic risk and I could visually see them before jumping in. If I had a safety/rescue diver suited up ready to go, I'm sending them in and either calling emergency services or aiding the rescue from the boat as someone else calls it in.
Your commentary has been incredibly valuable and insightful, so don't feel like you need to apologise for stopping.
Different gear because it was training for a Dog and Pony show for the asmiral. Contact National Defense.
Got it
You guys have great chemistry and I have learned so much from you guys! ❣️
It’ll be funny in the future when you guys have blown up seeing this vid have like 1M views in a year. Enjoy this 20 minute length aswell👌
Thank you!
You can tell that Gus is pissed that a fellow diver died due to negligence. Solid man 💯
Haven’t watched the video yet, but i’m sure it’s great😁
hey you guys are great at what you do and i just wanted to let you know that even though a lot of us aren't divers and might not ever be, the way you present information is easily translatable to other skills/hobbies or whatever. I really love what you guys are doing and i'm really looking forward to what else you guys can bring to the table. Thanks again!
Thanks for this encouragement.
Hot off the press! Just the way I like'em. Just so you fellas know, '88 wasn't that long ago... Just say'n :-)
Of course!..it was 12 years ago
@@DIVETALK I really like your math!
History repeats. The lessons never stop being relevant.
Hey Gus, Woody. I'm a Rec open water diver but not been in the water for a long time so will re take my refresher course before I dive again. I have watched lots of your videos and wanted to leave a comment In regard to this video.
With regard to dropping the weight belt the thing that pops into my mind is if the diver sunk straight to the bottom maybe dropping the weight belt was to put a marker on the bottom in reference to where he went down. Then the rescue diver could have found the weight belt and then he knows he is roughly in the right spot and can start his sweep from them outwards. Just an Idea
Keep up the videos guys great work.
I am tempted to train on TRIMIX and also a rebreather now as I am keen to dive wrecks. 👍
They literally link the original video 😂 I come here SPECIFICALLY for the commentary you could literally be talking about rocks underwater idk
That's the attitude!
I like both of you guys, and I like Woody's look of shock when he hears the steps people were skipping. You lay the foundation well, Gus.
Thank you.